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Dasalt Istgut	Posted - 2009.06.27 12:45:00 - [151] Gallente have good ships. Ishtar is awesome. Domi is awesome. Mega is awesome. Hyperion is awesome. Ishkur is awesome. Taranis is awesome. Arazu/Lachesis both **** faces (leave the RSDs for newbs and empire war-decs). Etc. Stop sucking, srsly.
ApollyN Caldari Corporation 12345	Posted - 2009.06.27 12:54:00 - [152] So why does Gall have to be the best? I remember when gall was seriously FotM, everyone flew them, then it was Minny, now its Amarr. Every race has a ship thats good at its role. Sure, not every race has a ship thats 'the best' in one specific role, impossible with 4 races but they all have a use. Arazu isnt perfect but its awesome for making sure fragile SBs cant be locked by the BS they are ganking. Thorax is great, as is vexor. CS are expensive through and through. Sure, Astarte has blaster issues but solo pvp in a command ship is pretty ballsy these days no matter what tbh. In a gang thats got some logistics and a tackler/rapier or whatever then its lethal dps. Megathron is still DPS monster, topping countless killmails for dmg done through any alliance or corp. sure solo its not the gank machine it used to be but at least it doesnt suck as bad as a tempest in terms of available tank and dps. Sure, tempy might get lucky with some ewar but everyone ECCMs these days (or should). Ive seen nearly every single race be 'top of the heap' and be bottom. Remember when amarr could deal pretty much EM and a small bit of Therm? they sucked. now they're awesome. I fly minny with a mix of Gall and none of the ships I fly are 'the best' in every situation. Sure, vaga is a nice tackle/pirate but its got dps issues and is ruined if anything shows up with scrams/webs. (sure, you can get away but thats no fun). Tempest has been mentioned - poor dps comparatively, lacking tank and spare mids with no real use. sleipnir rocks but most CS do, just dont bother active tanking it, go buffer and bring logistics. Rapier is paper thin and webs just dont cut it as well as they used to, Maelstrom rocks but again has active tank issues faced by so many, its easy to whine about any ship in a certain situation but they all have a role, even if they are a bit niche now and again, and most ships can be applied well to pvp with a well setup idea/gang.
deathstriker seven	Posted - 2009.06.27 12:55:00 - [153] Edited by: deathstriker seven on 27/06/2009 12:57:20 Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Ishtar is awesome. Domi is awesome. The gallente drone ships are good. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Mega is awesome. Mega is ok as a sniper (not as good as the apoc though) but needs help with blasters and not even close to being as good at close range gang pvp as the abaddon. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Hyperion is awesome. LOL just LOL... Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Ishkur is awesome. Taranis is awesome. At least you got summat right. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Arazu/Lachesis both ** faces. Oh dear back to idiocy..if you wanna use a recon for solo pick the curse or pilgrim, for gang use a ecm boat. Originally by:** Dasalt Istgut Stop sucking, srsly. You first.
Dasalt Istgut	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:01:00 - [154] Originally by: deathstriker seven Edited by: deathstriker seven on 27/06/2009 12:57:20 Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Ishtar is awesome. Domi is awesome. The gallente drone ships are good. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Mega is awesome. Mega is ok as a sniper (not as good as the apoc though) but needs help with blasters and not even close to being as good at close range gang pvp as the abaddon. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Hyperion is awesome. LOL just LOL... Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Ishkur is awesome. Taranis is awesome. At least you got summat right. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Arazu/Lachesis both ** faces. Oh dear back to idiocy..if you wanna use a recon for solo pick the curse or pilgrim, for gang use a ecm boat. Originally by:** Dasalt Istgut Stop sucking, srsly. You first. Pilgrim and curse are also good. Maybe someday you'll learn that you can put up 1000+ kills without needing to fly the #1 ship in every category.
deathstriker seven	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:08:00 - [155] Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Pilgrim and curse are also good. Maybe someday you'll learn that you can put up 1000+ kills without needing to fly the #1 ship in every category. Considering i passed 4000 kills a long time ago id say i really need no lessons from you, oh and before you make a CAOD worthy copmment NONE of them were with a gate camping smart bombing BS. If pointing out the best ships per style of pvp is so offensive to you maybe you need to go back to CAOD where intolerance and trolling is accepted.
Dasalt Istgut	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:12:00 - [156] Originally by: deathstriker seven If pointing out the best ships per style of pvp is so offensive to you maybe you need to go back to CAOD where intolerance and trolling is accepted. The point is no race will ever have the top ship in every category. Gallente is good because it has a number of ships that fit roles and do well in those roles and those roles are roles that come into play daily (heavy tackler for instance, when you talk about shield tanked lachy/arazu). Compare this to Amarr a couple years ago when they sucked at everything. Its not worth whining that lachesis/arazu aren't the curse/pilgrim - they don't need to be, they're good at things that the curse and pilgrim aren't good at which is good enough.
deathstriker seven	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:24:00 - [157] Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Originally by: deathstriker seven If pointing out the best ships per style of pvp is so offensive to you maybe you need to go back to CAOD where intolerance and trolling is accepted. The point is no race will ever have the top ship in every category. Sniper = apoc (best). Solo = curse/pilgrim (best). Gang = (cruiser)zealot, (BC)harbi, (BS)abaddon (best). Did a miss a catagory cos if so its gonna be a very niche one. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Gallente is good because it has a number of ships that fit roles and do well in those roles and those roles are roles that come into play daily (heavy tackler for instance, when you talk about shield tanked lachy/arazu). I hardly ever see either of those ships shield tanked and used as heavy tacklers tbh. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Compare this to Amarr a couple years ago when they sucked at everything. Not really, but then amaar did have the best whiners in eve for a long time so maybe that is what is confusing you. Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Its not worth whining that lachesis/arazu aren't the curse/pilgrim - they don't need to be, they're good at things that the curse and pilgrim aren't good at which is good enough. Rubbish, they got royally screwed with the damp nerf and the very fact you made the comment about tackling and shield tanking illustrates that clearly.
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.06.27 14:07:00 - [158] Originally by: deathstriker seven Originally by: Dasalt Istgut Gallente is good because it has a number of ships that fit roles and do well in those roles and those roles are roles that come into play daily (heavy tackler for instance, when you talk about shield tanked lachy/arazu). I hardly ever see either of those ships shield tanked and used as heavy tacklers tbh. Look harder. Shield Zu is awesome fun.

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