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Cyprus Black
Caldari 4 wing Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.06.30 00:55:00 -
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Obvious scam is obvious. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. |

Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.30 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Snasty
Originally by: Morgul Ze whats up with all the hostility?
Ditto...
ditto is a horrible pokemon
mudkip is much better >_<
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Vlaad Brannigan
Caldari Wolfram And Heart
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Posted - 2009.06.30 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Morgul Ze whats up with all the hostility? The website might not have the best layout and lots of cool blinkie stuff - but it works. I think its great fun (eve in windowmode while ratting + blackjack on top makes time go faster) and i bet there are alot that share the same opinion.
The creator have allready stated it is in beta. Changes will come, upgrades will be done and im sure a proper domain will be used when the site is close to fully developed..
Anyways, loving the blackjack (that damn dealer though is a real pain sometimes! :P). Thanks! :)
Thanks, nice to hear :) I was very quick to up this site because of the fact that I wanted to see if people thought it was a fun idea. And yes changes will come, tons of them!
And when it comes to random numbers: there are no such thing as a random , even outside of computers. Everything is the cause of actions and the result is depending on the other factors. Everything is relative!
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Orey Minesalot
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Posted - 2009.06.30 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vlaad Brannigan
Why would I code a check against if people manually type the wrong url's instead of using the links on the website? ;P
It's complete FAIL like this that highlights the differences between seasoned programmers and beginners. I don't expect you'll understand the wisdom in this statement until you become a seasoned programmer, which is a shame, really.
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Brad Vrannigan
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Posted - 2009.06.30 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Orey Minesalot
Originally by: Vlaad Brannigan
Why would I code a check against if people manually type the wrong url's instead of using the links on the website? ;P
It's complete FAIL like this that highlights the differences between seasoned programmers and beginners. I don't expect you'll understand the wisdom in this statement until you become a seasoned programmer, which is a shame, really.
You're missing the point, this is a BETA.
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Grek Forto
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.06.30 08:26:00 -
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Like one previous poster said, "What's with the hostility?"
Sure, the guy might not be the best programmer, but he stated it's in beta and that he does because he thinks its fun. So you guys that are being haters and not coming with any constructive critisism can **** off. Grek Forto Yarring Blog |

BIZZAROSTORMY
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Posted - 2009.06.30 10:53:00 -
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"A: We can only give you our word that we won't scam you. "
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Sylar Darkayen
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Posted - 2009.06.30 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Brad Vrannigan Edited by: Brad Vrannigan on 30/06/2009 08:20:14 Edited by: Brad Vrannigan on 30/06/2009 08:20:10 Edited by: Brad Vrannigan on 30/06/2009 08:20:05
Originally by: Orey Minesalot
Originally by: Vlaad Brannigan
Why would I code a check against if people manually type the wrong url's instead of using the links on the website? ;P
It's complete FAIL like this that highlights the differences between seasoned programmers and beginners. I don't expect you'll understand the wisdom in this statement until you become a seasoned programmer, which is a shame, really.
You're missing the point, this is a BETA. The future dedicated webserver will be configured to handle invalid headers.
People are already using your service and it is completely and utterly open to attack. Beta or not, simple things like messed up URL's should be checked for. There is no excuse.
I do not say it is not a great idea, but you made it available to the public way to soon.
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Brad Vrannigan
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Brad Vrannigan on 30/06/2009 15:20:24 Edited by: Brad Vrannigan on 30/06/2009 15:20:17
Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY "A: We can only give you our word that we won't scam you. "
I don't know how many times to say this but, if you don't trust the service then don't use it.
And on another topic, I appreciate all critisism, I really do. But those of you who already decided that you will never ever use this service, and give criticism just for the sake of flaming me, I don't see the point.
It doesn't help in any way, it doesn't make the service better. I never said I am some kind of guru and I never said I was any better than you are. So why are you trying to prove yourself?
This is a fun project that I hope will one day grow into something people can enjoy. And I already said that the database is backed up each hour to a completely different database, and this service, the information for the backup database or any references to it can NOT be found on the webserver or the first database so even IF someone managed to mess up the site / database, noones isk would go lost.
Please if you are interested enough to point out the bad and the ugly, take interest and try to help improve them.
And when the site is up on a new webserver on a new domain, these issues you call security issues will be solved.
Oh and the cache for the bank characters journal is also backed up with every sync, which occurs every 15th minute. So that means 96 backups a day of every single transaction that occurs.
On on top of that, every transaction TO the bank character gets emailed with details to a special emailbox wether it is successful or not. If it's not successful the isk will be sent back to the person who sent the isk. And this can also be used as yet another layer of backup of the transaction system.
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Morgul Ze
Black Rise Angels
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Posted - 2009.06.30 19:33:00 -
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Confirming all my withrawels have been delivered :)
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Morgul Ze
Black Rise Angels
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:31:00 -
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Quote: The blackjack client will be unavailable because of maintainance - Logs show one person trying to cheat himself to multiple billions likely by injecting the applications process. The system has failchecks for these kind of things but I want to make sure they are 100% bulletproof
there are cheaters in every casino i guess ^^
But say a person wins the 500million pot in the slotmachine 4 times (however unlikly that is) do you have the liquid ISK to pay that person right away?
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Vlaad Brannigan
Caldari Wolfram And Heart
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Morgul Ze
Quote: The blackjack client will be unavailable because of maintainance - Logs show one person trying to cheat himself to multiple billions likely by injecting the applications process. The system has failchecks for these kind of things but I want to make sure they are 100% bulletproof
there are cheaters in every casino i guess ^^
But say a person wins the 500million pot in the slotmachine 4 times (however unlikly that is) do you have the liquid ISK to pay that person right away?
Yeah I do, but its actually 50 million if you hit the 1:100 payout with maxbet since about the same time I released the site I lowered the max bet from 5 million to 500 000 isk.
Sorry for that missunderstanding I'll change the description on the games page right away.
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Delphi Denon
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.04 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vlaad Brannigan Edited by: Vlaad Brannigan on 30/06/2009 07:30:18 And when it comes to random numbers: there are no such thing as a random , even outside of computers. Everything is the cause of actions and the result is depending on the other factors. Everything is relative!
I'm sorry I'd like to call shenanigans on the comment that there is nothing random - try looking at gamma decay from radioactive samples, that is the only thing that can be used to be totally random - and iirc there is a site on the web who generates random numbers in this way and also has an API for other people to use it.
/Delphi
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Valandril
Caldari Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.07.05 19:25:00 -
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I call shenanigans on this project as it's written in no longer supported technology without such basic stuff like user input filtration. You also show close to no knownledge in matter of software security (you let stuff like that happend: http://www.wowhelper.net/eve/index.php?page=index) and claiming that your your results are "completely random". Your randomizer doesn't put any more "randomness" into random, you simple compliate this process for some whatever reasons and if somoene was to reproduce it in his enviroment, he can do this without much of trouble, in the same way he was to reproduce just random().
Based on that, i say that this is NOT secure enviroment for playin as there are many possible security holes that can be exploited to manipulate with data stored on server and i advice no one to play on that before he can show us results of complete code audit. Do not discuss moderation in your signature. Zymurgist |

Morgul Ze
Black Rise Angels
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Posted - 2009.07.06 15:33:00 -
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Any ETA on the blackjack client?
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