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Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
249
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Posted - 2012.05.19 16:58:00 -
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On day one, of this new CSM, we've had nothing but issues. Now with the latest shenanigans, yet again the CSM have shown their true colors. With the in fighting among the CSM and many with conflicts of interest due to their friendships and former alliances, it is clear the CSM is not looking out for the general populace of the game, and the game itself, and is more interested in their own selfish needs and stirring up **** storm after **** storm. This is not what the CSM was created for.
If you feel as I do. Cast a vote of "no confidence" in the current CSM and ask CCP for new elections. Enough is enough.
My vote. +1 vote of no confidence. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
246
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:05:00 -
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+1 Gonna have to agree with you here. Current CSM is about ineffectual to date. Will be interesting to listen to their Everadio about now
Nothing clever at this time. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:06:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:On day one, of this new CSM, we've had nothing but issues. Now with the latest shenanigans, yet again the CSM have shown their true colors. With the in fighting among the CSM and many with conflicts of interest due to their friendships and former alliances, it is clear the CSM is not looking out for the general populace of the game, and the game itself, and is more interested in their own selfish needs and stirring up **** storm after **** storm. This is not what the CSM was created for.
If you feel as I do. Cast a vote of "no confidence" in the current CSM and ask CCP for new elections. Enough is enough.
My vote. +1 vote of no confidence.
My guess is that you were one of those that actually thought the CSM was valid and actually the voice of Eve? Google "corrupt Chicago politics". Same diff. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:06:00 -
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Thread Title wrote:Current CSM Needs Desolved If they are already desolved then their is no longer a need.
You won, take a half day.
BTW what is desolved mean and what effect will it have on our CSM members? |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:16:00 -
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Strange how much almost ALL communications from their usual blogging has been non-existent !
Trebor, Seleene, Two Step?
My 4 accounts were split for all 3 of you and it has been REAL silent. Weirdly silent what with what all is going on. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3841
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:17:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:On day one, of this new CSM, we've had nothing but issues...
We heard some baseless rabble-rabble by a few people with nothing better to do than make a tale of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
"Issues" of substance, though? None. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
102
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:19:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Thread Title wrote:Current CSM Needs Desolved If they are already desolved then their is no longer a need. You won, take a half day. BTW what is desolved mean and what effect will it have on our CSM members?
I think it means most of us "solved" what the CSM really is/does, and some want us to completely ignore that fact and wallow in the blind ignorance of this metagame called CSM. |
Alara IonStorm
2190
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:20:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote: I think it means most of us "solved" what the CSM really is/does,
You mean advise CCP to implement what they want in the game?
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Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
252
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:21:00 -
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The CSM was suppose to be about helping CCP in the development of the game. Lately it has been about meta game, both in and out of game, and all about certain individuals and corps. The game does not revolve around them. There are thousands of players that try to enjoy this game. With the actions of the latest CSM, since day one, it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest. |
Alara IonStorm
2190
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:23:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest. Why is this a bad thing.
Like every election don't we all just vote for the guy whose interests we agree with.
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:24:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: With the actions of the latest CSM, since day one, it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest.
I'm not sure it's even about their own interests. Somebody's for sure, but whom ? Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
102
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:25:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest. Why is this a bad thing. Like every election don't we all just vote for the guy whose interests we agree with.
I personally didn't vote in the last one (four accounts) because I know it's a complete joke. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:26:00 -
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This is just like the rigged tournament. This CSM doesn't represent the player base. CCP KNOWS how they got elected. They KNOW they don't represent US. THEY KNOW, and they don't CARE. They can be that way all they want. It's their house. However, they have to live with the reputations they derive from it, not us. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Alara IonStorm
2190
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:27:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote: I personally didn't vote in the last one (four accounts) because I know it's a complete joke.
You won't run or vote but you want to effect how it works...
If more people want it gone then want it then why not nominate and vote only for people who would recommend dissolving it. |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
56
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:28:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:The CSM was suppose to be about helping CCP in the development of the game. Lately it has been about meta game, both in and out of game, and all about certain individuals and corps. The game does not revolve around them. There are thousands of players that try to enjoy this game. With the actions of the latest CSM, since day one, it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest.
just because Goons havefun doesn't mean you can't.... |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
148
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:36:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:The CSM was suppose to be about helping CCP in the development of the game. Lately it has been about meta game, both in and out of game, and all about certain individuals and corps. The game does not revolve around them. There are thousands of players that try to enjoy this game. With the actions of the latest CSM, since day one, it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest. just because Goons havefun doesn't mean you can't.... Next thing you know, you'll be telling us water is wet. Sharp observation there. Really. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
252
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:37:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:The CSM was suppose to be about helping CCP in the development of the game. Lately it has been about meta game, both in and out of game, and all about certain individuals and corps. The game does not revolve around them. There are thousands of players that try to enjoy this game. With the actions of the latest CSM, since day one, it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest. just because Goons havefun doesn't mean you can't....
This isn't about a corp, the CSM is about the game. By taking this mess in-game and making it part of the meta game that is EVE it can easily be used as a means to influence CCP to make changes that normally wouldn't be made. CSM was never meant to be a political entity within the game. It is turning into one though. And that is a bad thing.
It's about the game and its development. The CSM were suppose to be the players voice and to bring to CCP's attention the issues of the game to help CCP make the game better for "everyone" and not just a select few. |
Alara IonStorm
2193
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Posted - 2012.05.19 17:49:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: By taking this mess in-game and making it part of the meta game that is EVE it can easily be used as a means to influence CCP to make changes that normally wouldn't be made. Because they are all drooling idiots at CCP who can't see the difference between the give me an advantage idea's and the make the game fun ones? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3844
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:11:00 -
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Until Selene produces his real birth certificate he's not the real CSM chair
True story
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
252
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:11:00 -
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They actually addressed this issue in the townhall meeting. They were very candid and straight forth with their answer and I am confident that the CSM is in fact keeping their CSM responsibilites seperate from their in game intities. This is good.
I asked them about this issue in the townhall and they didn't try to dodge or make light of this issue at all. That says a lot about the people on the current CSM.
Confidence restored. |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1188
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:13:00 -
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abolish the CSM
hire community liaisons The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Alara IonStorm
2193
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Until Selene produces his real birth certificate he's not the real CSM chair
True story
Hawaii is barely a state anyway, more of a vacation spot.
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Florestan Bronstein
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
546
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Posted - 2012.05.19 19:44:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:The CSM was suppose to be about helping CCP in the development of the game. Lately it has been about meta game, both in and out of game, and all about certain individuals and corps. The game does not revolve around them. There are thousands of players that try to enjoy this game. With the actions of the latest CSM, since day one, it is clear that they have no interest in anything to do with the game that doesn't involve their own interest. EVE is a bad game. The meta game is its only redemption. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
499
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Posted - 2012.05.19 19:49:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:This is just like the rigged tournament. This CSM doesn't represent the player base. CCP KNOWS how they got elected. They KNOW they don't represent US. THEY KNOW, and they don't CARE. They can be that way all they want. It's their house. However, they have to live with the reputations they derive from it, not us.
PS Not to put too fine a point on it. The word you want is "dissolved." IF "desolved" is a real word, the CSM is already that. De-solved.
It tries to make a post or it gets the hose. |
Thunder Cobra
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.19 21:42:00 -
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-1. Current CSM is fine.
mmm mmm mmm! Goon Tears are TASTY!!!
nom nom nom |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.05.19 21:48:00 -
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Thunder Cobra wrote:-1. Current CSM is fine.
mmm mmm mmm! Goon Tears are TASTY!!!
nom nom nom
Saia isn't a Goon. Saia is about as far from being a Goon as you can get. |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.05.19 22:02:00 -
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Remove the whole IDEA of CSM... it's BS anyways. Does not work... failcarna anyone?
What we say (and the csm says) does not matter we know how to get what we want... UNSUB... CCP listens to nothing else. |
Mathias Hex
137
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Posted - 2012.05.20 02:12:00 -
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Ya well when you end up naked on the street jackin it in San Diego don't ask me for help. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2011
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Posted - 2012.05.20 02:38:00 -
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I cast a vote of "no confidence" for this thread. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.05.20 02:40:00 -
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adam smash wrote:Remove the whole IDEA of CSM... it's BS anyways. Does not work... failcarna anyone?
What we say (and the csm says) does not matter we know how to get what we want... UNSUB... CCP listens to nothing else.
Incarna happened because CCP didn't share vital information with the CSM. It was a failure on CCPs part, not the CSM. This is a failure which has been fixed. |
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