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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:24:00 -
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Preface: I'm not a dedicated miner, but I dip into it every now and then. I know eve is primarily combat oriented, but it does like to brag about the variety of careers one can specialize in, not just combat. I'd like to see some more development (ships, structures, skills, whatever) for these non-combat oriented careers. Since I can't think of an item to create for a market trader or researcher, I'll focus on mining. I'd like to expand on ORE.
Right now, we basically have a handful of t1 & t2 barges, the orca and the rorq as ORE ships. That is the extent of their presence. So, I'd first like to see a few more ORE ships. And I would also like to utilize the new bay systems with this.
-ORE industrial: A fairly small cargohold for an industrial, but a very large (for an industrial) ore bay. Maybe a base 1,000 m3 cargohold and 35,000 m3 ore bay, with cargohold increased by 5% for each level of industry trained. Basically should be able to haul more ore than an iteron V, but not too much else. -ORE freighter: Same as above, but much larger scale. Probably 1/5 the cargohold of a normal freighter, but then an ore bay 1.5 times the size of a current freighter's cargohold. Less certain about the need of this ship. Might be forcing an ORE ship for the sake of having an ORE ship here. -ORE faction barges: Yes, I know that all barges are technically ORE. I'm referring to something along the lines of True Sanshas, Angel Cartel, etc. ships you can buy on contracts only. So T1 faction barges. 1 for ice mining with a cargohold big enough for 1 cycle, and then a large ice bay. It would have only 1 turret slot, but a 300% bonus to harvest amount (so still less per cycle than a mackinaw). The other would be for roids. 3 strips, bonuses bring it to around the level of a hulk, but not as strong defensively. It would have a cargohold big enough to hold a little over 1 cycle, and a large ore bay (10,000-15,000 m3).
Then there is some love for the low-sec / null-sec mining corps. An ORE Control tower (large only). Bonuses would be 100% incresae in refinery capacity, 50% decrease in refine time, 90% refining efficiency (or just something better than the crappy returns you get refining at a POS now). It would use same amount of fuel as all large faction towers. Would have middle of the road cpu & pwr. Enough cpu for the best refinery, but not as much as a caldari tower. Enough pwr to put up some decent weapons, but not enough for an amarr deathstar.
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Max Tux
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:30:00 -
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looks good +1
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Gavin McStine
Gallente M.A.G.E.C
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:10:00 -
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Not a bad idea, but what about minerals, could they be placed into the ore hold? and what about a high sec rorqual?, only enough space for high sec minerals to made into 1 compressed ore. Make it longer to finsh the compressed ore then it does to mine, so it makes a "backlog" unless you have more then miners, has no high slots or drone cargobay.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:12:00 -
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I think ORE need some love too.
* ORE faction mining laser upgrades * ORE faction cargohold expanders * ORE faction mining crystals * ORE or Syndicate gas cloud harvesting ship (bonuses to harvest cycle time) * ORE (as well as many of the other 0.0 corps) level 5 agents
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OrcephDrake
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:29:00 -
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nice! I can se were u might be "forcing an ORE ship for the saek of having an ORE ship" LOL. But still for the most part these are nice idears.
I like the ORE control tower! Getting nice for LowSec/0.0 mining bases. I really like that idea. Maybe if you have sov in a system with a ORE tower it gives bonus to the amount u can mine or something crazy like that. ^_^
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lou shuo
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:21:00 -
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i am liking what i am reading yes definetly a possiblity for forward movement here.
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Barrus Inane
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:37:00 -
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Is cool idea, but we would need stuff to use the increased ore production, atm, isn't the mineral market currently getting flooded?
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ThePoPo28
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:38:00 -
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+1 Hope CCP reads this one. Good ideas. I especially like the ORE hauler & control tower.
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Spud Mackenzie
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:52:00 -
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How about a couple High/Low Sec agents, so we can try and build some Standings and LP without being podded?
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Spud Mackenzie How about a couple High/Low Sec agents, so we can try and build some Standings and LP without being podded?
Ninja mission running really isn't that hard. Have you tried it? I've done it in Foutain, Syndicate, and Venal. Its well worth the effort (low security = higher rewards).
As per the op, I really like the control tower idea and would very much like to see a gas harvesting ship.
The control tower idea is really really appealing though.
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: XXSketchxx
Originally by: Spud Mackenzie How about a couple High/Low Sec agents, so we can try and build some Standings and LP without being podded?
Ninja mission running really isn't that hard. Have you tried it? I've done it in Foutain, Syndicate, and Venal. Its well worth the effort (low security = higher rewards).
As per the op, I really like the control tower idea and would very much like to see a gas harvesting ship.
The control tower idea is really really appealing though.
Yea, not including an ORE gas harvesting ship was an oversight. So make that 3 ORE faction ships: 1 ice, 1 roid, 1 gas.
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Twilight Princess
Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:39:00 -
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Well another thing Mining Rigs and Ice mining rigs.
Well the only mining related rigs out there is cargo hold expansion wich if you are a dedicated miner you have a hauler. and mining drone yield rigs wich well if your mining with a barge those drones dosent give u much and well mining mercoxit with drones come on thats just bad and there is no ice rigs or gas rigs as im aware off
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Princess Well another thing Mining Rigs and Ice mining rigs.
Well the only mining related rigs out there is cargo hold expansion wich if you are a dedicated miner you have a hauler. and mining drone yield rigs wich well if your mining with a barge those drones dosent give u much and well mining mercoxit with drones come on thats just bad and there is no ice rigs or gas rigs as im aware off
I think I might have heard something about mining rigs in the works. But if they're not, they should be.
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Aias Telemonias
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:40:00 -
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I must say, if this were a petition, and all the wrinkles were worked out, I would sign it!
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Sophie Malaster
Gallente EuroMECH Tech Market ARTESANOS
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:00:00 -
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The ORE industrial and ORE freighter it's my preference XDD ________________________________________________
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Joe Starbreaker
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:02:00 -
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How about an ORE titan with a mining doomsday? Or an ORE dreadnought that can go into active moon-mining seige mode.
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Sophie Malaster
Gallente EuroMECH Tech Market ARTESANOS
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker How about an ORE titan with a mining doomsday? Or an ORE dreadnought that can go into active moon-mining seige mode.
Mmmm meaby you can give some herbs that you're smooking. It's looks very powerfull... ________________________________________________
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker How about an ORE titan with a mining doomsday? Or an ORE dreadnought that can go into active moon-mining seige mode.
"ORE titan warps to belt, sets off roid rage doomesday, and all ore in belt is transported to jita."
Back to serious ideas, not thread destroyers
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: XXSketchxx on 26/08/2009 23:47:28 Ships I wouldn't mind seeing:
ORE industrial ORE freighter
but really the Orca kinda fills these roles so I'm don't want them that bad
What I really want now is:
ORE control towers as described above. And maybe an ORE refinery?
Honestly ORE barges aren't needed. They already are ORE ships.
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Mad Maulkin
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:53:00 -
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orca don't really fill those nices,
id like to see a dedicated Ore hauler, with ore/minerals bay too...
Using the orca to haul my 28mill trit takes a long time...
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Preggers28
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Posted - 2009.08.27 12:05:00 -
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It would be nice if the hauler / freighter could have a cargobay that holds both ore & minerals, not just ore. But I like the ideas, and think they'd be a nice addition.
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Makhar
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin McStine and what about a high sec rorqual?
So, kinda like the Orca then?
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Makhar
Originally by: Gavin McStine and what about a high sec rorqual?
So, kinda like the Orca then?
Not my idea I know some people want to compress ore in high-sec. I'd say no to that. There are plenty of stations around for reprocessing, even if mins might be bigger than compressed ore.
Maybe an ORE freighter(while I still think it is probably the least needed of those I imagine) would instead of having a large ore and small cargo bay, would have just 1 bay holding ore & minerals (industrial bay?), and is larger than a regular freighter. Could come in a jump freighter variety too. Again, least of my concerns listed, and I myslef would probably leave this one out.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:29:00 -
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High sec compression is dumb. Plenty of stations to refine at and way s to get 100% refine. Orca is the high sec rorqual.
Bumpage for ORE love.
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Sister Megarea
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:58:00 -
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ORE Tractor Arrays: Able to tractor asteroids. 100 km range. Fits on Orca or larger.
/signed for everything else, too :)
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Bemoteajh
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Posted - 2009.08.27 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Bemoteajh on 27/08/2009 23:05:23 well i like this idea as it is +1 but i think they need a way to set the ore destination to a can that way a ship with minimal cargo can fit for focused mining in large mining ops and i truly feel they need a better mining frigate the ones that are just kind of thrown in with the standard racial frigates suck
and the 1 thing that truly bugs me is that they need capital mining lazers/strip miners for the rorqual i mean it should be able to 2/3 cycle an asteroid as big as that thing is
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Lucjan
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Posted - 2009.08.28 00:16:00 -
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ORE Escort Craft
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.28 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: XXSketchxx on 28/08/2009 14:09:03
Originally by: Bemoteajh i truly feel they need a better mining frigate the ones that are just kind of thrown in with the standard racial frigates suck
Didn't even think of this. ORE mining frigs/cruisers would be very nice to have
Quote: and the 1 thing that truly bugs me is that they need capital mining lazers/strip miners for the rorqual i mean it should be able to 2/3 cycle an asteroid as big as that thing is
keep dreaming child..
edit: dunno why but my whole post is in italics...weird...
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.28 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lucjan ORE Escort Craft
what exactly do you mean by this?
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2009.08.28 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Megarea ORE Tractor Arrays: Able to tractor asteroids. 100 km range. Fits on Orca or larger.
/signed for everything else, too :)
IDK about that one... Realistically the best way to mine in space would be with a giant net. Game rules are in the way of efficiency unfortunately.
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