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Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:55:00 -
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You should be getting paid by the producersnot from the buyers and even if that's true we could still be getting a better "admin fee" since they don't charge anything near what you are charging for a 3rd party.
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Togae Alus
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.12 22:54:00 -
[182]
7 tickets for me
lets see if i win
BTW i also have the big lotto thing on bio so would not mind 25% extra prize
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Hitomi Desu
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Posted - 2009.08.13 07:02:00 -
[183]
How do you frackin' justify a 10% "admin fee" ? That's hilarious.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr modro
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:24:00 -
[184]
As i cannot fly a titan myself, if I win can I nominate someone who will collect it on my behalf, so I may then arrange sale through a 3rd party of my choice? 10% "admin" fee is just ridiculous imho, and leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth towards BIG tbh, 2% i can see as justifiable but 10% is highway robbery, especially when this term was only announced AFTER numerous people had already bought tickets and I would say is not a "standard" admin fee either for an auction firesale.
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psykiller
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:40:00 -
[185]
10x tickets, isk sent :d =============================================== Strenght and Honour. Heart of one, strenght of many. Glory and Honour in death. Proud to be RAWR |
Anfinity
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Posted - 2009.08.13 14:29:00 -
[186]
5x tickets, isk sent
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Vickill
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.13 15:06:00 -
[187]
5x tickets, isk sent.
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TornSoul
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.13 15:22:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Liandra Xi As i cannot fly a titan myself, if I win can I nominate someone who will collect it on my behalf, so I may then arrange sale through a 3rd party of my choice?
You can most definatly do that. In fact, I would be delighted if you did so (as in, it saves me the trouble)
Originally by: Liandra Xi
2% i can see as justifiable but 10% is highway robbery, especially when this term was only announced AFTER numerous people had already bought tickets and I would say is not a "standard" admin fee either for an auction firesale.
And just how many auction firesales do you calculate this standard of yours off?
"this term was only announced AFTER numerous people had already bought tickets" Err yes... Alongside the added beneficial option of the firesale itself. According to your implied logic, I should remove the firesale option itself, as it was added after the first people had bought tickets...
FWIW :
I've been in the brokering (in it's broadest sense) business for 6+ years, and 10% has pretty much been the "Gold Standard" in all that time.
Occationally 5% has been used - Usually with repeat customers/old friends or when other circumstances for some reason favored a lowered fee. (5% is in fact the brokering fee for this lottery itself - As it involves old friends)
2% is outright ridiculous...
I'll grant however that 5% is seeing increased use (over the 10%) over the last couple of years (Chribba's first titan lottery was also on a 5% broker fee), but it still can not be considered a new "Gold Standard" - But we might be in a transitory state. Time will tell.
Call me old fashioned, but I find the 10% appropriate
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I must admit to being a bit perplexed as to why people are getting their panties in such a bunch over the fee, as in the grand scheme of things the winner still stands to win *alot* of ISK (if selling the titan) regardless the brokering percentage being 2%,5% or 10%.
And the real ISK makers (apart from the winners) are still the producers, and imo they can sell (or in this case "lottery off") thier produce for whatever price they like.
I guess even a 1% brokering fee would have some people upset... *shrug*
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Prodigal
Caldari New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:27:00 -
[189]
The naysayers (re: Brokering Fee) should maybe take their two cents to another thread instead of polluting this one.
Purchase tickets or go away!
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Tel'ana
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Posted - 2009.08.13 17:36:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, is there any chance that I could, IF I win, be put into contact with the "producers". I would be willing to bet that they might be interested in buying the Titan(s) back.
IE. they make almost 100bil each on these things. If the winner(s) sold them back to them for say 80Bil, they would have made a profit of 20bil(ish) and could then reauction them for even more profit.
Just an idea, though, lol.
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Certel
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Posted - 2009.08.13 17:41:00 -
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For a lot of people (including myself), this is going to be the closes I will ever get to having one of these things. The odds are not great, but I have better odds in this circumstance then I would if my corp where to try and build one (yeah not going to happen). So for me this is a win regardless of the outcome.
Thanks BIG for giving everyone a chance to have a titan.
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Navigaytion
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Posted - 2009.08.13 20:57:00 -
[192]
Just free bump , hope tickets gets sold quickly
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Jingo Valon
Caldari Rule of Five The Junta
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Posted - 2009.08.13 21:09:00 -
[193]
ISK sent for several tickets. =) And, IF I should be so lucky as to win one of these beauties, I would indeed have BIG do a quick firesale auction on my behalf, and will GLADLY give the 10% fee...it's damn near all profit to me, so why not. =) Thank you BIG, you provide a fun service !! ( where else do we have a chance at winning 3 Titans? )
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tarike
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Posted - 2009.08.13 21:33:00 -
[194]
10 tickets bought ....free bump
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Ragga Muffin
Black Serpent Technologies Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.14 02:30:00 -
[195]
WTF are people *****ing about 10% for? you are getting a F***ING TITAN for what? 10m? 50m? gimmie a break.
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SirSpectre
Gallente Harbingers Of Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 04:28:00 -
[196]
tickets bought \o/ ----
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Sja Vandr
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Posted - 2009.08.14 05:03:00 -
[197]
Quote: I've been in the brokering (in it's broadest sense) business for 6+ years, and 10% has pretty much been the "Gold Standard" in all that time.
Really? So the authority on these things (Chribba) gets an 8 bil fee?
I'm not sure which planet you are from xD
It's like saying "Yea you can win this lottery but if you can't actually fly a titan I'll take 8 billion from you" - logic is absent in that reasoning :p
Oh yes and arguements like "you'll get a titan for 10m what are you complaining about" are just ******ed...
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Warchild Lightningblade
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.14 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sja Vandr Edited by: Sja Vandr on 14/08/2009 05:06:42
Quote: I've been in the brokering (in it's broadest sense) business for 6+ years, and 10% has pretty much been the "Gold Standard" in all that time.
Really? So the authority on these things (Chribba) gets an 8 bil fee?
I'm not sure which planet you are from xD
It's like saying "Yea you can win this lottery but if you can't actually fly a titan I'll take 8 billion from you" - logic is absent in that reasoning :p
Oh yes and arguements like "you'll get a titan for 10m what are you complaining about" are just ******ed...
edit: boils down to: I require a person to be trustworthy for an auction like this, adding such a thing is just weird at the least (I don't care how you jump up and down, 10% of 80 bil+ is just a boatload for only exchanging a titan and everyone will agree with me on that), so I will not buy a ticket in this auction.
He isnt forcing you to use him as 3rd party...
And if you don't know about Tornsoul and the BIG lottery that has been running *forever*, you need to come out from under that rock.
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Jemanu
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Posted - 2009.08.14 08:49:00 -
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bump to top, if you cant fly a titan you should learn and stop complaining
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Sja Vandr
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Posted - 2009.08.14 09:19:00 -
[200]
irrelevant replies are irrelevant
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Disv
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Posted - 2009.08.14 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Disv on 14/08/2009 09:22:10 Bought 5 Tickets a few days ago, still nothing showing up in receipts? Normal? .
Disv.
P.s. I agree that 10% fee for selling something is a little OTT especially on somehting as expensive as a Titan..... maybe 5% would be a little more Fair?
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worker05
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Posted - 2009.08.14 11:06:00 -
[202]
i love an easy scam. hope your alts enjoy the pretend ships lol. lotto my foot. i really must try this make myself an easy feww hundred bill
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Hitomi Desu
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Posted - 2009.08.14 12:26:00 -
[203]
Well if one is able to transfer the Titan to someone else, I could like pick it up a week later, so I can run my own auction?
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Agmar
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:10:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Ragga Muffin WTF are people *****ing about 10% for? you are getting a F***ING TITAN for what? 10m? 50m? gimmie a break.
I'm not *****ing about 10%, but your math is a BIT flawed... .1 x 60,000,000,000 = 6,000,000,000 _____________________ Threat Level Midnight
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:04:00 -
[205]
1 ticket bought isk sent
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Ze4K DK
Gallente Nova-Tek Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:21:00 -
[206]
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Kae Sayuri
and do you have to be able to fly them to win? (Like with chribbas lottery, if you can't fly he does a firesale)
And we'll do the firesale thing if need be yes.
This is on the first page... The 10% admin fee part was added later in the OP, AFTER a lot of people bought tickets... I won't complain if i win but i still think it's wrong...
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nonsciolist
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:33:00 -
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Stop whining.
The firesale option wasn't there before the 10% thing too and people still bought tickets, so just do what you were planning on doing before the firesale if you're not happy about it and stop ****ting up the thread?
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Daemonspirit
Sadistically Sinister
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: worker05 i love an easy scam. hope your alts enjoy the pretend ships lol. lotto my foot. i really must try this make myself an easy feww hundred bill
Check your history. Even a brief bit of research will show you that Big Games has been around awhile.
Isk sent for Five (5) tickets.
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Ze4K DK
Gallente Nova-Tek Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: nonsciolist Stop whining.
The firesale option wasn't there before the 10% thing too and people still bought tickets, so just do what you were planning on doing before the firesale if you're not happy about it and stop ****ting up the thread?
It was... If you read my post, the one right before yours, you'd know that... It wasn't in the OP but someone asked about it and was told that they would do a firesale if need be, no mention of a whopping 10% fee for the service... On page 1... Before it was included in the OP... I know because i was wondering if there was gonna be that option when i read the OP, then i read further down the page, got confirmation and bought tickets... Next time i look a 10% fee has been added...
Why are you so angry anyways? Our "whining" keeps the thread bumped and doesn't affect you at all...
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Cypress Cavalero
The Darkness Within
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:59:00 -
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2x tickets plz
Isk sent
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