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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.17 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 I live in Wales, I see none of these problems unless I travel about 120 miles to the nearest major city on a friday night. Otherwise it's all farmers and "Good morning <name removed>, Nice weather isn't it. Were you at the showground last Saturday? Dai-log's old nag came SECOND, can you believe it?"
I am proud to live where I do, I feel sorry for you that your area is not the same and I worry about how long until mine is the same..
And that's why I prefer my small town living above anything else. The people know each other and help each other. Some may call it boring but I call it peace of mind and good living. Not to mention I've got a kick ass view.
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Atreus Tac
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.17 23:37:00 -
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Before i post im under 25 so im not jsut getting old.
England is a pain in the arse to live in. However that has very little to do with what you are suggesting. I bleieve that, as in most other countries, it is the revoultion of information that is destorying it and the media that has spawned from it. One key culprit has to be the daily mail.
If you think that paper if fine then you are the ****ing ones that are ****ing destroying this country.
For example how long ago was it when the trident missile system was due for an upgrade that would cost billions? Not to far back i think. Do you also remeber how everyone critised the government for overspending on military? I'll stop there as it is obvious where this is going.
We have grown this country into a country filled with fear and stupidity. We seem to have a need to fear something and seem to want to cover ourselves bubblewrap tied so tightly we have little room to move.
As the once wise Yoda said "fear is the path to the dark side. fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering"
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.18 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 18/07/2009 00:00:02
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Look on the bright side though, at least you're not in Somalia.
Pretty much this, it's the reason my family left.
Edit: and glad I now reside in Wales.
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Kyguard
Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.07.18 00:19:00 -
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You also don't tip. -
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.07.18 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard You also don't tip.
They do however pay their service personal salary, unlike those cheapskate americans.
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Leviathan9
Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.07.18 01:30:00 -
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I've been living in london my whole life.. and i have to stay, its a **** hole tbh.. UK is just getting worse imo.. ---------------------------
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.07.18 07:56:00 -
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It's not that bad in estonia. Ofc being one of those post-soviet countries we do have our fair share of problems and I guess in every country there is politicans one just loves to hate but who somehow always get elected.
But yeh - you guys are getting a bit creepy with your "anti terrorism" mindset that seems to mean just really big brother for regular people. I'm old enough to remember the the last decade of soviet system in here, ya know telling children what is ok to say and what is not before they go to school, bcos someone might tell KGB about your family if you talk "wrong things" in there etc. You guys seem to be wading happily in that direction.
Prolly not as bad as USA just yet. I don't think that one is "free country" currently. Then again I'm quite far from there and my perspection might be a bit tilted.
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Kurfin
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Posted - 2009.07.18 15:46:00 -
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I live in england, and I too am an old git (30). I don't think that serious crime has got any worse, or most of the antisocial behaviour. Back when I was an 18 year old student in Manchester 97/98 people still got randomly beaten up (as happened to one of the guys from our halls of residence) A&E was still full on friday and saturday night. And when I was 20 I was relived of my wallet at knife point.
I really don't think it has got any worse, it just gets publicised more often now as the media have discovered it sells paper/gets people to watch. The spate of stabbings last year, mostly in London, was only really unusual because of the people involved being so young.
On the up side we have an awesome music scene
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Kyanzes
Amarr Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.07.18 16:19:00 -
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Nah. It's badass here. A huge load of up to no good & good for nothing people (unbeatable combo) leave constantly to find their luck in the UK and Canada and other countries. Things getting better by the day. Cheers from Hungary.
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.07.18 16:22:00 -
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No, my country is definitely not as bad as yours.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Gin G
Halls Of Valhalla
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Posted - 2009.07.19 02:16:00 -
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all we need to do is shoot a few people
brown abu hamza (hangings also too good for him) pretty much all of the labor party the crew of 5th gear
then make hunting chavs a sport bring back fox hunting shoot anyone who supports the congestion charge/banning smoking/greenpeace sink any ships that enter british waters with the french flag get out of the EUSSR stat a war with the french create a superrace that look alot like darleks thern start to reclame the empier starting with america Please refrain from editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist |
Koronbei
Omega Strike Force
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Posted - 2009.07.19 03:05:00 -
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Not only is my country worse than yours, its probably the worst in south east asia. Britain has it easy.
If you guys want to see a broken country, travel to Africa, Indonesia, Thailand, or my favorite the Philippines.
I judge a country in terms of its ability to move forward with the economy and society, and I have to say the Philippines is moving backwards.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.07.19 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Yesh I live in england. I am 35 years old and in my lifetime I have seen this country get worse and worse.
There is simply not enough space here to type everything that is wrong with 'Broken Britain', but to surmise this place is becoming more violent, more arrogant, ruder, drunker, dumber, souless, selfish, self obsessed, vain, pregnant, welfare dependent, immoral and a host of other negative adjectives by the day.
Can your country beat this in terms of undesirables? Can you say anything positive about England or the UK in general?
The UK is one of the most restrictive countries on this planet, there're third world dictatorships that aren't as dictatorial as the UK. Remember that there is no other country in the Western World that protects itself from its own citizens as vigorously as the UK, also remember that the UK is now proactively and harshly cracking down on freedom of speech.
And now the UK have put Blair, the warcriminal who should be hung for his corruption and crimes, forward as president of the EU. It is a disgraceful country that I will never, ever set foot in again. I am not Brit but my wife who is hates the UK even more than I do.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.07.19 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Super Whopper on 19/07/2009 04:44:46
Originally by: Brujo Loco Someone, please help me, I can't bully everyone anymore
LOL @ the insecurity in this post.
The Empire that is the US is dying fast and you're no longer the super power that you were, get over yourself. You can always increase millitary spending to prove a point and drive your deficit over a trillion.
Oh wait...
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.07.19 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper Edited by: Super Whopper on 19/07/2009 04:44:46
Originally by: Brujo Loco Someone, please help me, I can't bully everyone anymore
LOL @ the insecurity in this post.
The Empire that is the US is dying fast and you're no longer the super power that you were, get over yourself. You can always increase millitary spending to prove a point and drive your deficit over a trillion.
Oh wait...
Don't think Venezuela was ever a super power.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.07.19 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Super Whopper on 19/07/2009 05:03:14
Originally by: Atreus Tac Before i post im under 25 so im not jsut getting old.
England is a pain in the arse to live in. However that has very little to do with what you are suggesting. I bleieve that, as in most other countries, it is the revoultion of information that is destorying it and the media that has spawned from it. One key culprit has to be the daily mail.
If you think that paper if fine then you are the ****ing ones that are ****ing destroying this country.
For example how long ago was it when the trident missile system was due for an upgrade that would cost billions? Not to far back i think. Do you also remeber how everyone critised the government for overspending on military? I'll stop there as it is obvious where this is going.
We have grown this country into a country filled with fear and stupidity. We seem to have a need to fear something and seem to want to cover ourselves bubblewrap tied so tightly we have little room to move.
As the once wise Yoda said "fear is the path to the dark side. fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering"
got a little side tracked and bored (another thing that is making life get worse)
And how do you intend to control millions without fear? You really think that the UK, or any third rate country, keeps hammering on about fear for the fun of it? While you are scared of some unknown, distant, unexistant threat the government can do as it pleases.
The UK, a country of less than 80 million has more CCTV camera's on the streets than China. Now they want to introduce face recognition software to catch criminals, keep DNA and finger prints indefinitely, have everyone's financial data on record (so they can 'lose' them when they mail them to unknown people) and brand everyone a criminal. What does that say about where the UK is going? Does this sound like a free country to you?
And then when you request the government disclose what it has on you it takes years to get your files, after a few court orders, that can't be enforced, and when you do get it it's all blacked out. What has the government to hide, other than its violations of the law?
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.07.19 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krystal Vernet
Originally by: Super Whopper Edited by: Super Whopper on 19/07/2009 04:44:46
Originally by: Brujo Loco Someone, please help me, I can't bully everyone anymore
LOL @ the insecurity in this post.
The Empire that is the US is dying fast and you're no longer the super power that you were, get over yourself. You can always increase millitary spending to prove a point and drive your deficit over a trillion.
Oh wait...
Don't think Venezuela was ever a super power.
I totally misread the post, sleep does bad things
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.19 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yesh I live in england. I am 35 years old and in my lifetime I have seen this country get worse and worse.
There is simply not enough space here to type everything that is wrong with 'Broken Britain', but to surmise this place is becoming more violent, more arrogant, ruder, drunker, dumber, souless, selfish, self obsessed, vain, pregnant, welfare dependent, immoral and a host of other negative adjectives by the day.
Can your country beat this in terms of undesirables? Can you say anything positive about England or the UK in general?
Help fix it, or **** off. People like you who just sit around and regurgitate Daily Mail whines are part of the problem.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.19 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Yesh I live in england. I am 35 years old and in my lifetime I have seen this country get worse and worse.
On the contrary, my parents can remember the worst excesses of Thatcher and her policies, the miners strike, the 3 day week, the destruction of the unions and the death of British industry.
Things aren't great right now but they have been worse.
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There is simply not enough space here to type everything that is wrong with 'Broken Britain', but to surmise this place is becoming more violent, more arrogant, ruder, drunker, dumber, souless, selfish, self obsessed, vain, pregnant, welfare dependent, immoral and a host of other negative adjectives by the day.
To be honest, I don't think it is.
The main problems in my eyes are the survailence society that we seem to be sleep walking into post 9/11.
I really don't think the country is as bad as you say it is. Yes there are problems, and as much as it pains me to say this (being Scottish and all), the sooner we get Labour out and the Tories in to try and fix things the better.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.19 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
Originally by: Yesh I live in england. I am 35 years old and in my lifetime I have seen this country get worse and worse.
On the contrary, my parents can remember the worst excesses of Thatcher and her policies, the miners strike, the 3 day week, the destruction of the unions and the death of British industry.
Things aren't great right now but they have been worse.
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There is simply not enough space here to type everything that is wrong with 'Broken Britain', but to surmise this place is becoming more violent, more arrogant, ruder, drunker, dumber, souless, selfish, self obsessed, vain, pregnant, welfare dependent, immoral and a host of other negative adjectives by the day.
To be honest, I don't think it is.
The main problems in my eyes are the survailence society that we seem to be sleep walking into post 9/11.
I really don't think the country is as bad as you say it is. Yes there are problems, and as much as it pains me to say this (being Scottish and all), the sooner we get Labour out and the Tories in to try and fix things the better.
It was the tories that started the "surveillance society". I haven't seen a particle of evidence that they've changed their minds about it.
The sooner we break out of the stagnant, corrupt New Conbour diarchy the better.
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Kurfin
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Posted - 2009.07.19 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros On the contrary, my parents can remember the worst excesses of Thatcher and her policies, the miners strike, the 3 day week, the destruction of the unions and the death of British industry.
Things aren't great right now but they have been worse.
The main problems in my eyes are the survailence society that we seem to be sleep walking into post 9/11.
I really don't think the country is as bad as you say it is. Yes there are problems, and as much as it pains me to say this (being Scottish and all), the sooner we get Labour out and the Tories in to try and fix things the better.
Destruction of the unions isn't such a bad thing. Back then the unions were too strong, and strong union tend to shoot themselves in the foot buy making their industry in that country very uncompetitive, this either forces the company/companies abroad or bankrupts them making thousands redundant. Workers rights need to be balanced against retaining employment in the country.
As for the death of British industry, it's improved air quality so it not an entirely bad thing. Also jobs like manufacturing, mining etc cause more health problems and will therefore put a greater strain on the NHS than office work.
And finally the 'surveillance society' it doesn't seem to work, it moves crime to other areas with less cctv but that's it. It's not like the images off cctv cameras are much good anyway, I'm not sure I even recognize a picture of my own mother off most of those things.
Still if we keep up the pressure, and keep complaining about it, sooner or later one of the political parties will realise that there is serious number of votes to be gained from dismantling the surveillance network. In fact the tories might start when they get in, they have to cut a huge amount of public spending from somewhere and the cameras would be a popular choice with the public.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.19 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
It was the tories that started the "surveillance society". I haven't seen a particle of evidence that they've changed their minds about it.
What makes you think that?
If you are talking about the work of MI5 and the rest of the security services during the miner's strike and in Northern Ireland then really, that's nothing compared to where Labour has taken the country since 9/11.
The DNA database, identity cards, ISP record keeping, internet surveillance and ever increasing amounts of CCTV cameras are all Labour inventions and nothing to do with the Tories.
The Tories have committed to scrapping identity cards as soon as they win the election and that's a big draw for me.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.19 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kurfin
And finally the 'surveillance society' it doesn't seem to work, it moves crime to other areas with less cctv but that's it.
Right, and the rest of us get to walk around the CCTV covered areas and have all our movements tracked instead.
It seems kind of pointless, don't you think?
Quote: It's not like the images off cctv cameras are much good anyway, I'm not sure I even recognize a picture of my own mother off most of those things.
Don't confuse professional grade cameras with the grainy shop CCTV images you have seen on Crimewatch and the like.
Professional grade cameras are used to enforce the London congestion charge and then read off every number plate passing them using ANPR.
Vehicles can be tracked throughout the system in this manner and I'm pretty sure they also send the details to the DVLA and can flag up vehicles that don't have road tax or insurance and if not, the Police certainally have roadside ANPR cameras that do this.
Catching road tax dodgers and those without insurance is undoubtedly a "good thing" but this is not why the system was set up, and is a good example of feature creep and the way that something can be extended and modified to watch more and more and record more and more way in advance of what was intended.
If you are of interest to the security services, what's to stop them putting your registration into the database and tracking your vehicle's movements every day?
Who watches the watchers?
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.07.19 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
Originally by: Yesh I live in england. I am 35 years old and in my lifetime I have seen this country get worse and worse.
On the contrary, my parents can remember the worst excesses of Thatcher and her policies, the miners strike, the 3 day week, the destruction of the unions and the death of British industry.
Things aren't great right now but they have been worse.
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There is simply not enough space here to type everything that is wrong with 'Broken Britain', but to surmise this place is becoming more violent, more arrogant, ruder, drunker, dumber, souless, selfish, self obsessed, vain, pregnant, welfare dependent, immoral and a host of other negative adjectives by the day.
To be honest, I don't think it is.
The main problems in my eyes are the survailence society that we seem to be sleep walking into post 9/11.
I really don't think the country is as bad as you say it is. Yes there are problems, and as much as it pains me to say this (being Scottish and all), the sooner we get Labour out and the Tories in to try and fix things the better.
You say that like it's a bad thing?. The London Tube Driver's Union which i would love to see destroyed still strikes over pay (they get ú40k) and when a tube driver gets fired for opening the doors on the wrong side of the platform.
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baraka shogat
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Posted - 2009.07.19 17:52:00 -
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Sup Yesh, you need to move to God's land (the north-east) all is milk and honey here.
Disclaimer: this may be a complete lie.
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.07.19 19:26:00 -
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In overall the Netherlands is a small but awesome country to live in, much much freedom here (Gallente were Dutch people). But on the political side, it's pretty much a chaos, like in any other country.
And the immigrants, they keep coming here: Loads of Moroccans, loads of Polish. At least the Polish immigrants try find a job, the Moroccans keep messing things up, lazy fudgers..
Bla bla bla I too have a ****ed up country bla bla. _____________
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.19 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
Originally by: Malcanis
It was the tories that started the "surveillance society". I haven't seen a particle of evidence that they've changed their minds about it.
What makes you think that?
The fact that I was alive at the time, and remember it, perhaps?
The tories were more than happy to extend police power to limit the activities of people they didnt like.
Note that I'n not defending Nu Labor; I'm just saying that if you think the tories will save you from omnipresent cctv, the you're deluding yourself.
Can you cite any recent (last 1-2 years) policy speeches or papers from the tories that would indicate otherwise? Everything I have seen indicates that not only are they quite content with the surveillance society, but that they would actively extend it.
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Iasius
Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.19 21:32:00 -
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On policy nowadays you cant really slide a piece of paper between Tory and Labour. They both say fluffy things about health, education, etc. The only difference is that Labour will tax more to achieve it.
Alan Clark, deceased Tory grandee once said that Britian managed its own country and the British Empire with government that was a small fraction of what it is today.
Nowadays politicians in the UK wash their hands of accountability for stuff like trains to stupid oversight quangos. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. ~Saint |
TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.07.19 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 I live in Wales, I see none of these problems unless I travel about 120 miles to the nearest major city on a friday night. Otherwise it's all farmers and "Good morning <name removed>, Nice weather isn't it. Were you at the showground last Saturday? Dai-log's old nag came SECOND, can you believe it?"
I am proud to live where I do, I feel sorry for you that your area is not the same and I worry about how long until mine is the same..
Gonna be the third person to say it, but I live in wales and its a very nice place.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.07.20 05:13:00 -
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The UK went from the merry band of Cromwellian lunatics to the lunatics that are the New Extreme Fascists in power now.
All those claiming the UK isn't that bad, please claim the dossiers the government has on you and we'll see what isn't that bad. They will refuse to hand anything over under the data protection act, despite the law saying otherwise, and it will take you years.
Also, which so called first world country takes babies off their parents to sell them on? Could it be the UK? Oh, yes it is!
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