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Inspect0r Cl0useau
Vandal Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.19 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Inspect0r Cl0useau on 19/08/2009 01:33:46 This console exclusive game should have ZERO IMPACT on the 6+ year old MMO known as EVE. It should have nothing to do with control of planets or sovereignty AT ALL.
EVE should remain one single game undivided.
DUST 514 should be an independent console based MMO in the EVE universe, not part of the current PC based EVE MMO in any way.
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vixxen Miner
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Posted - 2009.08.19 01:46:00 -
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Not supported!! Change is coming, you should adapt. It is stated in the EULA that game is subject to change.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.08.19 01:50:00 -
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Besides, imagine someday we get planetary bombardment in Eve.
The tears of all the 8-12 year olds, the tears dude!
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Davin Forsosa
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Posted - 2009.08.19 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Davin Forsosa on 19/08/2009 01:52:50
Originally by: vixxen Miner Not supported!! Change is coming, you should adapt. It is stated in the EULA that game is subject to change.
That doesn't mean fans should welcome radical change. What next, we should introduce Klingons to the world of EVE because the EULA says it can change? Please...
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vixxen Miner
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Davin Forsosa Edited by: Davin Forsosa on 19/08/2009 01:52:50
Originally by: vixxen Miner Not supported!! Change is coming, you should adapt. It is stated in the EULA that game is subject to change.
That doesn't mean fans should welcome radical change. What next, we should introduce Klingons to the world of EVE because the EULA says it can change? Please...
Actually that would be really cool. I would rather fly a bird of prey over a t3 ship.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan Besides, imagine someday we get planetary bombardment in Eve.
The tears of all the 8-12 year olds, the tears dude!
This. Oh god, this.
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vixxen Miner
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Omara Otawan Besides, imagine someday we get planetary bombardment in Eve.
The tears of all the 8-12 year olds, the tears dude!
This. Oh god, this.
The hilarity of that would be EPIC!
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Inspect0r Cl0useau
Vandal Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Inspect0r Cl0useau on 19/08/2009 02:18:01 Edited by: Inspect0r Cl0useau on 19/08/2009 02:17:10
Originally by: vixxen Miner Not supported!! Change is coming, you should adapt. It is stated in the EULA that game is subject to change.
SWG tried that. How's that NGE working out for them these days?
They had 300,000 subs back in 2004, just like EVE does today. They proceeded to radically change the game not once but TWICE in 2005, which led to them having less than 30K left today, even though the game is the same age as EVE. SOE and LucasArts have a reputation in the industry somewhere between that of politicians and radioactive waste.
RADICAL change in MMORPG games fails every time it's tried. In fact, the NGE is such a notorious event that it's generally accepted as the industry example of what NOT to do, what to NEVER do. The fact that CCP has failed to learn from that lesson is depressing. I thought they were the only MMO publisher who "got it". Apparently not.
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Ralmus Awsine
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:18:00 -
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Do not support.
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War Bear
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:22:00 -
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I think EVE and DUST is a good combination if done right BUT they need to make sure that PC players aren't left out in the cold. If this is going to be a pure console release then I completely agree, de-link it asap.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:34:00 -
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It has been stated that sovereignty will be decided by multiple factors, and we can assume DUST 514 will be but one of those. It is against your religious beliefs to talk to console players? Well, then do take sovereignty the hard way.
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vixxen Miner
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: vixxen Miner on 19/08/2009 02:45:15
Originally by: Inspect0r Cl0useau Edited by: Inspect0r Cl0useau on 19/08/2009 02:18:01 Edited by: Inspect0r Cl0useau on 19/08/2009 02:17:10
Originally by: vixxen Miner Not supported!! Change is coming, you should adapt. It is stated in the EULA that game is subject to change.
SWG tried that. How's that NGE working out for them these days?
They had 300,000 subs back in 2004, just like EVE does today. They proceeded to radically change the game not once but TWICE in 2005, which led to them having less than 30K left today, even though the game is the same age as EVE. SOE and LucasArts have a reputation in the industry somewhere between that of politicians and radioactive waste.
RADICAL change in MMORPG games fails every time it's tried. In fact, the NGE is such a notorious event that it's generally accepted as the industry example of what NOT to do, what to NEVER do. The fact that CCP has failed to learn from that lesson is depressing. I thought they were the only MMO publisher who "got it". Apparently not.
I know all about the NGE I was on the Kettemoor server. In fact one of my favorite videos was done by a relative about the NGE.(look up Darth Velveeta on you tube). The difference between the NGE and this, is that the actual game play is not going to change in eve ie pvp mechanics for ship to ship combat and such. EVE players will have the option of either playing DUST along with EVE to defend their territory or they can hire people from DUST to do it. Totally different from the NGE which got rid of most professions, turned the game into a point clicky mash mash, clicky mash mash, and made everyone conform to what soe thought was epic. The only thing this affects are alliances/corps who have sov, no more no less, and we don't know how easy it will be for these mercs to go into a system and attack a planet. To me it should be as easy as getting a transport ship past gate camp, and/or a fleet waiting there to intercept at a planet.
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Aethrwolf
Caldari Home for Wayward Gamers
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Posted - 2009.08.19 04:17:00 -
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not supported.. lets at least get more info before (over)reacting, shall we?
Inspector... please get some rest before you post more, 'cause you're beginning to sound a LOT like your namesake as far as intelligence is concerned. Speaking from experience.. posting while tired AND angry/upset/stressed.. etc, is a bad idea. you end up alienating people who may have agreed with you. And they dont forget it for a while. Absolutely everything is subjective. |
IronGoldenEagle
The Gauls
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Posted - 2009.08.19 04:31:00 -
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Cautious Support. I dont want to see years of work destroyed by a bunch of console playing asshats. If its part of a multi factor then yes I think Im ok with it. Lets get more info then get the pitchforks and torches
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Jessica Bains
Silicon Moon
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Posted - 2009.08.19 05:21:00 -
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I understand where this is coming from, even share much of those fears.
On the other hand I salute the idea and concept of Dust/Eve, IF DONE RIGHT!
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William ThyFoe
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Posted - 2009.08.19 05:38:00 -
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I really hope that my not owning of a console will impact the joy I have in eve. I'm not going to support this or be against it until more details are released however I hope CCP look after their current income stream as I know alot of player corps will be hugely annoyed if SOV depends on the skill of a console FPS.
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Cyzlak
Karkand Kampa
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Posted - 2009.08.19 05:45:00 -
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not supported. good thing they're changing **** up
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.19 06:11:00 -
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Not Supported for the following reasons:
1: Industry... massive explosion in Industry... we now supply arms... vehicles... supplies.. ferry troops... damn... I can smell the ISK... oh the joy
2: Planetary Bombardment and Space Artillery strikes? Oh the joy of being paid to respond to calling in strikes.
3: Corporations now span 2 entirely different worlds... this would be staggering to think of the possibilities!!!
4: EVE Online in all honesty has been in a increasing state of stagnation... now we have something that could blow the doors off... now we have something to interact with... "Walking in Space Stations" becomes justified. While we... the "Demigods" of EVE Online.. older players who pay for the privilege of flying in our ships... can directly intervine and affect changes on planets where these kids in there little xbox's and PS3's can shoot there brains out.... It's not a half bad idea honestly. My clan is really a multi-gaming one... hell I'd jump at the chance to dig into this.
5: The "Chicken littles" of EVE online unsubbing? Priceless... SO YES... PLEASE... protest and emo-rage-quit the damn game... can I has your stuff?
6: And last but not least... CCP has been working on this for 3 years... i don't care how loud you frakking scream... you don't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting them to change there mind... the amount of money invested in the project would be staggering.. so please... STFU And drop it before you embarrass yourself.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.19 08:26:00 -
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/signed, conditionally
If it's going to be a console-exclusive, that's just pure bull**** and it should have zero effect on EVE.
If it's going to be a PC game (with a proper PC version, not just a hack-job port), then I'm willing to wait and see more detail on the mechanics connecting Dust and EVE before commenting. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.19 08:48:00 -
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OMG, the tears on all the forums since the announcement is flowing hard.
Get over it. There is so many thread of whining and crying and most of them asking questions that were already answered if you actually watched the video and read the interview.
All you people all butt hurt over the game being console only is truely pathetic.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Gallente Scorpion Road Industry The Ascendent Dominion
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 19/08/2009 09:15:46
Originally by: Omara Otawan Besides, imagine someday we get planetary bombardment in Eve.
The tears of all the 8-12 year olds, the tears dude!
I wanted to support the OP but THIS^^ made me change my mind. BRING IT ON
On a serious note: I don't think DUST 514 will have some capital impact on EVE universe. It's just a marketing trick to sell more dust. (hmm "sell more dust" sounds appropriate)
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CommanderData211
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:24:00 -
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I don't have a problem with a separate game influencing, or being tied to EVE in any way, I just don't think that sovereignty should be one of those factors. I don't have a problem with it being console specific or anything like that, but why sovereignty?
Granted, CCP has stated that DUST gameplay is going to be only one of multiple elements contributing to sovereignty, but why have it at all? Why not make the connection something less incredibly impactful upon all current EVE players. I want to fight for my own space in the EVE universe, not have to contract it out to someone else, who may or may not be terrible at FPS's.
Make the interaction more like, you have goods at planet X and need them transported to planet Y. Send in the Mercs! We spend a lot of time maintaining our space and building it's infrastructure to have elements of that ownership skewed by an entirely new independent gamer base.
Now if it turns out that there are, say, 5 new ways of achieving sovereignty and holding it in a system and DUST is just one of them, this will leave 4 other IN EVE options to claim sovereignty. This still would leave the main EVE playerbase in true control, and planetary fighting would only sway the sovereignty in highly disputed systems. If however planetary fighting in DUST is the MAIN consideration for sovereignty levels, then I just have to ask why sacrifice EVE players direct involvement in shaping their space?
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:34:00 -
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not supported adapt or die
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Not Supported for the following reasons:
1: Industry... massive explosion in Industry... we now supply arms... vehicles... supplies.. ferry troops... damn... I can smell the ISK... oh the joy
2: Planetary Bombardment and Space Artillery strikes? Oh the joy of being paid to respond to calling in strikes.
3: Corporations now span 2 entirely different worlds... this would be staggering to think of the possibilities!!!
4: EVE Online in all honesty has been in a increasing state of stagnation... now we have something that could blow the doors off... now we have something to interact with... "Walking in Space Stations" becomes justified. While we... the "Demigods" of EVE Online.. older players who pay for the privilege of flying in our ships... can directly intervine and affect changes on planets where these kids in there little xbox's and PS3's can shoot there brains out.... It's not a half bad idea honestly. My clan is really a multi-gaming one... hell I'd jump at the chance to dig into this.
5: The "Chicken littles" of EVE online unsubbing? Priceless... SO YES... PLEASE... protest and emo-rage-quit the damn game... can I has your stuff?
6: And last but not least... CCP has been working on this for 3 years... i don't care how loud you frakking scream... you don't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting them to change there mind... the amount of money invested in the project would be staggering.. so please... STFU And drop it before you embarrass yourself.
/THREAD+NOT SUPPORTED
Frankly, I'm looking forward to being worshiped by console kittens. Is that so wrong? --Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Orakkus
Minmatar m3 Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.19 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Orakkus on 19/08/2009 13:23:41 I'm looking forward to intercepting troop transports long before they reach planet..
Oh, the joy of the screams of "WTFOMGHAX!!" in local...
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