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Avar Davola
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 15:08:00 -
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bump to the top, great guide
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 21:25:00 -
[62]
Originally by: William Escobar
Originally by: Spectre3353 Taranis is the best ship in the history of the world.
This. We still need to do that Ranis 1v1 :)
Bring it on :) You know I'll win. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Agba Daga
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Posted - 2009.08.20 15:06:00 -
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Resdayn now with the new cheaper rigs do u think this fitting
[Taranis, ab mwd1] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager I / OFFLINE
with ions instead of neutrons and 2 dmg rigs will be better as cheap fit then with the neutrons and no rigs? the taranis will do with the ions and 2 rgs at least 10% more dps... ok u will lose some range but get better tracking for it
so what do u think
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Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.20 16:56:00 -
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I'm considering fitting a Power grid rig instead of one Damage rig, we'll have to see how cheap they actually get
It does around 6 dps less than 3 ions with 2 dmg rigs, but I think range is more important, also faction MAPc's might be a option aswell since they're expected to cost 4-6m, we'll have to wait and see, but if things are too expensive then your fit is probably the best, considering that the PG rig isn't going to be stupidly expensive, I'd go with the following
[Taranis, ab mwd1] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
1MN Afterburner II Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager / Offline
Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Ancillary Current Router I
Warrior II x2
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FOl2TY8
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:49:00 -
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Quote: Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager I OFFLINE
I can't get this to work unless I swap out one of the Neutrons for an Ion. I have AWU IV and a 3% PG implant, perhaps AWU V or a 5% would work? ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
Galaor
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Quote: Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager I OFFLINE
I can't get this to work unless I swap out one of the Neutrons for an Ion. I have AWU IV and a 3% PG implant, perhaps AWU V or a 5% would work?
It should fit, even with AWU4, without any implants.
Are you not offlining the salvager or something?
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Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Quote: Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager I OFFLINE
I can't get this to work unless I swap out one of the Neutrons for an Ion. I have AWU IV and a 3% PG implant, perhaps AWU V or a 5% would work?
It fits with awu 3, and you should allways use the slot 6 for the small hybrid damage implant
Garmonation 7 - A pure pvp movie |
Stefan William
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:35:00 -
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Great guide thanks for info. Get one of the lads to make a blog for you, then write a cruiser/bcruiser guide for us all :) |
SpaceBall 7
Heaven's Avatars
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Posted - 2009.08.22 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: SpaceBall 7 on 22/08/2009 08:33:17 A taranis attacked my Ret in 0.0. The taranis warped off 20 seconds later. Am i Doin it rite?
Edit: I also fly a taranis and its a pretty nice guide =P
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FOl2TY8
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Resdayn
It fits with awu 3, and you should allways use the slot 6 for the small hybrid damage implant
Also, with a faction mapc you can fit 3 neutrons and 2 damage rigs, and the faction mapc's are estimated to cost about 4m, so that might be the better choice
I'll have to check it out again, I must be doing something wrong. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
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Caleb Fury
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Posted - 2009.08.24 04:28:00 -
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Hey Garmon, I'm having issues just getting the Incursus fit you recommended to get to fit. Are there any implants or anything I need to be aware of?
Of if anyone could help it would be appreciated.
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2009.08.24 08:26:00 -
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What are the benefits from, let's say engaging a noon bc pilot, say a Drake. Between the incursus and rannis, is it just the speed and dps ratio, wouldn't it just pop at the same rate if things go **** up? and at 15mil a difference, well u know were I'm going with this :)
P.s at work, dont have eft or market so bare with me :P
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.24 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771 What are the benefits from, let's say engaging a noon bc pilot, say a Drake. Between the incursus and rannis, is it just the speed and dps ratio, wouldn't it just pop at the same rate if things go **** up? and at 15mil a difference, well u know were I'm going with this :)
P.s at work, dont have eft or market so bare with me :P
DPS, EHP, speed. But one of the major upsides to the combat ceptors over T1 frigs and even AFs is IMHO also the tiny sigradius even with MWD on. --- WOLFY is recruiting!
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2009.08.24 11:49:00 -
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Ah, cheers for clearing that up, I'm currently a big fan of the ishkur and have flown the incursus for several months similar to my ishkur fit, now to practice as if it were a rannis :P, bump for a great guide o7
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:20:00 -
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Some really good stuff. I'v been flying and losing dual-propulsion taranises a lot lately and I agree that they work very well. Especially doing guerrilla stuff where you need to hit hard and get out fast.
AC Thrashers have proven pretty easy to kill. orbit at 500 with overheated AB and guns and I usually pop them with about 25%-50% structure to spare. You need to get close fast though. the ones with one small neut fitted can be dangerous though and makes the fight a lot riskier.
Thrashers with arties can be tough when piloted well but overheating mwd and doing a nice serpentine approach usually works (again small neut fits are your enemy here)
I dont understand the problem with assault missile caracals. I only seem to run into ones with t1 launchers so maybe their skills arent that good but they seem to die while I still have a lot of structure left. I always engage them with overheated AB to reduce damage.
I expect the rig changes to make things a bit harder for the taranis. I lost to a trimarked rifter yesterday for example (was kiting me, but usually nuke them anyway, but this time he had way too much armor) and i expect trouble with thrashers putting on shield rigs.
WTB rigs that give you more structure Hp :)
another tip is to not forget all the tasty and cheap implants for small hybrids/tracking. really helps the ranis. Put in space whales!
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Morel Nova I dont understand the problem with assault missile caracals. I only seem to run into ones with t1 launchers so maybe their skills arent that good but they seem to die while I still have a lot of structure left. I always engage them with overheated AB to reduce damage.
Proper solo AML Caracal has dual web. A quick look on BC shows you killed a couple of AML Caracals lately... one with only a single web and no tank, and the other with no web at all, and both with T1 launchers, so watch out for the real ones.
Having said that, proper AML Caracals are still rare. And as Garmon says, you can test their fit by just dipping inside web range, so if you do meet a real one you should be able to disengage.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.24 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 24/08/2009 14:04:56
Originally by: Resdayn
Also, with a faction mapc you can fit 3 neutrons and 2 damage rigs, and the faction mapc's are estimated to cost about 4m, so that might be the better choice
I have a bunch of those now, looks promising. And the NMAPC didn't cost an arm and a leg even now.
(Though the relative performance increase is not as big as triple trimark or extender frigs) --- WOLFY is recruiting!
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.08.24 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Morel Nova I dont understand the problem with assault missile caracals. I only seem to run into ones with t1 launchers so maybe their skills arent that good but they seem to die while I still have a lot of structure left. I always engage them with overheated AB to reduce damage.
Proper solo AML Caracal has dual web. A quick look on BC shows you killed a couple of AML Caracals lately... one with only a single web and no tank, and the other with no web at all, and both with T1 launchers, so watch out for the real ones.
Having said that, proper AML Caracals are still rare. And as Garmon says, you can test their fit by just dipping inside web range, so if you do meet a real one you should be able to disengage.
yeah you are probably right. I'll give it a go on the testserver. Probably wouldnt help me though, I'm **** at disengaging even when I know I should. It goes a bit like this: Brain: ok that celestis is piloted by a 2004 player and I can see small guns in some slots, prob neuts too. Blood thirst: CHAAAAARGE! KILL! Brain: wait, what?! no!
I bet others have this problem too :( Put in space whales!
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Jumper01
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Posted - 2009.08.24 14:19:00 -
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A nice guide! What are your thoughts of fitting a td??
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Morel Nova
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Morel Nova I dont understand the problem with assault missile caracals. I only seem to run into ones with t1 launchers so maybe their skills arent that good but they seem to die while I still have a lot of structure left. I always engage them with overheated AB to reduce damage.
Proper solo AML Caracal has dual web. A quick look on BC shows you killed a couple of AML Caracals lately... one with only a single web and no tank, and the other with no web at all, and both with T1 launchers, so watch out for the real ones.
Having said that, proper AML Caracals are still rare. And as Garmon says, you can test their fit by just dipping inside web range, so if you do meet a real one you should be able to disengage.
yeah you are probably right. I'll give it a go on the testserver. Probably wouldnt help me though, I'm **** at disengaging even when I know I should. It goes a bit like this: Brain: ok that celestis is piloted by a 2004 player and I can see small guns in some slots, prob neuts too. Blood thirst: CHAAAAARGE! KILL! Brain: wait, what?! no!
I bet others have this problem too :(
+1 here lol, lost an ishkur to an 03 thrasher pilot :(
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jumper01 A nice guide! What are your thoughts of fitting a td??
I dont think its worth it. you need to give up either afterburner/mwd or web which means you cant dictate distance/run away/keep transversal. if you are dead in the water the enemy can still pilot his ship to offset the tracking speed disruption. if you are using optimal range disruption it might save you against some kiting, but on the other hand if it can kite you it can run away from you too so you wont get a kill. also it wont help against drones (your biggest enemy) whereas speed and web will.
have never tried it though so maybe it can work. Surprising the enemy is usually very efficient. Put in space whales!
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killerkeano
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:45:00 -
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bloodie awesome vid!!
have flown ranis for ages and is my favourite ship ingame. thanks for sharing vid with us
ignore the nooblets :)
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froster
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:51:00 -
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Edited by: froster on 25/08/2009 07:51:54
Originally by: Morel Nova
Originally by: Jumper01 A nice guide! What are your thoughts of fitting a td??
I dont think its worth it. you need to give up either afterburner/mwd or web which means you cant dictate distance/run away/keep transversal. if you are dead in the water the enemy can still pilot his ship to offset the tracking speed disruption. if you are using optimal range disruption it might save you against some kiting, but on the other hand if it can kite you it can run away from you too so you wont get a kill. also it wont help against drones (your biggest enemy) whereas speed and web will.
have never tried it though so maybe it can work. Surprising the enemy is usually very efficient.
If you fit a TD you will fit an AB and a scram, that's the only way this can work.
so you are able to dictact range of other mwd thingy. (well considering that you don't try to escape)
i'm trying to play with a td fit, but i didn't lost enough ship yet to be able to say it work or no :)
edit: on a side not i'm not playing in 0.0, just in FW so rules arn't the same...
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ropnes
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: ropnes on 25/08/2009 14:33:56 Why caldari navy instead of void?
edt: -- ignore me I'm stupid as always --
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Triksterism
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:32:00 -
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Great, now everyone is going to know how to fly Taranises properly.
Otherwise, great guide. ------------------------
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kestrel lied
Blood Red Dawn Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Triksterism Great, now everyone is going to know how to fly Taranises properly.
Otherwise, great guide.
in other words, moar fun to fight other ranises
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Tarac Nor
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:36:00 -
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sir you will always be the king, all hail the king.
Great guide buddy, will have to make the effort to not use bombers for a change and join you on a ranis opp.
to the top.
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wallenbergaren
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Posted - 2009.08.28 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Resdayn
Cheap Blaster fit ;
[Taranis, ab mwd1] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager I / OFFLINE
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Warrior II x2
Replacing the Neutrons with Ions allows you to fit the Burst and Collision rigs and will give you about 10% more DPS, and the rigs are ofc quite cheap now =)
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: wallenbergaren
Replacing the Neutrons with Ions allows you to fit the Burst and Collision rigs and will give you about 10% more DPS, and the rigs are ofc quite cheap now =)
This fit is also in the OP:
Quote:
Expensive version;
[Taranis, ab mwd1] Micro 'Vigor' I Core Augmentation Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Salvager I / OFFLINE
Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Warrior II x2
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ropnes
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:48:00 -
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Well, that was the expensive fit Look up the price on Micro 'Vigor' I Core Augmentation ;)
Just saying you can replace the neutrons in the cheap fit, keep the price almost the same and get some extra dps
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