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CCP Gnauton
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Posted - 2009.08.24 14:07:00 -
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A shift has begun in the Gallente Federation. A recent succession of political disasters has weakened President Foiritan's position to the point of utter collapse, and other forces have begun rising from the shadows in this trying time for a beleaguered Federation. "The Human Painting" tells of one such political disaster, and a behind-the-scenes meeting of minds which precipitates a turning point in Gallente history.
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Tasha Voronina
Caldari Caldari Navy Reserve Force
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Posted - 2009.08.24 14:41:00 -
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Nice story. --- Sig will be updated shortly |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:16:00 -
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Interesting. Finally some more information about the Roden takeover. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:51:00 -
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Wow, is that Roden there in the pic? Don't think I'd vote for him...
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:04:00 -
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Not a huge fan of the name, but I am a fan of the description of his jaw.
Guess Roden's a shoo-in, yeh? Or not... -- EVE Blog EVE Twitter |
Sakari Orisi
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:07:00 -
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I like, I like very much.
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Kaito Haakkainen
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores Also, the official name of the Gallente Federation is the 'Federated Union of Gallente Prime'? Nice...
Very nice... I'd go so far as beautiful when considered alongside what is known of the Federations history.
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javer
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:13:00 -
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nice way of filling in some back story of eve :-)
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RAIDEN TEYREL
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:49:00 -
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Yep very nice, a good read, shows just how downright sneaky, underhand, megalomanical these Gallente can be
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CCP Gnauton
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tasha Voronina Nice story.
Whoops, thank you. Original post edited.
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Manfred Rickenbocker
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:35:00 -
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Its about time someone fought back against the nationalization efforts of the Gallente governing body. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times. |
apothnasko
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:53:00 -
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The government is only there to serve the Gallente corps by keeping the peace. Long live Capitolism. Up yours politicians. |
Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:18:00 -
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Good one!
See, here is the back-handedness, the megalomaniacal manipulation, the pulling of invisible strings we all so love and admire in the Federation. It's smart, intellectual, and entrepreneurial, yet at the same time dark, ruthless, and duplicitous. Finally the Federation shows that it can stand-up to simple-minded heavy-handedness and oppression through a battle of wits between suave mass-murderers in an political arena where appearances count as much as results.
Still, old Jacky doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of taking the top job. With all the skeletons in his closet, he'd give the Scope a field day of exposures of such proportions that not even old Jacky would be able to put the lid on (the competition holds a minority share in the Scope after all).
The Gallentean loves a good gossip, and there has been plenty of gossip on Jacky Roden. Given that old Jacky likes playing the man behind the curtain so much, his candidacy can only be a smokescreen to allow a favourite of his to eventually take the throne. Meanwhile old Jacky can do the patriotic thing and make room for the one he really wants to take the seat, thus healing the wounds his endemic stealing of top researchers from his competitors must have caused, and take his rightful (in his opinion) place as the bringer together of the military-industrial complex. The other arms-dealers may be with him against nationalising their business, but let's not forget that Roden is a bit of an outlier in the Gallentean military-industrial complex, and not one they would extend support to necessarily. Stepping back, on the other hand, should be enough for his favourite to clinch the race, as it did in different circumstances in the previous presidential race, while still giving him the influence he so clearly craves.
Still, it is great to see the imitation-Caldari Black Eagles being so completely and gracefully outmanoeuvred by such an old robber-baron like good old Jacky Roden. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
MechaMouse
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:26:00 -
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Best Chronicle in a long while. It made sense. It was relevant to current events.
More like this please!
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Xing Fey
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:37:00 -
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Yay, happy chronicles, maybe the federation can go back to democracy, then again, I wouldn't hold out much hope...
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Bel Ortesma
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:33:00 -
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Terrific.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Citation Registration Commission
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:57:00 -
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Meh.
Nationalizing the arms industry and FINALLY doing something against the Caldari was the first and only good thing Foiritan did.
And this Roden doesn't have any appeal to me either. There needs to be an unmistakable Good Guy as president so the Gallente are once again the beacon of all that is good and just in the EVE universe. Anything less will just make them another Caldari flavor, there needs to be more to set the Gallente apart from the Caldari.
Gallente = Freedom, democracy, complex culture, wealth for joe average, happy happy joy. Caldari = Extreme capitalism, militarism, dark tyranny and oppression of the individual. ---
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davidnorell
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:41:00 -
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This is just the opening chapter, it will be interesting where this leads. Is this the start of a new story arc where there are new opportunities or is it just a dead end story?
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:44:00 -
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poor blake, things aren't going that well for him. ------------------------------
Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah There needs to be an unmistakable Good Guy as president so the Gallente are once again the beacon of all that is good and just in the EVE universe. Anything less will just make them another Caldari flavor, there needs to be more to set the Gallente apart from the Caldari.
I do hope you're being ironic. Sadly, however, I fear you are serious.
EVE has never had any good guys. The general structure of the Federation just happens to mesh quite well with what we'd expect from a modern civilized nation.
In reality it's not so great, and I'm happy that the cracks are showing.
Sure, even in a setting of 'Shades of Gray' you need lighter and darker shades. That doesn't mean that the Federation should be, or was ever, "the beacon of all that is good and just." -----
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Nationalizing the arms industry and FINALLY doing something against the Caldari was the first and only good thing Foiritan did.
And this Roden doesn't have any appeal to me either. There needs to be an unmistakable Good Guy as president so the Gallente are once again the beacon of all that is good and just in the EVE universe. Anything less will just make them another Caldari flavor, there needs to be more to set the Gallente apart from the Caldari.
Gallente = Freedom, democracy, complex culture, wealth for joe average, happy happy joy. Caldari = Extreme capitalism, militarism, dark tyranny and oppression of the individual.
Umm...
Freedom allows for extreme capitalism, which allows for wealth for the average joe.
Democracy leads to tyranny and oppression of individualism and can just as easily lead to militarism.
Complex cultures are basically any culture you both to look into beyond a quick glance.
I suggest you go read background more thoroughly and try to understand the interaction between the Caldari and Gallente in a more detached way.
Nationalization of the arms industry is basically what Tibus Heth did over a year ago and yet you are arguing for it in order for there to be "an unmistakable Good Guy as president so the Gallente are once again the beacon of all that is good and just in the EVE universe. Anything less will just make them another Caldari flavor, there needs to be more to set the Gallente apart from the Caldari."
What sets the Gallente apart is the individual freedom you spoke of and this is exactly what Roden was securing. In the State, especially now, Heth says build X item and the Megas, due to handing over their strategic assets, answer "How many?" The Gallente corps saying "NO" speaks volumes of the Gallente cultures resistance to blatant and public tyranny and oppression.
The other option is to allow EvE to degenerate into an Alliance vs. Horde, Jedi vs. Sith, Good vs Evil, story which will likely cause the departure of more than a few veteran players.
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Xing Fey
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:53:00 -
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One must keep in mind that both the Caldari and Gallente are the opposite of what they claim to be. The Caldari State practices a form of extreme comunism, stalinism even; and the Gallente federation is best compared to Ninteen Eighty-Four.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.08.25 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xing Fey One must keep in mind that both the Caldari and Gallente are the opposite of what they claim to be. The Caldari State practices a form of extreme comunism, stalinism even; and the Gallente federation is best compared to Ninteen Eighty-Four.
Simplifying them in such a way fails to appreciate the complexity in both.
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XnS dVd
Amarr Amarr Investment Group
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Posted - 2009.08.25 06:31:00 -
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Why... does the corporal seem to be telling the sergeant what to do though? I am a boy, not till i have lived and died will i be a man. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:00:00 -
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Well, USUALLY when a military industrial complex exerts control, freedom is lost. Roden may have saved the Federation that day. This is strange.
These events should have some real reflection on the game itself, being more than just a story. Would have been nice to fly over to Roden Shipyards stations and take down the Gallente Troop ships. Sure the Black Eagles were following orders but that is never an excuse to step all over private property rights without due process.
That's something for the the Caldari to do.
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john rolen
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:25:00 -
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nice story I like how it fits into the current events happening now in the federation I was getting curious as to where things were headed. It's inturesting actually how this story is one of those that shows bouth the strengths and weaknesses of a so called "free" nation.
What roden did was certainly dark and clever hes the kind of intelectual you do not want to meet because the fact of the matter is he is always one step ahead or so it would seam. As well what he did may have very well saved the federation but i cant wait to hear about the other events as they move forward.
When you look at it its funny how completly different yet somewhat similar the caldari and the gallente are. Not so much on the outward level but when you get into the dark relms of politics and the pupet masters in the backround you start to see there similarities.
All in all good story cant wait for the next.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.25 08:09:00 -
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Yeah Roden saving the Federation, riiight. He done what was best for his business and him. If you read carefuly the entire show was run by Roden and gallente megacorps. That means galllente just becomed like caldari in pre-Heth era.
President was just a muppet who cant run the show without megacorps. Sadly Foritain didnt realised. Now Gallente will pay the ultimate price. Internal conflicts+new election. Caldari probably have prime time.
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.08.25 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: XnS dVd Why... does the corporal seem to be telling the sergeant what to do though?
Because he's the man on the spot? All modern military systems, from the general staff of the German Empire onwards recognise that slavishly following orders is counter productive and that encouraging initiative and the freedom to act within a well-established and uniformly taught command system is needed to react appropriately and timely to a changing combat environment. In fact, such a necessity was already recognised in Clausewitz's time, as such a freedom of action reduces battlefield friction, and allows the attainment of victory in the fog of war. I could go on describing the reasons for why this is necessary, but basically it is an accurate description of what is happening daily on the modern battlefield today. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:02:00 -
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Regarding the differences and similarities of the Caldari State and the Gallente Federation, it is simplistic to assume the former is authoritarian and evil, and the latter is a paragon of freedom and good.
Both are very similar yet at the same time very different from each other. The similarities stem from a shared history, the differences from a different way of achieving things.
The Caldari state for example is well-organised and hierarchical, with different mega-corporations making up the different powerblocks with relatively limited movement in stance. A Caldari is where he was born and to what mega-corporation was born in. Faction loyalty is inbred, absolute and inflexible. You are what you are, and that's that. In order to excel they employ the institutional fall-guy system for when mistakes are make, someone who takes the blame for all, but is looked after well enough to make sure that no too big a fuzz is me. But at the same time they use the Japanese-type advancement system, where younger employees, to a certain extend, are expected to challenge and compete with the established power structure, for the good of the whole. They trade-in personal freedoms for personal (job) security, leaving them more time to devote to the general advancement of society along hierarchical lines. Although everyone kisses arse upwards while kicking savagely downwards, there is an overall competitiveness and meritocracy build within the system that makes it overall very efficient if somewhat cumbersome.
The Gallente Federation in many aspects is the complete opposite, and arrives at the same situation in a different way. As reflected in the chronicle, the predominant feature is personal freedom, which comes at the cost of overall chaos that can be difficult to control. The name of the game is personal advancement at whatever cost to others in society, which certainly is competitive, but has a tendency to leave citizens to fend for themselves. No job security for the Gallentean. As the Caldari, the Gallenteans are capticalistic, perhaps even more so, but do without the advancement of the whole, emphasising self-interest as a means for raising the bar generally. Deregulation and a constant state of flux while individuals strive for position is both a boon to personal advancement and a drawback for those who fall through the cracks. Lacking the Caldari benign tolerance for advancement of the junior official, power and influence in the Federation need to be wrested from the top dogs, and while the climb can be hard and fast, the fall can be as well. Under such circumstances, it is only natural that everything is about appearances and politics, as in order to reduce risk of failure, marriages of convenience to further oneself are natural, and you only back an upstart when he appears to be a winner, and you expect to gain something by doing so. And this is where all the corporations and powerblocks stem from in the Federation. And it also explains the government system and why propaganda is so important. Whereas the Caldari are all about the silent opposition and obstructive cooperation, the Gallente are about the back-dealing challenge and the empty promise.
Some keywords to remember: Caldari: the common good, meritocracy, institutional fall-guy, established hierarchical structure, and efficiency Gallente: self-interest, personal freedom, cut-throat competition, deregulated capitalism, and flexibility
So as you see, neither are good, both have their evil side, nor are they the same. The very basis of Caldari and Gallente society is different, and everything flows from there.
Which is exactly the reason why the 'Gallente turn authoritarians' arc didn't work for me. It clashes fundamentally with everything the Gallente Federation stands for, good and bad. So I'm glad that is now rapidly disappearing from the storyboard, and we're now moving again towards the Federation we all love, admire, loath, and fear. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:13:00 -
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Ohh, and old Jacky Roden didn't save the Gallentean Federation. He only saved his business being nationalised and taken away from him. Nationalisation of the Gallentean military-industrial complex may have been in the best interest of the common good, and as such, may have been achieved in the State. But in the Federation, nationalisation of any effort is not in the self-interest of the individual, and clashes fundamentally with the personal freedom if the individual to run his corporation without government interference.
Old Jacky Roden may have claimed to have saved the Federation from an authoritarian president for the holoreels, but any well thinking Gallentean will instantly recognise that he just didn't want to lose control of his arms-empire. And given that all other gun-dealers basically didn't want to either, they joined hands even with someone like Jacky Roden (who isn't very popular among that crowd), to get what they want. Obviously, "the common good" played no role in this what-so-ever.
And now Jacky Roden is testing the waters on what exactly he can gain from his new-found position of influence. The pieces are moving, the game is on! -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
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