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Sybilla Prior
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:39:00 -
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I've been away from Eve for a bit and noticed that Stealth Bombers nolonger use cruise missles, but now use torpedoes instead. Did this increase their usefullness or decrease it? What's the maximum dps for a single volley for cruise missles versus torpedoes?
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techzer0
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:40:00 -
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They got cov-ops cloaks as well... ------------
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:42:00 -
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IMO, it made them better as they can add a little bite to a recon gang against larger ships, whilst the recons can hit the smaller ships well.
They also get to use a cov-ops cloak which is very useful. ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!) |
fox weik
Caldari Caucasian Culture Club
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:43:00 -
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first off DPS and volley are complete opposites, second, torps will do more alpha if painted right, though for max alpha, torps + bombs, your looking at something like 12k raw dmg
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Sybilla Prior
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: fox weik first off DPS and volley are complete opposites, second, torps will do more alpha if painted right, though for max alpha, torps + bombs, your looking at something like 12k raw dmg
and with Cruise missles, that would have been how much?
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Sybilla Prior
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:47:00 -
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What was the main idea behind the change from cruise missle to torpedoes?
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sybilla Prior What was the main idea behind the change from cruise missle to torpedoes?
eeeegads! YOUR HAIR!
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Mystical Dawn
Minmatar Nomadic Angels
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sybilla Prior What was the main idea behind the change from cruise missle to torpedoes?
Bomber. Google that word and you might find out the meaning of that word.
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Baillif
Red Mist Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 03:16:00 -
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They suck, don't ever use them. You can't kill a thing in em.
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Hidden Snake
Caldari More-Cowbell
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Posted - 2009.08.22 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Baillif They suck, don't ever use them. You can't kill a thing in em.
lol troll
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sybilla Prior I've been away from Eve for a bit and noticed that Stealth Bombers nolonger use cruise missles, but now use torpedoes instead. Did this increase their usefullness or decrease it? What's the maximum dps for a single volley for cruise missles versus torpedoes?
They're extremely awesome now. You can get over 4k volley damage. 600 DPS is not unatainable. Also bombs are cheaper, the ships got a good bit more fitting and of course the covops cloak.
Bombers aren't much vs small ships, but if you want to kill small ships use eg: any other class of frigate. The classic bomber role now is DPS for a force recon.
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Nel Tu
Minmatar The Interstellar Cupcake Company
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:59:00 -
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Old Stealth bomber:
Target: Meh, it's an SB.
vs.
New stealth bomber:
Target: OH **** OH **** OH ****!
Funny, cause we were discussing in the C&P channel about a group of SB's that cynoed in on a small gang. The words "OH ****" are a direct quote, not a fabrication.
I love my stealth bomber. ==============
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DraconisAlpha
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:02:00 -
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SB changed a lot. You have to play with a tackler because you cannot one-shoot anything, your favourite targets changed from cruisers/frigates to battlecruisers/battleships and...the most important thing...you are nomore immortal! If before apoc you could uncloack, target, fire, hide and you couldn't be targeted by anyone in theese 5 secs, now you have a 15 sec delay on re-cloaking, that means you have to uncloack, target, DAMPEN!, fire, fire, cloak. It is quite different because now you must really fear ceptors, recon ships and snipers.
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Sybilla Prior
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:04:00 -
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If you cloak while your torps are still in flight, will they still do damage?
So solo-pvp in this ship is nolonger a valid tactic under any circumstances then?
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Rockingfella
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:12:00 -
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I don't suppose it would be possible to fit with a bunch of target painters and still 1 or 2 shot cruisers?
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Zeerover
DeadSpace Exploration and Investigations
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sybilla Prior What was the main idea behind the change from cruise missle to torpedoes?
Here it is, in all it's 57 page glory
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:18:00 -
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Take a look at some of capitals ganks taking place with the new bombers involved, they are almost always near the top in damage .. downright scary output.
The cruise bombers were used as a swiss army knife, equally good against any and all targets. CCP decided to focus them more and gave them covert+torps, making them lethal against cruiser (webbed/painted) and up. Torp bombers are more fun to fly and actually feared by bigger ships/gangs due to their damage potential whereas the cruise bombers were left for drones to feed on and otherwise ignored.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nel Tu Funny, cause we were discussing in the C&P channel about a group of SB's that cynoed in on a small gang. The words "OH ****" are a direct quote, not a fabrication.
I never said "OH ****" I said "GF!!!"
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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BuckStrider
Wreckless Abandon Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Baillif They suck, don't ever use them. You can't kill a thing in em.
Confirming that bombers totally suck and are useless*
(* except against Battleships, Battlecrusiers, and webbed Crusiers/HACs/Recons)
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:20:00 -
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The main point of the revamp was to make them useful for practical battle situations but without making them into invulnerable solo killers.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.08.22 15:54:00 -
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I really like stealth bombers they are great for killmail whoring between primaries when your flying a sniping HAC just lock a few up and insta pop it before you switch targets.
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Friggz
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Nel Tu Funny, cause we were discussing in the C&P channel about a group of SB's that cynoed in on a small gang. The words "OH ****" are a direct quote, not a fabrication.
I never said "OH ****" I said "GF!!!"
Posting to confirm Stealth Bombers are useless.
And thanks for the video, Lexa, its cool to see it from the other point of view.
gf o7
________________________________________________ Love, Friggz
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DraconisAlpha
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:34:00 -
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Useless?
They have more dps than a bs and can strike, cloak, strike, cloak...
if you find one of them when you are in a bs and you don't have any ceptor with you you are dead.
Think what a 10man gang with 6sb, 2 falcon, 1 rapier and 1 ceptor can do...they have a firepower of 6bs and the agility of a cov ops gang
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Friggz
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: DraconisAlpha
Think what a 10man gang with 6sb, 2 falcon, 1 rapier and 1 ceptor can do...they have a firepower of 6bs and the agility of a cov ops gang
This would never work. ________________________________________________ Love, Friggz
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Sybilla Prior
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Nel Tu Funny, cause we were discussing in the C&P channel about a group of SB's that cynoed in on a small gang. The words "OH ****" are a direct quote, not a fabrication.
I never said "OH ****" I said "GF!!!"
In that video, where those bombs or torpedoes they fired at you?
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 22/08/2009 19:39:49
Originally by: Sybilla Prior In that video, where those bombs or torpedoes they fired at you?
Torpedoes.
That was the new torpedo bombers being cynoed in by a Black Ops battleship using the Covert Bridge. If the Arazu had opened the cyno off grid you would have just seen a bunch of bombers decloak and start firing, (CovOpCyno does not show on overview unless on grid). That video shows just fast a bomber pack can be deployed and start dealing damage when it is coordinated.
With damps and target painters a bomber pack like that can drop damn near anything before they are even locked, evil little buggers now
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Bazuka
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Posted - 2009.08.22 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Bazuka on 22/08/2009 21:13:22
Well, on paper (EFT) with 5% implants + overload Purifier can go over 1k DPS And this is with a rigor and 3 posible painters. Kind of silly for a frigate heh. And I can actualy put this theoretical fit to use in PVE, as a support dps alt in L5s for example. ___________
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