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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.05 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 05/08/2009 10:31:18
Originally by: BacardiDesire If you've been around a little bit scanning you might have noticed plexes now respwn each two hours, down time is just another cycle in this. and if you dont find plexes in your constellation.. well back luck on the spwn mechanic ;) sorry to burst your excuse
When did this change? I had been watching patch notes for a while now, and I'd given up on scanning for plexes a long time ago. (not that that was the only reason I didn't run plexes). Do you have any links to a patch note that confirms this? Or is this just your observation? (observation is great too, just trying to get info on this).
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.05 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: chatgris Do you have any links to a patch note that confirms this?
You do realise that there was nothing in patch notes about "warp in range" changes either.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
I do. Doesn't mean there isn't anything anything on plex spawn times though. Though with all this, it almost seems like these "changes" were just unintended side effects and no-one at CCP really gives a rats ass about fw mechanics.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.11 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 11/08/2009 21:02:30
Originally by: Damar Rocarion Also, to quote a PERVS member, Qcats does not even visit a liquor store without multiple tracking disruptors so why go into a fight with disadvantage?
LOL. This statement makes me proud :)
As I wasn't in that fight at the time, I've refrained from posting in this thread (though was listening in to fleet comms for it). But come on, a valid tactic to try and get some reasonable pvp in a plex (get all aggro on one person), causing you to think it was on purpose (and before you started emoraging, we didn't even know about it), is a little bit.. childish? You should really get your spies up to snuff. The current situation isn't "oh look it's a plex, lets take it and analyze it and go to Sisi and plex some more to figure out the mechanics". It generally falls within these two cases:
a) I've found a plex in system X. General Reaction: *yawn*/ahh, I better go to sleep I have work in the morning (I've seen half the corp log off within 3 minutes after someone mentioned taking a plex instead of roaming).
b) I've found a plex with Damar/one of damars alts in it. General Reaction: OOH, a fight! OMW./ aww the alt is just wcs tell me if someone actually comes looking for a fight.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.11 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 11/08/2009 22:41:52
Originally by: Ronin Reborn Also, flamming QCATS for flying with TDs when you're sat in a plex full of NPCs with broken ECM...really?
Army of WCS alts? Kosher Broken ECM in plexes? Kosher, l2p gallente Tracking disruptors and wait, a few rats shot me? Wah wah flee!
/thread
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Igloo 23.Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.
Been done numerous time. No effect on matter as CCP likely supports Gallente and lets these bugs continue to exist. Would not really surprise me, as demonstrated by substandard behavior of last Alliance Tournament commentators.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
ROFL!!
BWAHAHA third! I mean, it's not like CCP gave caldari the very best rat support in the game.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.16 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger And it does not seem to go always so well http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=4006124
Of course it doesn't. But if we just engaged in fights we always knew we would win at the start well... We wouldn't get to fight as much and that would just be boring!
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:36:00 -
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Damar's standing orders are probably in place because well, he knows we'll get bored if we don't get any fights. TBH, it's probably a winning strategy.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.25 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 25/08/2009 22:50:23 Edited by: chatgris on 25/08/2009 22:45:33
Originally by: Greg6
Originally by: chatgris Damar's standing orders are probably in place because well, he knows we'll get bored if we don't get any fights. TBH, it's probably a winning strategy.
Could be or it could be just what he says. He believes we intentionally got the rats in that plex to attack him and it got his panties in a wad. For myself I'm betting on the latter, given the invective he's spouting.
Damar there is no way to prove to you that we didn't even know it was possible to do so before that fight and like Seb, I don't care enough to try. Run or fight, what you do really doesn't matter to me beyond entertainment value. :)
This ^^. I wonder if this is going to be /thread? I can't believe it's still going.
Finally
Originally by: Damar Rocarion We dont fight you in plexes because you just use the npc exploit.
For the sake of argument, lets say we do intentionally trigger the bug (which no-one I know does, see our general reply of "we didn't even know it existed", and we don't care enough to test further).
When Gallente whined about caldari NPC's, pervs posted a little quote along the lines of "Confirming that gallente are afraid of caldari NPC's". It's nothing you haven't been telling the gallente to deal with for a long long time.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 26/08/2009 18:29:19
Originally by: Davina Braben The difference with 0.0 is you win space to bear in.
FW had no cashflow associated with it. In fact it's generally an ISK sink.
Now they've added LP but it sounds like you'll be able to earn those PVPing so it still doesn't seem like a win.
Actually, the LP added has nothing to do with plexes. The LP is earned with missions and kills, with a multiplier being that the higher ranked the person you kill, the more LP you get. So really, plexing gets you nothing material, unless you play with alts that run plexes for standings and cash in for the one time rewards.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.27 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 27/08/2009 02:35:50
Originally by: Somealt Ofmine
That's kind of like saying if we're playing poker for chips instead of real money and I take all of yours, you didn't really lose, cause it wasn't real money, though, isn't it? If the objective of the game is to take the other guys chips, and you got all of yours taken, I'm pretty sure you lost.
I'd attempt a different analogy... It's like being at a party where people are playing poker for chips with no monetary value, and there also being strippers at the party. They deal you a hand, you choose to interact with the strippers instead, and they take your chips by default.
This is written from the perspective of someone who really hates plexing. If it's your cup of tea, I don't wish to belittle it. Apparently for those who have more than one account, it can be a good money-making venture as well.
But back to your analogy... fw has more than just plexing to it. Missions that actually pay good LP now. A fair number of targets who actually joined to pvp instead of deccing some indy corp for fights. (Sure, some joined just for system occupancy as well, but it's still better than deccing random corps in empire). Participation in all parts of fw is currently voluntary, so people make of it what they will, and participate in the parts they enjoy.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:23:00 -
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I officially jump off the analogy train. This is getting crazy :)
I'm going back to "it's a sandbox, you can choose to participate in what you want to". Though it's not like this hasn't all been said elsewhere, many many times, far more eloquently, and with far more passion.
* chatgris wanders off to let this thread die, unless something really really juicy comes along
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 27/08/2009 22:12:08 OK, this is really really juicy.
[ 2009.08.27 18:02:03 ] Damar Rocarion > I very much hate fw but if i'd stop, I would be surrendering to likes of Nennamaila people
I'm with you on that being the best quote of the bunch, but you left out one of the funniest parts... "Nennamaila people" LOL
For a close runner up...
[ 2009.08.27 18:07:17 ] Damar Rocarion > They crave pvp, we wont give it to them.
I'd say this sums up most of gallente/caldari plexing "war" :)
Originally by: Bad Messenger Funniest part is when you believe everything we say.
BM... I believe this when it comes to you, Kuoelmon(sp?), unfamed etc. But either Damar is the best troll that's ever lived, or he's seriously got some mental health issues. I used to think the former but lately... been converted to the latter.
Oh yeah, and welcome to the circus that is the gal/cal plexing front Kingnuts :)
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.28 02:14:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 28/08/2009 02:14:06
Originally by: Kingnuts
Originally by: chatgris Edited by: chatgris on 27/08/2009 22:12:08 OK, this is really really juicy.
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I was actually making a reference to an earlier post, notably
Originally by: chatgris * chatgris wanders off to let this thread die, unless something really really juicy comes along
You delivered
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.28 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Just "exploit" till they quit in misery, you can see how upset they get by it.
CCP won't ban anyone for it, they didn't ban anyone that used that timer exploit either despite a lot of people like me hammering on it and passing on names of notorious exploiters.
Actually ankh, I was tangling in a plex last night with damar, and my rifter ended up with rat aggro. Now that I know the bug exists, I tried specifically *NOT* to trigger it, while maintaining a good distance from damar's caracal to let my fleet mates fight him without the rats on them. (And if I didn't know from this thread, I would have just kept on going and going in a straight line cause that's the easiest way to avoid rat damage :) )
And Damar, even though you may take offence at this (which I hope you don't), it was a good fight in that plex last night. You know how to fly that caracal very well (and seeing your repeated performances in it I LOL at the caldari FC's who don't allow caracals in their fleets) and pounce on anyone who makes a mistake and drifts off towards you, you used the rats to your advantage even if in the end you had to flee due to being outnumbered, you didn't make it easy on us.
Killboard link is here.
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=4089599
Just maybe Damar, you'll finally believe that we didn't know, nor intend to trigger, said bug. And that it's a game, and there's no point in all the hate. Even if there are people in the gal mil that use the bug (and there probably are), or people who smack, it's not the entire gal mil.
In the end, hate me all you want, I'll keep offerring you a gf in local, respecting your piloting skills, and laughing at your smack if you really wanna keep it coming in spite of it all. Even if it was a gank, the gf (or gg for good gank) is just a "hey, nice tangling with you, cya round" kinda gesture.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.29 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
Originally by: Unfamed II Yeah it's about time to /thread anyways. Let's find something more interesting to smack about. Mexi Can!
Any support?
+1
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