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presser99
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:52:00 -
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I remember my grandmother in australia telling me about many people going and waiting at the top of a local hill for the end of the world due to the signs . the signs being a comet , hailys comet actully , looking at it she was born around 1900 so it must have been the 1909 / 10 ? pass . ( i rememebr the 82 pass )
Alot of important local people looked a bit silly the next morning , expect the same at the end of this year . |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:05:00 -
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The Mayan calendar doesn't actually predict an end of the world on Dec. 21, 2012. It predicts the end of the current age or cycle, not the complete end of humanity. But the end of each age is marked by a sharp shift, not a gradual change. World-changing disasters, kind of like a Noah's flood event. The last time the calendar showed an age shift, Hernan Cortes invaded Central America. A disaster for the people there, but not the whole world. Check out Religions of Mesoamerica by David Carrasco (an anthropology book, not New Age book). |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:14:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Jett0 wrote:Did the Mayans account for leap years?
Cause if not, we should be dead already. We would have to account for leap years when converting their calendar to ours, not the Mayans. Actually we've already adjusted our calendar date to most accurately match theirs. Quote: The Mayan calendar completes its current GÇ£Great CycleGÇ¥ of the Long Count on the 13th baktun, on 13.0.0.0.0. Using the most common conversion to our modern calendar (the Gregorian calendar) the end of the GÇ£Great CycleGÇ¥ corresponds to 11:11 Universal Time (UTC), December 21, 2012, hence the myriad of doomsday prophecies surrounding this date.
That's what I was saying. We have to adjust our calendar to theirs and account for the leap years to get the date that we got, not the other way around as Jett0 was mentioning. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:57:00 -
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I WANT TO BELIEVE the end is nigh when I wake up on monday mornings FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |
Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
211
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Posted - 2012.05.31 16:59:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote: That's what I was saying. We have to adjust our calendar to theirs and account for the leap years to get the date that we got, not the other way around as Jett0 was mentioning.
Sorry, I was supplementing your statement, not rebutting it. "Actually" was a poor choice of words. "As a matter of fact" would have been a better phrase to lead in with.
Sorry! You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.31 17:04:00 -
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the mayan calender is incredibly accurate. the only thing the calender says is that its the end of an age or era, I think something will happen, not ending the world but our way of life.. Read somewhere the on that day the earth, sun and center of the galaxy will align in a way that only happens every few thousand/millions/ of years..
I believe something will happen, but not doing anything drastic, living life the way I want hoping its just a giant rock. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.05.31 18:41:00 -
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If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans? |
Lingfei Wen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.31 19:26:00 -
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I m a bit believe in this. Juz some different senses, and observe somethings strange more frequent recently, but cannot speak out what is going strange. Juz a feeling...
It may not be the end, but seems sth is going to change. |
Lingfei Wen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.31 19:31:00 -
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Riedle wrote:If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans? Maybe they know we r coming to destroy the Earth so they've gone xD |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:29:00 -
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Riedle wrote:If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans? Well, they accurately predicted the change of the last age. But when the time came, apparently they were looking for signs and misread some. The feather serpent god Quezalcoatl was supposed to come back. One of his guises is as a golden haired man. So when blondie Spaniard Cortes showed up, they thought he was Quetzal bringing in all the good stuff of the new age.... |
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Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:57:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:the mayan calender is incredibly accurate. the only thing the calender says is that its the end of an age or era, I think something will happen, not ending the world but our way of life.. Read somewhere the on that day the earth, sun and center of the galaxy will align in a way that only happens every few thousand/millions/ of years.. I believe something will happen, but not doing anything drastic, living life the way I want hoping its just a giant rock. Yeah, the quasi-scientific theory is that in December 2012 the Earth's magnetic axis will exactly align with the Milky Way galaxy's overall magnetic axis. That's because of the Earth's precession. The axis doesn't spin in one spot, it makes a loop every 26,000 years. The axis will reach a point in the loop aligning with the galaxy's magnetic poles.
Meanwhile, the solar system has its own magnetic axis, and the solar system is moving within the Milky Way. And the Milky Way is rotating. So the Earth is reaching a point where all of these magnetic axes will line up, a once in a million years event or something. In December 2012, these fields that have gradually been lining up will hit their ultimate alignment. The way two magnets suddenly snap together, when you gradually bring them close together-- that's what will happen when all the fields align. A sudden snapping into place of all the forces. The Earth's magnetic field will shift all over the place, which will disrupt the equilibrium of forces in the Earth's core, mantle, crust and atmosphere. So earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, storms, etc., etc.
That's the theory I read at least. I don't know how it checks out with the scientific community. I don't even know if they can detect or measure the overall magnetic fields of the solar system or the Milky Way. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:33:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:Riedle wrote:If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans? Well, they accurately predicted the change of the last age. But when the time came, apparently they were looking for signs and misread some. The feather serpent god Quezalcoatl was supposed to come back. One of his guises is as a golden haired man. So when blondie Spaniard Cortes showed up, they thought he was Quetzal bringing in all the good stuff of the new age....
Right..and.... you are almost there...
riiight, it's all a bunch of shite just like every other time someone said the world was going to end.
I fret for our future in that in this day and age, where people are supposedly educated, but lost their collective grip on rationality.
Now THAT is scary ****. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:36:00 -
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Lingfei Wen wrote:I m a bit believe in this. Juz some different senses, and observe somethings strange more frequent recently, but cannot speak out what is going strange. Juz a feeling...
It may not be the end, but seems sth is going to change.
Ok, ignoring the god-awful grammer, but sorry - saying that "Something is going to change" is just about the safest freaking prediction one can make seeing as the only freaking thing in life that does not change is change itself.
my god.
Critical thinking FTL |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:38:00 -
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Quote:That's the theory I read at least. I don't know how it checks out with the scientific community. I don't even know if they can detect or measure the overall magnetic fields of the solar system or the Milky Way.
Well I will help you out with this. It's all 100% certifiable, Grade A, Organically grown bull ****.
You're welcome. |
Calairis
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:43:00 -
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With all the Florida zombie attacks in the news over the past 2 weeks... I'm starting to wonder. |
Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:49:00 -
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Everyone believing "the world will end" - can i have your stuff ?
"caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |
Something Random
The Barrow Boys
151
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:57:00 -
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OK - serious
at ya again
Picky = Worlds real big, really really big. Very hard to end.
Fact = Humans are weird - every capacity to make a utopia but dont. Crises everywhere apparently, lots of bad stuff to worry about and shoot your neighbour in the face for.
Mayans = made a calendar, and continued it to a long long long time ahead - got bored and went and did something else, like feed themselves.
Guy quitting his job over this. Sad.
My thoughts..... im rolling the eve sub over to 2013.
Roll on Israel attacking Iran.
"caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.01 07:27:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Shalia Ripper wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:The economy is going to ****, there is no doubt in that, but it is not because China or US or anything like that. It is because the economy assumes infinite growth, but we got finite resources. The resources are going away, but still we waste and "consume". No thought is given to the fact that the system itself is flawed, and needs to be replaced in order to continue a decent way of living. You mean the minerals in those holes in the ground don't replenish during downtime? Well, maybe they do replenish during downtime, but we haven't seen a downtime yet
Perhaps that is what all this doomsday preaching is about, the coming of the downtime. Give nature a few million years to rest to replenish some resources :P
Though, in all seriousness, it is very sad the way humanity is operating. |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
296
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Posted - 2012.06.01 13:35:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:Riedle wrote:If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans? Well, they accurately predicted the change of the last age. But when the time came, apparently they were looking for signs and misread some. The feather serpent god Quezalcoatl was supposed to come back. One of his guises is as a golden haired man. So when blondie Spaniard Cortes showed up, they thought he was Quetzal bringing in all the good stuff of the new age.... Right..and.... you are almost there... riiight, it's all a bunch of shite just like every other time someone said the world was going to end. I fret for our future in that in this day and age, where people are supposedly educated, but lost their collective grip on rationality. Now THAT is scary ****. Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:21:00 -
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Quote:Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality.
Ok, so let me get this straight.
Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol)
In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's?
Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is.
Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius. |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1363
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:27:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Quote:Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality. Ok, so let me get this straight. Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol) In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's? Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is. Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius.
But not the Wankas... always wondered why the Wanka people went extinct |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:29:00 -
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I am 1/32 Wankan |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
296
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:49:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Quote:Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality. Ok, so let me get this straight. Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol) In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's? Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is. Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius. So I guess while he was at it he went ahead and destroyed Pisarro. A pre-emptive strike, so that Pisarro couldn't destroy the Incas like the history books say.
Anyway, nitpicking aside. True, the Mayan peak was over by the time Cortes arrived. It was the Aztec cities and loot he was targetting. But the Aztecs had borrowed culture from the Maya and Toltecs, kind of like Europe borrowed from Rome. And according to this anthropologist David Carrasco, the Mayan calendar was still being watched by the Aztecs and other people in Central America. Thus the mistaking Cortes for Quetzalcoatl.
Anyway, it's all good. I'm not sold on this 2012 Mayan calendar thing myself, was just throwing a factoid out there. It was published on paper in a textbook-type book. It has to be right, right? |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:57:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:Riedle wrote:Quote:Huh? The part about the Mayan calendar and Cortes is a recorded historical fact, not some recent 2012 internet hoodoo. You can look it up. Rationality means forming your opinions based on facts and evidence. Discounting facts because they don't fit into your personal world view-- that's not rationality. Ok, so let me get this straight. Firstly, I will ignore the fact that the Mayan civilization ended 600 years before Cortez came ashore in mexico to encounter the AZTEC civilization.. (lol) In anycase, even if it were the Mayans who encountered Cortez (which it wasn't) You are telling me that the evidence that you are presenting for the 2012 mayan dooms day scenario is the fact that the mayans, themselves, misinterpreted (ie: got wrong) one of their own predictions in the 1500's? Sounds like before you lecture someone on what historical fact is it would do you good to find out what historical fact is. Cortez destroyed the Aztec and Inca civilizations, genius. So I guess while he was at it he went ahead and destroyed Pisarro. A pre-emptive strike, so that Pisarro couldn't destroy the Incas like the history books say.
Yes, it was Pisarro who destroyed the Inca's. I was so flaberghasted with all of your errors that I guess it rubbed off on me.
Now, can you learn from what I posted or do you still intend to stick to your mayan fables? |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
296
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:10:00 -
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Edited afterwards, scroll up Riedle. Now we've got a time warp paradox going. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:33:00 -
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Very well, I was hoping you could come around. faith in humanity saved |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
463
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Posted - 2012.06.01 18:50:00 -
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if the end of the world comes, then let it come. I'll be, most likely, sitting in the front row enjoying the show first-hand, like I always wanted. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
110
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:04:00 -
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Riedle wrote:If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans?
I doubt they were actually wiped out to the last man (genocide is not that easy and wasteful on top of it: who is going to work in the goldmines?) so I guess there are still a few around.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Culmen
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
76
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Posted - 2012.06.05 05:35:00 -
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Guys, relax. I know precisely when the world will end.
It will end on December 31st, 9999.
This is the point where the Gregorian Calendar ENDS!! Signalling THE END OF THE COMMON ERA!!!!
I don't know how the Romans in the 5th century knew that the world would end on that day, but clearly they never planned for it, so that must be when the world ends. There is a fine line between a post and a signature. |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
151
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:27:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Riedle wrote:If the Mayans could actually predict the future...Shouldn't there still be Mayans? I doubt they were actually wiped out to the last man (genocide is not that easy and wasteful on top of it: who is going to work in the goldmines?) so I guess there are still a few around.
There is, of course, still Mayan DNA in a lot of people in Central America. The civilization, however, is long gone.
Also, the mayan civilization was gone 600 years prior to the genocidal flu bug was imported via the dirty white man in the 1500's -in regards to your inference wrt 'gold mines'.
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