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Mshappypanties
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:06:00 -
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As a new player I have absolutely no hope at killing another player that has over 20M+ skill points. The disparity is so large it is almost pointless to even try. Better yet, these people sit around in 0.4 areas and make it completely pointless/stupid to even set foot in these areas. There is no exploration to be done because the gates are camped and you will get blown up right away.
For a game that takes forever to do anything in, it seems like a huge bucket of fail on the part of the developer to make such a disparity. In other games, where the death penalty isnt as extreme, there is a "level range" of which a player cannot attack. For instance in EQ1 on the Rallos Zek server you could not attack someone greater than 4 levels below you, but in EvE with HARSHER death penalties(in EQ1 you got one item from the person you killed) they allow for people with massive amounts of gametime to just destroy new players.
Honestly is there even a point to play if you're new? Other than running missions in high security(which I may add are very boring after the 15th one), its almost evident that one has to quit the game.
Besides griefing in 0.4 gates, another pasttime of older players is to harass new players with can flipping and attacking them in high security.
I think the only reason there are so many subscriptions is because people have 3-4 alts each...
I think they need to make a restriction that you cant attack someone that has 5M+ skill points less than you other than sanctioned areas.
I honestly think this is a huge fail that needs to be addressed.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:09:00 -
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I thought this too when I was a newbie 3 years ago. Then I killed 2 pirates who had 2-3 years on me and thought: "All that sp advantage doesn't mean much when applied to actual in game mechanics"
Suck it up or GTFO.
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mshappypanties As a new player I have absolutely no hope at killing another player that has over 20M+ skill points.
old troll 0/10 GTFO
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mshappypanties The disparity is so large it is almost pointless to even try.
You are wrong because: - you can bring friends, 2 of you will easily kill one older player especially if you use EW - real skill matters, many older characters are bought and their owner does't know how to pvp, also some people don't pvp a lot (industrialist) - you can't put 20mil points in one ship, you can catch up with older players very fast if you specialize |
Gold Rogers
Maiden Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:21:00 -
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So you're basically asking for people to have the ability to use newbies alt to scout that can't be killed? |
Anvalor
Gallente Germania Inc. D0GMA
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:23:00 -
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I have an example. If i have all gunnery skills at 5, all gallente ships at 5 and so on that does mean you never can learn them to 5 or what? Or do you think when i fly a Megathron for example, that the skills like minmatar bs and amar bs will help me in that moment ? I can only fly one ship per time. The only advantage i have is that i can choose from more ships than you and maybe i got more expierience over the years but that is all, you troll. |
Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:30:00 -
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Don't feed it. --
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sxndy
Gallente Snuff inc
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:32:00 -
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Yes, you do need some sp, but most of killing is done with the use of tactics and guts.
I know some guys that only had 7mill sp at the time and could pvp with the best of them.
SP is overated, its what's inside your head that gets kills.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mshappypanties Stuff
Hmm that's weird, a couple of players just a few days old went out in t1 fit rifters and kicked the crap out of people.
Here's a link.
Maybe you should understand that SP can mean next to nothing. My friend's alt has 45 million SP, but hasn't trained 1 single combat skill aside from the ones that came with the character. If he decided to make the alt a PvP alt you'd have a better chance at fighting him than you would expect.
/dangit, I fed the troll again didn't I?
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Micia
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: sxndy SP is overated, its what's inside your head that gets kills.
This. |
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:44:00 -
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Stop trolling
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Astrixx
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: Astrixx on 26/06/2009 08:45:26 lol i like your name, I think the EVE universe needs a mshappypanties, don't quite mshappypanties!
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I'mA Geezer
Friends Of Derek
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:48:00 -
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I've got 70 mill skill points and you could probably kill me. I'm a complete carebear pansy.
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Zaiyo Modi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.26 08:56:00 -
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Boo! This is an MMO ffs not necessarily a solo-gank-feel-good-game.
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vulnevia
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2009.06.26 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: vulnevia on 26/06/2009 09:06:11 After reading both this post and your post about being (boho) station camped in low sec I came to the conclusion that EVE isn't the game for you. What you want is a game where you can be safe all the time (which is NOT at all what EVE is), and you also said you wanted a PvP-free server. Now you're ranting about how everything takes for eeeeeever and that missions are boooooring.
So? Quit EVE if it's so horrible. Start playing Hello Kitty Online och Maple Story or something else that will make you a happy pantie again. Coz now you're Miss Saurkraute Panties.
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Shadowsword
Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.26 09:16:00 -
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Eve is one of the most newb-friendly games out there, if not the most.
Don't try to use SP as an excuse to mask your lack of ability. ------------------------------------------
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.06.26 09:25:00 -
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Time spent in eve increased breadth it does not mean you are invincible.
As others said earlier in the thread, that breadth doesn't really help you when your doing a specific task.
For instance mining/building skills don't help in combat (and you'd be surprised how many pirates started out as miners/builders).
Even if they are pure combat their ability to fly different size ships and even different races doesn't help them when flying a specific ship.
If your willing to put in the time and especially if you get some help you can easily kill older pilots.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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R Mika
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Posted - 2009.06.26 09:48:00 -
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2009.06.26 10:38:00 -
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1. troll.
2. like em or not, history of bees.
3. focused SP allocation.
4. MMO
5. most likely 1.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.06.26 10:43:00 -
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My Carrier V makes me a god in a HAC skirmish!
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.06.26 10:59:00 -
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Veldspar! |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:06:00 -
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my level 30 got pwnzord in w0w cuz the level 199's with their tier OVER 9000!!! gear are douchebags! errm, my bad wrong game.
I jump'd to lowsec in my hauler and got killed, I was going to rens from jita, there are pirate camps everwhere!!! nerf everyone but me! |
TaluxA
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:10:00 -
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Well...
Gatecamps are avoidable. Check out your map, scout with an alt if neccessary. If you're in a frigate it's unlikely that a lowsec camp can catch you anyway. A lot of camps outside of notorious systems like Decon or Rancer are often just a few ships, which means they're nowhere near invincible. 0.0 is a different story of course.
As for the skillpoint thing.. you're kind of right. A 1 million SP player can't beat a 20 million SP player in 99% of cases. But a 7 million SP player has quite a good chance at killing the vet, depending on what he or she is flying. Eve's skill system does flatten out after around six months, at which point you can pick a couple of ships to specialise and level up to V with. You won't be able to fly as many ships as the vet, that's true, but the ones you chose you'll be just as good as the best of them (potentially).
It takes some patience for sure, but after you get over the SP 'bump' the game opens up a lot more. Or you can just join a good corp and get straight in the action.
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Daemonspirit on 26/06/2009 11:14:27 Contact me in game.
There are only EVER five levels of learning associated with a ship. If you get your *racial* frigate to V, you have just caught up with EVERYONE in the game that has Frigate V... Same for Cruisers, BC's, BS's...
A pilot with 100M skillpoints probably has 90% spread around in different areas. ALL his missile skills don't count towards his projectile skill, Projectile and Missile Skills don't count towards Hybrid skills...
It comes down to this:
With a warp disrupter/scram & webber, you Mr. Newplayer, can grab and hold a 100M sp player. NOTHING he can do about it.
That older player may have more experience fighting and dying, but you can get that easy enough... :)
Good luck m8, remember, you too can become rich and infamous if you want... but its up to you to do it!
Originally by: Micia
Originally by: sxndy SP is overated, its what's inside your head that gets kills.
This.
QFT!
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Daemonspirit
With a warp disrupter/scram & webber, you Mr. Newplayer, can grab and hold a 100M sp player. NOTHING he can do about it.
except ya know, shoot back, but small detail.
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Daemonspirit
With a warp disrupter/scram & webber, you Mr. Newplayer, can grab and hold a 100M sp player. NOTHING he can do about it.
except ya know, shoot back, but small detail.
Yah, go play with your nano-carriers... :P ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:17:00 -
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A drooling idiot with instant-gratification needs and no idea what he's doing is easily beaten by someone resource-full, intelligent with patience and a good plan.
We need to DUMB DOWN THE GAME TO MAKE THE FORMER NOT FEEL LEFT OUT IN THE COLD!!!!!!!!
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Chantilly Layce
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mshappypanties
For a game that takes forever to do anything in, it seems like a huge bucket of fail on the part of the developer to make such a disparity. In other games, where the death penalty isnt as extreme, there is a "level range" of which a player cannot attack. For instance in EQ1 on the Rallos Zek server you could not attack someone greater than 4 levels below you, but in EvE with HARSHER death penalties(in EQ1 you got one item from the person you killed) they allow for people with massive amounts of gametime to just destroy new players.
I honestly think this is a huge fail that needs to be addressed.
Well, you ain't in EQ anymore. Either learn the game well enough to pick fights you can win, nevermind making more educated posts, or GTFO.
Your call.
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TaluxA
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:20:00 -
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Also you might find a lot of Eve players kinda hostile ;). But that's how people are I spose. |
Lilla Kharn
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.26 11:22:00 -
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Go home. |
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