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Loctar	Posted - 2004.09.19 18:37:00 - [121] Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how ppl get off attacking one person on these forums. plz read what person above u said he pretty much hit the nail on what fragm says on the foums Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how, while I am sitting outside the D7 station cloaked..Celes logs off. Most of them I have 70+ of the corp in my addressbook. Once we start attacking the station they all log back on at the same time we never log of at stations sorry for u i also have 70+ in my buddy list dont know what that has to do with anything Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes says they do not work with anyone, but yet several of us watched them working with Wild Weasels at the D7 station. we work mostly alone, dont get how that is untrue just cus we have 2 ppl hanging about us WANTING to help us Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes claims that they will fight us in D7 but everytime we get a fleet together the bulk of Celes logs off at safespots. this is probly due to something called timezones celes is bulk of members are in the eu timezone while i know gns is mostly in us timezone sorry that we have rl and need to attend to them... Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes logs on before downtime, takes the station so they benefit from full shields on the station when the server reboots. (Again I have seen them do this, its amazing the amount of activity my addressbook has from Celes shortly beofre downtime). yes this is cus when its like 10 am ppl get up and starts comming online very simple... Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes can log in and out at the same time, but they dont use that sort of tactic in game. And I am not talking about how the corp "logs" on at the same time everyday. I am talking about how 5 or 6 of them log on and off together in the D7 system...they do this on a regular basis. eh no? maybe 2 or 3 are bored and its like ops dinner time? Originally by: Mujun Kross I have dealt with Fragm for a while now and he is a really good guy. Friendly and helpful to anyone that asks. He does not deserve the type of attacks that ppl on these forums like to subject him too. read above again Originally by: Mujun Kross Of course everyone will say that "Celes just does not do that..." pfft you are not up here in D7 watching them. Ppl will say that Celes is the good guys...pfft...again you are not up here in D7 watching them. Celes is worse than anyone in this game...I have fought several "declared" pirate corps in Fountain and in P3/D7 area. And the only difference between them and Celes is they dont hide behind the "good guy" label. I expect to be flamed on this but thats ok by me. If you look most of the *** talk is coming from Celes...they claim they dont do this or they dont do that...the rest of the * talk comes from the people that watch celes doing exactly what we are describing. oh just cus ur corrently being attacked by us u feel a uncandy desire to post ** about the one that attackes u doesnt make it right the most reason ppl say it isent so is well probly cus it isent... i know atleast curse took there losses like mean not crying loggintrap everytime we got a battle... There is no such thing as innocence, only various degrees of guilt
Loctar	Posted - 2004.09.19 18:37:00 - [122] Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how ppl get off attacking one person on these forums. plz read what person above u said he pretty much hit the nail on what fragm says on the foums Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how, while I am sitting outside the D7 station cloaked..Celes logs off. Most of them I have 70+ of the corp in my addressbook. Once we start attacking the station they all log back on at the same time we never log of at stations sorry for u i also have 70+ in my buddy list dont know what that has to do with anything Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes says they do not work with anyone, but yet several of us watched them working with Wild Weasels at the D7 station. we work mostly alone, dont get how that is untrue just cus we have 2 ppl hanging about us WANTING to help us Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes claims that they will fight us in D7 but everytime we get a fleet together the bulk of Celes logs off at safespots. this is probly due to something called timezones celes is bulk of members are in the eu timezone while i know gns is mostly in us timezone sorry that we have rl and need to attend to them... Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes logs on before downtime, takes the station so they benefit from full shields on the station when the server reboots. (Again I have seen them do this, its amazing the amount of activity my addressbook has from Celes shortly beofre downtime). yes this is cus when its like 10 am ppl get up and starts comming online very simple... Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how Celes can log in and out at the same time, but they dont use that sort of tactic in game. And I am not talking about how the corp "logs" on at the same time everyday. I am talking about how 5 or 6 of them log on and off together in the D7 system...they do this on a regular basis. eh no? maybe 2 or 3 are bored and its like ops dinner time? Originally by: Mujun Kross I have dealt with Fragm for a while now and he is a really good guy. Friendly and helpful to anyone that asks. He does not deserve the type of attacks that ppl on these forums like to subject him too. read above again Originally by: Mujun Kross Of course everyone will say that "Celes just does not do that..." pfft you are not up here in D7 watching them. Ppl will say that Celes is the good guys...pfft...again you are not up here in D7 watching them. Celes is worse than anyone in this game...I have fought several "declared" pirate corps in Fountain and in P3/D7 area. And the only difference between them and Celes is they dont hide behind the "good guy" label. I expect to be flamed on this but thats ok by me. If you look most of the *** talk is coming from Celes...they claim they dont do this or they dont do that...the rest of the * talk comes from the people that watch celes doing exactly what we are describing. oh just cus ur corrently being attacked by us u feel a uncandy desire to post ** about the one that attackes u doesnt make it right the most reason ppl say it isent so is well probly cus it isent... i know atleast curse took there losses like mean not crying loggintrap everytime we got a battle... There is no such thing as innocence, only various degrees of guilt
Daakkon	Posted - 2004.09.19 19:35:00 - [123] loctar thats the TFA>GN mentality they get owned they cry SPLOIT! www.dark-cartel.com
Daakkon	Posted - 2004.09.19 19:35:00 - [124] loctar thats the TFA>GN mentality they get owned they cry SPLOIT! www.dark-cartel.com
Heinky	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:20:00 - [125] Originally by: Shylan What I think is lame is that Fragm and Heinky have both left TFA cause they cant stand the heat that is upon them. Good to know u have the facts straight, i quit tfa and made my own corp to kill you and your friends in tps alliance so me going qith my small 3player corp to tps space and staying there to fight is running ? 3 bs.s 4 crusiers and 1 frig have gone down so far on your side and we have had no losses. im just pointing out the kills because u say i cant take the heat, not smacking
Heinky	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:20:00 - [126] Originally by: Shylan What I think is lame is that Fragm and Heinky have both left TFA cause they cant stand the heat that is upon them. Good to know u have the facts straight, i quit tfa and made my own corp to kill you and your friends in tps alliance so me going qith my small 3player corp to tps space and staying there to fight is running ? 3 bs.s 4 crusiers and 1 frig have gone down so far on your side and we have had no losses. im just pointing out the kills because u say i cant take the heat, not smacking
Heinky	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:20:00 - [127] Edited by: Heinky on 19/09/2004 20:22:33 double post my fault
Heinky	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:20:00 - [128] Edited by: Heinky on 19/09/2004 20:22:33 double post my fault
Mitchman	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:28:00 - [129] Originally by: Daakkon just declare war on his new corp and if he leaves it then you can petition about it Won't help. Apparently a petition we did on some war enemy that moved all members to a new corp caused quite a discussion at CCP, and the conclusion was that it is not an exploit.
Mitchman	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:28:00 - [130] Originally by: Daakkon just declare war on his new corp and if he leaves it then you can petition about it Won't help. Apparently a petition we did on some war enemy that moved all members to a new corp caused quite a discussion at CCP, and the conclusion was that it is not an exploit.
Mujun Kross	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:56:00 - [131] So when I said that haveing 70+ of the Celes corp in my addressbook did not get the point across that i was try to make. When local in D7 indicates that Celes has left the area my address book indicates that they have logged out...not went somewhere else. When local fills up with celes my addressbook indicates that they have logged on. Happens all the time. They come in and make a big show of force, then most of them log out at the same time. When someone shows up in local and starts hitting the station you get a massive logon from celes...when D7 is clear they log out again...does this make more sense to those that do not understand. Celes does use the log in/out tactic on a regular basis. And another thing I mine, I scout and I hunt NPC's. I will be the first to tell you i suck at PvP. So yeah if you see me in system you will only see my name in local, cloaking mods are great for scouting. . . . "Come now, my child, if we were planning to harm you, do you think we'd be lurking here, beside the path, in the very darkest part of the forest?" -Kenneth Patchen "But Even So"
Mujun Kross	Posted - 2004.09.19 20:56:00 - [132] So when I said that haveing 70+ of the Celes corp in my addressbook did not get the point across that i was try to make. When local in D7 indicates that Celes has left the area my address book indicates that they have logged out...not went somewhere else. When local fills up with celes my addressbook indicates that they have logged on. Happens all the time. They come in and make a big show of force, then most of them log out at the same time. When someone shows up in local and starts hitting the station you get a massive logon from celes...when D7 is clear they log out again...does this make more sense to those that do not understand. Celes does use the log in/out tactic on a regular basis. And another thing I mine, I scout and I hunt NPC's. I will be the first to tell you i suck at PvP. So yeah if you see me in system you will only see my name in local, cloaking mods are great for scouting. . . . "Come now, my child, if we were planning to harm you, do you think we'd be lurking here, beside the path, in the very darkest part of the forest?" -Kenneth Patchen "But Even So"
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:26:00 - [133] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 19/09/2004 21:31:05 Originally by: Mujun Kross So when I said that haveing 70+ of the Celes corp in my addressbook did not get the point across that i was try to make. When local in D7 indicates that Celes has left the area my address book indicates that they have logged out...not went somewhere else. When local fills up with celes my addressbook indicates that they have logged on. Happens all the time. They come in and make a big show of force, then most of them log out at the same time. When someone shows up in local and starts hitting the station you get a massive logon from celes...when D7 is clear they log out again...does this make more sense to those that do not understand. Celes does use the log in/out tactic on a regular basis. We have quite simply decided to stay in d7 for a while. Thus we log on and off there instead of going somewhere else, capisce? This is not a "log in/out tactic" as the term is normally understood. We don't do log-on traps. I'd quit any corp that expected me to sit listening to TS while waiting for a log-on command, it's both lame and a waste of time. Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:26:00 - [134] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 19/09/2004 21:31:05 Originally by: Mujun Kross So when I said that haveing 70+ of the Celes corp in my addressbook did not get the point across that i was try to make. When local in D7 indicates that Celes has left the area my address book indicates that they have logged out...not went somewhere else. When local fills up with celes my addressbook indicates that they have logged on. Happens all the time. They come in and make a big show of force, then most of them log out at the same time. When someone shows up in local and starts hitting the station you get a massive logon from celes...when D7 is clear they log out again...does this make more sense to those that do not understand. Celes does use the log in/out tactic on a regular basis. We have quite simply decided to stay in d7 for a while. Thus we log on and off there instead of going somewhere else, capisce? This is not a "log in/out tactic" as the term is normally understood. We don't do log-on traps. I'd quit any corp that expected me to sit listening to TS while waiting for a log-on command, it's both lame and a waste of time. Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
The7thDwarf	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:39:00 - [135] Originally by: Mujun Kross i suck at PvP. so then you know nothing of what tactics we do use and discredited your entire arguement. best to keep your mouth closed until you know something about of what you speak
The7thDwarf	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:39:00 - [136] Originally by: Mujun Kross i suck at PvP. so then you know nothing of what tactics we do use and discredited your entire arguement. best to keep your mouth closed until you know something about of what you speak
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:41:00 - [137] If someone suspects a log on trap then petition it. Dont be whining on the forums about since it doesnt help and also its not allowed. Learn you rules people, geez. *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:41:00 - [138] If someone suspects a log on trap then petition it. Dont be whining on the forums about since it doesnt help and also its not allowed. Learn you rules people, geez. *Spawn of the Devil*
Rath Amon	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:42:00 - [139] Originally by: Mujun Kross if you see me in system you will only see my name in local, cloaking mods are great for scouting. a good covert ops pilot stays cloaked at all times and doesnt advertise the fact on a forum how stoopid is that. we know you fly a cheetah, we saw you uncloaked next to your fleet going "ooo look at me im in a cheetah" thanks btw, if we log off and on in mass on a regular basis, then fraps it and post it you smacktard or stfu
Rath Amon	Posted - 2004.09.19 21:42:00 - [140] Originally by: Mujun Kross if you see me in system you will only see my name in local, cloaking mods are great for scouting. a good covert ops pilot stays cloaked at all times and doesnt advertise the fact on a forum how stoopid is that. we know you fly a cheetah, we saw you uncloaked next to your fleet going "ooo look at me im in a cheetah" thanks btw, if we log off and on in mass on a regular basis, then fraps it and post it you smacktard or stfu
Talon SilverHawk	Posted - 2004.09.19 22:23:00 - [141] Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how ppl get off attacking one person on these forums. I love how Fragm posts how Celes used a tactic that others have whined about before to gank his ship while he was afk. I love how, while I am sitting outside the D7 station cloaked..Celes logs off. Most of them I have 70+ of the corp in my addressbook. Once we start attacking the station they all log back on at the same time (I guess speed dial on the phone would work here). I love how Celes says they do not work with anyone, but yet several of us watched them working with Wild Weasels at the D7 station. I love how Celes claims that they will fight us in D7 but everytime we get a fleet together the bulk of Celes logs off at safespots. I love how Celes logs on before downtime, takes the station so they benefit from full shields on the station when the server reboots. (Again I have seen them do this, its amazing the amount of activity my addressbook has from Celes shortly beofre downtime). I love how Celes can log in and out at the same time, but they dont use that sort of tactic in game. And I am not talking about how the corp "logs" on at the same time everyday. I am talking about how 5 or 6 of them log on and off together in the D7 system...they do this on a regular basis. Of course ppl are going to ask for proof. What proof would work for any of you? FRAPS? You will say that the video i present for evidence could have been taken at any time. Screenshots? Again the same as the video. I have dealt with Fragm for a while now and he is a really good guy. Friendly and helpful to anyone that asks. He does not deserve the type of attacks that ppl on these forums like to subject him too. Of course everyone will say that "Celes just does not do that..." pfft you are not up here in D7 watching them. Ppl will say that Celes is the good guys...pfft...again you are not up here in D7 watching them. Celes is worse than anyone in this game...I have fought several "declared" pirate corps in Fountain and in P3/D7 area. And the only difference between them and Celes is they dont hide behind the "good guy" label. I expect to be flamed on this but thats ok by me. If you look most of the *** talk is coming from Celes...they claim they dont do this or they dont do that...the rest of the *** talk comes from the people that watch celes doing exactly what we are describing. Lol I love the way you are spouting so much bull, You know its crap, we know its crap and most peeps reading it know its crap... As for logging into the D7 system thats where we are and most peeps are euro time zone so you will see a few of us log on around the same time after work Tal What goes around comes around...
Talon SilverHawk	Posted - 2004.09.19 22:23:00 - [142] Originally by: Mujun Kross I love how ppl get off attacking one person on these forums. I love how Fragm posts how Celes used a tactic that others have whined about before to gank his ship while he was afk. I love how, while I am sitting outside the D7 station cloaked..Celes logs off. Most of them I have 70+ of the corp in my addressbook. Once we start attacking the station they all log back on at the same time (I guess speed dial on the phone would work here). I love how Celes says they do not work with anyone, but yet several of us watched them working with Wild Weasels at the D7 station. I love how Celes claims that they will fight us in D7 but everytime we get a fleet together the bulk of Celes logs off at safespots. I love how Celes logs on before downtime, takes the station so they benefit from full shields on the station when the server reboots. (Again I have seen them do this, its amazing the amount of activity my addressbook has from Celes shortly beofre downtime). I love how Celes can log in and out at the same time, but they dont use that sort of tactic in game. And I am not talking about how the corp "logs" on at the same time everyday. I am talking about how 5 or 6 of them log on and off together in the D7 system...they do this on a regular basis. Of course ppl are going to ask for proof. What proof would work for any of you? FRAPS? You will say that the video i present for evidence could have been taken at any time. Screenshots? Again the same as the video. I have dealt with Fragm for a while now and he is a really good guy. Friendly and helpful to anyone that asks. He does not deserve the type of attacks that ppl on these forums like to subject him too. Of course everyone will say that "Celes just does not do that..." pfft you are not up here in D7 watching them. Ppl will say that Celes is the good guys...pfft...again you are not up here in D7 watching them. Celes is worse than anyone in this game...I have fought several "declared" pirate corps in Fountain and in P3/D7 area. And the only difference between them and Celes is they dont hide behind the "good guy" label. I expect to be flamed on this but thats ok by me. If you look most of the *** talk is coming from Celes...they claim they dont do this or they dont do that...the rest of the *** talk comes from the people that watch celes doing exactly what we are describing. Lol I love the way you are spouting so much bull, You know its crap, we know its crap and most peeps reading it know its crap... As for logging into the D7 system thats where we are and most peeps are euro time zone so you will see a few of us log on around the same time after work Tal What goes around comes around...
Nox	Posted - 2004.09.19 23:33:00 - [143] DAMN thats the longest ganking vid ive ever see fragm owns FU LoL do u even know what a fleet battel or 1 on 1 is ?
Nox	Posted - 2004.09.19 23:33:00 - [144] DAMN thats the longest ganking vid ive ever see fragm owns FU LoL do u even know what a fleet battel or 1 on 1 is ?
Dezzyb0y	Posted - 2004.09.20 03:51:00 - [145] OMG FRAGM GOT KILLED HARD DI HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR, LEMME LAUGH SOME MORE HAR HAR HAR HAR AHR HAR HAR HAR HAR ( ***** TYPO ) HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR. Yay, make sure u get the S pod next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somebody ban/gag the ** from teh forums... kthnx ----------------------- K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
Dezzyb0y	Posted - 2004.09.20 03:51:00 - [146] OMG FRAGM GOT KILLED HARD DI HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR, LEMME LAUGH SOME MORE HAR HAR HAR HAR AHR HAR HAR HAR HAR ( ***** TYPO ) HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR. Yay, make sure u get the S pod next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somebody ban/gag the ** from teh forums... kthnx ----------------------- K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
Van Halen	Posted - 2004.09.20 04:03:00 - [147] Edited by: Van Halen on 20/09/2004 04:06:31 Quote: null Edited by: Van Halen on 20/09/2004 04:05:10 i did pod him and it was before this incident that this whole useless thread is about. 2004.09.09 23:05:00 Victim: Fragm Corporation: The Fenix Alliance Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Obe System Security Level: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Van Halen (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.3 Corporation: Celestial Apocalypse Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Neutron Blaster I 2004.09.09 23:05:00 For your termination of Fragm we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 10,000 ISK Quote: well today celeat killed my bs their 1st kill on me since they dec war on tfa dunno what he means by that, guess i got the wrong fragm 2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage.
Van Halen	Posted - 2004.09.20 04:03:00 - [148] Edited by: Van Halen on 20/09/2004 04:06:31 Quote: null Edited by: Van Halen on 20/09/2004 04:05:10 i did pod him and it was before this incident that this whole useless thread is about. 2004.09.09 23:05:00 Victim: Fragm Corporation: The Fenix Alliance Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Obe System Security Level: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Van Halen (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.3 Corporation: Celestial Apocalypse Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Heavy Neutron Blaster I 2004.09.09 23:05:00 For your termination of Fragm we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 10,000 ISK Quote: well today celeat killed my bs their 1st kill on me since they dec war on tfa dunno what he means by that, guess i got the wrong fragm 2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage.
Malken	Posted - 2004.09.20 05:16:00 - [149] Originally by: Dezzyb0y OMG FRAGM GOT KILLED HARD DI HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR, LEMME LAUGH SOME MORE HAR HAR HAR HAR AHR HAR HAR HAR HAR ( ***** TYPO ) HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR. Yay, make sure u get the S pod next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somebody ban/gag the from teh forums... kthnx i am 100% sure that frgm got podded when he got blown up there at his safespot. 100% sure. Originally by:** Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567
Malken	Posted - 2004.09.20 05:16:00 - [150] Originally by: Dezzyb0y OMG FRAGM GOT KILLED HARD DI HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR, LEMME LAUGH SOME MORE HAR HAR HAR HAR AHR HAR HAR HAR HAR ( ***** TYPO ) HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR. Yay, make sure u get the S pod next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somebody ban/gag the from teh forums... kthnx i am 100% sure that frgm got podded when he got blown up there at his safespot. 100% sure. Originally by:** Graelyn "We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!" Quote: [18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567

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