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Ralnik
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ralnik on 10/08/2009 23:10:17 Wouldn't it be nice to have a limited war dec ability to use against NPC toons? It seems so very un-EVE like that toons like my self can go do evil things and pay no consequence for it as I'm un-touchable inside a NPC corp.
I think CCP should put consideration into allowing 24/hr war decs against NPC corp members on a individual basis. This would allow you to deal with a nuisance but wouldn't allow you to totally grief some poor sob into emo rage quitting.
It's just far too easy to sit in a NPC corp and harass or be a nuisance to others giving them no real ability to deal with the situation.
Debate...
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:11:00 -
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Insurance is your limited wardec against npc corp players. Fit out an insured gank bs and pwn them.
Originally by: Zaqar Anyway, you don't have to be Einstein to play Eve - a quick glance over the forums will tell you that -
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Ralnik
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Insurance is your limited wardec against npc corp players. Fit out an insured gank bs and pwn them.
While that "might" work in very limited situations it's no solution, it makes you suffer the consequence of a security status hit. Not to mention your loss of isk, just to deal with some troll in a NPC corp.
This game is supposed to be about risk/reward and consequence of your actions. Allowing people to hide from War Dec inside NPC corps just takes so much away from this game.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Zeba Insurance is your limited wardec against npc corp players. Fit out an insured gank bs and pwn them.
While that "might" work in very limited situations it's no solution, it makes you suffer the consequence of a security status hit. Not to mention your loss of isk, just to deal with some troll in a NPC corp.
This game is supposed to be about risk/reward and consequence of your actions. Allowing people to hide from War Dec inside NPC corps just takes so much away from this game.
"Insurable" is the key word in that post. Though don't go after me, I get mad enough at my computer as it is when it drops internet every 10 minutes. ________________________________________________
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Ralnik
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ralnik on 10/08/2009 23:24:38
Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
Originally by: Ralnik
Originally by: Zeba Insurance is your limited wardec against npc corp players. Fit out an insured gank bs and pwn them.
While that "might" work in very limited situations it's no solution, it makes you suffer the consequence of a security status hit. Not to mention your loss of isk, just to deal with some troll in a NPC corp.
This game is supposed to be about risk/reward and consequence of your actions. Allowing people to hide from War Dec inside NPC corps just takes so much away from this game.
"Insurable" is the key word in that post. Though don't go after me, I get mad enough at my computer as it is when it drops internet every 10 minutes.
You still lose ISK and security status and you look like a total tool if you fail. Not to mention you have to trade a ship to get his, which isn't something that allows one to be satisfied. IMO.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ralnik While that "might" work in very limited situations it's no solution, it makes you suffer the consequence of a security status hit. Not to mention your loss of isk, just to deal with some troll in a NPC corp.
Why do I get the feeling this is about smack talk in local. If thats the case just block them.
Originally by: Zaqar Anyway, you don't have to be Einstein to play Eve - a quick glance over the forums will tell you that -
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Ralnik
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ralnik on 10/08/2009 23:31:13
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ralnik While that "might" work in very limited situations it's no solution, it makes you suffer the consequence of a security status hit. Not to mention your loss of isk, just to deal with some troll in a NPC corp.
Why do I get the feeling this is about smack talk in local. If thats the case just block them.
Na, it has nothing to do with smack in local or anyone specific. I'm just training this toon for Empire wars in the future. In the meantime I decided to do some can flipping and it got me thinking of how much of an annoying SOB I could be and suffer no consequences for my actions, simply because I'm in a NPC corp.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:31:00 -
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Faction Warfare should've been introduced on an escalating scale with different mega corporations declaring war on each other and going from hot to cold war involving every NPC corporation dweller at some time or another.
CCP also should've hired me to mastermind it all.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Astro Boss
Minmatar Astro Holdings A5TRO
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Posted - 2009.08.11 00:30:00 -
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DON'T FEED THE TROLLS PEOPLE!!!
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.08.11 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 11/08/2009 11:36:27 the wardec mechanics for NPC players are fine.
Vendetta and personal wars are not going to happen hopefully, because of its unlimited grief potential.
Wardeccing an entire NPC corp should cost multiple tenth of billions a day, if it would even ever be possible, because of thousands of players in it.
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Lizbeth Colare
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Posted - 2009.08.11 14:52:00 -
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Heh, don't kid yourself. Even if it cost billions, there are corps and alliances in this game that would pay it to wardec a bunch of noob players in NPC corps. There are even a few that would do it for the "noble" pursuit of going after macros.
Believe it or not, there are people who just want to play EVE casually. They just want to come in a couple of times a week, run a few missions or knock out a few roids, then leave. These people, in their numbers, make pew-pew vastly cheaper for the rest of us.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.08.11 15:09:00 -
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yes, I think there will be people paying billions for that, I'm against the wardeccing noob corps anyways. People actually doing things harassing other players are just a byproduct of that mechanic so we have to deal with that. Further, there is no actual need for war declarance, the implemented game rules cover the game mechanics pretty well. Not able for wardec a salvager? So what, it wasnt yours anyways...
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Fridge Chesthair
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Posted - 2009.08.11 15:51:00 -
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I would much rather see the non-joinable NPC corps filled with enough ships, stations, equipment and POS's to allow for a meaningful NPC wardec.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.11 17:20:00 -
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30 days in you are kicked from NPC corp to Faction Warfare Corp if you havn't joined a Player Corp.
Rather than going back to an NPC corp, you get kicked back to the FW corp.
Now people cannot hide from combat after the first 30 noob days.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.08.11 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is 30 days in you are kicked from NPC corp to Faction Warfare Corp if you havn't joined a Player Corp.
Rather than going back to an NPC corp, you get kicked back to the FW corp.
Now people cannot hide from combat after the first 30 noob days.
you dont believe there are masses of players not interested in player corps because all they do is running missions and all the NPC stuff??
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RavenPaine
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Posted - 2009.08.11 19:59:00 -
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Create a safety zone for short time NPC players either by region or time , after that , make it available to purchase a "Kill Rights" contract . 1v1 kind of thing .
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Rawbin Hood
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.11 20:13:00 -
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agreed, but, i thought the "make em emo rage quit" was all the rave these days
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Rawbin Hood
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.11 20:25:00 -
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i'm going to link this into the one i started as well, they seem to be along the same lines.
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shady trader
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Posted - 2009.08.11 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is 30 days in you are kicked from NPC corp to Faction Warfare Corp if you havn't joined a Player Corp.
Rather than going back to an NPC corp, you get kicked back to the FW corp.
Now people cannot hide from combat after the first 30 noob days.
CCP have stated in the past that one of the reasons for NPC corps is for players who don't what to be bragged into wars. forcing them in to either the faction warfare corp or a player corp is directly against this.
Forcing people in to faction warfare will only encourage them to quite. CCP have been quite clear that faction warfare is optional as is being in a player corp.
Both your idea and the original idea have been discussed to death on this very forum as they get suggested at least twice a month, with the end conclusion being that forcing people into wars is bad for the game cause some players will use it to grief other players. Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
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