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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Angelus Morat, that is a very concise, astute, well thought out & articulate observation. It isn't the first and unfortunately it more then likely won't be the last. Anything that doesn't fit into his perception of things is, in his mind, clearly wrong. I believe he doesn't even understand the situation, he's just frustrated that he already isn't as "respected" as he believes he should be.
He has posted and said many times that once the people see, they will understand and as he said, "respect him and follow his orders". I don't think he acknowledges that people have seen for themselves and have already chosen. Path was wrong for engaging someone that was red to him. I was wrong to help organize the pilots he abandoned and others that left (the first time). Neo was wrong for organizing the Neutrals that left (the second time). The laundry list of individual pilots that left throughout the weeks were clearly wrong. Bumface Jones was wrong for leaving with Ascension (third) because of his leadership. Logicfx was wrong for siding with the best interests of his alliance (fourth). Let us not forget CCP was wrong when they closed his alt's (temptress huni) thread for Hub Zero. The Major was wrong for flying with pilots he got along with and respected. Finally EVERYONE is wrong that posts ANYTHING negative about him. Sorry if i missed anyone, i only swing by UF occasionally. In his mind we are all wrong, and clearly we fail to understand.
When the multitude of posts, mails, private convo's don't get through. When 90%+ of the pilots that come down and fly with him, then leave dejected don't get through. When his own trusted allies tell him he's gone too far, and instead of heeding their advice, he alienates them, doesn't get through. When his own words and actions are quoted back to him, doesn't get through... I don't know what will.
I still believe the Hub endeavor can work. Only if his role is delegated to manufacture and recruitment at most. Unfortunately i doubt he can see the "Hub" and himself as separate. In his mind they are one and the same. Sure he may announce he will hand over the reins, but he puts prerequisites in. Which is indicative of how his non leadership role would play out. Run things until he see's you do something he would do differently then he'll jump right back in.
Look at things form his perspective though. As he has already stated, he has been in UF for YEARS. He'll never leave. He'll continue to play station games or stay cloaked. He'll always coax more pilots down. Risk high sec jumps everyone now and again for T1 fittings. That's what he does. that's his niche'. UF-KKH will always be that quirky system with that quirky pilot with delusions of grandeur. As a individual pilot he's fine. As a leader, well thats when problems start.
Your pretty cool at twisting events and arguing your point. Are you a lawyer?
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Gurgeh Morat
Gallente Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:15:00 -
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tl;dr Aaron is an unreliable schizo and I can't stop eating from the troll trough :(
Originally by: Aaron
I have only told things as they have happened, major did try to recruit my friends and sew bad seeds among them. I am prepared to move on from these things as they are petty compared to the ultimate goal of moving neutrals into npc 0.0. Im adult enough to try to work with major on this and be true to my word.
You are a troll Aaron. If you're not a 10-15yr old girl, you do a really good impersonation. You see, right now you sound all reasonable and put upon, and any decent father would give you twice your normal pocket money and let you stay out at the party all night.
Except in this case you don't seem to understand... "major did try to recruit my friends and sew bad seeds among them." I can't type in whiny voice font unfortunately :(. but this is NOT Major Trant. This is purely a demonstration of your own paranoia, he doesn't work that way. You have inferred a threat that doesn't exist. The only threat to you was that the ppl you have somehow persuaded to believe you are actually competent might experience an alternative. That perhaps you would lose control of your precious Hub, that you would no longer be the main man or perhaps all those 300% markups from corp minerals would dry up?
I admit you have a silky, sneaky, tongue (but I didn't tell the police because you might be saved). I hope you work in marketing in your day job otherwise you are being wasted. However, I tell you again and all noobs thinking of joining you. I have followed the dramas in this thread since day one, and many times people have said things against you and you have refuted their claims.
In all those pages, because I knew neither you nor the antagonists I have remained (sort of) on the fence. Gradually leaning against you as your unpredictable, and power crazy personality showed itself. Gabriel always made very good arguments without resorting to childish insults, but I often assume the wolves are cleverer than the sheep.
But there is no way back for you as far as I am concerned. I have seen you twist and turn, changing both your arguments and your mind to suit your purpose. How can you on one hand be accusing someone with an impeccable reputation of double handed sculduggery in one post and begging him back in the next? At least have the courage of your convictions and stick with your initial misguided and paranoid suspicions. Even the most idiotic individual knows that once their trust has failed in someone it is impossible to regain.
You erroneously doubted MT and you will always be paranoid about him even if he were to come crawling back to your arms, which is the one thing I can guarantee he will never, ever do.
Since Psycho mentioned the Einstein quote about insanity on page 2 or 3 (I can't remember and really CBA to actually check - we all know it is there) several others have picked up on it. In all seriousness, I worked for 12 years as a social worker for social services (UK) in mental health and I can't disagree with previous posters. You roleplay rain man (apart from the genius savant bit of course) really well.
Anyway your reverse trolling is still sucking me in, it's amazing! You should write a book about trolling. You're the best! No Really I mean it
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Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:28:00 -
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Quote: He'll continue to play station games or stay cloaked.
You haven't been here much recently have you? A small fleet of three battlecruisers + Carrier RR stood up in a straight on fight against Manticore, Thorax, Raven, Devoter, Hurricane, and Thanatos (Thanatos was shooting, not just RRing), got away with two kills, and forced everyone else to dock.
Ask LogiC or anyone else in AoV; we're doing much more than staying cloaked or staying docked.
To everyone else who is posting here without having been to UF who has barely any idea of what's going on: I don't give a **** about your opinion, it's clear you're just posting because you're a Major Trant fanboi from RvB. Bite me.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:35:00 -
[1684]
Edited by: Agent Unknown on 21/03/2010 04:35:54 Hmmm...
*Reads killmails*
Wait a minute...where's that drake kill we should have had? Oh wait, docking in a carrier is the new method of "on your terms", right?
Looking at those "kills", you've managed to kill a stealth bomber in a BC ...a drake in a Dominix...and a salving thorax with your little gang. Big whoop. This is actually a great way for our younger pilots to learn the ropes of PvP, so wave your e-peen all you like; 5 kills is nothing to boast about.
Have your fun in your own little universe, but rest assured you won't be boasting when the losses start rolling in.
Edit: Oh, and fighting off a station with a 20km is pro, amirite? By the way, this is my signature.
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Gurgeh Morat
Gallente Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:38:00 -
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yup, but reputation counts in eve. MT has a rep. He's not the person Aaron or Kit make him out to be.
I wouldn't have said anything, except Aaron has said exactly the same stuff about other pilots (who came to join him) in the past, I don't know them personally, but Aaron might as well be copying & pasting from his own little script and I swear that does not match Major Trant's style at all.
Something is wrong here, I'm amazed you can't see it.
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Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.03.21 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 21/03/2010 05:03:11
Originally by: Agent Unknown Edited by: Agent Unknown on 21/03/2010 04:36:08
Hmmm...
*Reads killmails*
Wait a minute...where's that drake kill we should have had? Oh wait, docking in a carrier is the new method of "on your terms", right?
Looking at those "kills", you've managed to kill a stealth bomber in a BC ...a drake in a Dominix...and a salving thorax with your little gang. Big whoop. This is actually a great way for our younger pilots to learn the ropes of PvP, so wave your e-peen all you like; 5 kills is nothing to boast about.
Have your fun in your own little universe, but rest assured you won't be boasting when the losses start rolling in.
Edit: Oh, and fighting off a station with a 20km radius is pro, amirite?
What's wrong with docking on carriers? Carriers are valid ships no? After all, it was you who used one for RR/Attack in that little fight today.
Because I'm above gloating about the exact details of kills on the forums, I'll simply tell you to ask your corpmates/alliancemates about how the Stealth Bomber and Drake kills happened. I was outgunned in both of them.
Also, it was your choice to fight off the station, not ours. You were on the station, so we engaged you. We weren't hugging the station. It was YOU who docked the Thanny/Devoter/Raven/Hurricane/Caracal. You need to learn how these engagements actually happened before going and criticizing them on the forums; there's a lot more to PVP than what the killmails say.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.21 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 21/03/2010 05:03:11
Originally by: Agent Unknown Edited by: Agent Unknown on 21/03/2010 04:36:08
Hmmm...
*Reads killmails*
Wait a minute...where's that drake kill we should have had? Oh wait, docking in a carrier is the new method of "on your terms", right?
Looking at those "kills", you've managed to kill a stealth bomber in a BC ...a drake in a Dominix...and a salving thorax with your little gang. Big whoop. This is actually a great way for our younger pilots to learn the ropes of PvP, so wave your e-peen all you like; 5 kills is nothing to boast about.
Have your fun in your own little universe, but rest assured you won't be boasting when the losses start rolling in.
Edit: Oh, and fighting off a station with a 20km radius is pro, amirite?
What's wrong with docking on carriers? Carriers are valid ships no? After all, it was you who used one for RR/Attack in that little fight today.
Because I'm above gloating about the exact details of kills on the forums, I'll simply tell you to ask your corpmates/alliancemates about how the Stealth Bomber and Drake kills happened. I was outgunned in both of them.
Also, it was your choice to fight off the station, not ours. You were on the station, so we engaged you. We weren't hugging the station. It was YOU who docked the Thanny/Devoter/Raven/Hurricane/Caracal. You need to learn how these engagements actually happened before going and criticizing them on the forums; there's a lot more to PVP than what the killmails say.
We docked because of the 8 -A- next door. It was a good call by the FC. By the way, this is my signature.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.03.21 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gurgeh Morat
Something is wrong here, I'm amazed you can't see it.
Yup, somthing is very wrong here, im amazed you cant see that there is an entire eve online universe outside of hi-sec and RvB.
Whats depicted in this thread is exactly why people dont bother with npc 0.0, the stats speak for themselves. everyone stays in hi-sec, no one goes to 0.0. Im trying to change this.
Yes I did get a small victory over Major Trant im not gonna be afraid to say it. MAJOR TRANT IS WAY OUT OF HIS DEPTH.
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Kva Plexcha
Gallente Doing You Right
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Posted - 2010.03.21 06:15:00 -
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Umm please don't forget my opinion runs closer to AoV than yours Aaron.
Personally I think Roosterton is the logical choice to lead.
Again, I am heading down to try and make Hub Zero work only. Please let me at least assess everything personally before I say anything else.
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Gurgeh Morat
Gallente Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.03.21 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Yes I did get a small victory over Major Trant im not gonna be afraid to say it. MAJOR TRANT IS WAY OUT OF HIS DEPTH AND HE KNOWS IT. Man up and deal with it.
The only thing I didn't predict here was your use of the shouty, underline key. You can scream your victory to the heavens as much as you like. You're still the only one who thinks you've won anything. If I happened to be a member of EA or living in UF right now, you would be muttering to yourself in the dark about dissention and no doubt planning to gank me before kicking me out without warning. Your version of noobs in 0.0 is no different from any of the big alliances you deride so much. You have become exactly like them.
All you've done is repeatedly broken a good idea. I only posted here to let anyone sitting on the fence about joining you know what they will be getting into, not because I ever thought you would be able to look at your own actions objectively. What Gabriel says is true. You will never see that the main problem with hub zero is the megalomaniac 'administrating' it.
Good luck UF.
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Harataka
Gekko Industries Emergent Dawn
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Posted - 2010.03.21 11:27:00 -
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Speaking as one of the high-sec carebear types you want to bring down to your little dictatorship... err, I mean "Hub Zero"..
Seriously? Do you seriously act like this in real life or is this a roleplaying thing? I'm honestly surprised every person who wants to try their hand at nullsec pvp isn't knocking on the door of your precious little fiefdom just to get a piece of you because you come off as one of the biggest d-bags in the game in your posts. Do you even read what you type? It has to be roleplaying or something because nobody is this much of a caricature.
And for so little too! I can see the sov-holding types playing dictator and all that because they actually have pixels to defend, but over NPC space? And flipping your lid over someone buying up stuff in a public market, enough to nerdrage and endanger your followers by setting a former ally or at least a neutral red? OVER A BUNCH OF MISSILES? REALLY?
The idea is a good one but damn if I and my carebear friends wouldn't touch it with a 100 foot pole due to your unbelievably overblown attitude. I'd rather try to make some diplomatic relationships on my own in a region than deal with your idea of diplomacy. Dude take a break from the game like you said you would or let someone with an ounce of diplomatic sense lead your group while you handle logistics. I find hauling, even in dangerous areas, pretty mind numbing, so maybe that'd be just the thing to get your head back on straight.
Once there's a change in structure it might be worth checking out but honestly, if this drew me in to post, think of how many people who are reading this and *not* replying while thinking you are some sort of crazy person. You're only hurting your ability to recruit anyone to your side. I bet AoV and Local Spike have had quite a bit of recruits though!
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Gabriel Angelus
Amarr Local-Spike Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.03.21 13:13:00 -
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You are correct Harataka. We have accepted quite a number of High-Sec dwellers that initially came down to fly in UF and later left. Usually mumbling, "Good Lord, i thought it was all a act..." sometime's we'll take them and teach them 0.0 life, although it is true that we are very much a NBSI corp.
I can also attest that it is not a act, what you see is what you get with him. I would never trust anything he said diplomatically or tactically. I would trust Aaron to be Aaron and once you see things from his perspective things tend to get much easier. Of course, i still don't agree with his perspective though.
I would also agree that Roosterton would be the best choice to administer the Hub from the pilots I've seen. Like I said earlier though I don't really make my way through UF much. But i have spoken with Roosterton on several occasions and have found him to be loyal to his friends, a good PvP pilot, forward thinking, tenacious and a good sense of humor and perspective.
I'm not sure what administration would want to go in and clean up this mess though. But, i do still think it can work. ------------------------------------------------ Whatever is worth living for, is worth dying for. |
Dalv Fliteo
Minmatar Not Another One Man Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.21 14:01:00 -
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Stop Posting in this thread.
Stop Telling people what to do. [ in any way possible ]
Stop talking in Local.
Settle your differences with AOV.
Step down as leader of Hubzero.
Try to act less like a crazy person.
Then i will unblock you and we can talk about me joining you.
I will never ever post on this thread again :)
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0piate
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Posted - 2010.03.21 14:30:00 -
[1694]
Edited by: 0piate on 21/03/2010 14:38:02
Originally by: Dalv Fliteo
Stop Posting in this thread.
Stop Telling people what to do. [ in any way possible ]
Stop talking in Local.
Settle your differences with AOV.
Step down as leader of Hubzero.
Try to act less like a crazy person.
Then i will unblock you and we can talk about me joining you.
I will never ever post on this thread again :)
1. not gonna happen. 2. not gonna happen. 3. not gonna happen. 4. your kidding right? we're the axis of evil apparently. 5. power hungry humans will never give up on their idiosyncrasies. 6. broken is broken.
oddly i ask this...
With all the weird crap that has happened in the last few weeks, and everything that's come to light through various posts what would make you ever want to fly with people so unwilling to accept reason, truth and pure fact?
a leopards spots never change, a madman will never be sane, lies never can be overturned, wait a while the HUB will burn.
in all honesty this is about as sad as online interaction gets. all the **** talk, back stabbing, brainwashing, and stupidity, the you are this and i am that BS is pathetic, absolutely pathetic, the players involved need to step back, slap their own faces and come back to reality. it feels like a yahoo chat ***** fight. same people different program
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Kva Plexcha
Gallente Doing You Right
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Posted - 2010.03.21 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dalv Fliteo Stop Posting in this thread.
Stop Telling people what to do. [ in any way possible ]
Stop talking in Local.
Settle your differences with AOV.
Step down as leader of Hubzero.
Try to act less like a crazy person.
Then i will unblock you and we can talk about me joining you.
I will never ever post on this thread again :)
Dalv, when posting here again please refrain from your long winded flowery opinions and just get to the point, like everyone else who post here does.
Thanks
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Bantros
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.21 18:41:00 -
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I take it this isn't a great time to come down to the hub for a pilot who has only played for a couple of months a year ago and has recently re subscribed? I have to say, these kind of stories made me want to give the game another chance
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.03.21 19:10:00 -
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Im a reasonable man, make no mistake this is my system. and I will use any tactic i see fit to get rid of people who are not towing the line, in order to live in hub zero you will have to consider the community.
At no point did I say AOV was wrong for purchasing all the missiles, I said that we needed to think bigger about how we help people into 0.0 the simple fact is this; if theres only 1 real manufacturer here (me) then we will have to work together so that eveyone can dwell here.
I attempted reasonable conversations with logicfx, I tried to iron out supply issues and get them on par with the ideals of hub zero which is to share and have consideration for your fellow hub zero dweller. frankly I would have had better luck talking to a brick wall as some people will never have these ideals, I understand this and simply want nothing from folks like Logicfx. If you dont like how I want things to be done, go away, and find another system to dwell in then we can ignore eachother forever.
As I will always say, depicted here in this thread is why people dont bother with 0.0. It seems as if Gab and a few other blame me for 0.0 being in this state.
The leader of hub zero cant be close to me like Roosterton is, if rooster was in charge people would just say hes a puppet and im a puppet-master, also because he is close to me AOV folks would still be gunning for him and anyone who he brought down here to dwell.
The leader of hub zero needs to be totally impartial, and he really shouldnt care about my dispute with AOV and generally care only about inviting neutrals here and defending them.
Youve really got a silly attitude Gab, you dont give a damn if people get into 0.0 to dwell, all you care about is making me look like a crazy dictator. I know this because your not activley involved in helping people live in 0.0 as neutrals. Your comments will never mean much to me, If you think I cant lead hub zero then I challenge anyone to come here and do a better job than I did. So far it seems there are only 2 people in the whole of eve who may be prepared to take on this role, this is myself and Kva Plexcha.
The war with AOV will continue until they leave, we will keep destroying your ships and we will never quit. I will disparage you in local and make fun of your tactics and losses until you block me. I will do everything in my power to make AOV's occupancy of uf-kkh unpleasant. you will never be able to do any real ratting when im online. this is war.
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fancyonee
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Posted - 2010.03.21 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron make no mistake this is my system
got that far and stopped reading lol
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.21 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron you will never be able to do any real ratting when im online. this is war.
That true sansha spawn I got earlier was nice, thanks. By the way, this is my signature.
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Harataka
Gekko Industries Emergent Dawn
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Posted - 2010.03.21 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron As I will always say, depicted here in this thread is why people dont bother with 0.0. It seems as if Gab and a few other blame me for 0.0 being in this state.
Not really. Pretty sure your insanity is why people are fleeing in droves or at least not even considering coming to join you guys. I'm inclined to believe Trant when he says it's like 4-5 people at most left.
Originally by: Aaron The leader of hub zero cant be close to me like Roosterton is, if rooster was in charge people would just say hes a puppet and im a puppet-master, also because he is close to me AOV folks would still be gunning for him and anyone who he brought down here to dwell.
Pretty interesting that you are vilifying AOV and saying they're going to be that tenacious when it was you who was pretty belligerent in your mails to logicfx. I bet they might be willing to deal with someone who can talk to them reasonably and without immediately flipping their lid about your ideals of NRDS.
Not saying your idea isn't good, but it takes a little more diplomacy to make work than "my way or the highway." Considering it's NPC space it's a little hard to decisively enforce your ideals, and you don't exactly have a huge number of people to do it either. Maybe a less hard-line approach is in order. Despite what you may think, many NBSI organizations are quite reasonable and might be curious about your ideas enough to work something out as well. AoV seemed willing until the missile incident.
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Major Trant
Mass Hysterya
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Posted - 2010.03.21 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kva Plexcha Personally I think Roosterton is the logical choice to lead..
This is probably the most sensible suggestion anyone has made so far. Roosterton alone has maintained the mutual respect of both sides.
I think Roosterton has more depth to his character than to be just Aaron's puppet, beside people aren't against Aaron's concept, it is his tantrums that is the problem.
Whatever, if it paves the way for a peaceful resolution to the conflict between AoV and EA that alone would be justification.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.03.21 22:35:00 -
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Well im happy to start looking for a peaceful resolution to this, im sure everyone knows that my intentions are sound and my goal is to help people into 0.0 and look out for them.
I can accept people find me annoying. I will try alot harder to listen to folks, and I hope people will try harder to listen to me.
The stats are appauling for the volume of people living in 0.0 compared to hi sec, and this is the main issue I want to change. I will say this however, for the infancy of hub zero we will have to work together as a community and have consideration for other peoples needs and find a way to work together in this harsh part of the universe.
It will be great when Hub Zero matures then we can get 8 people to provide ammo on the market.
I feel that AOV arnt totally unreasonable, and I know that if neutrals come here they probably wont fire upon them, id really like to believe this.
So i willl say this to AOV; lets not stand in the way of Hub Zero and keep our gripes as a seperate issue, Ive said that im happy to stand down as leader of hub zero, and would be happy to offer any assistance to neutrals comming here to live. I do not want to instruct the neutrals in any way, and I dont want to have any political voice within the neutrals. I will however give advice if i am approched by any neutral asking for it.
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Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
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Posted - 2010.03.21 23:03:00 -
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Im sorry, been following this religiously the last few days, and still cant stop laughing my ass off at each mention of the "UF Missile Crisis" that sparked the cold war.
If my corp had still been in EA at this time, it would bar none, have been the most embarasing association in our history... (well bar loosing a carrier to a titan while the pilot was afk with girl-friend aggro ahwile back.)
I cant see any post in this thread from anyone, actually affect their reputation in any positive light, (even myself).
Its all personal, and actually quite detromental to the spirit of "the game". E-Honor? pfft...
Aaron you're a such pleb... why'd u ban us from hubs chat btw? We hurt your feelings to?
Hubs actually did work, even had myself and our corp hooked for a while, then we got to know you better, and couldn't distance ourselves fast enough. You're a noble guy Aaron, but you get way to ahead of yourself, your ideals as honerable as they are, are too often tainted by your Neurotic actions decision making. (Im not even going to comment on you posts...)
You need to "step out" of your position for a moment and think about what options you leave other people when you rage at them into "seeing things your way".
No CEO can back down from a threat on his corp or alliance and be able to save face towards his own members. The moment you tell someone "Do this or else" you've ended any chance for diplomacy. The only option they have left is to take the hostile route.
As you can see thats lead to similar situation for both Aaron and logic, neither could end this without a fight.
May the best side win.
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Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
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Posted - 2010.03.21 23:15:00 -
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Bah and for eveyone else, trying to burn Aaron at the stake.
Get lives, or go play a game.
The man's only human and actually just trying his hardest to build a player driven community the only way he knows how. Sure I've seen tons of people post what a **** diplo he is, but instead of actually trying to publicly crucify him, how about leading by example. All I see here is one prick ranting about what a prick another prick is.
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Redmaxim
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Posted - 2010.03.21 23:20:00 -
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wow, really amusing read!
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skuggan
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2010.03.21 23:33:00 -
[1706]
This thread makes me wanna go there and just buy random $hit of the market, sit back and watch the apocalypse of doom break loose :) -- Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. |
Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
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Posted - 2010.03.21 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Azran Zala on 21/03/2010 23:51:55
oh and while im busy talking **** with you all, something I want to say about Dalv Fliteo.
Firing on him, when he was "set red" (without having agressed first) was the first time ever in this game that I hesitated to follow an fc's order, and even felt ashamed of my actions. I think the game changed for me in that moment. And any belief I had in the concept of NRDS exploded with his ship.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.03.22 00:09:00 -
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I think we all have to accept that hub zero isnt for everyone. I dont think NBSI is the right type of attitude to have here.
In my experience ive found that nbsi guys want me to define a boundry of where they can shoot neutrals without me gettin annoyed at them, Im of the opinion that this will be detrimental to neutrals that dwell in hub.
Is it not NBSI attitudes that stop people venturing into 0.0 in the first place? And would it really be wise to have elements of NBSI associated with us? these are 2 very interesting questions id like to debate about. for as long as ive been playing (7 years in May) the low volume of people living in 0.0 has remained the same.
I would also say that even if I hadnt built this "reality-tv thread" I would have still been faced with the same issues.
I seen alot in this game, I have a third account that has been part of a massive alliance called g..........*communication channel disrupted by unknown source*
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Bantros
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.22 00:22:00 -
[1709]
Aaron, I mailed you ingame. I'd like to come to Hub Zero and see what it is all about
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Zaraz Zaraz
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Posted - 2010.03.22 01:38:00 -
[1710]
Originally by: Aaron
I seen alot in this game, I have a third account that has been part of a massive alliance called g..........*communication channel disrupted by unknown source*
Awwww Aaron! How sweet! Are you trying to make believe that you are associated with the Goons? Thats real cute.
Aaron, they wouldn't have you. Except as a gimp, perhaps. Complete with rubber suit.
Fool.
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