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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.01 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Janice Jankowski My interpretation of a heat wave in the UK is 20 Celsius.
Try living in 40 Celsius summers
Try living in 45+ Celcius summers. With massive humidity.
That's what it was like where I was born & grew up in the middle east.
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masie may
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Posted - 2009.07.01 11:24:00 -
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Ah well, us Yorkshire tykes have a different sense of temperature, so it's damn warm in the UK right now. See the chart below to understand the different behaviours of northern folk and southerners...
10C/50f - Southerners turn on their heating. Tykes plant their gardens. 4C/40f - Southerners shiver uncontrollably. Tykes Sunbathe. -1C/30f - Southern cars will not start. Tykes drive with their windows down -7C/20f - Southerners wear coats, gloves, and wool hats. Tykes throw a t-shirt on (Girls start wearing mini-skirts) -12C/10f - Southerners begin to Evacuate. Tykes go swimming in the North Sea. -18C/0f - Southern landlords turn up the heat. Tykes have the last barbecue before it gets cold. -23C/-10f - Southerners cease to exist. Tykes throw on a lightweight jacket. -62C/-80f - Polar bears wonder if itĘs worth it. Tyke Boy scouts start wearing long trousers. -73C/-100f - Santa Claus abandons the North Pole. Tykes put on their long johns. -114C/-173f - Alcohol freezes. Tykes become frustrated because the pubs are shut. -172C/-297f - Microbiological life starts to disappear. The cows on Leeds town moor complain of vets with cold hands. -273C/-460f - All atomic motion stops. Tykes start to stamp their feet and blow on their hands.
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Altair Alhammajid
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Posted - 2009.07.01 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Altair Alhammajid on 01/07/2009 11:48:45 It's funny, when people argue about beer and who has better, they always seem to be comparing America's domestic beer which is mass produced. Most of this beer does suck. But we do have alot of craft brewers here in the states, especially in the northeast. Our beer isn't always weak on the alcohol side. Just recently I had a cask conditioned double IPA. It had a alcohol content of 8% with an IBU of 60. Pleas do not compare Budweiser to your countries craft brews. Thats like comparing a diamond to a piece of coal. We have a variety with brewers taking much pride in their recipes. Guiness does suck here, but we have people making stouts that are actually good. Try Wolavers Organic Oatmeal Stout, now thats a good stout. Serve it a little warmer and enjoy. I would have to say Vermont has some of the best beer in the US. This is probably due to a strong movement in smaller, sustainable agriculture with an opposition to monocultures. We make pilsners as well, though not my favorite. I like the heartier ales and mostly I dig IPAs. Mmmmmm hops. We also make a variety of wheat ales, bocks, sour mash ales and spiced beers (which are usually hit or miss.) So please, actually indulge in american beer culture before you judge, our mass produced domestic beers suck and any true beer drinker is insulted by those being what other countries think we drink. Some people do, but they just want to get drunk, some of us though actually enjoy beer. Well, thats all I got. Come to Burlington, Vermont, check out the craft brews (especially Switchback, best unfiltered wheat ale in the northeast) and relax. There are gamers and then there are people who play SIMS. |
TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.07.01 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 01/07/2009 12:13:45
Originally by: Altair Alhammajid Edited by: Altair Alhammajid on 01/07/2009 11:48:45 It's funny, when people argue about beer and who has better, they always seem to be comparing America's domestic beer which is mass produced. Most of this beer does suck. But we do have alot of craft brewers here in the states, especially in the northeast. Our beer isn't always weak on the alcohol side. Just recently I had a cask conditioned double IPA. It had a alcohol content of 8% with an IBU of 60. Pleas do not compare Budweiser to your countries craft brews. Thats like comparing a diamond to a piece of coal. We have a variety with brewers taking much pride in their recipes. Guiness does suck here, but we have people making stouts that are actually good. Try Wolavers Organic Oatmeal Stout, now thats a good stout. Serve it a little warmer and enjoy. I would have to say Vermont has some of the best beer in the US. This is probably due to a strong movement in smaller, sustainable agriculture with an opposition to monocultures. We make pilsners as well, though not my favorite. I like the heartier ales and mostly I dig IPAs. Mmmmmm hops. We also make a variety of wheat ales, bocks, sour mash ales and spiced beers (which are usually hit or miss.) So please, actually indulge in american beer culture before you judge, our mass produced domestic beers suck and any true beer drinker is insulted by those being what other countries think we drink. Some people do, but they just want to get drunk, some of us though actually enjoy beer. Well, thats all I got. Come to Burlington, Vermont, check out the craft brews (especially Switchback, best unfiltered wheat ale in the northeast) and relax.
I'm sure american beer is fine, but we tend to only get 2 or 3 imported brands like budweiser.
Therefore, when we are drinking staropramen its fun to call americans pussies.
Edit: I like Corona, but thats mexican.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.07.01 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Nib
PS- Is there any particular reason for drinking beer warm or is it just something that's done?
So that you can taste it. Beer also goes back a very long way, and is very deep rooted in English culture. The celts were supposedly big ale drinkers. In medieval England the whole family would drink beer all the time, because the water on our overcrowded little island was polluted. The last big change (the adding of hops in the 15th century) caused riots. With that kind of history I guess people get stuck in their ways.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.07.01 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 01/07/2009 14:26:13 It's not like the US is the only country where they drink beer at a proper temperature. You Brits drink lew warm sewer water.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2009.07.01 14:46:00 -
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I prefer Miller to Budweiser (ice cold, ofc) but its a pain trying to find it any of the local shops =/
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Wrayeth
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.07.01 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Hudson 33 celsius or 91 Fahrenheit for u strange people. Ofcourse depending from where in america you live that could be considered not very hot,
This is very true. It was 110 yesterday, and it's already 90 this morning - and it's not even 8AM yet. (Phoenix, Arizona, USA)
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Jonny Lumi
Gallente Karjala Inc. The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:15:00 -
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I never understood the warm beer. Like, even if it's -30c outside here, everyone prefers their beer cold. There's a point though, everyone is used to drinking mass-produced beers here, and the taste certainly won't get better if they're warm.
One week with temperatures ranging 24c to 30c here in Finland. You can't keep your beer cold when drinking outside. The summer is too short to waste any sunshine sitting inside a house. Damn, I think we need help here (well we can keep the sunshine, just invent self-cooling beer bottles please, someone).
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Master Gotama
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Nib PS- Is there any particular reason for drinking beer warm or is it just something that's done?
the same reason why you don't serve wine ice cold. because you lose much of the flavor at very cold temps. for macro brewed american beer, its not so much of a problem, there's no real flavor to begin with. for micro brews/imports, you lose a lot when the temp is ice cold; not just cool...
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Iasius
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Iasius on 01/07/2009 16:26:28 The original Budvar as brewed in the Czech Republicbeer is delicous.
I like Stella Artios, Kronenbourg, Stropramen, Grolsh and Cobra Beer - ideal to wash a curry down.
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FOl2TY8
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:34:00 -
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Chimay Ale, hands down one of the best beers on the planet. Better tasting warm but more refreshing cold. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
Drunk Driver
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.01 17:00:00 -
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Warm, cold...
Who cares??? It's BEER!!!!!
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Master Gotama
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Posted - 2009.07.01 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Iasius Edited by: Iasius on 01/07/2009 16:26:28 The original Budvar as brewed in the Czech Republicbeer is delicous.
it's kind of sad really. this beer is available in the US, but goes by the name Czechvar, due to trademark issues with the "King of Beers" . Seems kinda silly when you consider that Budvar has been around since the 13th century.
by the by, if you're ever in the Czech Republic, try Gambrinus or Radegast, both exceptional beers from an exceptional land.
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.01 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny Lumi I never understood the warm beer. Like, even if it's -30c outside here, everyone prefers their beer cold. There's a point though, everyone is used to drinking mass-produced beers here, and the taste certainly won't get better if they're warm.
One week with temperatures ranging 24c to 30c here in Finland. You can't keep your beer cold when drinking outside. The summer is too short to waste any sunshine sitting inside a house. Damn, I think we need help here (well we can keep the sunshine, just invent self-cooling beer bottles please, someone).
Because the UK has real Ales that taste awful when cold.
Lagers like Carling, Carlsberg, taste nice cold and awful when warm.
Essentially its because they are different types of alcoholic beverages. Nobody like to drink coke when it's warm as opposed to cold, and nobody likes to drink cold tea. It's because they are different.
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.07.01 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8 Chimay Ale, hands down one of the best beers on the planet. Better tasting warm but more refreshing cold.
Yeah I had that one a while ago and liked it. Unfortunately its rather pricey for regular consumption.
-Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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50freefly
Caldari Cause for Concern Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.07.01 23:53:00 -
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Damn right you apologize. Please re-size it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.07.02 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Edit: I like Corona, but thats mexican.
Yeah, way to throw any credibility you might have had in the trashcan .
Yanks have plenty of fine beer manufacturers, like Anchor Brewery, whose products are readily available over here in Northern Europe.
I read somewhere that Oatmeal stouts are only produced for the american market. Dunno if that's true, but at least they're hard to get a hold of over here, which is a shame.
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Lucian Alucard
Caldari Black Vice Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.02 09:24:00 -
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First off I am an Arizona boy myself and I can't stand heat below 100F.
Now as far as beer goes there's obviously some crap beer from the US but if you have had Harp you know for certain that just because its from Europe doesn't mean it's good. As stated there's a huge micro-brewery culture in the U.S. with the bulk of it on the west coast. San Diego has the Stone Brewing Co.((I would recommend importing specifically their "Arrogant Bastard" for the Englishmen and Irishmen present)), TAPS Fish House and Brewery in Brea, California ((Like 5 minutes away from Angles Stadium)) makes a wide assortment of beers on sight served fresh, every year they do a different rendition of a beer by Thomas Jefferson that has gone up to 14% alcholic volume. In short we make awesome beer too but like you we can't get the good **** from one another, so I say to you yell at the House of Commons and we will go yell at the House of "Representatives" and get this fixed, I want more kick ass beer.
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TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.07.02 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: TimMc
Edit: I like Corona, but thats mexican.
Yeah, way to throw any credibility you might have had in the trashcan .
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Miller900
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
Originally by: Madam Scarlette bout time, now just admit that soccer is worthless and we can officially be friends
As a rugby fan I agree, football is worthless ... but there again, so is yankee football, 'baseball' is just 'rounders' for boys, nascar needs to know that you can steer right as well as just left (like F1 its as boring as hell -- you need to watch MotoGP to see real automotive excitement) and while your beer is cold and tasty, its as weak as a just-born kitten. Agree with all of that and we can be friends
Im English, and I still think "yankee football", as you called it, is better than nearly every sport in the UK! Alltho I do agree that F1 sucks, and MotoGP all the way XD Lorenzo FTW!
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Illiana Rathgrith
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Posted - 2009.07.02 21:47:00 -
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Half the fun of yankee football is what happens before and after the game. Americans Tail Gate and many good things from Tail Gating but so do bad things (( Like Mullets,Rat tails and people trying to bring back the "Members Only" jacket)). But in a country where there is a distinct decrease in sense of national,communal and self identity its good to occasionally be apart of a large group that aside free beer and bomb ass bbq is always good.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.02 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim Edited by: Tzar''rim on 01/07/2009 14:26:13 It's not like the US is the only country where they drink beer at a proper temperature. You Brits drink lew warm sewer water.
You will pay dearly for your vile slander, sir.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.02 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: jason hill Edited by: jason hill on 01/07/2009 00:14:08 tried a pitcher of sam adams once while i was in newyork... nearly spent a week on the toilet because of it
That wasn't the Sam Adams, that was the food in NYC.
Sam Adams is among the best beers made on the PLANET (They win Gold medals in European beer competitions year after year after year for good reason. They make some damn fine beer.)
I've had plenty of British and British style beer, and while I do enjoy a good brown ale, I prefer it on the colder side. Merely cool means that it's room temperature far too soon, Room temperature beer, much like room temperature coffee or tea, tastes BAD.
For newbies to Sam Adams, particularly if you are used to British beer, I would recommend the Boston Ale:
Quote: Samuel Adams« Boston Ale was first brewed to celebrate the opening of our Boston Brewery. Like Samuel Adams Boston Lager«, it was an old family recipe that was rescued by Jim Koch from his father's attic. Samuel Adams« Boston Ale, a Stock Ale, has a complex, caramel malt character balanced with distinct spicy and herbal hop notes. Our proprietary ale yeast imparts a variety of fruit and ester notes in both the nose and flavor which are indicative of the style.
Sam Adams also has a delightful Brown Ale, and delicious Honey Porter and a really nice Cream Stout.
Also try out some of the Seasonal beers if you can get your hands on one. I'm currently drinking a Summer Ale:
Quote: Samuel Adams« Summer Ale is an American wheat ale. This summer seasonal uses malted wheat as well as lemon zest and grains of paradise, a rare pepper from Africa first used as a brewing spice in the 13th Century to create a crisp and spicy flavor and body. The ale fermentation imparts a background tropical fruit note reminiscent of mangos and peaches. All of these come together to create a quenching, clean finishing beer perfect for those warm Summer days.
I have to tell you, it's INCREDIBLE. Hang on, I need another drink of it....
Oh yeah. That's the stuff!
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Altair Alhammajid
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Posted - 2009.07.03 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: TimMc
I read somewhere that Oatmeal stouts are only produced for the american market. Dunno if that's true, but at least they're hard to get a hold of over here, which is a shame.
Yeah, it's even tough here. You gotta know where to look. I only know of a few places and they are smaller craft breweries. We have a brewery in manchester, nh called milly's tavern that has an award winning oatmeal stout. The only company who produces them for distribution is Wolavers and they are a small vermont company. It barely makes it throughout New England. And to the one talking about how beer is deeply routed in English culture, that has definitley transfered over to us in the northeast, or more appropriatly New England. Many of us have English heritage and as a result the same taste and respect for beer. Once you start getting to the midwest, well it sucks. I hate miller, coors, budweiser and other big domestic beers. Not only do the beers suck but the companies have some sketchy practices.
Oh yes and to the person who had Sam Adams and got sick, I apologize. I live 40 minutes out of Boston and I'm sick of it as well. Not the best thing around but I still prefer it over budweiser. Just stick to the craft breweries.
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Iasius
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.03 00:43:00 -
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I once went into a microbrewery in Calafornia and has some ales. Never tasted anything like it since. A full bodied taste but crisp too. Better than any 'real ale' i have had in the UK. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Buxaroo
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.04 09:14:00 -
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How in the hell can anyone drink a warm beer? I tried drinking a warm Mountain Dew on a hot day....I think my mouth blew up.
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jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.04 10:40:00 -
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went to a micro brewery in texas about 2 years back.....and must confess it was amazing..shame we dont have this type of stuff in the uk
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.04 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo How in the hell can anyone drink a warm beer? I tried drinking a warm Mountain Dew on a hot day....I think my mouth blew up.
It's not actually warm as such. Think tap water temperature rather than fridge temperature.
As to why...
Buy some good red wine, like a nice Bordeaux. Pour out 2 glasses. Put one in the freezer for half an hour and leave the other out at room temperature, and then taste both glasses.
One will almost certainly taste a lot better than the other.
Very cold bitter is... well it just tastes flat and dull. It's wrong, somehow.
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