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Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.07.14 09:37:00 - [31] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 14/07/2009 09:37:21 Originally by: Bazuka Originally by: Sheriff Jones You start paying my subs, i do what YOU want with my time. Deal! I can use someone to loot/salvage for me while I`m doing my carebaring and I can afford to spend ~350mil ISK a month for it npnp :). Send me PM for details. Ah, but i don't do it when you want I just spend the time online doing stuff you might want My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
DrKuLa	Posted - 2009.07.14 09:39:00 - [32] Edited by: DrKuLa on 14/07/2009 09:39:34 Originally by: Reandom Traas Since so much time is spent carebear bashing, it got me to wondering how people think the game would be improved if all the carebears went away. The egocentrics uber PVPers could afford to lose their last ships because would mean get down to basics of roid mining (or PVE) on their chairs for hours
Kezzle	Posted - 2009.07.14 10:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Vagilicious Well if the 'carebears' went away who would build all the shiny new toys for the l33t uber PVPers to shoot each other with? Pretty soon everyone would be flying around in Rookie ships... It isn't the building that would cease if everywhere were lo/nulsec. It's the mining. Where does all that lovely Tritanium come from? Carebears in hisec. Mining isn't a thing you can do with an hour a day online, like Industry is. Even if all the carebears stayed, you'd halve the number of actual miners cos they'd all need guards, so the amount of Veldspar hoovered up would halve. But in reality, people who aren't interested in non-consensual PvP (but tolerate the low chances of it happening in hisec because they know they can have some control over it at least) would quit, leaving CCP with 1/3 the revenue base, and the industry of New Eden crippled by a scarcity of basic minerals.
Chris Liath Gallente Nex Exercitus Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.07.14 11:23:00 - [34] Originally by: Kezzle Where does all that lovely Tritanium come from? Chribba. "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Imperial Servants	Posted - 2009.07.14 11:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Mavrk Originally by: Vagilicious Well if the 'carebears' went away who would build all the shiny new toys for the l33t uber PVPers to shoot each other with? the l33t uber PVPers' industry alts. purdy much! Originally by: Immogen Valdice gasp So even the l33t uber PVPer's are 'carebears' ...... Industrial skills do not a carebear make. Nice to see the forum havn't changed a bit in the year I've been gone On topic, if you do industry on your main, I would not call it carebearing, but if you use an alt, it's carebearing for sure. I'm a carebear because I like it that way. I do my thing where ever i might be (which is usually high sec ).
Reandom Traas	Posted - 2009.07.14 21:21:00 - [36] Originally by: Mish'Kala Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Reandom Traas Since so much time is spent carebear bashing, it got me to wondering how people think the game would be improved if all the carebears went away. Define carebear. Definition PLEASE do not post like that again! I was sitting in a restaurant eating lunch when I read that. Food flew out of my mouth and everyone stared as I choked/laughed. To me: Carebear=avoids PvP at all costs. Plays game as if it is single player/offline. (Trading/manufacturing characters are engaging in economic PvP)
Flightcrow	Posted - 2009.07.15 01:42:00 - [37] Truly open PvP with asset destruction is a failed business model. It was tried in Shadowbane, and failed to hold subscriptions as it seems that when most people, even selfstyled PvP'rs lose months of ingame assets, they quit.
Mire Stoude The Undesirables	Posted - 2009.07.15 03:29:00 - [38] Edited by: Mire Stoude on 15/07/2009 03:33:00 Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Reandom Traas Since so much time is spent carebear bashing, it got me to wondering how people think the game would be improved if all the carebears went away. Define carebear. Thats pretty easy. In the most general sense 'carebear' means someone who doesn't want to engage in PvP. Intended as an insult, it is used when someone angers of frustrates a person looking for kills. It is used most when one or both of the parties refuse to engage the other.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.15 08:50:00 - [39] Originally by: Reandom Traas Originally by: Mish'Kala Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Reandom Traas Since so much time is spent carebear bashing, it got me to wondering how people think the game would be improved if all the carebears went away. Define carebear. Definition PLEASE do not post like that again! I was sitting in a restaurant eating lunch when I read that. Food flew out of my mouth and everyone stared as I choked/laughed. To me: Carebear=avoids PvP at all costs. Plays game as if it is single player/offline. (Trading/manufacturing characters are engaging in economic PvP) Given that definition, EvE would do just fine without them for a day, or any number of days.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.07.15 09:03:00 - [40] As soon as there are no more carebears around the gankbears will leave because those hapless industrial players are suddenly fighting back and pwning their asses. -------- Ideas for: Mining

silentalleycat	Posted - 2009.07.15 09:16:00 - [41] A day without carebears will mean alot of you who claim to be PVP ers will have along boring day, with nothing todo. let me make my point .. I am talking about the people who think can flipping in the hope the carebear tries to take his can back ,or the people who think smartbombing miningbarges and exhumers is PVP ,this is just lame it is not even PVP , they just too afraid to lose their precious new and expensive ship Second point . I would not be far of when i say that between 2/3 and 3/4 of all mining and industry is being done by carebears, you probably will not notice after one day or even a week but after that the economy will come to a standstill, prices of ships , ammo,modules and minerals will skyrocket. third point all those players who specialize in ninja salvaging and suicide ganking haulers , they will be unemployed. Are you going to pay for their loss of income ? So be glad there are carebears who else are you going to make his or her EVElife miserable???
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.15 09:19:00 - [42] Originally by: silentalleycat A day without carebears will mean alot of you who claim to be PVP ers will have along boring day, with nothing todo. let me make my point .. I am talking about the people who think can flipping in the hope the carebear tries to take his can back ,or the people who think smartbombing miningbarges and exhumers is PVP ,this is just lame it is not even PVP , they just too afraid to lose their precious new and expensive ship Second point . I would not be far of when i say that between 2/3 and 3/4 of all mining and industry is being done by carebears, you probably will not notice after one day or even a week but after that the economy will come to a standstill, prices of ships , ammo,modules and minerals will skyrocket. third point all those players who specialize in ninja salvaging and suicide ganking haulers , they will be unemployed. Are you going to pay for their loss of income ? So be glad there are carebears who else are you going to make his or her EVElife miserable??? Are you under the impression that PvPers are unable to make ships and modules?
Amerilia	Posted - 2009.07.15 10:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: silentalleycat A day without carebears will mean alot of you who claim to be PVP ers will have along boring day, with nothing todo. let me make my point .. I am talking about the people who think can flipping in the hope the carebear tries to take his can back ,or the people who think smartbombing miningbarges and exhumers is PVP ,this is just lame it is not even PVP , they just too afraid to lose their precious new and expensive ship Second point . I would not be far of when i say that between 2/3 and 3/4 of all mining and industry is being done by carebears, you probably will not notice after one day or even a week but after that the economy will come to a standstill, prices of ships , ammo,modules and minerals will skyrocket. third point all those players who specialize in ninja salvaging and suicide ganking haulers , they will be unemployed. Are you going to pay for their loss of income ? So be glad there are carebears who else are you going to make his or her EVElife miserable??? Are you under the impression that PvPers are unable to make ships and modules? Not enough for everyone, so market would break, earlier or later
Polly Prissypantz Dingleberry Appreciation Society	Posted - 2009.07.15 12:07:00 - [44] I shed a carebear tear every time an angsty PvPer has a cry about people that don't play the game their way. No, really. And I'm all out of tissues, too.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.15 12:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Amerilia Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: silentalleycat A day without carebears will mean alot of you who claim to be PVP ers will have along boring day, with nothing todo. let me make my point .. I am talking about the people who think can flipping in the hope the carebear tries to take his can back ,or the people who think smartbombing miningbarges and exhumers is PVP ,this is just lame it is not even PVP , they just too afraid to lose their precious new and expensive ship Second point . I would not be far of when i say that between 2/3 and 3/4 of all mining and industry is being done by carebears, you probably will not notice after one day or even a week but after that the economy will come to a standstill, prices of ships , ammo,modules and minerals will skyrocket. third point all those players who specialize in ninja salvaging and suicide ganking haulers , they will be unemployed. Are you going to pay for their loss of income ? So be glad there are carebears who else are you going to make his or her EVElife miserable??? Are you under the impression that PvPers are unable to make ships and modules? Not enough for everyone, so market would break, earlier or later Evidence plx
silentalleycat	Posted - 2009.07.15 12:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Amerilia Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: silentalleycat A day without carebears will mean alot of you who claim to be PVP ers will have along boring day, with nothing todo. let me make my point .. I am talking about the people who think can flipping in the hope the carebear tries to take his can back ,or the people who think smartbombing miningbarges and exhumers is PVP ,this is just lame it is not even PVP , they just too afraid to lose their precious new and expensive ship Second point . I would not be far of when i say that between 2/3 and 3/4 of all mining and industry is being done by carebears, you probably will not notice after one day or even a week but after that the economy will come to a standstill, prices of ships , ammo,modules and minerals will skyrocket. third point all those players who specialize in ninja salvaging and suicide ganking haulers , they will be unemployed. Are you going to pay for their loss of income ? So be glad there are carebears who else are you going to make his or her EVElife miserable??? Are you under the impression that PvPers are unable to make ships and modules? Not enough for everyone, so market would break, earlier or later Evidence plx No evidence needed. This is pure economics, if demand is high and production is low prices go up and vice versa.remeber last year when the price of oil skyrocketed ?? same principle
Emily Envy	Posted - 2009.07.15 12:40:00 - [47] I don't think anyone can really say what would happen. But my guess would be that 1. Prices for certain ships and modules would increase. 2. Prices for LP store items would go up even more. 3. Highsec would be pretty deserted. 4. Incredibly whining from those people who don't do "real" pvp but rather wardec/grief carebears would ensue. 5. I would actually enjoy all this. Mostly because i would be filthy rich. Like, even more. I still don't get all the anger. Let the carebears play their boring solo player mission running highsec eve and everyone else just enjoy the game the way they like it. Where's the problem?
silentalleycat	Posted - 2009.07.15 12:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Emily Envy I don't think anyone can really say what would happen. But my guess would be that 1. Prices for certain ships and modules would increase. 2. Prices for LP store items would go up even more. 3. Highsec would be pretty deserted. 4. Incredibly whining from those people who don't do "real" pvp but rather wardec/grief carebears would ensue. 5. I would actually enjoy all this. Mostly because i would be filthy rich. Like, even more. I still don't get all the anger. Let the carebears play their boring solo player mission running highsec eve and everyone else just enjoy the game the way they like it. Where's the problem? Icould not have said it better
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.07.15 12:51:00 - [49] ITT: People confusing Industrialists with Carebears.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.07.15 13:07:00 - [50] Quote: To me: Carebear=avoids PvP at all costs. Plays game as if it is single player/offline. I still recall in my early days of people asking: "I have to log off, how do I save?" and "I have to take a dump, where's the pause button?" - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz

Raukho Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2009.07.15 13:13:00 - [51] Originally by: Selma Body I still dont get the - remove carebears from high sec. Join 0.0 alliance. Grow a pair. Get some ships. Join gangs. PVP Or are you too scared of loosing a ship that anything biger then noob ship is too scary for you to kill solo ? Most 0.0 spaceholding alliances are made up out of carebears. That's why they nap so much. For the rest you are right. Also my alt is a carebear.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.07.15 13:16:00 - [52] Originally by: Irida Mershkov ITT: People confusing Industrialists with Carebears. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
LUH 3472	Posted - 2009.07.15 13:25:00 - [53] the truth is we love carebears
LUH 3472	Posted - 2009.07.15 13:26:00 - [54] form behind
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.07.15 13:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Not everyone is welcome into deep space, mainly because they are casual players. Or simply wants to do mining or missioning etc. Our weekend warriors disagree with you. slurps on some more arkonor ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.15 14:07:00 - [56] Originally by: Emily Envy I don't think anyone can really say what would happen. But my guess would be that 1. Prices for certain ships and modules would increase. 2. Prices for LP store items would go up even more. 3. Highsec would be pretty deserted. 4. Incredibly whining from those people who don't do "real" pvp but rather wardec/grief carebears would ensue. 5. I would actually enjoy all this. Mostly because i would be filthy rich. Like, even more. That all sounds pretty good to me!
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2009.07.16 20:49:00 - [57] Originally by: Yarinor What I don't get is what carebears spend their isk on. The only thing you they need isk for is skills. Somebody has to shell out all those billions for officer mods.
Darkeen Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.16 23:36:00 - [58] Originally by: Mavrk Originally by: Vagilicious Well if the 'carebears' went away who would build all the shiny new toys for the l33t uber PVPers to shoot each other with? the l33t uber PVPers' industry alts. Nope, he doesnt. All leet pvp industry alts would be nerfed too as they arent pvp'ing, and thus are carebears (not pvping, by definition). So there would be NO ships left.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.07.16 23:42:00 - [59] Originally by: Darkeen All leet pvp industry alts would be nerfed too as they arent pvp'ing, and thus are carebears (not pvping, by definition). Not quite. The leet pvp industry alt would be an industrialist and would thus pvp, so it wouldn't be a carebear. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice	Posted - 2009.07.17 05:09:00 - [60] Gosh Forbid if somebody actually does both roles!! *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats



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