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Steel Wraith
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Posted - 2009.07.02 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Wraith on 02/07/2009 10:27:57 To summarize: I've started playing eve after a 1.5 year hiatus. Previously I only played for a few months and even then I mostly just logged on to update skills. This time around I started with a fresh trial account and sold my old character as I, to be honest, wouldn't know what the hell to do with all those skills I trained.
My "problem:" My character sold for 2.9b isk and now, instead of having skills I don't know how to make use of, I have TONS (in my humble noob opinion) of isk that I don't know how to properly make use of.
After buying plex to cover the transfer fee costs and getting some impulse spending out of the way, I'm still left with a substantial amount of isk. Having a lot of isk isn't a bad thing but I feel I haven't really earned it properly and would like to put it somewhere out of reach but safe before I start thinking 10mil isk isn't worth being careful with.
This obviously leads me to MD. I've been reading through this section of the forums (titan bpc schemes, neat) but, quite frankly, even with all the guides and Cosmoray's very helpful spreadsheet it's still a little overwhelming.
My rough plan is to leave a little bit of isk on hand to play around with the market but invest the rest in a respected and open bond/IPO. I ask the MD community for any advice or other input they might have because MD is good people.
Thanks for reading!
Edit: Removed something that was irrelevant to post.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.02 10:27:00 -
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you should look around this place for your local stock pusher. im sure there are plenty of hedges around here.
otherwise, invest in blue chip / lowest risk ventures/offerings
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Steel Wraith
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Posted - 2009.07.02 10:42:00 -
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How available are the low risk ventures? I see a lot of IPOs that seem to have either quickly filled up or can't be labeled low risk.
I suppose my best bet is probably to keep a close eye on MD for new offerings that sound good and beat other players to it?
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.02 10:49:00 -
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depends on who you ask.
for instance, there are plenty of room in bobby's titan 4 you ipo. i would label that low risk... but you wont see a return for the first 4 mths etc. all depends on pov....
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Valnurana
Preta Light Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.02 14:33:00 -
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Keep an eye on MD as much as you can at some point you will see an IPO / bond offer you like and isn't sold out yet.
You could also park everything at your favourite bank for a while until you find what you're looking for. A little bit of ISK is better than none and it will be somewhat out of reach.
Personally, if you haven't done so already and operate somewhere safe, I'd pimp myself with a nice +5 set to train up quickly to new ships to spend the ISK on
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Nuzzy Futs
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.07.02 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Wraith How available are the low risk ventures? I see a lot of IPOs that seem to have either quickly filled up or can't be labeled low risk.
I suppose my best bet is probably to keep a close eye on MD for new offerings that sound good and beat other players to it?
There really is no such thing as low risk in a world of disposable anonymous alts and mains. use a very critical eye when evaluating offers, Invest in people with a plan not gimmicks. Dont be in a hurry to invest. Awww Nuts. |
Mme Pinkerton
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.02 18:32:00 -
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Quote: " It was rumored that one had to observe a certain unwritten rule when dealing with Midas Mulligan: if an applicant for a loan ever mentioned his personal need or any personal feeling whatever, the interview ended and he was never given another chance to speak to Mr. Mulligan "
think about it.
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lacal
Minmatar Vir Honns Lackeys
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Posted - 2009.07.02 18:49:00 -
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There's one person you can trust implicitly, and that's yourself.
Given recent Bank type events, with even the most respected/trusted players succumbing to temptation, I would off load the bulk of your isk to an alt on your account.
Moneys close to hand then and zero risk - plus removes a small amount of temptation of your main impulse buying.
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io0olilo0oi
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Posted - 2009.07.02 21:20:00 -
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Give to money to one of your untrained alt chars, then biomass that toon. Safer then putting it in a bank or an IPO
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Drab Cane
Mining Emporium inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.03 02:09:00 -
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A couple of questions you can ask yourself:
1) How soon might I need this money? Will I need it back within 72 hours notice, or I can I spare it for six months?
2) How important is it that I don't lose this money? Understand that investing through MD is gambling, but without really knowing the odds. There are safer bets, and there are not-so-safe bets. Either way, you risk losing all the funds you invest.
lacal has a point, in that the best investment is yourself. Keep plenty of funds available to expand your horizons, and only consider investing funds that you are willing to lose. -----------------------------------------------
- Who Dares, Wins
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Smulyan
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Posted - 2009.07.03 06:46:00 -
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Safest would be buying a battle ship/cruser BPO and put it in for 30 days worth of copying /ME. with high sec queue's that will tie it up for 2-4 months. The return is likely not as good as these risker options but it is relatively safe. This Post Needs No Signature |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.03 09:27:00 -
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Just play EvE: don't invest what you can't afford to lose. - Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Icy Milky
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Posted - 2009.07.03 10:13:00 -
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I personaly would not invest it. It is not *that much* money to see any big profit. I would keep it and rather start own bussines that can produce much better profit than usuall IPO/bond (with less unknown risk).
You can also spend it for good ratting faction fit and have better profit (isk/hour)... if you are more carebear type (no offence).
In other words, with so little money, it is better to invest it to yourself than lock them to some long term investment... again IMO.
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2009.07.03 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
otherwise, invest in blue chip / lowest risk ventures/offerings
sweet. Can all the people willing to sell their low-risk/blue chip stocks please post here so i can buy em.
/tumbleweeds
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Steel Wraith
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Posted - 2009.07.05 03:09:00 -
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Thanks for all the advice so far. I'm not really in a hurry to invest for a little while so I figure I'll keep an eye on that titan copying IPO and also look for other opportunities. If things go south on my and I end up losing the isk I won't /emoragequit as it's all extra isk someone as far into the game as me really wouldn't normally have anyway. That said, my gut doesn't trust banks; seems like smaller IPOs with fewer people at the helm have more of a security through obscurity thing that might make them more reliable in the long run.
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NupetietVer
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.07.05 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: NupetietVer on 05/07/2009 06:53:21 Interested in another Rat Project sponsor, contact me if interested.
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Chantilly Layce
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Posted - 2009.07.05 10:08:00 -
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Steel:
Do yourself a big favour and keep the ISK in your wallet. As your skills progress, buy yourself the ships and quality mods that improve your game and fun. Buy PLEX's and effectively play for free.
If you absolutely feel the need to invest, then don't waste more than 10% of your total assets on any venture or "basket" of ventures. Treat it like a ship...don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Invest in yourself, meaning skills and solidly fitted ships, and you won't need to risk your ISK with another entity or player in this game.
Have fun ! |
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