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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.10.22 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
I'm not sure if I will be aquiring a Titan for myself, if I do it is likely to be an Avatar because there is something about a laser spewing cosmic death mushroom that appeals to me.
You just want you're own personal Death Star
...glad to see things launched and off. I think you'll gladly see Dominion bolster demand more than we had anticipated.
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eXistentiA
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.24 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: eXistentiA on 24/10/2009 13:10:20 If anyone is looking to sell their shares at this point send me an evemail. im interested in purchasing about 1000 more ---------- corporate solutions
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.10.24 13:51:00 -
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I also have a couple of clients that are interested in buying shares, extending a 2000 permanent share buy order!
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2009.10.24 15:51:00 -
[1174]
No one worried about the 40% price drop in Titan BPC's?
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.10.24 17:06:00 -
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I expect it to rise again after dominion, or in the future, i am sure that ccp intends for titans to become more rare ;) I am purely speculating, but i put my money where my mouth is.
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Athre
Minmatar The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2009.10.24 19:23:00 -
[1176]
If you are looking to buy some shares please evemail me.
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eXistentiA
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.25 22:05:00 -
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purchasing 400 shares from aethre , cash sent ---------- corporate solutions
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Athre
Minmatar The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2009.10.25 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: eXistentiA purchasing 400 shares from aethre , cash sent
Isk received, shares sent.
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eXistentiA
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.25 22:10:00 -
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shares received , tks again ---------- corporate solutions
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Lunewraith
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.10.26 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray No one worried about the 40% price drop in Titan BPC's?
At the moment, not worried about the drop as much as I'm concerned about the seeming inability to sell prints after the the changes hit Sisi. I've been trying to lowball a few prints, not so much as I'm trying to snipe a good deal. I'm concerned I may not be able to divest myself of them should I need to liquidate assets in a short time frame.
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2009.10.31 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark There is also the possibility of paying a small fee for someone who can find a buyer for the BPC, perhaps as a percentage of sale price above 10b (1% fee -> 11b sale -> 1% of 1b -> 10m fee). Just throwing a 10-15b item on the sell forums for a week isn't exactly making the best of its potential.
I have already offered a finder's fee to a number of contacts in order to reward them for bringing me customers (it's worked well for me in the past too) but I'm not offering it openly to everyone as it would then amount to a % discount on all purchases.
On the general subject of BPC sales, as our first will be ready in less than a month, I'm intending to take the following approach but I am always open to suggestions and discussion on the matter:
I will create a shop thread, linked to and from this thread, in the sell orders forum. This will show an ETA for the next BPC of each Titan type and will list a pre-order price for each. Anyone wishing to take up a pre-order will have to pay a deposit equal to 10% of the final price and in so doing they will reserve that BPC and have first refusal on it at the pre-order price (minus their deposit) at the time that it becomes available. Anyone backing out on a pre-order forfits their deposit and in so doing makes the BPC available for general sale.
Those BPCs that do not find buyers through pre-order on the shop thread will then be sold by a combination of in-game contract and forum sales or whatever other means I may dream up.
I have offered a percentage finder's fee to a number of business contacts (the actual percentage differs from contact to contact) that I will honour should they bring me a purchase. This fee will also apply to bringing me pre-orders deposits, even if the final sale falls through.
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Titans 4U
Titans For You
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Posted - 2009.10.31 12:23:00 -
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The Shop Thread is up.
Bumps will always be welcome!
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.06 22:03:00 -
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Anyone keeping up on how hard sov upgrades will be to attain?? From the looks of it if you are not ratting and/or mining 23/7 you won't be able to increase the numbers needed to place upgrades. Also once you stop ratting or mining then those numbers decay.
Originally by: CCP Sisyphus Getting the military and industrial indices to increase is a lot of work. A lone person will not really make a dent.
You will need a minimum of two hulks stripmining to get anything at all on the industrial. And Be killing a lot of belt rats to get any military. To get the higher levels (2,3,4) you will need to have already put in the early upgrades, and have a a fair few people spending their time playing there.
The index values decay.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1207007&page=1#21
It will be interesting where the industrial bases get located for alliances. Most will have to be located in systems with a huge number of belts to be able to get the numbers higher to place upgrades.
It will also be funny watching people actually forced to mine jaspet
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Titans 4U
Titans For You
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Posted - 2009.11.08 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 Looking at the chart with the current prices it looks like it will cost 56 million per day for just the sov, hub, super cap array, and cyno jammer. So thats 1.68 billion ISK just for 30 days of maintance.
Fortunately, supercapital production is not the only justification for claiming sovereignty and upgrading your systems. These system upkeep costs are going to apply regardless of wether you build supercaps there or not. If you can't justify the cost of claiming sovereignty and installing upgrades without building supercapitals then, quite honestly, you're doing it wrong.
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.08 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Breaker77 on 08/11/2009 15:09:44
Originally by: Titans 4U If you can't justify the cost of claiming sovereignty and installing upgrades without building supercapitals then, quite honestly, you're doing it wrong.
2000 posts of people from just about every 0.0 alliance stating that they would rather run level 4 missions in highsec because it is more profitable and mostly risk free would indicate to me that titans are dieing and will be dead very soon, along with the majority of 0.0 unless the upkeep costs are tweaked which CCP has stated in that thread they are considering changing them.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.08 15:09:00 -
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Good for you breaker :D Some of us think otherwise. You might be right, you can very well be right.
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.08 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama Good for you breaker :D Some of us think otherwise. You might be right, you can very well be right.
I have a good chuck of ISK in this venture as well, so I have a lot on the line just like you and everyone else involved. I'm not trying to be the gloom and doom naysayer, but as it stands now Dominion is a massive nerf to 0.0 space.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.08 15:40:00 -
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Funny how people see things differently :D I see it as a 0.0 boost :D I share the developers vision that titans should be rare. :D
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.08 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Breaker77 on 08/11/2009 15:53:02
Originally by: Ji Sama Funny how people see things differently :D
I agree
Quote: I see it as a 0.0 boost :D
Will be seen once it actually comes out
Quote: I share the developers vision that titans should be rare. :D
I agree, but wait aren't we involved in a project of selling Titan BPCs to profit??
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.08 16:09:00 -
[1190]
Titans, BPC's Researched BPO's whatever direction bobby wants to take this :D
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2009.11.09 01:16:00 -
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What you will see is that alliances will have a core home system (or a few core systems), which is/are fully upgraded, has cyno jammmers etc.
In this system a lot of cap ship production will occur. Instead of being spread out it will be heavily concentrated.
On the downside, if the Devs want to make Titans more diffcult to build, and also reduce the income of the major alliances then this would be a severe blow to Titan manufacture.
note: it looks to me that CCP has alliance finances in their site with this patch. The numbers at the top of the big alliances must be huge!
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Dzil
Caldari United Kings Holdings
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Posted - 2009.11.09 15:35:00 -
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Hey, I know I represent all of a whopping 200m in this venture, but maybe this would be the right time to execute a round of ME / PE research on the BPOs, till demand recovers? I don't mind waiting out a recovering in the BPC price till next cycle; an investment in the value of the BPO guarantees an increased value of the shares.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.09 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dzil Hey, I know I represent all of a whopping 200m in this venture, but maybe this would be the right time to execute a round of ME / PE research on the BPOs, till demand recovers? I don't mind waiting out a recovering in the BPC price till next cycle; an investment in the value of the BPO guarantees an increased value of the shares.
This is a very good idea.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.11.09 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Dzil Hey, I know I represent all of a whopping 200m in this venture, but maybe this would be the right time to execute a round of ME / PE research on the BPOs, till demand recovers? I don't mind waiting out a recovering in the BPC price till next cycle; an investment in the value of the BPO guarantees an increased value of the shares.
This is a very good idea.
I second this.
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Kithran
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Posted - 2009.11.09 16:27:00 -
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This is the situation with the BPOs at the moment as far as I can tell
Leviathan ME 0 - in copy, due to complete this month Erebus ME 0 - in ME research atm, due to complete January Avatar ME 0 - in ME research atm, due to complete February
I believe the plan was to put the Leviathan into ME research once the copy has been completed. There will be time to see what effect Dominion has before any of the other prints come out of research.
Kithran
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2009.11.10 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Dzil Hey, I know I represent all of a whopping 200m in this venture, but maybe this would be the right time to execute a round of ME / PE research on the BPOs, till demand recovers? I don't mind waiting out a recovering in the BPC price till next cycle; an investment in the value of the BPO guarantees an increased value of the shares.
This is a very good idea.
I second this.
I too believe this is a good idea, as I did when I first proposed it back when we first discussed the launch of this operation.
Originally by: Kithran This is the situation with the BPOs at the moment as far as I can tell
Leviathan ME 0 - in copy, due to complete this month Erebus ME 0 - in ME research atm, due to complete January Avatar ME 0 - in ME research atm, due to complete February
I believe the plan was to put the Leviathan into ME research once the copy has been completed. There will be time to see what effect Dominion has before any of the other prints come out of research.
Kithran
Pretty much spot on. So after the Leviathan BPC comes out in a couple of weeks it's going to be April before we get another copy, which will be ME 1 and everything will have settled down some from the Dominion changes.
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Titans 4U If you can't justify the cost of claiming sovereignty and installing upgrades without building supercapitals then, quite honestly, you're doing it wrong.
2000 posts of people from just about every 0.0 alliance stating that they would rather run level 4 missions in highsec because it is more profitable and mostly risk free would indicate to me that titans are dieing and will be dead very soon, along with the majority of 0.0 unless the upkeep costs are tweaked which CCP has stated in that thread they are considering changing them.
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Ji Sama Good for you breaker :D Some of us think otherwise. You might be right, you can very well be right.
I have a good chuck of ISK in this venture as well, so I have a lot on the line just like you and everyone else involved. I'm not trying to be the gloom and doom naysayer, but as it stands now Dominion is a massive nerf to 0.0 space.
The figures I've been seeing suggest that CCP will be lowering those costs before the final release of Dominion.
However, I do not share the opinion of the 2000-odd alliance members that have complained about the system prices. I as a founding member of a 0.0 alliance welcome the changes, I see them as an enhancement to my playstyle and good shake up of the status quo. But this shouldn't be suprising, the pro-status-quo crowd will complain because their are going to lose out and it is in their interest to complain. I'm going to benefit, so I'm pro the changes. It's just differing perspective and the fact that I keep a lean mean PvP focused alliance which is ready to adapt and overcome whereas others keep bloated monolithic alliances stuffed with farmers, carebears and forum whiners to whom the concept of change is as terrifying as the idea of undocking/uncloaking with reds in local.
But let's save that for a different forum.
I know I'll be on the frontlines pew pewing people in my Avatar and I expect, given my propensity for drunken pew, I will be a frequent customer for replacements. I don't think I'll be the only one.
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Le Chevalier
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Posted - 2009.11.12 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Dzil Hey, I know I represent all of a whopping 200m in this venture, but maybe this would be the right time to execute a round of ME / PE research on the BPOs, till demand recovers? I don't mind waiting out a recovering in the BPC price till next cycle; an investment in the value of the BPO guarantees an increased value of the shares.
This is a very good idea.
I second this.
This would be my vote as well but I would like to always keep one bpo copying and hold off selling copies until market recovers. This was a long term investment, if we have 3 copies ready for when the market does its inevitable spike up then yay for us.
On a different note, perhaps as a group we buy up other copies on the market while prices are depressed, try to drive up prices by keeping supply low and having extras to sell when titan market restarts. We could base the amount of isk on share ownership.
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Icaly
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Posted - 2009.11.17 13:27:00 -
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I need to sell my 250 shares, please mail me in game if you are interested in buying them. Icaly
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Breaker77
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.17 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Icaly I need to sell my 250 shares, please mail me in game if you are interested in buying them. Icaly
Msg sent
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Yantoe
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Posted - 2009.11.18 13:33:00 -
[1200]
Edited by: Yantoe on 18/11/2009 13:34:01
Originally by: Breaker77
Msg sent
Cool thanks, i was not able to get online for long last night but i'll get back to you this evening icaly
Edit: Wrong character
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