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Black Spy
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:47:00 -
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So the question I pose is quite simple, does it still happen? I've seen video's of around 60 Domi's releasing their drones on a freighter whilst Concord deals with the ships. Again its a case of if you're carrying something that makes the loss of 60+ BS's worth it.
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:50:00 -
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It still happens and it doesn't take nearly as many ships as you'd think, certainly not 60.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Black Spy Opinions?
How can their opinions on a fact based question?
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
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Pink Froggy
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Posted - 2009.07.13 02:16:00 -
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now, i dont know about freighters, but they try to kill just about everyhting else.
i was carrying a measly 330m in a Occator a few weeks ago, and i had 4 BS try to kill me. 3 ravens, and an armageddon... some one out there used 5 guarde drones as well... it was THE most serious attack i'd every been under in empire (.5)... and i still made it out with 97% hull remaining.
now, what it takes to kill a freighter, i dont know... but it's probably a lot, if 4 of those couldnt put down a transport.
CCP HAD worked on gankings, and offered a transport on the test server as 'proof' no one could gank one in empire.. i say, they failed. also dont know if a domi is the best way to do it... EM based guns, like a geddon, would be best against the charon, the most popular freighter.
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temponita
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Posted - 2009.07.13 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Black Spy So the question I pose is quite simple, does it still happen? I've seen video's of around 60 Domi's releasing their drones on a freighter whilst Concord deals with the ships. Again its a case of if you're carrying something that makes the loss of 60+ BS's worth it.
Opinions?
I followed an Ark hauling over 100billion worth of goods to Jita. It had no escort and many others knew about it too. Suiciders are made-up of the same stuff those(so called) Ninja Salvagers are made up of. A whole-lot-a hot air and fish tales!
Oh, and popping AFK miners(lets not forget about that!)
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pink Froggy now, i dont know about freighters, but they try to kill just about everyhting else.
i was carrying a measly 330m in a Occator a few weeks ago, and i had 4 BS try to kill me. 3 ravens, and an armageddon... some one out there used 5 guarde drones as well... it was THE most serious attack i'd every been under in empire (.5)... and i still made it out with 97% hull remaining.
now, what it takes to kill a freighter, i dont know... but it's probably a lot, if 4 of those couldnt put down a transport.
CCP HAD worked on gankings, and offered a transport on the test server as 'proof' no one could gank one in empire.. i say, they failed. also dont know if a domi is the best way to do it... EM based guns, like a geddon, would be best against the charon, the most popular freighter.
wow, well those 4 BS pilots fail miserably, then. In a brutix alone, I've taken a shield extended DST down to about 40% shields... how 4 BS can't kill it is beyond me. Well, Guards are a bad choice for one... they have terrible tracking. They'd have had more luck if they'd come in at point blank with ogres and hammerheads and used ravens with target painters - that WOULD have killed you.
To kill a freighter, it takes roughly 10-20 ravens depending on setup and sec status of the system.
6x Siege Launcher II with rage torps, some target painters (meh) and the lows are entirely BCS II. 2x ogre, 2x hammerhead, 1x hobgoblin.
That'll take down a freighter pretty sharpish - Thermal damage is the best to use as the armor and shields are pretty weak against it (you wont have time to reload from EM to explosive)... most of a freighter's HP is in structure, though, which has no resistances. --
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: temponita
Originally by: Black Spy So the question I pose is quite simple, does it still happen? I've seen video's of around 60 Domi's releasing their drones on a freighter whilst Concord deals with the ships. Again its a case of if you're carrying something that makes the loss of 60+ BS's worth it.
Opinions?
I followed an Ark hauling over 100billion worth of goods to Jita. It had no escort and many others knew about it too. Suiciders are made-up of the same stuff those(so called) Ninja Salvagers are made up of. A whole-lot-a hot air and fish tales!
Oh, and popping AFK miners(lets not forget about that!)
Are you this dumb or are you pretending?
Freighter ganks in hisec have happened quite a few times, itĘs not rare by any means itĘs just a bit of a pain to setup and people rarely bother.
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Amateratsu
Caldari The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2009.07.13 08:21:00 -
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Suiciding a Freighter is a lot harder now than it used to be a year or so ago...
The attackers will usually only get 1 shot/volley each before concord locks them down with crippling ECM (including their drones) so they will need a lot of dps to kill a Freighter in 1 hit.
It can still be done by a determined gang if the potential reward is greater than the loss.
You can reduce your risk to attack by not filling your Freighter up with billions worth of stuff, don't fly afk on autopilot, use a scout ect.
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Icy Milky
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Posted - 2009.07.13 08:34:00 -
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approx. 20 dedicated Ravens and you can say "bye bye" to your precious Frieghter...
What I would like to ask is... What kind of escort will be enough for defence of such freighter? Lets say few Battlecruisers with RR modules or such?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.07.13 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Icy Milky approx. 20 dedicated Ravens and you can say "bye bye" to your precious Frieghter...
What I would like to ask is... What kind of escort will be enough for defence of such freighter? Lets say few Battlecruisers with RR modules or such?
A Rapier or Huginn with sensor boosters and webs. Uncloaks first, then webs freighter as it aligns, freighter warps off almost instantly, recon follows into warp and will be in the next system even before the freighter reaches the gate out. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2009.07.13 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Icy Milky approx. 20 dedicated Ravens and you can say "bye bye" to your precious Frieghter...
I believe it when I see it.
(starts building some more ravens)
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2009.07.13 09:09:00 -
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I've had 3 attempted ganks on my freighter in the last two years, always by gangs of 20+ BS. Every time I would end up in hull by the time CONCORD dealt with them.
Yes, it still happens, but if you fly sharp you'll survive gangs expecting freighter default defenses. One damnation with gang mods running is sufficient to keep you alive, or getting a nice squeeze by a Hug to fire you to the next gate.
If you don't think it happens just hang out in the major pipelines... if you come across a freakish blob of CONCORD you'll know where one died. Or general freight cans floating in space.
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.07.13 09:48:00 -
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yes freighter ganks still happen, they are not as hard as you would think ether. i did one yesterday (last kill on my char i think on my corp/ali killboard not sure if your alowed to post kb links in here so i wont). between 6-7 bill in stuff taken.
flew past the gate where it happend a few hrs later only to be informed a second one had gone down in the same spot and was infromed another 7 bil or so.
As for defending yourself well now im not going to tell you that now am I EX Nano *** since 2006 |
hedfunk
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.13 09:48:00 -
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Suiciding freighters is not what it's cracked up to be. I was doing it about a year ago, the amount of freighters hauling more than 2bill worth of stuff is tiny. I remember MANY hours sitting around waiting for target.
Killing hauler's is way more profitable. You can do it solo, or in a pair to keep urself from boredom, so profit is higher. Freighters hauling 20bill+ does happen, but not as often as you would think. :(
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:41:00 -
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Moved to " Warfare & Tactics ".
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temponita
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Posted - 2009.07.13 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: temponita on 13/07/2009 12:29:19
Originally by: Intigo Are you this dumb or are you pretending?
Freighter ganks in hisec have happened quite a few times, itĘs not rare by any means itĘs just a bit of a pain to setup and people rarely bother.
lol Yea... sure... uhuh... any other fantasies you'd like to add while were piling it on? Besides... lets just pretend it matters that were dealing with the now and not those old tales of the past(oooh aaaah).
And it was how big again?
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zombeee
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.07.13 16:00:00 -
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You're totally right, those freight containers floating in space around the gates are put there by ccp, it's just fantasy.
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