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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 15:46:00 -
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eg: this sort of thing: http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-34-345-0
This is what's available in my new place. Can anyone confirm or deny that it does/does not matter what brand of Homeplug you use to connect to another one? The ones the guy has already are outrageously more expensive than the ones I have linked to (like ú124.99). Otherwise I will have to use Wireless connection to a router on another floor. WiFi = ass for EvE, in my experience.
Is it OK to use another brand to connect to the one he has connected to the router?
PS this homeplug gizmo seems p. fast and responsive. I'm quite impressed. XP sees it as just a normal network, auto-configured it, was online in 30 seconds. I had no idea these things existed until recently.
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.08.29 16:34:00 -
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I can't see how it would make a difference what brand as the networking tool in vista doesn't even see the plugs themselves so should be fine, was using some netgear ones up until recently when one of them died on me with a very nice sounding bang, didn't do any damage to the PC which was also nice so i have faith in these myself :)
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.29 16:38:00 -
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I use homeplugs myself, Far better than wireless in my particular case, and I can confirm that different brands of homeplug will work together, however, I'm not sure what effect mixing different SPEEDS of homeplug will have on the overall network.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 16:53:00 -
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Awesome, thanks guys. I couldn't think of any reason why different brands wouldn't be compatible, but then I know bog all about this technology, and I also know that lots of companies rejoice in "building their brand" by locking people in to proprietary standards and then using them roughly from behind.
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annoing
Amarr Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.08.29 23:00:00 -
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This is the best thread in ages. Ive never heard of homeplug before but after reading this thread I went and ordered one for my spare comp upstairs
I'm hoping that it will be easy to plug the homeplug router into my current router (cos it has 2 comps already installed on a highspeed network) and the other into the spare comp.
Fingers crossed
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.29 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: annoing This is the best thread in ages. Ive never heard of homeplug before but after reading this thread I went and ordered one for my spare comp upstairs
I'm hoping that it will be easy to plug the homeplug router into my current router (cos it has 2 comps already installed on a highspeed network) and the other into the spare comp.
Fingers crossed
Basically, if your network solution would work with regular ethernet cables then it'll work with homeplugs, for all intents and purposes (So far as your hardware cares) they are just cables.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.30 00:20:00 -
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I refuse to use this technology due to it being nothing more than witchcraft in my opinion. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.30 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 30/08/2009 00:35:14 The power cabling networks won't run so well if your wiring is crap. You need to have pretty recent power wiring to get the full advantage of the system, and it won't help if the electrics in your house are run on different loops in different rooms/floors.
Quite frankly, I would not use that type of system. I'd rather completely wired Cat5e, and drill my way through reinforced concrete (as I had to, to completely network my concrete three storey house!).
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Annihilate. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 02:39:00 -
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I have a pair of homeplug adaptors connecting upstairs > downstairs and they work perfectly even in my 40yr old home. (i guess the electrics have been updated at some point but it's still quite old)
Obviously not as good as Ethernet but in my experience very close. Getting the advertised 100mbit at least which is a lot more than I can say for my Wireless-N, advertised at 250mbit but not even getting 10 half the time
Seems stable too, only had to restart them once since I got them about 6 months ago
as for different brands - some are compatible, others aren't. Most use the same technology but I think there's some that are different and won't work, but you'll really have to read up on them to see.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero I refuse to use this technology due to it being nothing more than witchcraft in my opinion.
I agree with this opinion and follow the same practice.
It's quite funny that they had a legitimate chance to use the word power in the name but they chose to call it homeplug ? what a lame name is that...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
as for different brands - some are compatible, others aren't. Most use the same technology but I think there's some that are different and won't work, but you'll really have to read up on them to see.
arse!
I assume my chances are improved if I get a "200mbit" one to match the D-Link he's using?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 11:09:00 -
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Further research shows that there are 2 chipsets in use, mutually incompatible.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar Pragmatics
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Posted - 2009.08.30 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Further research shows that there are 2 chipsets in use, probably mutually incompatible.
These are the DS-2 and the Intellon. Apparently I need a DS-2 chipset homeplug.
I'm now about to ramble pointlessly because you've already done your research... The people who mentioned witchcraft above are partially right. The interoperability of different brands of HomePlug adapter is not easily predictable, and getting mixed setups to work is a black art. It's one of those "standards based" systems where the everyone has their own standard. Experimenting can be expensive, so in the past when I've had to get things working I've always bought stuff from the same manufacturer unless I had equipment already lying around that I could experiment with.
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.08.30 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero I refuse to use this technology due to it being nothing more than witchcraft in my opinion.
burn the witch!
although I have been doing the wifi thing and well, it has worked great.
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Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.31 06:32:00 -
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I'm using "Homeplugs" right now, though in Australia we call it "Ethernet over Power" (or at least my Dad, who's worked I.T. most his life, does.) It simplifies things no end, before I had a 6 meter cable running from the kitchen into my bedroom to the router under my bed, then 2 separate cables from there to my computer and Xbox 360, my brother had a similar set-up but his bed room was further away so a longer cable was required!, now I just have one 20 centimetre cable from the modem to the first plug, a one meter cable running from the plug in my power-board to my router and then 30 centimetre cables running from the router to the PC and Xbox 360.
I think my brother noticed a slight speed increase, but he's a bit more geeky than me, so I'll just nod and go "Uh-huh" a lot.
The other thing you may need to check is that the house doesn't have different circuits running through it, in my apartment the bathroom is on a separate circuit to the kitchen which is on a separate circuit to the rest of the apartment, it might not work over separate circuits, but it's much much easier to deal with than Wi-Fi, which other can leach off and much simpler than having massive long cables running through the house and constantly tripping up. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
Originally by: Malcanis Further research shows that there are 2 chipsets in use, probably mutually incompatible.
These are the DS-2 and the Intellon. Apparently I need a DS-2 chipset homeplug.
I'm now about to ramble pointlessly because you've already done your research... The people who mentioned witchcraft above are partially right. The interoperability of different brands of HomePlug adapter is not easily predictable, and getting mixed setups to work is a black art. It's one of those "standards based" systems where the everyone has their own standard. Experimenting can be expensive, so in the past when I've had to get things working I've always bought stuff from the same manufacturer unless I had equipment already lying around that I could experiment with.
Sadly it seems that the specific model in question has been discontinued. The few remaining units left on the market are at an extortionate price.
Since I'll eventually need a pair of homeplugs anyway, I'd rather buy a pair now for less than a single discontinued unit, and hope there isn't too much crosstalk interference if mine aren't directly compatible with his. Also, from what I can tell, there doesn't seem to be much "art" in it. There are no settings you can change. All you can do is hope.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.31 07:10:00 -
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And unfortunately sometimes hoping just isn't enough _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero And unfortunately sometimes hoping just isn't enough
I have faith that it is.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.31 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Blane Xero And unfortunately sometimes hoping just isn't enough
I have faith that it is.
Best of luck. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Blane Xero And unfortunately sometimes hoping just isn't enough
I have faith that it is.
Best of luck.
Hope, faith and luck; how can I fail
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.31 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Blane Xero And unfortunately sometimes hoping just isn't enough
I have faith that it is.
Best of luck.
Hope, faith and luck; how can I fail
Dum dum dum! In steps their nemesis, reasoning!
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Annihilate. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 31/08/2009 16:06:29 These are the ones I use and have never had a problem with them. I wouldn't pay that much for them mind (When I got them they were half that price) so I'd look around for the best deals (I think there was a pair of 85mbit ones on that site for ú30)
Speed wise pretty good too. Apparently mine are running at 177mbit, so faster than my ethernet and not far off the advertised 200mbit
Setting them up might not be as straightforeward as it says though. The pair I got wern't given the same password (despite what it said in the manual...) and after many hours of them seemingly not recognising each other I was ready to give up and send them back - but I put in a new password on both as a last resort and they sprung to life
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