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redstar8368
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: redstar8368 on 20/08/2009 21:47:09 epic cail guy is in one corp and the station and the ships he has around him are from another just kinda odd in my mind
and trying despratly not to whine but come on ccp i was reil looking forward to this epic arc and you have shut out a large number of players whith the standings limits
im just wondring your reasoning
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Paski
Malamutopian Research
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:59:00 -
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This is EvE. What part of everything you've done so far lead you to believe EvE is meant to be easy?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Paski This is EvE. What part of everything you've done so far lead you to believe EvE is meant to be easy?
Hey, this is the same forum where some keep having the face to ask for more income @L4 missions. This is just another "giev everything on safe plate" request. - Auditing and consulting
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Speedy Death
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:23:00 -
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im just wondering why when someone posts something ... the only responses they get are trolls being dumb and saying "you think they want it easy" no ..most the people stating there opinion dont think it should be "easy" but they also dont think it should be overly ******ed either. they have a good reason to be mad and frustrated with something they have been looking forward to for along time to come... i mean they have been doing missions how long? to get high standings with corperations and now they have to do the same missions they have been over and over and over again . for a new corperation none of us really even have had a second thought about... just so they can get something new out of mission running? id have to agree with them that it is a pretty dumb idea on ccp's side to put epic mission arcs pretty far off from everyones reach.. even tho im not a mission runner ... wouldnt it make sence to give the people that have been working towards missions most of there eve life a significant headstart on epic arc missions ... i mean it will take someone who doesnt do missions really at all just as long to get to them as the other mission runners... just my opinion... cause i just find it kinda fail that as a pvp pilot i can go work towards any of those corperations and get into epic arc missions as fast as my buddy that all he does is run missions all day.....just because the fact the epic missions are in some back alley corperation ccp decided to give them to......
p.s i know i know alot of rambling but hey.... gotta voice my opinion somewhere
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:28:00 -
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but CCP said they will have one arc for each race, therefore avoiding any standings issues.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:33:00 -
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i mean they have been doing missions how long? to get high standings with corperations and now they have to do the same missions they have been over and over and over again
No, they read guides and min maxed everything to avoid any possible unneeded effort.
No surprise that CCP would break the trend a bit. What did you want, to have "epic" lulz with epic agents in the corps everyone farm to death because it's the "best / easiest / quickest"? Yay I feel epic, I start another quest off Caldari Navy /unique snowflake. - Auditing and consulting
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Speedy Death
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
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i mean they have been doing missions how long? to get high standings with corperations and now they have to do the same missions they have been over and over and over again
No, they read guides and min maxed everything to avoid any possible unneeded effort.
No surprise that CCP would break the trend a bit. What did you want, to have "epic" lulz with epic agents in the corps everyone farm to death because it's the "best / easiest / quickest"? Yay I feel epic, I start another quest off Caldari Navy /unique snowflake.
ok good point... but just seems weird that they would go so far against the people that already mission run in my opinion... i personally just dont get it.. im sure they have there reasons... just seems to me they could of went about it a different way so that the already mission runners have a easier way of getting there....then again if they have been doing there storyline it shouldnt take TOOOO long... so i gess i have to put that into perspective
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:49:00 -
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I agree with the OP.
When they added the Orca, they should have given every player a free Orca in their hangar. Why the **** should they have to wait for manufacturers to produce them at a decent price when they had been waiting for so long?
Just because something was added doesn't mean you are entitled to it immediately once it's released. You have to put effort into it. For example, if you truly were looking forward to the arc, why not log onto the test server so you could see what corps the arcs were for?
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Dagobert Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:53:00 -
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I do aggree with the OP. Grinding standing just to be able to beginn an arc ist just stupid. I do not have 6.8 faction standing. I dont want to grind any standing for just just another few missions abd that doesnt have to do anything with getting everything served on a plate. Its not hard or difficult to get the required standing but its stupid and boring, it insults my intelect and that of every eve player.
Dag
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Masterkiller
Fear Factory
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:44:00 -
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Epic arc lvl4 missions are not intended for mission noobs. Please get your standings up and stop whining. thanks
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:14:00 -
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Finally, some content that makes my 9.95 Gallente faction standing mean something.
...this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne |
Bryionak Crinanass
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:33:00 -
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I have a 9.05 Caldari standing, but my effective standing with the caldari agent was 0.0. I did one mission for Expert Distribution so now my effective standing is 1.2 (Connections 3). So I have to grind up my standing with Expert Distribution to 6.8 or whatever? My faction standing doesn't matter?
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bryionak Crinanass I have a 9.05 Caldari standing, but my effective standing with the caldari agent was 0.0. I did one mission for Expert Distribution so now my effective standing is 1.2 (Connections 3). So I have to grind up my standing with Expert Distribution to 6.8 or whatever? My faction standing doesn't matter?
I don't think so - I think it relies solely on faction standing. Neither of my characters had any Brutor Tribe standing before I began, both can access the agent just fine thanks to their high Minmatar faction standing.
...this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne |
Bryionak Crinanass
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes I don't think so - I think it relies solely on faction standing. Neither of my characters had any Brutor Tribe standing before I began, both can access the agent just fine thanks to their high Minmatar faction standing.
So shouldn't my 9.05 Caldari standing allow me to talk to the Caldari agent?
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:45:00 -
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Someone else said the Caldari arc was temporarily disabled, I think.
...this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne |
Bryionak Crinanass
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:47:00 -
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Cool, I'll just wait then. I was about to start grinding faction, but if they are gonna fix it in a week or so, it will probably just be quicker to wait.
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MORRS
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:58:00 -
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Where do I find an arc missions and what are they? I have high standings with amarr and caldari..
Thanks
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Dagobert Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Masterkiller Edited by: Masterkiller on 21/08/2009 01:57:19 Epic arc lvl4 missions are not intended for mission noobs. Please get your standings up and stop whining. MANY THANKS! Those arcs are the bonus for experienced mission runners which worked hard to get their faction standings up. It's for players which have achieved something in this game. I think you have not, so no epic arcs for you!
Im not a mission noob, i can complete every level 4 mission with ease. Running endless missions is not an "achievment", its just stupid. Its not difficult nor challenging to get a high faction standing, ots only tendious and boring. Yes you can easily get a high faction standing in a few weeksends, but i refuse to do the same missions over and over again. Its insulting my intelect to do such things!
Dag
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Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dagobert Dog
Im not a mission noob, i can complete every level 4 mission with ease. Running endless missions is not an "achievment", its just stupid. Its not difficult nor challenging to get a high faction standing, ots only tendious and boring. Yes you can easily get a high faction standing in a few weeksends, but i refuse to do the same missions over and over again. Its insulting my intelect to do such things!
Well you and your insulted intellect can go do something else in EVE then. You recognize that you could achieve the standing required to access the epic arc missions in a few weekends of play, yet you refuse to do so out of... principle? That sounds both stupid and lazy to me, but then me and my 'intelect' are OK doing 'tendious' missions as an 'achievment'...
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redstar8368
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:13:00 -
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as i did say in my op i am trying not to whine i just whant to know ccp's reasoning for this i would realy like something with a bit more story to it if i wanted just the isk there are many ways to do it (spacelane and navy missions) but i want the arch for the feeling of being part of somthing bigger and thank you speedy for your support
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Soliscout
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Masterkiller Edited by: Masterkiller on 21/08/2009 01:57:19
Those arcs are the bonus for experienced mission runners It's for players which have achieved something in this game.
if looking up missions on eve survival and running the same missions over and over again for month, years even, is your definition of achievement...well then I dare to say your definition of achievement is "interesting" to say the least
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Oneiros IV
Stella Polaris.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Oneiros IV on 21/08/2009 17:13:14 EVE PvE is ******edly primitive and repetitive, anybody who gonna argue with that just got nothing to compare with. (EVE got another bright sides, pretty much everything besides pve)
Therefore such moves by CCP is the only way to make doing epic arc considerable achievement wich won't be forgotten in 2-3 days and will keep mediocre carebear busy for while, sucessful carebears got the necessary standings for a while anyway.
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