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Princess Loretta
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Posted - 2009.07.25 16:53:00 -
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Never professed that my ideas were brilliant - just thoughts on new technology.
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Jack Airron
Gallente Setenta Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.07.25 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xious Edited by: Xious on 25/07/2009 11:00:08
Originally by: Mecinia Lua Organic Hulls that heal themselves. These would have a base rate of armor and hull heal like the ships today have base rate of shield regeneration. (You'd probably need new organic based modules to go with them).
Thats an amazing idea. Its astonishing no-one's thought of that before and put it some sci-fi space show.
We should do that with EVE and call it.....SpaceWindow: Atlantica. Someone will need to find us a witty computer expert, a loyal yet handsome main character, an exotic female (able to do the splits is a req), who, for reasons unkown, is an awesome fighter and a man with long hair who has a deep voice (also a beard is preferable).
IT'LL BE A HIT.
i see wut u did thar.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.07.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Loretta
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Princess Loretta Ninja salvaging is too risk free IMO.
Oh the hypocritical battlecry of the carebears.
How hypocritical?
Because the ones complaining about the lack of risks in ninja salvaging are mission runners — you know, the other completely risk-free thing to do in highsec.
Quote: I'm not saying it should be made impossible just not the annoying risk free enterprise it currently is.
It's not risk free, for one. For the other, I think everyone would love to have this since ninja salvagers would then go around and stick these bombs into the wrecks they find — it's only fair, after all, considering how risk-free mission running is. Free carebear kills to be had for all!
Quote: this would at least slow down those non-carebears(?) who can't/won't run their own level 4 missions.
You do know that salvaging has nothing to do with missions, right? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Lijhal
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.07.25 17:37:00 -
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a module, which distribute the incoming damage of the primary (ship) to other vessels ...
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Princess Loretta
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Posted - 2009.07.25 17:50:00 -
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Quote: It's not risk free, for one.
Please do explain the risks then?
Quote: You do know that salvaging has nothing to do with missions, right?
You do know that salvaging makes a lot of isk right? Or why would we have ninja salvagers?
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.07.25 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Loretta
Quote: It's not risk free, for one.
Please do explain the risks then?
If in missions: you might attract the attention of the rats. Otherwise: someone else might beat you to the punch.
Quote: You do know that salvaging makes a lot of isk right?
So what? It still doesn't have anything to do with missions.
Quote: Or why would we have ninja salvagers?
Because they wanted to introduce rigs and because the materials had to come from somewhere. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Princess Loretta
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Posted - 2009.07.25 17:59:00 -
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Ahh.. so the risks are you may have to warp out and someone else might salvage before you - sounds dangerous.
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Princess Loretta
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Posted - 2009.07.25 18:00:00 -
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Anyway - kind of getting off topic. Mine was just an idea and I'm not particularly worried if things continue as they are.
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Arvald
Caldari The Lumberjacks
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Posted - 2009.07.25 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Xious Edited by: Xious on 25/07/2009 11:00:08
Originally by: Mecinia Lua Organic Hulls that heal themselves. These would have a base rate of armor and hull heal like the ships today have base rate of shield regeneration. (You'd probably need new organic based modules to go with them).
Thats an amazing idea. Its astonishing no-one's thought of that before and put it some sci-fi space show.
We should do that with EVE and call it.....SpaceWindow: Atlantica. Someone will need to find us a witty computer expert, a loyal yet handsome main character, an exotic female (able to do the splits is a req), who, for reasons unkown, is an awesome fighter and a man with long hair who has a deep voice (also a beard is preferable).
IT'LL BE A HIT.
its been done before sga numbnuts the one i can think of is in EV Nova with the polaris ships.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.07.25 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Loretta Ahh.. so the risks are you may have to warp out and someone else might salvage before you - sounds dangerous.
It's the same risks the mission-runner/salvager has to face, so if it's enough for them, it's enough for the pure salvagers as well. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Anubis Assassin
Caldari SandStorm.
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Posted - 2009.07.25 18:49:00 -
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I don't have any ideas for it atm, but awesome possum, you do realize that salvage scavengers (there's nothing "ninja" about it) are even more "carebear" than the mission running carebears, right? So be that as it may, I'm thinking your carebear tears are probably more sugary than the mission runners :) --------------------------- I have to make my own sig break? WTF? These forums suck CCP, fix 'em or get something better... I'm tired of reading Khraunus' sig every single time I read one of his |
Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.25 18:57:00 -
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Cause it has been said
Mission Runner Risks -
Suicide ganking your loot + salvage hauls to a market hub Suicide gank you expensive toy Ninja Salvagers
Ninja Salvager Risks -
Scan down a crappy mission to salvage (like finding a BC running a L2 or L1) Warp in on Recon 3/3 Lose his salvaging ship Lose his combat ship because the carebear has a ton of carebear friends int he same system
Definately more on both sides. What happen to "Risk vs Reward" that so many mission runners like to talk about? ________________________________________________
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.25 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Loretta Ahh.. so the risks are you may have to warp out and someone else might salvage before you - sounds dangerous.
My suggestion to you: Wait until you are skilled up and running level 4s easily.
Train up your astrometrics/salvaging skills, and try ninja salvaging for a few weeks.
Then you'll understand, maybe.
YOU may salvage every wreck in every mission, but you'll find a LARGE number (don't want to misquote fake %) of level 4 runners don't even touch their wrecks.
If it weren't for ninja salvagers, the price of salvage would skyrocket, and so too would the price of rigs.
Do you like the idea of paying 2-3x more for CCC/purgers for your mission ship? ♥
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Princess Loretta
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Posted - 2009.07.25 19:36:00 -
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That's flawed logic - if salvage prices skyrocketed I'd get more isk from the salvaging I already did. Anyway, I can see your point and if it's true that lots don't salvage then fair enough. I'm not really trying to stop ninja's - just (as post title states) thought that would be a fun new tech.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.07.25 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Loretta That's flawed logic - if salvage prices skyrocketed I'd get more isk from the salvaging I already did. Anyway, I can see your point and if it's true that lots don't salvage then fair enough. I'm not really trying to stop ninja's - just (as post title states) thought that would be a fun new tech.
Because you can't spell frustration without using F-U-N ________________________________________________
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Discrodia
Gallente Blood Red Dawn Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.07.25 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 25/07/2009 18:13:27
Originally by: Xious Edited by: Xious on 25/07/2009 11:00:08 Thats an amazing idea. Its astonishing no-one's thought of that before and put it some sci-fi space show.
We should do that with EVE and call it.....SpaceWindow: Atlantica. Someone will need to find us a witty computer expert, a loyal yet handsome main character, an exotic female (able to do the splits is a req), who, for reasons unkown, is an awesome fighter and a man with long hair who has a deep voice (also a beard is preferable).
IT'LL BE A HIT.
its been done before sga the one i can think of is in EV Nova with the polaris ships.
EVN was epic win....
So if we're gonna copy them we need ships you make out of psychic energy that only skills can form and can't be sold.
Not too shabby... ___________________________________________
Discrodia > Annoying idiots in 0.0 is my business. Business keeps picking up. Discrodia > I also like misquoting stuff :D |
Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.25 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Loretta That's flawed logic - if salvage prices skyrocketed I'd get more isk from the salvaging I already did.
Exactly, so trying to nerf stick ninja salvagers is nothing more than a greedy carebear plot to line their own pockets with more ISK at the expense of rig buyers game wide. ♥
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Zurrar
Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.07.25 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C salvage isnt yours so it would have to cause concord agression :)
also corpse launcher is THE and i mean THE best launcher. i have bodies all over the place.
better question is... what are YOU doing with the corpses in the mean time...
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.07.26 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Xious Edited by: Xious on 25/07/2009 11:00:08
Originally by: Mecinia Lua Organic Hulls that heal themselves. These would have a base rate of armor and hull heal like the ships today have base rate of shield regeneration. (You'd probably need new organic based modules to go with them).
Thats an amazing idea. Its astonishing no-one's thought of that before and put it some sci-fi space show.
We should do that with EVE and call it.....SpaceWindow: Atlantica. Someone will need to find us a witty computer expert, a loyal yet handsome main character, an exotic female (able to do the splits is a req), who, for reasons unkown, is an awesome fighter and a man with long hair who has a deep voice (also a beard is preferable).
IT'LL BE A HIT.
The idea predates the New Battlestar Galactica by decades.
Probably one of the earliest Sci Fi organic ships would be the TARDIS from Doctor Who.
Similar ships have appeared in Babylon 5 (Shadow, Vorlon and Nimbari ships were organic).
New Battlestar Galactica (Cylon Ships)
Star Gate Atlantis (Wraith Ships)
Star Trek (Tin Man in TNG series)
Star Wars (Vong)
Its a common theme in sci fi that we don't have yet in EVE :)
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.26 12:41:00 -
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If someone starts salvaging 'your' wrecks, just leave them and start another mission
You'll probably make more isk anyway
There is exactly zero risk for the missionrunner.
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Armoured C
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.07.26 13:18:00 -
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there shouldn't be any risk to salvagers
since your only clearing up space trash, it doesn't belong to anyone. Missions on the other hand do belong to someone but not the wrecks. So basically mission runners need the risk ramped up considering the amount they earn for doing sweet FA with dumb A.I with ships that are easy to kill with no tactile ability.
I for one can't wait for sleeper A.I to come to missions. Then and only then will level 4's be on balance with risk vs reward because sleepers A.I would kick there ass and make for every BS kill. People will have to stop doing it AFK.....brilliant.
Armoured C forum extraordinaire #69 top poster
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.07.26 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Zartanic on 26/07/2009 13:44:35 Booby trapped loot as a nice present for suicide gankers.
Observation posts that a player can launch and then see out of from a small window while he gets on with other things in the game.
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Rivur'Tam
X10 PUNISHM4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.27 12:27:00 -
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the ogin to only change skill would be awesome or be able to change skills via eve website i would love that in fact gonna put it in that section of fourm
my vid watch now
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Labratory Rat
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Posted - 2009.07.27 19:21:00 -
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A module for a BlackOps ship that emits a de-cloaking pulse on a 1 hour timer. If you are not AFK you can resume your cloak after the pulse dissipates. Duration of pulse should be somewhere between 20-40 seconds.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: ForceM
Originally by: Denny Haze
Originally by: Xious Edited by: Xious on 25/07/2009 11:00:08
Originally by: Mecinia Lua Organic Hulls that heal themselves. These would have a base rate of armor and hull heal like the ships today have base rate of shield regeneration. (You'd probably need new organic based modules to go with them).
Thats an amazing idea. Its astonishing no-one's thought of that before and put it some sci-fi space show.
We should do that with EVE and call it.....SpaceWindow: Atlantica. Someone will need to find us a witty computer expert, a loyal yet handsome main character, an exotic female (able to do the splits is a req), who, for reasons unkown, is an awesome fighter and a man with long hair who has a deep voice (also a beard is preferable).
IT'LL BE A HIT.
You mean Wraith online?
It needs moar ... Some nerdy doctor from scotland that talks like Scotty from Startrek. Some Lifesucking aliens.
ooo ... dont forget a new ship .. lets call it Unicorn!!
No, it needs a hidden sunken city
People LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE hidden sunken cities!!!!
And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |
Syrian Mettle
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Posted - 2009.07.27 20:37:00 -
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Fleet Defensive ships, probably destroyer based.
Which can fit modules which either
a) emit shields like a POS, only smaller in radius and not as strong, you can't fire anything across the shield but you could mine asteroids enclosed within the shield bubble, shield emitter should be stationary when active and take some time to be put up and taken down (i.e. would significantly slow mining operations and would prevent hauling etc). Shields should last long enough for a defensive fleet to form up and response to attacks.
b) mobile missile defense platform, basically 8 launcher slots with defender missiles but with an improvement in their range to act as fleet defense units which would fire on any missile not fired by your own fleet.
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