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annoing
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.07.01 15:23:00 -
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Currently using XP pro 32 sp3.
Downloaded the Windows 7 client (both 64bit and 32bit as my mobo and chip can handle either). I ran the compatability client to see what I needed to do to do the install and it came out with a recommendation to update the GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller - JMicron Technology Corp. As far as I can tell, this is a raid/ide controller. I've checked with both Gigabyte and with JMicron and they dont do an update for Windows 7 or Vista for this driver. The chipset driver disc is supposed to be able to read whether you use XP or Vista and install the drivers accordingly and/or be fully compatable if there is only 1 set for both. However, I cant find anything of the type on the disc and I know if I install windows 7 I will probably lose my optical drive due to no driver support for the GBB36X in windows 7.
So my question is: anyone have this issue and how did you resolve it?
All advice is gratefully recieved.
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FOl2TY8
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:30:00 -
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This is what I would do: First I would just install W7 and see if it works on it's own. You will probably not be able to use the RAID function of the controller but since you are only hooking an optical drive up to it, who cares. W7 should have the IDE drivers already in place because from the 2 mins of research I did it looks like XP has them.
If that doesn't work try this driver here and see if it works. It's listed as Vista compatible so it should work for W7.
If it doesn't I would update the BIOS to the most current version and repeat the above.
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annoing
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
If that doesn't work try this driver here and see if it works.
Thats the driver I already have installed but thanks for the help anyway.
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FOl2TY8
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.01 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
Thats the driver I already have installed but thanks for the help anyway.
So you have already installed W7? Are you getting a BSOD? ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
annoing
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.07.01 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
So you have already installed W7? Are you getting a BSOD?
My apologies for not being clear enough.
That driver you linked to is already part of my chipset drivers under XP. It a compatable driver for both XP and Vista. However, for whatever reason, its not compatable under Windows 7. Ive managed to find a pre-install X36 driver thats Windows 7/XP/Vista compatable but I dont have a floppy drive to use it with .
My search continues..........
But thanks again for your help
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.07.01 18:12:00 -
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I would make an educated guess, that Windows 7 would likely support the controller as standard, but it would be just a guess. Any Vista x64 driver will work with Windows 7 but if you can't find one it could get more complicated.
If you are using less than 3GB of RAM, I would probably stick with the x86 version of the OS. You would still benefit from the handful of 64-bit apps if running x64 but I don't think that alone would justify using x64 over x86. Best thing I can suggest, use Image X, Acronis TrueImage, Ghost or something similar to completely backup your existing C: drive OR if you have a second hard drive, swap it with the old one. Either way, you will have a working backup of your old OS and can install Win7 on a clean partition and see how you get on. If it doesn't work well enough with your hardware, it should be straightforward enough to revert to your XP SP3 install.
Do you know what build you downloaded? Was it RC1 (7100)? -------------
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 3P1C F41L
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Posted - 2009.07.01 18:12:00 -
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It will probably work anyway, no matter what the compatibility test says. Install W7 on a separate partition and see. If it doesn't work, just wipe the partition and go back to XP. ____________________
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FOl2TY8
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.07.01 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
Originally by: FOl2TY8
So you have already installed W7? Are you getting a BSOD?
My apologies for not being clear enough.
That driver you linked to is already part of my chipset drivers under XP. It a compatable driver for both XP and Vista. However, for whatever reason, its not compatable under Windows 7. Ive managed to find a pre-install X36 driver thats Windows 7/XP/Vista compatable but I dont have a floppy drive to use it with .
My search continues..........
But thanks again for your help
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WheatGrass
Gallente Silent but Friendly
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Posted - 2009.07.02 03:11:00 -
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My suggestions are as follows:
1.) If you don't have any drives attached to the controller then don't bother with a driver. Disable it within the BIOS and / or the Windows device manager.
2.) Try using Vista drivers under Windows 7. The only catch is that you may have to use the Windows 7 F8 boot option to disable driver authentication.
I haven't been using Windows 7 much at all lately due to... 1) Peculiarities with Eve Online (i.e. invisible drones) and ATI video driver (i.e. Catalyst 9.6), 2) It seems that I'm getting better hard drive performance under Windows XP x64 than under Win 7 RC1; 3) Network connectivity happens immediately with XP while, under Win 7, I have to jump through the network troubleshooting tool before being able to connect.
Have fun on the bleeding edge.
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Knopje
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Posted - 2009.07.02 04:04:00 -
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There is a reason why Win 7 RC1 is called RC1, it's still a beta version.
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WheatGrass
Gallente Silent but Friendly
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Posted - 2009.07.02 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: WheatGrass on 02/07/2009 06:05:04
Originally by: Knopje There is a reason why Win 7 RC1 is called RC1, it's still a beta version.
annoing, Knopje might, sort of, have a point. If you are using Windows 7 Beta rather than Windows 7 Release Candidate 1 (i.e. RC1), consider trying Windows 7 Release Candidate 1. As you likely already know, a release candidate is closer to a finished product than an alpha or beta.
Edit... It would not surprise me if a moderator were to relocate this entire thread to Eve Technology and Research Center | Issues, Workarounds, & Localization.
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Knopje
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Posted - 2009.07.02 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: WheatGrass Edited by: WheatGrass on 02/07/2009 06:05:04
Originally by: Knopje There is a reason why Win 7 RC1 is called RC1, it's still a beta version.
annoing, Knopje might, sort of, have a point. If you are using Windows 7 Beta rather than Windows 7 Release Candidate 1 (i.e. RC1), consider trying Windows 7 Release Candidate 1. As you likely already know, a release candidate is closer to a finished product than an alpha or beta.
Edit... It would not surprise me if a moderator were to relocate this entire thread to Eve Technology and Research Center | Issues, Workarounds, & Localization.
Actually, if you read what I've written, I am saying release clients are also beta's. They're very advanced and near ready for release but they're not the full version yet. Things will change between releases and things are still being tested. To test the real quality of Win 7 we will have to wait until the first or even second major update to the OS, like XP and Vista.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.07.02 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Knopje Actually, if you read what I've written, I am saying release clients are also betas.
Actually they're not. Betas are betas, releases that have finished in-house (alpha) testing and now get user tested. Closed beta means a select group of users, open/public beta means a wider base. Release candidates are release candidates (eg. builds that are proposed for release). They are full version only pending any serious bug fixes, there are no features lacking, all testing has been done quite thoroughly, etc. More information here.
If you mean to simply say "It isn't the final version" but got embroiled in semantics, then while you'd be technically right (or potentially wrong depending if that RC becomes final build), I can personally say that Win 7 RC1 is polished and rock solid. It might improve with a service pack in 2 years time, but even as a release candidate, it's a fantastic OS. Although my 3DMark06 score is lower than XP, the handful of DX9 games I've played play as smooth as silk. It's more than good enough as RC1 to use as a main OS already, so if you're right and a future service pack improves it further then we'll be in for a treat. -------------
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