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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:05:00 -
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Fact: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
Myth: Eve Online is dying
FACT: Everything in Eve Online has a direct relationship to PVP
Myth: PVP is just shooting ships
FACT: For 0 inflation x needs to equal y where is x is sandcastles built and y is sand castles stomped
Myth: Building my own resources all by myself has no effect on anybody else
FACT: There are limited resources in Eve Online
Myth: Doing my own PVE does not take away opportunities from others
FACT: Emergent game play is a pillar of Eve Online's development and lore.
Myth: CCP should control player style
FACT: Eve Online high security space has been getting progressively safer for 36 months (since Apocrypha expansion)
Myth: Eve Online high security space is unplayable due to danger levels.
FACT: Inferno/Crucible changes restore the balance and tension between player styles that dominated Eve Online 2007-2009
Myth: Suicide ganking is too easy and has no consequences.
FACT: Every dog has its day and every dog will will fade away
Myth: CCP is owned by one alliance.
FACT: The playerbase needs to HTFU.
Myth: Eve Online is getting harder.
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lanyaie
303
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:07:00 -
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Fact: this thread is pointless
Myth: OP doesn't know much about the game
Fact: you are a butthurt npc alt not revealing his real main account name.
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:09:00 -
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Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:10:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online.
M0O did things that goons never could. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
258
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:13:00 -
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ModeratedToSilence wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. M0O did things that goons never could.
Except they did it with style, and its m0o.
Myth : Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
Fact: Goons are filling there coffers
Tal
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Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
518
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:13:00 -
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actually pretty good post
well done |
Knus'lar
Deep Void Industrial Group
T A B O O
19
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:14:00 -
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FACT:EVE is a submarine game.
MYTH:EVE is a spaceship game.
Im sorry, why exactly are we pointing out random things about this game? |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
258
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:15:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:actually pretty good post
well done
What ever your smoking can I have some 
Tal
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
193
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:16:00 -
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Another desperate attempt to shore up the bad-boy (and I do mean boy) image of Eve. Slogans are not facts. One player does not define reality for the rest. |
Knus'lar
Deep Void Industrial Group
T A B O O
19
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:17:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online.
FACT:You are a carebear, and your tears are good with steak.
MYTH: The game needs carebears for the economy and the game to work properly |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:19:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Another desperate attempt to shore up the bad-boy (and I do mean boy) image of Eve. Slogans are not facts. One player does not define reality for the rest.
The hypocrisy is thick in this one. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:27:00 -
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Knus'lar wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. FACT:You are a carebear, and your tears are good with steak. MYTH: The game needs carebears for the economy and the game to work properly
Myth:Im supposed to blow up others whenever Im online.
FACT:I enjoy doing something else. |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp
Acquisition Of Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:27:00 -
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MYTH: This is a thread with high-content, well-thought-out posts.
FACT: This is a thread with low-content, poorly-though-out posts.
MYTH: OP compared myths to facts in the right order.
FACT: I compared myths to facts in the right order.
MYTH: This thread is worth your time.
FACT: This thread is barely worth the time it took to write this post mocking the thread. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
552
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:40:00 -
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ModeratedToSilence wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. M0O did things that goons never could.
While they were exceptional pirates for their time, they've never reached the level of GoonFleet's organization and power.
Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt
Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
697
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:46:00 -
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Hmm, cant argue with anything the OP says, the facts are right and the myths are in fact just myths...
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Frederick Sanger
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:47:00 -
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Thank you for your support. We're doing our best to save Eve. You're welcome. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:48:00 -
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We need our avatars doing this to save eve!
"You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Knus'lar
Deep Void Industrial Group
T A B O O
22
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Posted - 2012.05.30 22:55:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:Knus'lar wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. FACT:You are a carebear, and your tears are good with steak. MYTH: The game needs carebears for the economy and the game to work properly Myth:Im supposed to blow up others whenever Im online. FACT:I enjoy doing something else.
MYTH:Other people care what you want.
FACT: People will blow you up regardless of if you want them to. |
Degren
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1096
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:01:00 -
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SAVE THE PIGEON! THIS NOBLE CREATURE IS UNABLE TO ADAPT TO HUMAN SOCIETY
btw, great post OP
You don't know |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:11:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. M0O did things that goons never could. Except they did it with style, and its m0o. Myth : Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY. Fact: Goons are filling there coffers Tal
Emergant gameplay as I perceive it is any gameplay that expands or alters the perimeters of normal gameplay styles.
1. It does not matter who creates emergant game play - it is created
2. It does not matter why players create emergant gameplay |
Nostradamouse Riraille
Blackreach.
SRS.
8
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:14:00 -
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Knus'lar wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online. FACT:You are a carebear, and your tears are good with steak. MYTH: The game needs carebears for the economy and the game to work properly
Fact: The game needs carebears for the economy.
Myth : The game does not need nullbears for the economy.
Come on, all this stuff is required. Both griefers and carebears
Also : myth: Hulkageddon is unavoidable, you will die to griefers while mining.
Fact just go into a quiet system and STFU? |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:16:00 -
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Degren wrote:SAVE THE PIGEON! THIS NOBLE CREATURE IS UNABLE TO ADAPT TO HUMAN SOCIETY
btw, great post OP
Very noble indeed. It-¦s very caring, constantly giving shlts on everything.
"You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:16:00 -
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Myths: Busted.
Facts: Confirmed. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:16:00 -
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Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:
Fact: The game needs carebears for the economy.
Myth : The game does not need nullbears for the economy.
Come on, all this stuff is required. Both griefers and carebears
Also : myth: Hulkageddon is unavoidable, you will die to griefers while mining.
Fact just go into a quiet system and STFU?
Please explain why the game needs carebears and nullbears. Please note to facilitate a clear and consice explanation the definitions of the terms nullbears and carebears need to be clarified. |
Nostradamouse Riraille
Blackreach.
SRS.
8
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:21:00 -
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There are absolutely 0 material obsolescence, ships don't wreck themselves, they do not break down, they do not need to go for mechanical checkups every 12 months, they simply lay there, completely ignoring the test of time. They will last forever.
This brings us to the point of the evergrowing ammount of hulks and heavy duty ships like those in high security areas that simply won't die if nobody provokes it. It is quite obvious that you won't lose a ship by bumping an iceberg...
So, for this reason, those ships invulnerability need a fix for the production of such ships to continue. The fix required for this are the griefers. This is why griefers are required. Griefers make the economy run as well as the carebears are by building the stuff that gets blown up.
And ****, do I really have to define null seccers, carebears and griefers? Learn those yourself.
Get real guys, it is the way of the eve economics. Ships need to be build and blown up for the economy not to fall to the ground.
See the blowing up of your ship as "planned obsolescence". Same thing your damn washing machine's manufacturer did when he sold it to you. It's probably why it's leaking all over the floor atm. |
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2012.05.31 00:34:00 -
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Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:There are absolutely 0 material obsolescence, ships don't wreck themselves, they do not break down, they do not need to go for mechanical checkups every 12 months, they simply lay there, completely ignoring the test of time. They will last forever.
This brings us to the point of the evergrowing ammount of hulks and heavy duty ships like those in high security areas that simply won't die if nobody provokes it. It is quite obvious that you won't lose a ship by bumping an iceberg...
So, for this reason, those ships invulnerability need a fix for the production of such ships to continue. The fix required for this are the griefers. This is why griefers are required. Griefers make the economy run as well as the carebears are by building the stuff that gets blown up.
And ****, do I really have to define null seccers, carebears and griefers? Learn those yourself.
Get real guys, it is the way of the eve economics. Ships need to be build and blown up for the economy not to fall to the ground.
See the blowing up of your ship as "planned obsolescence". Same thing your damn washing machine's manufacturer did when he sold it to you. It's probably why it's leaking all over the floor atm.
QFT
For life to grow and blossom it needs death.
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ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2012.05.31 02:31:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:
Fact: you are a butthurt npc alt not revealing his real main account name.
Heh.
Na my main is permabanned from posting here. Has been for a long long time. I am not butt hurt. I am currently enjoying the increasing climate of fear that some in high sec are embracing. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
148
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Posted - 2012.05.31 02:40:00 -
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ModeratedToSilence wrote:Fact: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
Myth: Eve Online is dying
FACT: Everything in Eve Online has a direct relationship to PVP
Myth: PVP is just shooting ships
FACT: For 0 inflation x needs to equal y where is x is sandcastles built and y is sand castles stomped
Myth: Building my own resources all by myself has no effect on anybody else
FACT: There are limited resources in Eve Online
Myth: Doing my own PVE does not take away opportunities from others
FACT: Emergent game play is a pillar of Eve Online's development and lore.
Myth: CCP should control player style
FACT: Eve Online high security space has been getting progressively safer for 36 months (since Apocrypha expansion)
Myth: Eve Online high security space is unplayable due to danger levels.
FACT: Inferno/Crucible changes restore the balance and tension between player styles that dominated Eve Online 2007-2009
Myth: Suicide ganking is too easy and has no consequences.
FACT: Every dog has its day and every dog will will fade away
Myth: CCP is owned by one alliance.
FACT: The playerbase needs to HTFU.
Myth: Eve Online is getting harder.
Do you have any facts to support your myth?
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.05.31 02:46:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:actually pretty good post
well done What ever your smoking can I have some Tal
I bought some **** called train wreak, and its ******* expensive, and no you cant have none.
I offer the peace pipe quite a few times and people just spit in my face. So I quit sharing. Shame for a game with such an diverse amount of people against the peace pipe, makes me wanna smoke just to feel better.  |
Torvin Yulus
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.31 02:48:00 -
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Im glad I do level 2 missions so I cant get ganked now. |
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