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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Surfers Anonymous
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Posted - 2009.06.21 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 21/06/2009 02:32:02
Quote: Also why not introduce a ship specific module that blocks doomsdays, make it so you can only fit it on say command ships since HICs get primary enough as it is.
On an aside with that, how about a deployable bubble that absorbs area-effect devices, up to a certain amount of damage? Say, 100,000 HP? Like a mobile warp disruption bubble, but will suck up at least a few DDs and easily stop smartbombs, ECM bursts etc to provide a smaller scale tactical use? 5km, 10km and 20km range variants (small, med, large)
Another aside on something else you said though, I don't think removing cloaks is the answer because it'll proliferate another unwanted tactic: Loggofski. ---
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I went to the forums for special powers and all I got was a dancing padlock and a banhammer.
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Salastil
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.21 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Salastil on 21/06/2009 02:43:17 Stop dancing the issue, any ship or anchorable solution you come up with will be overcome instantly. People in this game are merciless in their abuse of mechanics, anything short of removing the doomsday and changing both supercapitals to be useful will just be overcome within days of it being implemented. The day first stations hit Sov4 CCP should have realized how fast mudflation would occur.
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skilzrulz
Gallente 0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.21 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba How about unnerf the low-sec DD so I can get rid of them pesky NPCs roaming the belts while I mine?!!
This guy is a genius
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Trent Nichols
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.21 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Smooth Kitty
Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 20/06/2009 22:59:50 titans arnt broken
the amount of isk in game is broken ,
if the amount of isk was the same when the first few titans were made there wouldn't be many titans.
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This but for different reasons.
It's rather silly that a few alliances can have a separate dread fleet in every corner of eve, massive and safe (Sov 4) supercap production, capital giveaways to member, and still can't spend all the isk they generate from their moons. Seems the only way to bring down an established alliance now days is to infiltrate them or turn one of their trusted members.
I think we are getting to the root of the problem right here. Moon mining is broken - there is no way CCP isn't aware of this. If they care enough to do something about it is anyone's guess.
CCP has also been presented, by forum posters, with good ideas about how to curb the existing titans. Limiting the number of DDs per grid and having the backwash of a DD down a cyno jammer are two of my favorites.
Logistics deployables mean less grind and more pewpew! |
Myrkala
Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2009.06.21 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: Myrkala on 21/06/2009 03:31:02 Having many titans close to each other, they should be draw to each other by forces of gravity (attraction) and crush each other into the biggest veldspar belt 0.0 has ever seen.
I mean, how heavy is a Titan actually?
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Victoria Akmea
Gallente Taishite Kami
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Posted - 2009.06.21 03:40:00 -
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My suggestion? Switch DD workings a bit. Play it off as a doomsday is the overloading and self destruct of a titan's reactor core or something. On doomsday, the blast does massive damage, but also destroys the titan with it.
((Disclaimer: No, I'm not one for 0.0 stuff. Feel free to ignore me.))
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Major Stallion
Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.21 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pedro Sangre I don't think you get it. That display was fair warning to EVE & CCP.
If titans / DDs aren't fixed, we (and others too most likely) will do it in combat...repeatedly...until even your bad posting is drowned out by the screams of broken and podded pubbies.
wow...i agree with a goon. OP shut it. DD's need fixing. |
Template Girl
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Posted - 2009.06.21 06:48:00 -
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I think a simple solution is to give titans an attribute (such as due to their super huge signature size) that they absorb more DD damage (plus take damage on their own DD if this isnt already the case). This way if you light off say 5 at a time you blow up all 5 titans. But if you light off 2 at a time the titans may survive but be very low on health (easy to finish off).
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.21 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Template Girl I think a simple solution is to give titans an attribute (such as due to their super huge signature size) that they absorb more DD damage (plus take damage on their own DD if this isnt already the case). This way if you light off say 5 at a time you blow up all 5 titans. But if you light off 2 at a time the titans may survive but be very low on health (easy to finish off).
No that is a terrible idea.
Having a weapon which destroys every ship below a certain size with one push on the button without anything you can do about it is just a bad idea for a game. |
Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2009.06.21 11:34:00 -
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Balancing a game design on the assumption of rarity has never worked for any mmo. |
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.21 11:50:00 -
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hi guy brought 70 billion worth of ship hey it a hauler
¼_¼ so rediculus
dont nerf titans
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2009.06.21 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Pedro Sangre If titans / DDs aren't fixed, we (and others too most likely) will do it in combat...repeatedly...until even your bad posting is drowned out by the screams of broken and podded pubbies.
There's a big difference between doing something on the test server and actually having the balls and ability to make it happen under real conditions.
If someone wants to put the 30ish-something Titans on the line it would take to DD a cap fleet, let them. Odds are they'll be crying sweet tears after they lose a lot more than they manage to kill. If they manage to kill anything besides support that is... |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.21 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis
Originally by: Pedro Sangre If titans / DDs aren't fixed, we (and others too most likely) will do it in combat...repeatedly...until even your bad posting is drowned out by the screams of broken and podded pubbies.
There's a big difference between doing something on the test server and actually having the balls and ability to make it happen under real conditions.
If someone wants to put the 30ish-something Titans on the line it would take to DD a cap fleet, let them. Odds are they'll be crying sweet tears after they lose a lot more than they manage to kill. If they manage to kill anything besides support that is...
You realise they did it on TQ? And i am pretty sure if kennie would have undocked some capitals from that station they would have mass doomsdayed them.
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wtbrandomnamegenerator
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis
There's a big difference between doing something on the test server and actually having the balls and ability to make it happen under real conditions.
If someone wants to put the 30ish-something Titans on the line it would take to DD a cap fleet, let them. Odds are they'll be crying sweet tears after they lose a lot more than they manage to kill. If they manage to kill anything besides support that is...
Your an idiot, this happened Live, in 49-
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.06.24 03:39:00 -
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Titans suck anyway, giant ball of 'lol I told you, you should have came in something smaller', evaded 7 DD, in a command / BS, maybe you guys donĘt know how to align or fail to add titan pilots to your address book.
Just make capital ships immune to DD, and let titans work the same, I dunno just say capital parts have reflective, super thermal anti aurora second shields that are designed to reduce DD damage by 95%, only 2 titans will really be needed then and the idiots who die from them obviously werenĘt listening. Most of the whiners only saw the 16 on 1 carrier kill and got excited, titans donĘt INSTANTLY kill, you have enough time to get out if you are support and if you are a BS well unless you are bubbled (lol!) you should have been aligned.
Also PL could have easily fielded more and can right now as well as NC and the other 0.0 alliances, the reason they haven't been in fleets on 27 titans all the time is purely because it wouldnĘt end nice for them, alliance donĘt fly around in 20+ titans and they only would if they were 100% sure they were protected, the whole system at the time was practically red, most of the time they just chill with 3 ū 4 titans in bubbles :D:D
What next, "oh no titan died by 500 stealth bombers, nerf plz",.. imo motherships need a new buff and they need to be on the field more, as for titans,.. well yeah until you actually have been hit by 16 titans yourself and are NOT in PL, stfu and stop with the nerf drama. |
Ravenal
The Fated E.Y
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Posted - 2009.06.24 03:55:00 -
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The problem has to do with scaling. When adding a feature to the game its scaling has to be considered. The DD feature is fine on its own, but scale it up by multiplying with the fleet sizes we see in EvE or nr of pilots it takes to crash a system it just gets silly.
DD works one at a time, breaks horribly when you start getting more. Any scaling fix needs to maintain their "solo" effectiveness. |
BiggestT
Caldari Oz Space Diggers
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Posted - 2009.06.24 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres Just make it impossible to cloak supercapitals and their numbers will go down a bit.
Wow..
The most simple yet perfect solution! One may not even need a dd change..Though i'd still prefer that as well.. EVE history
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Comodore John
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Posted - 2009.06.24 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Crackzilla Edited by: Crackzilla on 19/06/2009 19:48:37 4) Give Chribba a titan in high sec
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best idea ever imo, chribba already has a revelation in amarr, why not give him his avatar there also?
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.24 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: BiggestT
Originally by: Hyveres Just make it impossible to cloak supercapitals and their numbers will go down a bit.
Wow..
The most simple yet perfect solution! One may not even need a dd change..Though i'd still prefer that as well..
No it is also a terrible solution. Then there still is the "i win" button in game which kills basicly everything on grid.
And who has the need to cloak their titan when you got 27 of them? There are enough ways that you can get arround the lack of cloak, and with 26 friends they dont have to worry that much about getting tackled.
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Manterror
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Posted - 2009.06.24 09:24:00 -
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the longer its left unchecked, the more time pilots have to train the skills, and eventually 0.0 will just be filled with Titans.
I dont want to pvp in a galaxy where the BS is made redundant. period.
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Rua
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.24 09:41:00 -
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Make titans moving space stations that can't cloak or enter pos shields, remove pos from sov mechanics and change sov to work based on titans...
No more doomsdays and no more shooting at stupid pos towers, instead your shooting at some dudes titan while a fleet trys to keep him alive, mass fleet battle ensues and everyone has fun.
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Epofhis
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.24 09:43:00 -
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I was on Goon TS when the 27 DD salute went off in 49-. The whole time, the titan pilots involved didn't know whether the DD chain would destroy them all or not. DD's don't need to be nerfed. The application of titans in general needs to be rethought. I've read some good ideas about what should be done, and to my mind the option of adding a script to make a DD a focused beam (read: pos and capital destroyer) would be the way to go. Titans have slots for capital sized weapons... why don't they ever get used? Because it makes more sense to fit officer SB's and neuts to clean off any tacklers. This is just, as stated before, the players who fly these ships making the best tactical decisions based on what they are likely to come up against. This issue doesn't need a nerf, it needs a change of doctrine.
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ovenproofjet
Caldari Swords of Clarity Galactic Federation of Varied Operations
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Posted - 2009.06.24 10:31:00 -
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Wait who's nerfing big boobs?!!!! DD's must be repected!!
Oh wait....you mean titans, yeah nerf away at them, the fact that anyone can afford to bring that many doomsdays to one place means that the titan is no longer filling the role CCP intended. It was designed to be the flagship of an ALLIANCES fleet. Now it seems even individuals can own two (yes I'm refering to Chribba, but he's kind of an exception!), so perhaps make them a damn side more expensive. Why not make them need T2 components like jump freighters do? That would certainly bump up the asking price for one and make Shrike think twice before losing another four |
Acop
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Posted - 2009.06.24 12:17:00 -
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Just a thought: What if titans were locked down for 5-10 minutes just like cyno field generating ships? Prevent them from warping/jumping for a few minutes after the DD has been fired.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.24 12:35:00 -
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That is a terrible idea. Then you still have a way in game to destroy an entire fleet with one push on a button. That is just a terrible idea. (Not to mention with 30 titans who is going to tackle them anyway? If they are stuck for 5 minutes and you warp your dread fleet on them you lose your dread fleet to the other titans).
Quote: The whole time, the titan pilots involved didn't know whether the DD chain would destroy them all or not. DD's don't need to be nerfed.
Sorry i dont believe even goon titan pilots can be that stupid. Do 27 times 65k (roughly damage of a doomsday), and look if that number is smaller or larger than your ehp. You will notice it is far smaller than their ehp. Not to mention that the doomsdays werent fired at the same time. If a group of titans would get too low HP left they would have just stopped the other doomsdays from firing.
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fencer35
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Posted - 2009.06.24 12:44:00 -
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Quote: Rock Paper Shotgun.
In other words, a new ship or ships. A designated titan killer. It doesnt need to be bigger just specialized to be a big problem for titans and can rock paper scissored by something already in game.
Yes !!!!! I like it
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