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Frug
Caldari Tim Hortons Donuts
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Posted - 2006.11.20 14:05:00 -
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Update: On a whim I tried deleting basically everything in the cache folder and that fixed all my FPS problems. I suspect that deleting all my prefs including whatever the game thought my machine specs were solved a conflict with some driver changes I made.
Anyway it worked, and I think that deleting the cache should be in the main post.
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Victoria Spencer
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Posted - 2006.11.25 17:29:00 -
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You can tweak your settings anyway you can but if your CPU or GPU is too hot you will get issue with performance/framerate... I monitored my CPU temperature, on desktop it was around 60ŚC and after playing eve 5 minutes it was up to 75ŚC so i stoped it and added 2 Fans in my Computer case. My temperature on desktop shutdown to 35ŚC and now in game i'm at 45ŚC Maximum! FPS evolution : before in station around 35fps now up to 70 - before in space around 20 fps now around 45. Waitting to test in combat...
SPEC : PIV 2.4 + 768RAM + Radeaon 9600XT
Monitor your CPU/Motherboard/Graphic card and COOL the things down!
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Ryker Blade
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Posted - 2006.11.26 06:55:00 -
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I built a new gaming rig. The works. DFI Lanparty Ultra nF4 SLI-DR Expert, 2 gis of OCZ Ultra RAM, an AMD 64X2 4800+, and the real kicker, two eVga 7900GTX's running in SLI. Yea, I payed a lot to build this. Anyways when I first started playing Eve, my in-station FPS was over 200 and in flight around the 100's. About a week later I noticed a dramatic reduction in FPS. The numbers were 50% lower than at first. Now, if you have high end boards like DFI and Asus, they might have an option called CPU Thermal Throttling. Mine defaulted to 50%!!! Make sure it's disable and make sure you have good cooling on your system. I reset my Bios when I installed a new HD and it turned this on. Turning it back to "Disabled" boosted my FPS in game back to what they were. My processor is liquid cooled so it never goes over 40 deg C under very heavy load so I didnt have to worry about this being disabled. Anywyas, this worked for me so I figured I'd post it and hopefully someone else would benefit from this.
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Budmaster
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Posted - 2006.11.26 23:02:00 -
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Its nice to be able to increase fps by disabling effects and changing a few things here and there. It would be nice however someday to be able to play the game as it was intended and be able to keep the effects on. Seems kinda odd that everyone must turn off effects in game in order to play it. Hopefully this will get fixed in the next update *shrugs*
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Sylthi
Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.11.29 06:41:00 -
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I don't know about anyone else, but my FPS has fallen ANOTHER 20%-30% Post Revelations. Is anyone else having this problem? I was down 25%-30% after the first shot of Dragon, so I upgraded hardware and got about half of what I lost back. Now this and I am WORSE off than before I upgraded. Because BOTH of these radical drops in FPS has happened right after a MAJOR Eve patch, no one is going to be able to convince me its NOT the client. Before anyone asks, YES I have read this ENTIRE thread and tried everything that even had a MINOR chance of succeeding with my system. (Including, but not limited to clearing my cache.) Any advise besides terminating my account? *
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.29 08:38:00 -
[366]
Same here. Did see a fps drop after the patch today. The overall feel is a bit smoother though. Maybe it has something to do with the seamless map, all the stars in the background etc..
I also noticed a new kind of flickering at the edges of planets and rings, the same can't which were allready there on stations. Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war |
Psyco'One
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:09:00 -
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EVE is extremly good game..but completly unplayable for me..max 20 fps..sometimes 6fps on mission (i have gf6600 p4 3.2mhz 1gb ram) i tried every single idea from every forum i found..nothing workin (plus lags on my 2mb dsl) i bought 90 day tc..and that was wrong decision..so bye Eve..
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LLamasu Darklighter
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Posted - 2006.12.01 01:25:00 -
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Your loss Psyco`One.. It`s an amazing experience.. I run it on a cheapo, unupgradeable machine. Still looks beautiful to me. Perhaps your standards are too high..
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Sylthi
Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.12.01 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: LLamasu Darklighter Your loss Psyco`One.. It`s an amazing experience.. I run it on a cheapo, unupgradeable machine. Still looks beautiful to me. Perhaps your standards are too high..
.......or yours are too low??? I just expect a game to work well when you have equipment that is ABOVE what the makers of said game recommend. Never mind what is REQUIRED. My system surpasses even the most recent recommendations of the Eve devs as to what you SHOULD have to make Eve run well, and guess what? It runs like crap! ESPECIALLY the GRAPHICS. (The AUDIO is even WORSE. But, that is not this thread.) And, judging from the size of this forum and many others, we are not alone in our troubles. IN fact, it looks like people having continued unacceptable service (CTDs, LockUps, Booted from Server, Graphics Slowdowns) are more the RULE than the exception lately. CCP promised massive fixes with Revelations. CLEARLY nothing has been done with the graphics, or whatever WAS done made it worse. SO, our only choice is to keep believing their promises (lies), or terminate our accounts. Its the same choice we have always had. Its up to each individual person to make the decision. As for me, I have to admit that after OVER 3 years of listening to CCP promise me a brighter future, and then have them fail to deliver (completely) on those promises EVERY TIME is getting kinda old. I LOVE Eve, maybe as much as most of the extremely dedicated fanbois, but I am NOT a fool with my money. And, right now, Eve is making me LOOK like someone who IS a fool with his money. Who knows, maybe the Revelations Chapter 2 will address some of the MASSIVE graphical slowdowns FINALLY. We can hope...... even if it is in vain. *
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Submunch
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:59:00 -
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Yeah, my fps is way down, I think it is the seamless screen now, all those star systems out there now that need to get processed. Anyway to turn that off and not show everything? I just wanna see what's around me, no need for all the systems in the background is there? How do you turn that off? My fps is down to about 12 now, can't play really with it. I guess only trade now.
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Asoc
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.02 15:42:00 -
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I have an ancient (but not bad for Eve) ATI 9700 Pro. My FPS has gone down from between 40 and 60fps to between 20fps and 30fps. At all resolutions. The higher numbers were before Revelations (27912). It's strange because I could understand it if there were major visual improvements. There aren't so the framerate drop must be caused by something else.
Is there more reliance on the CPU? Another weird thing is that the framerate stays the same no matter what resolution I run it at, a unimpressive 20fps to 30fps. I have a much faster system with a newish NVIDIA card, I may try installing Eve on that to see if it gets a framerate comparable with other games of similar complexity. I think it's a dual core though, so maybe not.
I know I sound like someone who is constantly moaning about the game, but I have no problems at all with the actual game, just the problems the patch has introduced for me. Hopefully some of these issues will be worked out in the next patch.
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Asoc
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.02 17:54:00 -
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Interesting, same config as my last post, but if I shut the overview and any other open UI dialogues, I gain 8-10 FPS. Can someone else please try this? Does shutting open windows gain FPS in Revelations?
(Anyone reading in the future please bear in mind this may only apply to the patch I'm using)
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Tumbles
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.12.02 18:26:00 -
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Hey guys,
I was having a real bad time with my FPS...It had dropped from a normal playable rate to like 10-12 fps flying around in space and 4-5 fps in light combat. I tried everything that i found in this thread but nothing worked. I finally fixed it last night. My CPU was over heating and causing performance problems. I noticed my temp when i booted into my bios after a frustrating gaming session. It was running about 85 degrees C. I cleaned out CPU fan and heatsink with a can of air and also cleaned all my other fans....my tempature dropped down to around 50-55 degrees C and my framerate went way back up. I guess the P4 processors will limit thier performance when overheating as a sa***uard. So if anyone cant figure out thier problem its worth checking your temp and cleaning out your box.
-Tumbles
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.03 08:56:00 -
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That's a common problem, but also rather extreem considering your fps. Whenever you get such low fps while having a reasonably fast pc, you know there's more wrong than just thinking the reason is EVE. But I'm more worried about people who had nice fps (though still low compared to newer games) but went down another 15-20%. --
Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.03 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 03/12/2006 22:43:18 Unplayable in fleet battles for me since Kali. Just had a fight with maybe 0.1 FPS, after 100 hostiles jumped in. I was in a tackler and even fully zoomed out no chance to do anything. Could click and get the client to accept some commands only a few times per minute.
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Kreila
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Posted - 2006.12.05 12:55:00 -
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I've found that when I run eve in window mode it helps my fps a little bit... Right now my PC kicks the snot out of the requirements; kind of disappointing when my avg fps is 20 and usually about 5-10 in combat.
Specs: AMD 2800+ (running at 2.4ghz) 333 FSB 1 GB (2x dual channel 512s) 333 FSB Ram 120 GB 7200 RPM 8.2ms WD HDD Radeon 1600XL 512mb GDDR3 SB Live! Gamer card (its old but i like it)
... It looks to me like eve might be having some of the same UI issues that X3 has. DX9 uis kinda suck up fps.
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djk
Caldari Dominus Nihil EVE
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Posted - 2006.12.06 14:16:00 -
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havent read the whole thing so i dont know if this has been mentioned before
but i found when i changed the prioty in Windows the FPS of my computer droped. sorta
insteed of been in the constant 90s (while docked) and 30ish while undocked
they started flucationg between 70-90 (docked) and 20-30 (undocked)
after changeing the prioity back they went back to the levels they where at before
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Fain Flynn
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Posted - 2006.12.06 21:10:00 -
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I'm enjoying how a lot of people are blaming the client for most of the performance issues people are having. My computer isn't much higher than the recommended specs and I can run the game just fine with most of the lowest settings.
Soyo Dragon 2 Mobo AMD 2100 XP 1.7 1 GIG DDR 400 Single Channel GeForce 9500XT SB Live! 5.1
Nothing on my machine is OC as I have been having massive issues with OC anything. My videocard is running 300 and 700 which is stock. Same situation with CPU. RAM is single channel as my mobo is on the way out. I have employed most of the tweaks from this board and I'm getting roughly 80-90fps in station and 30-40fps in space with all graphical settings at lowest setting and I personally think the game still looks awesome. The only thing that is highest is the resolution for my video card which is 1280x1024. The one thing that gave me the biggest boost in frame rates was changing the RAM in the prefs.ini file to 768. That alone pretty much doubled my fps for me.
Those of you with these higher-end systems getting crap for framerates should really take a step back and look at what what you're doing wrong. Either you recieved some crap components or have no idea what you're doing. Sorry, but it had to be said. Flame away!
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.06 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: MailFan on 06/12/2006 23:41:02
Originally by: Fain Flynn I'm enjoying how a lot of people are blaming the client for most of the performance issues people are having. My computer isn't much higher than the recommended specs and I can run the game just fine with most of the lowest settings.
Soyo Dragon 2 Mobo AMD 2100 XP 1.7 1 GIG DDR 400 Single Channel GeForce 9500XT SB Live! 5.1
Nothing on my machine is OC as I have been having massive issues with OC anything. My videocard is running 300 and 700 which is stock. Same situation with CPU. RAM is single channel as my mobo is on the way out. I have employed most of the tweaks from this board and I'm getting roughly 80-90fps in station and 30-40fps in space with all graphical settings at lowest setting and I personally think the game still looks awesome. The only thing that is highest is the resolution for my video card which is 1280x1024. The one thing that gave me the biggest boost in frame rates was changing the RAM in the prefs.ini file to 768. That alone pretty much doubled my fps for me.
Those of you with these higher-end systems getting crap for framerates should really take a step back and look at what what you're doing wrong. Either you recieved some crap components or have no idea what you're doing. Sorry, but it had to be said. Flame away!
That's just narrowminded thinking all of us don't know anything about computers. Sure you can say what you want. But after running RMR on a P4 2.6 @ 2.9ghz 1024mb DDR333 and an Ati 9500Pro O/Ced with quite decent fps 60+ in station, 55-60 in flight and 45 hanging outside a station, running with 1280x768x32 and AA on 4x. I can say that I had more fps than most people with pcs twice as fast.
Now for some reason Kali just has a problem since I lost 15fps, which is alot imo.
I reinstalled EVE, changed drivers, changed settings to no avail except for one thing. When quiting EVE in space, then relogging, I do get my 60fps back, but just for a few seconds untill the ship comes out of warp. Then Im stuck with 35 again.
Imo, you're the one doing something wrong since it seems you have a videocard in your pc which doesn't even excist. --
Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war
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Asoc
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.07 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: MailFan ...
Imo, you're the one doing something wrong since it seems you have a videocard in your pc which doesn't even excist.
While I think you're probably right and the video card name is a typo there are some weird NVIDIA rebrands out there. My dad bought a computer in Germany that had (IIRC) an Nvidia 6700, which turned out to be a slightly overclocked 6600 but with a different name. It took a few weeks for the ordinary Nvidia drivers to work with it while they updated .inf files. I think the typo you refer to is probably an ATI 9500 XT.
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Fain Flynn
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Posted - 2006.12.07 08:49:00 -
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Yes, I meant 5900. Fingers were typing too fast. I'm just saying that people whine that they're not getting the fps they desire when they blow $5000 on a rig and they say they know what they're doing. Doesn't make sense to me. Same situation as my old job doing internet tech support. People would call in complaining that they're internet speeds were not as fast as they were paying for. Idiots had Limewire or some other bandwidth hogging proggy running in the background all the time. I'm thinking people have too much running to get the performance they want in Eve.
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Asoc
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.07 14:23:00 -
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I am suffering a post Revelations FPS drop though, as I suspect many other are. I'm using an ATI 9700 pro, which was fast in its time, and fast for Eve prior to the revelations patch. Now I'm lucky if I break the 26 fps mark. I get some horrific pauses in the middle of battles too. I'm hoping they'll fix the performance in the next patch, or they'll need to update the recommended specifications, and break the bad news to those of us with older computers. People without a clue probably don't bother to measure things like the FPS and use subjective descriptions.
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ZinderX500
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:55:00 -
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Having as many windows in game ( chat , etc ) hidden helps a lot.... You can also understand it if you try CONTROL+TAB . If you want a nice fps boost try what i do :
Set your NEOCOM to auto hide. ( its hidden most of the time = fps boost ) [ right click the left icon menu bar ( neocom ) and click AUTO HIDE ON )
i also minimize the chat windows when i dont use them... nice fps boost too by that one.
i had at least 15 fps boost with all these.
Outside the station im getting right now 50-60 fps with few ships around and Firefox , windows media player , msn running
next to a stargate with few ships near im getting 61+ with the same applications running.
also forgot to tell that i have multisample quality to 3.
So give them a try.
ps: thanks every one that posted here as it helped me a lot to improve the fps more than it was in the start .
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Solid Reaver
Caldari Gamer Lounge Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.09 03:52:00 -
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At the moment I get crap FPS for the spec of my machine. I can understang that the game might not be coded specifically for my hardware but honstly I have no performance issues with any other game and they are getting smother and smoother with each upgrade I do, even games released before Eve.
I usually run 2 clients most of the time as I have a dual display setup. Only one client running: Station: 170 FPS Outside: 50-60 FPS Mission: 20-30FPS
With 2 clients it would be half for both.
Current System: QX6700 Quad-Core 2.66Ghz CellShock DDR2 1066Mhz Leadtech 8800GTS + other highend parts (no overclocking as yet)
I noticed no improvement when I installed my new CPU (complete fresh install) from my Athlon 64 3700+ and not much when I went from a 7800GTX to my 8800GTS. Heres hoping the code will be optimised before the new DX9/10 models are released or I fear my hardware will die trying to run Eve. ---------------------- To Life Immortal!! |
ZinderX500
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.09 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Solid Reaver At the moment I get crap FPS for the spec of my machine. I can understang that the game might not be coded specifically for my hardware but honstly I have no performance issues with any other game and they are getting smother and smoother with each upgrade I do, even games released before Eve.
I usually run 2 clients most of the time as I have a dual display setup. Only one client running: Station: 170 FPS Outside: 50-60 FPS Mission: 20-30FPS
With 2 clients it would be half for both.
Current System: QX6700 Quad-Core 2.66Ghz CellShock DDR2 1066Mhz Leadtech 8800GTS + other highend parts (no overclocking as yet)
I noticed no improvement when I installed my new CPU (complete fresh install) from my Athlon 64 3700+ and not much when I went from a 7800GTX to my 8800GTS. Heres hoping the code will be optimised before the new DX9/10 models are released or I fear my hardware will die trying to run Eve.
oh my god , ur getting 50-60 fps with quad core and 8800 ???
it suck really bad . i hope they fix it somehow
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Commander Stringer
Caldari InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.09 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Stringer on 09/12/2006 11:32:07 Edited by: Commander Stringer on 09/12/2006 11:31:02 Let me get this straight..
Quad Core, 8800GTS (Should have been a GTX m8 sorry but the GTS sucks ass compared) And the most FPS you can pull is 60?
Ok my m8's machine Core2Duo 2.6 XFX 8800GTX 2Gb Corsair nForce 680i
FPS?
250 In station 105 in Warp 70-90 in combat in a belt.
My Rig AMD 3800+ 2.4 1 Gb Twinmos CL2.5 8800GTX nForce4 chipset mobo
FPS?
90 in station 60 in warp 40-50 in combat in a belt.
Tell ya summat wong with that Quad.
Seriously tho, i reckon half the fps probs peeps are gettin is purely down to setup. For example my other 3 Eve machines.
Machine 1 AMD2200+ 1Gb Ram GF5600XT FPS? 20-30 In a station That sux.
Machine 2 AMD64 3200+ @2.11Ghz 1Gb Crucial CL3 DDR Dual Channel Mode GF6600 LE FPS? 50 in station. Stable 30-40 in space 20-30 in combat (missions)
Machine 3 Intel P4 1.8 Third Gen 1Gb DDR PC2100 GF4Ti 4800 FPS? 40-45 in station. Stable 30-40 in space 20-30 in combat (missions)
Question: Now why does the 2200+ suck so bad? Answer: Heat. Fecker gets really hot prolly has something to do with the 3 18Gb 10K RPM U160 SCSI disks in the box.
My point of this post?
Always check you setup. You may have the dogs bollox in kit but if you set it up wrong a 4th gen nVidia card will kick your butt. I know whats the problem with my main rig (the 8800GTX) its CPU, the chip just isn't man enuff to feed the card what it wants. But eve sure looks beautiful at 1280x1024 16x AA 16xAF Supersampling and all the fancy bits turned on.
O and btw those who can do this in their driver FORCE VERTICAL SYNC OFF..eve will try and sync with the monitor refresh rate.
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'Blow your own trumpet 'cuz no other fecker is going to do it for you'
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Commander Stringer
Caldari InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.09 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Stringer on 09/12/2006 11:28:20 ack double post.
Just thought of something else, there was mention on the forums before about multi-core systems, Eve is not fully multi-core aware afaik, try setting that exefile.exe to a single core rather than letting it try to work it out for itself.
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'Blow your own trumpet 'cuz no other fecker is going to do it for you'
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Maltitol
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Posted - 2006.12.09 17:28:00 -
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i'm not one to complain, but what you guys get compared to me, makes my machine look like an old granny...
Athlon xp 2500+ asus a7n8x-x gforce 5900xt 1gb ram, clock matched to cpu (166) non-dual
i get 45 fps in station, 25 - 35 inwarp & idling outside station....
HOWEVER, i did notice when warping into mission pockets (massive attack) for example, i get up to a 5 second delay before everything pops up...
one thing i have noticed.. ANY NORTON anything loaded slows all system performance, with it uninstalled i gained 35 fps everywhere, im up to 70 in station, 50 outside, and only a minor 1 second lag for missions...
mind you i keep very good care of my system (never above 48 degrees for cpu) defrag c: drive and game drive every night, and i dont weigh down my machine on windows load.
that's all i got. hope it helps
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kaike
Minmatar Darklite inc
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Posted - 2006.12.10 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: kaike on 10/12/2006 18:44:04 Fps: In station it's like a mad man going up/down higest 55 lowest 22
Bt stupid quastion perhaps the second line ? i get a lot of red numbers there VM size /0/TO:199,288 /-72 k (green) -3.072 k (red)
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ZinderX500
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.10 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: ZinderX500 on 10/12/2006 20:36:35
Originally by: kaike Edited by: kaike on 10/12/2006 18:44:04 Fps: In station it's like a mad man going up/down
lool that made my laugh in real life lol ^_^
btw , guys , i want to ask something.
someone said something about hyperthreading cpus to set the buffersize no more than 128.... i have 2gb ram so is there any way to set it 1024 and benefit from it at all ?
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