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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:58:00 -
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I'm onlly posting this cos eve is down and I thought I'd test a smaller file size encode....
So I have battlecruiser II and medium LAZOR II just so I can fly the sexy harbinger class internet spaceship.
I'm actually a frig pilot, Someone in local was calling me out as a wimp for not fighting in bigger ships so I sets me up the harb of doom. It worked out ok.
please provide positive flameage on how im doingitwrong.
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RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.30 23:24:00 -
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Shield buffer brutix is a good boat, dont knock it just because you beat it in active Harb; although BC 2 is amusing.
Whats the native res yo are recording in?
and inb4 moved to my eve
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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FU22
The Furry Toast
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Posted - 2009.08.30 23:25:00 -
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Was a nice fight
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.30 23:27:00 -
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Sadly, the shield brutix is the only proper brutix. I wish you could put an armor tank on it without having to resort to peashooters and hanging a "slow boat, wait for it" sign on the back. I really do.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.30 23:31:00 -
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thanks and thanks and
It's 1280x1024, exported with lagarith to lossless avi, stuck through the capone/shikari autoEncoder on low speed, medium quality. Seems nice.
I can see the appeal of that shield brutix, with all the damage mods, but it lacks propulsion which seems too open to abuse for my liking.
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Mersault
Gallente Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.08.31 00:07:00 -
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Nice vid
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 00:09:00 -
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Whats wrong with shield brutix? Its the proper way to fly the ship...
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.31 00:29:00 -
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Gank brutix is best brutix.. Tank? Thats what plates are for...
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.31 00:29:00 -
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IMO a shield brutix shold have mids of MWD/Disruptor/LSE/Invuln. You can probbly get away with a second LSE if you try.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:09:00 -
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[Brutix, shield] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactor Control Unit II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Vespa EC-600 x5
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:11:00 -
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Shield tank Brutix is fantastic. ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reason [Brutix, shield] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactor Control Unit II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Vespa EC-600 x5
This, but maybe with hammers if in a gang. TBQFH, the only way to really fly a brutix. ===
Quote: I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise. Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reason [Brutix, shield] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactor Control Unit II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Vespa EC-600 x5
OK well lets see.. Quick EFT Whoring for an armor tank setup gives me this..
[Brutix, Setup 1] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Anti-Explosive Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
Matchup: Slightly less DPS (615 to 701 because of the smaller guns) No ECM Drones Slower (only by a bit) No EM Hole (which only matters if your opponent is smart) Booster fed so its 'stable' for longer. Also makes it slightly newt/nos immune. Close to the same EHP. Double the reps.
Its your choice really.. My shield skill suck though so I know which one I would go with.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 31/08/2009 01:47:06
Originally by: Lana Torrin
OK well lets see.. Quick EFT Whoring for an armor tank setup gives me this..
[Brutix, Setup 1] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Anti-Explosive Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
Matchup: Slightly less DPS (615 to 701 because of the smaller guns) No ECM Drones Slower (only by a bit) No EM Hole (which only matters if your opponent is smart) Booster fed so its 'stable' for longer. Also makes it slightly newt/nos immune. Close to the same EHP. Double the reps.
Its your choice really.. My shield skill suck though so I know which one I would go with.
Comments: - You should be able to pull off Ions and an 800 plate. - Plated and armor rigged Brutixes are slow, both in agility and in top speed. This is the key reason to fly a Brutix.
-Liang
Ed: Such sig #fail... jeeze! -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Comments: - You should be able to pull off Ions and an 800 plate. - Plated and armor rigged Brutixes are slow, both in agility and in top speed. This is the key reason to fly a Brutix.
Its entirely possible you can.. 30 seconds of EFT whoring does not a good ship make.. My point was that shield brutix isn't always the best brutix and you can make good armor brutixes..
Also I'd say the 7 blasters on a basically cruiser sized ship is the reason to fly a brutix.. But I do get your point.
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.31 01:52:00 -
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That's not a fair comparison, mainly because of the drones. If you switch to hammers you'll pump out 860 dps. which is quite a difference, over a 3rd more than your setup. Also it'll be more agile which you really need on a blaster BC (almost BS agility with cruiser optimal+falloff).
Also I'm not really interested in an EM hole, unless you're being hit with scorch or aurora it'll still be half EM/half thermal (ish) meaning you're better off adding thermal as that's also half of hybrid damage type. Putting a Brutix in a fleet/medium range fight is a waste of time. in other situations (small gang piracy, solo ganking) you'll have less range issues and thus less 'scorch issues'.
Apart from that you ARE slower full speed, you ARE slower to align (in both cases not by a lot) but more importantly, because you switch back to Electrons you lose a WHOLE lot of range (and a tiny bit of damage). That extra range is VERY useful because it means you'll do decent damage at the edge of webrange (with null, with is a decent option).
I've been trying to make an armor setup that makes sense and I personally HATE passive EHP tanking but shield brutix > armor brutix. Trust me :)
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2009.08.31 02:00:00 -
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And thus the plot thickens.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.31 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Torrin on 31/08/2009 02:08:17
Originally by: AdmiralJohn And thus the plot thickens.
No it doesn't.. Those are all good reasons to run a shield brutix.. Good reasons to run an armor brutix include: - its a gal ship, so if you have logi support in gang they are probably going to be armor logi.. - An EM hole WILL kill you in a shield tank if your opponent knows what they are doing and can change damage types (lol missiles). Having said that its going to be a tough one to spot fast enough to make a difference. - 'Slower' is a relative term.. There is no point in being able to hit 'just inside of web range' if your opponent is webbing you so he can get closer and hit you harder..
At no point did I say that a shield tanked brutix was fail, im simply pointing out that an armor tanked one isn't nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be and depends entirely on your skills and fleet composition.
Now a shield tanked thorax.. THATs fail...
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.31 02:39:00 -
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This is quite interesting :)
The lol shield Brutix remark more relates to the fact I managed to kill it with lame bc skills. I mean it's not overly big or clever but thought posting that would entertain while the server was down.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.08.31 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank This is quite interesting :)
The lol shield Brutix remark more relates to the fact I managed to kill it with lame bc skills. I mean it's not overly big or clever but thought posting that would entertain while the server was down.
Oh Lady your so fine, your so fine you blow my mind, oh lady! Also, is that what your OP said?
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.08.31 05:29:00 -
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shield buffer brutix is the only way to fly one imo
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Omara Otawan on 31/08/2009 06:23:27 The EM-hole is fixed easily by switching one extender rig for an EM-resist one.
Also, make sure to train thermodynamics for this ship, it rips faces off with BC 5.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.31 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan Also, make sure to train thermodynamics for this ship
There's people who don't have Thermodynamics?
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
There's people who don't have Thermodynamics?
You'd be surprised, this skill seems to be almost unknown amongst 0.0 dwellers.
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Robert0288
Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.08.31 06:49:00 -
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thermo what?
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Loriana Oreless
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Posted - 2009.08.31 09:21:00 -
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Hey.. I popped a T2-fitted Brutix last night with my feebel T1-fitted Cyclone. It was my first kill in EVE (PvP). I was so excited i almost couldnt sleep at all
Actually im still jumping around in joy
PS! This is totally OT and gramatically out of this world.. but im... EXCITED!!!
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Lola Fang
Space Assassination Service
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Posted - 2009.08.31 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Loriana Oreless Hey.. I popped a T2-fitted Brutix last night with my feebel T1-fitted Cyclone. It was my first kill in EVE (PvP). I was so excited i almost couldnt sleep at all
Actually im still jumping around in joy
PS! This is totally OT and gramatically out of this world.. but im... EXCITED!!!
You do realise his kids will be wondering what happened to daddy. ---------------- "You lost your eye to a seagull dropping?," "Well," said the pirate, "it was my first day with my hook"
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Lee Dalton
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.31 13:09:00 -
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Shield Brutix is the best Brutix. *** You're only as good as your last fight. |
Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Now a shield tanked thorax.. THATs fail...
But... I like the shield tanked Thorax :( Why do I always have to do the webbing myself? ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog |
Lee Dalton
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Now a shield tanked thorax.. THATs fail...
Shield tanked thorax is best thorax. *** You're only as good as your last fight. |
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