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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
542
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:05:00 -
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As an FC, I can tell you that local is an invaluable intel tool. Let's look at the reasons why, as an FC, I should love local.
- Scouting is easy - A 'scout' becomes some dude who is in an interceptor/frigate and may or may not carry tackle. All they have to do is tell me how many people are in local, and how many are on the gate (and in what).
- Running is easy - Local spike? Order the fleet to scatter and start moving between safes. But surely they can bait us with a drake or a loki or something right? Well, sure. But we're still going to warp away if we see a local spike and leave the one or two people that get tackled to die.
- Gate camping is easy - Scout on the other side of a hi sec gate, blob on the lo sec side. You'll get lots of nice kills. Local militia or other pvp group coming to get you? See 'running is easy'.
- Structure bashing is easy - While we're shooting a POS/POCO all we need to do is watch for a local spike or a cyno. Last weekend we took down two large caldari towers and two POCOs WHILE SEMI AFK. Literally, have the guy watching local in the fleet command role so he can warp the entire fleet to a safe at the first sign of trouble.
This, quite frankly, is unacceptable. EVE is not easy. Easy things must die and be replaced with colder harsher things.
Remove local. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
174
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:07:00 -
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Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Endeavour Starfleet
819
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:09:00 -
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Um no. Eve will survive better with local than without it.
Didn't bother reading your topic after the silly topic name. You lost a big chance in EVE at a faction or capital kill so move to wormholes if the big bad local is too much for you. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
843
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:09:00 -
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Hey look another remove local thread ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3484
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:10:00 -
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on ONE condition - allow us to use EVE voice in local.
/c
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Ohanka
The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team
44
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:10:00 -
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Yes. Removing local is vital to eve's long term survival. That is why its been going for 9 years with local without many issues. Clear sign this feature is killing the game. |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
770
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:10:00 -
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shitposting in a shitposting thread I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
542
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:10:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Um no. Eve will survive better with local than without it.
Didn't bother reading your topic after the silly topic name. You lost a big chance in EVE at a faction or capital kill so move to wormholes if the big bad local is too much for you.
I too enjoy posting comments on things I haven't even read yet.
You have a promising future with those moms who try to get books banned from school libraries. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
174
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:13:00 -
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You're dealing with the master of obfuscation here. This isn't the post you were looking for. Move along. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Easthir Ravin
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:13:00 -
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Greetings
You do realize that if local went away, which I am not necessarily against, 100% of the forum posts afterwards would be from hulk miners and carebears screaming bloody murder to bring back local. Personally I say let them have it as I am not sure I can handle any more crying on the forums.
vr East IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!" |
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killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
81
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:14:00 -
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supported huh? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
542
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:15:00 -
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Easthir Ravin wrote:Greetings
You do realize that if local went away, which I am not necessarily against, 100% of the forum posts afterwards would be from hulk miners and carebears screaming bloody murder to bring back local. Personally I say let them have it as I am not sure I can handle any more crying on the forums.
vr East
Think of how many people you could tell to HTFU then Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Anazzar
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:17:00 -
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Wormholes hint of an indication of what Devs wanted local to be but I honestly doubt 0.0 dwellers would tolerate an increase in difficulty when everyone has relied on local & intel channels for years.
I mean seriously, look at complaints about "AFK" cloakers its just a completely different way of thinking & playstyle than wormholes but maybe thats a good thing, I mean we dont want all areas of eve to be the same right? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
542
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:18:00 -
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Anazzar wrote:Wormholes hint of an indication of what Devs wanted local to be but I honestly doubt 0.0 dwellers would tolerate in increase in difficulty when everyone has relied on local & intel channels for years.
I mean seriously, look at complains about "AFK" cloakers its just a completely different way of thinking & playstyle than wormholes but maybe thats a good thing, I mean we dont want all areas of eve to be the same right?
I frequently tell alliance mates that if they're AFK they can't hurt you. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
161
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:25:00 -
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Keep local, because clicking dscan a lots and lots of times every few seconds isn't good for mental health. Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:27:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Keep local, because clicking dscan a lots and lots of times every few seconds isn't good for mental health.
You don't have to keep hitting DScan. |
Ohanka
The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team
44
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:28:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Anazzar wrote:Wormholes hint of an indication of what Devs wanted local to be but I honestly doubt 0.0 dwellers would tolerate in increase in difficulty when everyone has relied on local & intel channels for years.
I mean seriously, look at complains about "AFK" cloakers its just a completely different way of thinking & playstyle than wormholes but maybe thats a good thing, I mean we dont want all areas of eve to be the same right? I frequently tell alliance mates that if they're AFK they can't hurt you.
its not true though |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
843
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:28:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Keep local, because clicking dscan a lots and lots of times every few seconds isn't good for mental health. EVE is hard (on your finger). Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Anazzar
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:31:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Keep local, because clicking dscan a lots and lots of times every few seconds isn't good for mental health.
shut up! whos there? I know your there just waiting for me to stop clicking!.
But I wont, ill never stop clicking because I know your there...cloaked...waiting...watching
whos there? |
bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:34:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Keep local, because clicking dscan a lots and lots of times every few seconds isn't good for mental health.
I can agree with this, its nice to see blobs coming in as a early warning. Keep local and move to wormhole if you dont like it. |
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bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:35:00 -
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Anazzar wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Keep local, because clicking dscan a lots and lots of times every few seconds isn't good for mental health. shut up! whos there? I know your there just waiting for me to stop clicking!. But I wont, ill never stop clicking because I know your there...cloaked...waiting...watching whos there?
Knock knock |
Rath Kelbore
Spaceship Hooligan Productions
196
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:37:00 -
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I like the idea of no local in at least non high security space. However, since masternerdguy is posting about it, we should probably keep local. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
249
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:40:00 -
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As a professional internet spaceship forum poster I can tell you that you bad posting is detrimental to the ongoing success of EVE. I will demonstrate my reasons for this with some professional looking bullet points.
- You're awful.
- You post awful threads.
- I enjoy the music of The O'Jays.
- Superfluous bullet point.
This, quite frankly, is unacceptable.
Remove masternerdguy. Heh. |
bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:44:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:As a professional internet spaceship forum poster I can tell you that you bad posting is detrimental to the ongoing success of EVE. I will demonstrate my reasons for this with some professional looking bullet points.
- You're awful.
- You post awful threads.
- I enjoy the music of The O'Jays.
- Superfluous bullet point.
This, quite frankly, is unacceptable. Remove masternerdguy.
Oh look another goon, since you didnt offer the OP forum protection for 250 million isk, you failed your corp and should be punished accordindly. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
252
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:50:00 -
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250m is pocket change I'm rolling in Tech baby.
Seriously, we've recently constructed a Scrooge McDuck style vault filled with Tech in VFK. Most Goons now spend the majority of their time doing a lazy backstroke around the vault while wearing top-hats and blue and white striped full body swimming costumes. Heh. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
687
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:51:00 -
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master nerd guy just likes to post things that he know will get lots of replied.
That said, he's right, eve needs to get rid of local. even if it's only in -0.5 to -1.0 space. Wormhole PvP have proofs that local isn't needed and infact more interest because of it.
2nd of all, blacks ops battleships would finally have a role. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
687
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:53:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote:I like the idea of no local in at least non high security space. However, since masternerdguy is posting about it, we should probably keep local.
don't fall his trap! Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
845
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:55:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:250m is pocket change I'm rolling in Tech baby.
Seriously, we've recently constructed a Scrooge McDuck style vault filled with Tech in VFK. Most Goons now spend the majority of their time doing a lazy backstroke around the vault while wearing top-hats and blue and white striped full body swimming costumes. What?
Aww man, I thought tech was a metal or something. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:59:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:
This, quite frankly, is unacceptable. EVE is not easy. Easy things must die and be replaced with colder harsher things.
Remove local.
I completely agree. While we're at it, cloning is a crutch. If you die in space, you're instantly resurrected in a station, ready to fight again?
This, quite frankly, is unacceptable. EVE is not easy. Easy things must die and be replaced with colder harsher things.
Remove clones. Make EVE hardcore.
~10,058~ |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
254
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:01:00 -
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We're so obscenely rich we don't even have to abide by the fundamental laws of physics. It's like how when you get rich enough to own a Ferrari you can basically ignore parking restrictions because heh. Heh. |
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