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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:25:00 -
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Okay so you wanna reward WOLFY for not plexing and not to boost us who plexed? Nice.
Now you say that if you kill "same ship and same person" over and over again to gain LP, you will get banned. How about you get your lazy beer fattened asses off the chair and CODE that you cannot earn same LP from same person and same ship than your previous kill was. Or make 1 minute delay from gaining LP's from same person.
Do something in CODE instead of threatening your players.
UGH!
Yours, Kuolematon the Official Finnish scene person and the creator of Caldari Overlords known as PERVS
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:29:00 -
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You mad, Kuole?
Why did you never come to kill me, Kuole?
I am really sad you didn't show up, Kuole. ___________________
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:30:00 -
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This message has been brought to you by the letter F.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:38:00 -
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Why mad? I'm mad because CCP cannot code but instead they attack their CUSTOMERS!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 15/07/2009 09:38:38 You sad?
It is pretty much certain plexing also will get a LP reward (allthough i still think defensive plexing should get much less of a reward than offensive, unless they change defensive plexing).
FW is still made for pvp, not to sit on a button in a condor in low sec.
There allready is a delay in place which prevents you from killing someone more than once within a minute, do your freaking homework before making stupid topics. It also has been calculated again and again that with these sad rewards it is impossible to exploit it.
Edit: Talking about coders, now consider i replied before intigo had replied, but before i was through all the crap of the forums it is 8 minutes later.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.07.15 09:55:00 -
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Don't fret my dear, the LP for Kills is so minuscule that you need to kill nothing but rank10 BS without help for it to amount to anything. (Try tallying up all your kills so far and see how much it amounts to).
The FW LP Store is an effort by CCP to make people run FW missions instead of fighting each other. FW has had a year and a half as a PvP training ground, now it is time for it to become a Carebear training ground!!
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.07.15 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer FW is still made for pvp, not to sit on a button in a condor in low sec.
Burn!
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Furb Killer FW is still made for pvp, not to sit on a button in a condor in low sec.
Burn!
That hurt, maybe I'll go and lose a vagabond to a bunch of merlins about it.
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 15/07/2009 11:18:09 The merlins werent the real problem, those griffins were.
But serious, you attack someone because he kinda ****ed up and lost his vaga to t1 frig gang? Dude do some more research and find better material. Since you are obviously afraid to get tired, let me do some work for you: For example this, do you seriously think losing a vaga is something special after such fail?
Or are you just sad because of yesterdays failed attempt to gank me? I have more reason to be sad considering that was the third camp i ran into in my attempt to reach destination system.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.15 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Furb Killer FW is still made for pvp, not to sit on a button in a condor in low sec.
Burn!
That hurt, maybe I'll go and lose a vagabond to a bunch of merlins about it.
ouchies.
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:08:00 -
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I think the point here is to:
A) Stop people farming LP by creating an alt in the opposing militia they can repeatedly kill for LP. This should really be coded, as Kuolematon states, but if anyone gets a suspicious amount of kills against a single person, it could easily be petitioned. This isn't the point, as it should be done automatically, but it is easily traced, so as soon as it is noticed, you can bet people will be submitting petitions over it.
B) You may think the loyalty points gained from each kill are miniscule, but that will only happen if you fly in nothing but big fleets. I think this formula for LPs is excellent, as it will encourage much more smaller-scale combat, something which has been seriously lacking in FW. I rarely see solo players roaming around in lowsec. In fact, it's uncommon to see war targets outside of Old Man Star. Few people seem to venture far from their 'comfort zone'. I suspect this may change with the introduction of these loyalty points. Greed will motivate people to start taking people on 1v1 again.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:51:00 -
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If you are planning to do 1v1s to make isk in FW you are seriously doing it wrong. It just is a neglectable ammount of lp you get.
Which is also why it wont be exploited, you wont make more than 5M an hour with 2 accounts, that is just a sad ammount.
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Peon'c
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:08:00 -
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Here to confirm that all (us) programmers are inherently lazy.
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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Peon'c Here to confirm that all (us) programmers are inherently lazy.
Signed. Who will play eve if we all will start to work ?
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Discova
Interstellar Corp Exhumers
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:06:00 -
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I'm a programmer and I am lazy as s**t!
I approve this message
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Droog 1 on 15/07/2009 17:42:37
Originally by: Kuolematon Okay so you wanna reward WOLFY for not plexing and not to boost us who plexed? Nice.
You got a medal for all that plexing and will you also get LP for kills. I don't know why you would be upset.
Originally by: Kuolematon
Now you say that if you kill "same ship and same person" over and over again to gain LP, you will get banned. How about you get your lazy beer fattened asses off the chair and CODE that you cannot earn same LP from same person and same ship than your previous kill was. Or make 1 minute delay from gaining LP's from same person.
Do something in CODE instead of threatening your players.
How about just not killing your own Alt over and over and risking suspension/ban? Sounds to me like you know some people who were looking to exploit this and now they risk a ban if they do. Don't vent your anger on CCP cos you can't.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.15 17:59:00 -
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Quote: Or make 1 minute delay from gaining LP's from same person.
Because I feel like it, i just point out again that the pervs 'solution' to the 'problem' is allready in place, it is called session change timers.
So how does it feel to emorage about something which even according to your own definition isnt a problem?
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.15 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 15/07/2009 18:55:16
Originally by: Unfamed II
That hurt, maybe I'll go and lose a vagabond to a bunch of merlins about it.
Heh, interesting you didnt mention the 2 griffins.
Is that because it would completely invalidate your point since the vagabond couldnt lock anything in the whole fight due to its crappy sensors?
Without the griffins, those frigs would have been slaughtered
But yea, I guess 8 vs 1 was not safe enough without ECM
ed: I'm gonna admit, with the poor pilot quality in FW it might be seen as an accomplishment nonetheless...
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.15 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote: Or make 1 minute delay from gaining LP's from same person.
Because I feel like it, i just point out again that the pervs 'solution' to the 'problem' is allready in place, it is called session change timers.
So how does it feel to emorage about something which even according to your own definition isnt a problem?
You are again thinking too small, think BIG like smartbombing whole fleet of alts/minute then you are on right track
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.15 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
You are again thinking too small, think BIG like smartbombing whole fleet of alts/minute then you are on right track
So, you mean like paying a ton of RL money so you can get alts to kill, in order to earn LP which you convert to isk.
I might be mistaken, but it seems to me it would be easier to just buy GTCs?
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Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Okay so you wanna reward WOLFY for not plexing and not to boost us who plexed? Nice.
Um, must have missed the part where we have anything to do with this? You mad because we 'farm' tama? Or are you mad because you ran a bunch of plexes for nothing, hoping for a reward that was never promised, and then deemed a medal insufficent?
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 16/07/2009 02:33:11 The whole LP-for-kills concept is poorly thought out imo.
Faction warfare is ridden with killmail-ninjas that only fly around the large engagements in ceptors getting on a ton of mails with 0 damage while adding absolutely nothing to the fight, this should not be rewarded in any way, it also shouldnt hurt those that did the killing.
A sound concept could be to only award LP to the pilot that dealt the final blow, or alternatively to the pilot that scored top damage.
Personally I'd say dont award any LP for pvp kills, you already get the loot. Award LP for missions and plexes only.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.16 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote: Or make 1 minute delay from gaining LP's from same person.
Because I feel like it, i just point out again that the pervs 'solution' to the 'problem' is allready in place, it is called session change timers.
So how does it feel to emorage about something which even according to your own definition isnt a problem?
You are again thinking too small, think BIG like smartbombing whole fleet of alts/minute then you are on right track
It was 5M for 2 accounts, using a smartbombing BS to kill the alts will increase your theoretical income to 5M per alt (so effectively double it). However this is assuming you can keep docking and undocking your alts in new ships at full speed without going brain death.
If people want to risk their sanity for a fifth of what a lvl 4 mission runner roughly makes, let them. The only interesting result of it is the horribly scewed militia statistics it will result in.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.16 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Xenophanes Colophon on 16/07/2009 09:27:47
Originally by: Omara Otawan Edited by: Omara Otawan on 16/07/2009 02:33:11 A sound concept could be to only award LP to the pilot that dealt the final blow, or alternatively to the pilot that scored top damage.
Personally I'd say dont award any LP for pvp kills, you already get the loot. Award LP for missions and plexes only.
The problem with this is that it ignores the support ships, like inties that are actually tackling like they should, recon ships and electronic attack ships using their ewar, command ships buffing you, RR ships keeping you alive. Fleets aren't just damage dealers. To ignore the support vessels that let the damage dealers actually do damage would just be stupid. After all, aren't the damage dealers some of the last ships you shoot at in fleet warfare? (Tacklers being last for those winning, first for those losing)
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.07.16 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan Faction warfare is ridden with killmail-ninjas that only fly around the large engagements in ceptors getting on a ton of mails with 0 damage while adding absolutely nothing to the fight...
These cretins are commonly referred to as tacklers and are pretty much essential for any kill Same for eWar ships who may not have a noticable impact on the individual kill but a large impact on the engagement as a whole.
Originally by: Omara Otawan A sound concept could be to only award LP to the pilot that dealt the final blow, or alternatively to the pilot that scored top damage.
Top damage dealer if anything, final blow can come from a sneeze. Might actually work rather well since it could make people fit gankier, thus decreasing buffering leading to more overall kills.
Still waiting for a CCP response to the query regarding "LP for VP". Plexing is a rather large part of FW after all whether the gate/station campers like it or not.
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Talianax
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.16 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon whineeeeeeeeeeee
can I have your stuff?
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2009.07.16 12:47:00 -
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Thread locked.
Please note that ranting is not permitted.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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