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vinnymcg
Stellar Running INC
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Posted - 2009.08.23 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: vinnymcg on 23/08/2009 00:59:23 One of the first things a hacker will do is change the account email thus preventing the real account holder from resetting the password. CCP should ban the changing of email addresses and set up an outside system for changing your email, a system which is human controlled and you must provide a valid reason for changing.
It is a temporary solution and people will still have their accounts wiped of isk and items but at least they will still have their character.
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:04:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Sakura on 23/08/2009 01:05:19
Originally by: vinnymcg Edited by: vinnymcg on 23/08/2009 00:59:23 One of the first things a hacker will do is change the account email thus preventing the real account holder from resetting the password. CCP should ban the changing of email addresses and set up an outside system for changing your email, a system which is human controlled and you must provide a valid reason for changing.
It is a temporary solution and people will still have their accounts wiped of isk and items but at least they will still have their character.
I was thinking exact same thing today , you should be able to make a main email addy and a secondary incase primary email addy dies as they do if not used and thats it ... as in my case when my email was changed while i was at work oblivious it totally ruined any chances of password retrieval for me , or atleast put a 24h timer or wait on it or even an alternate email address for the eve-o site .
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vinnymcg
Stellar Running INC
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:07:00 -
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LOL it was the tread about you getting kicked that gave me the idea. But your addition to the idea is much better. I'm not sure if everyone would have a secondary email but I'm sure it would be easy enough for people to set up.
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Sakura on 23/08/2009 01:11:43
Originally by: vinnymcg LOL it was the tread about you getting kicked that gave me the idea. But your addition to the idea is much better. I'm not sure if everyone would have a secondary email but I'm sure it would be easy enough for people to set up.
Im sickened tbh , and my petitions getting totally stonewalled , i dont see how 3 25m sp accounts being possibly sold as we speak not taking precedence over someone throwing an emo rage about losing a punisher to docking lag , if its ignored much longer CCP can kiss my 45euro a month subs byebye back to uni soon anyway , just abit dissapointed tbh byebye Roleplay//Myth Lander//Curb smile etc
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:15:00 -
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Wow and i just noticed 2 of my 3 mains log on and it aint me , thans a bunch CCP
Also Hi Myth Lander and Curb Smile , how is your new poss treating ya ??? good ?
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:30:00 -
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Evil - That sucks. How did you get hacked?
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
Evil - That sucks. How did you get hacked?
One of my best friends msn accounts got hacked and he didnt tell me so i clicked a link in a email he sent me , he sends me funny games pics and stuff sometimes and a keylogger was embedded in the link or on something on the site , i knew instantly it was a bogus site but damage was done :(
Im not a pc noob , sometimes your guard is just down with friends
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vinnymcg
Stellar Running INC
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:38:00 -
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Sorry guys your getting a little off topic. There is already a tread dealing with his account being hacked
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: vinnymcg Sorry guys your getting a little off topic. There is already a tread dealing with his account being hacked
I was replying to a question and look above for my imput if you need relevance
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.23 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Sakura Im not a pc noob , sometimes your guard is just down
These two lines are mutually exclusive.
Whatever you did, you deserve it you isk buying cheater.
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Kewso
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Posted - 2009.08.23 02:45:00 -
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.08.23 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: vinnymcg It is a temporary solution and people will still have their accounts wiped of isk and items but at least they will still have their character.
So basically it is a solution that doesn't actually solve anything.
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Ukucia
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.23 03:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ukucia on 23/08/2009 03:51:07
Originally by: vinnymcg Edited by: vinnymcg on 23/08/2009 00:59:23 One of the first things a hacker will do is change the account email thus preventing the real account holder from resetting the password. CCP should ban the changing of email addresses and set up an outside system for changing your email, a system which is human controlled and you must provide a valid reason for changing.
It is a temporary solution and people will still have their accounts wiped of isk and items but at least they will still have their character.
So, you propose a temporary solution to a permanent problem......ok.
Next, it's not exactly clear how your 'manual' process would stop other people from changing your email.
A far better solution is to send out an email to the _old_ address saying "your email was just changed. If it wasn't you, reply to this email, yadda yadda yadda.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Sakura
Originally by: dr doooo
Evil - That sucks. How did you get hacked?
One of my best friends msn accounts got hacked and he didnt tell me so i clicked a link in a email he sent me , he sends me funny games pics and stuff sometimes and a keylogger was embedded in the link or on something on the site , i knew instantly it was a bogus site but damage was done :(
Im not a pc noob , sometimes your guard is just down with friends
What the hell? You instantly knew that you had just downloaded a keylogger onto your computer and chose to do nothing about it and continue logging in to whatever games/sites you normally use without purging the malware/virus from your system? WTH where you thinking??
The damage was not done. There was no way they could get your info from just having a keylogger on your system. A keylogger logs keystrokes... You have to type in your passwords for them to get them. You knew you had a keylogger installed and you proceeded to type in your username and password for multiple accounts... YOU FAIL!! However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.23 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Evil Sakura
Originally by: dr doooo
Evil - That sucks. How did you get hacked?
One of my best friends msn accounts got hacked and he didnt tell me so i clicked a link in a email he sent me , he sends me funny games pics and stuff sometimes and a keylogger was embedded in the link or on something on the site , i knew instantly it was a bogus site but damage was done :(
Im not a pc noob , sometimes your guard is just down with friends
What the hell? You instantly knew that you had just downloaded a keylogger onto your computer and chose to do nothing about it and continue logging in to whatever games/sites you normally use without purging the malware/virus from your system? WTH where you thinking??
The damage was not done. There was no way they could get your info from just having a keylogger on your system. A keylogger logs keystrokes... You have to type in your passwords for them to get them. You knew you had a keylogger installed and you proceeded to type in your username and password for multiple accounts... YOU FAIL!!
confirming epic stupidity. if something like that happened to me.. first thing id do is pull out the internet (well, flip the switch on the side of my laptop ^^ ) second thing.. full reformat.
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Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.08.23 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Sakura Im sickened tbh , and my petitions getting totally stonewalled
Bolded the part that explains why your are getting 'stonewalled'. You are spamming petitions over this and wonder why the queues are so long? I sure hope for every unneded additional petition you send in your whole case gets dropped to the bottom of the pile. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Evil Sakura Im sickened tbh , and my petitions getting totally stonewalled
Bolded the part that explains why your are getting 'stonewalled'. You are spamming petitions over this and wonder why the queues are so long? I sure hope for every unneded additional petition you send in your whole case gets dropped to the bottom of the pile.
This. -----
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Evil Sakura Im sickened tbh , and my petitions getting totally stonewalled
Bolded the part that explains why your are getting 'stonewalled'. You are spamming petitions over this and wonder why the queues are so long? I sure hope for every unneded additional petition you send in your whole case gets dropped to the bottom of the pile.
I sent 1 petition its the messages that are being ignored
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Sakura
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Evil Sakura Im sickened tbh , and my petitions getting totally stonewalled
Bolded the part that explains why your are getting 'stonewalled'. You are spamming petitions over this and wonder why the queues are so long? I sure hope for every unneded additional petition you send in your whole case gets dropped to the bottom of the pile.
I sent 1 petition its the messages that are being ignored
I see. Plural is the new singular. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Evil Sakura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Sakura on 23/08/2009 11:08:15
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Evil Sakura
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Evil Sakura Im sickened tbh , and my petitions getting totally stonewalled
Bolded the part that explains why your are getting 'stonewalled'. You are spamming petitions over this and wonder why the queues are so long? I sure hope for every unneded additional petition you send in your whole case gets dropped to the bottom of the pile.
I sent 1 petition its the messages that are being ignored
I see. Plural is the new singular.
Only reason i keep sending mesages is coz i want my 2 accounts reloked and ill wait as long as it takes in line i have to sit ingame with no responce as my 2x 25m sp industrialists log on and off on subs im paying as they chage corps and sell off billions of my assets and the only reason the can do this is because ccp's password retrival system sux and gave the account hacker my accounts back after they were locked , its ridiculous tbh
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:15:00 -
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Or they implement change methods as seen elsewhere as well, when you want to change email, a confirmation is sent to the CURRENT email where you need to confirm the change. Thus it would be harder to change email unless they hack your email as well.
Of course this method is void if you lost your email account already, thus you'd really need to contact customer support anyway to get it sorted.
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Orion GUardian on 23/08/2009 13:37:39 Another solution: unique pssword devices, like you can get them for alot fo software and accounts.....just a device that chnges your apssword every two minutes or so and you need to have the thing itself to know the pw...
inb4 flame: I know you can get something like that for WoW
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Vyktrr
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Posted - 2009.08.23 15:08:00 -
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Make it need a phone call. Next time Joe (xD) goes to change his email, they call him, and when the people up on the other end chime up speakign engrish "Herro, happy day I wish to pleasently password change of email?" LOCKDOWN!
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 15:26:00 -
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I would like to see separate, forum and account passwords. Plus, something along the lines of what Chribba suggested.
I would even pay for a password dongle, if CCP were to offer that feature.
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Strak Yogorn
Amarr Mind Warpers
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:28:00 -
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or maybe ppl should stop being stupid idiots and not click "funny" links, even from friends. no need for all kinds of smart password gadgets etc, just common sense (and maybe use the brain once in a while) ...
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:41:00 -
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But password Gadgets are cool -.-'
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vinnymcg
Stellar Running INC
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ukucia Edited by: Ukucia on 23/08/2009 03:51:07
Originally by: vinnymcg Edited by: vinnymcg on 23/08/2009 00:59:23 One of the first things a hacker will do is change the account email thus preventing the real account holder from resetting the password. CCP should ban the changing of email addresses and set up an outside system for changing your email, a system which is human controlled and you must provide a valid reason for changing.
It is a temporary solution and people will still have their accounts wiped of isk and items but at least they will still have their character.
So, you propose a temporary solution to a permanent problem......ok.
Next, it's not exactly clear how your 'manual' process would stop other people from changing your email.
A far better solution is to send out an email to the _old_ address saying "your email was just changed. If it wasn't you, reply to this email, yadda yadda yadda.
Good point you win Didn't think of that tbh. But to edit your idea a little make it so you have to wait 24 hours to change an email and durring that time an email is sent to your original account stating that the change has been requested.
Although just nowI am thinking that this will casue the hackers to just hack our email accounts but I'm sure i would slow them.
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