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minerboob
Gallente LG Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:03:00 -
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My guess since it shows an Orca in the screenshot that there will be Z E R O new upgrades for us miners. The only reason the Orca is in there is to ____ us off when there are no mining upgrades.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:08:00 -
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The devs promised they would listen to the suggestions about ORE faction stuff and the addition of a Gas Cloud Harvesting ship from Syndicate. So don't worry, they promised.
prof:
Originally by: CCPDevelopers Yes we will do everything sig sour suggests, as he is very intelligent and good looking and his ideas about adding some ORE faction stuff and a Syndicate Gas Cloud Harvesting ship will be in the Domination expansion, we promise.
There you have it.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:08:00 -
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This is exactly why CCP should stop announcing upcoming projects and releases.
It never ends well.
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:09:00 -
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Miners don't need upgrades. What do miners do? They mine. What do miners NEED to do? Mine. Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.
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minerboob
Gallente LG Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas Miners don't need upgrades. What do miners do? They mine. What do miners NEED to do? Mine. Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.
Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der Radioactive cats have 18 half lives. |
Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas Miners don't need upgrades. What do miners do? They mine. What do miners NEED to do? Mine. Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.
Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der
There's not exactly a mineral shortage, is there?
P.S. I'm not your "man".
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minerboob
Gallente LG Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas Miners don't need upgrades. What do miners do? They mine. What do miners NEED to do? Mine. Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.
Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der
There's not exactly a mineral shortage, is there?
P.S. I'm not your "man".
Uhm.. there is an ISK shortage. In my bank account.
and yes.. you -are- my man, my man. Radioactive cats have 18 half lives. |
Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: minerboob
Faster, better, stronger my man. I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der
There's not exactly a mineral shortage, is there?
P.S. I'm not your "man".
Uhm.. there is an ISK shortage. In my bank account.
and yes.. you -are- my man, my man.
Your ISK shortage does not imply there is a need for mining upgrades, it implies you need to learn how to make ISK.
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minerboob
Gallente LG Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:16:00 -
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Your ISK shortage does not imply there is a need for mining upgrades, it implies you need to learn how to make ISK.
Uhm.. I do. Its called missioning. Did you happen to see the part about "I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der"
DER DER DER Radioactive cats have 18 half lives. |
Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Another Liberthas on 31/08/2009 23:20:14 Edited by: Another Liberthas on 31/08/2009 23:19:50 Edited by: Another Liberthas on 31/08/2009 23:19:29
Originally by: minerboob
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Your ISK shortage does not imply there is a need for mining upgrades, it implies you need to learn how to make ISK.
Uhm.. I do. Its called missioning. Did you happen to see the part about "I have stopped my mining career because it does not make enough isk. When they make mining comp to mission running im in. Maybe some of those !!!UPGRADES!!! would help. der der der"
DER DER DER
For one, learn to quote. For two, if your wallet is fine, then why did you say
Quote: Uhm.. there is an ISK shortage. In my bank account.
? For three, I see no problem with the mining yields currently. You got your orca and your mining bonuses a while ago. For four, what the hell does Quote: DER DER DER
mean? It makes you sound like a ******.
EDIT: Dude, your quote broke MY quote.
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Spaztick
Terminal Impact
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:20:00 -
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Miners don't make enough money so they stop mining. Mining falls off, so prices of minerals go up. Mining becomes profitable, so miners start mining. On another topic, I finally removed that annoying sentence in my signature.
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minerboob
Gallente LG Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:20:00 -
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yep.. this is not a chat between me and you. I am no longer responding to you. You must be a republican to boot. Radioactive cats have 18 half lives. |
Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob yep.. this is not a chat between me and you. I am no longer responding to you. You must be a republican to boot.
Nom nom nom, ad hominem. Furthermore, that counts as an admission that your argument sucks.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:25:00 -
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The best boost to miners would be the repeal/change of the Drone regions. Mining with guns against Drones crashed the LowSuck mineral market.
Mining ships/Mining should be the best way to get minerals, not ratting...
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente TarNec New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob You must be a republican to boot.
What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?
Troll, 2/10.And the 2 only because I agree there should be more variety in mining stuffz.
BECAUSE OF FALCONDUST!
Originally by: CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3
GO NAVIGATOR <3 |
Brolly
Caldari M.e.r.c Productions Deathadder Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas Miners don't need upgrades. What do miners do? They mine. What do miners NEED to do? Mine. Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.
That argument is epic fail, if that was the case, when eve was released it had ships, guns ammo and upgrades, therefore there was no need for t2 or t3, any ships beyond cruiser, frig and battleship.
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Amitious Turkey
Originally by: minerboob You must be a republican to boot.
What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?
Republicans hate mining. And Chribba. I read it on the internet.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Amitious Turkey
Originally by: minerboob You must be a republican to boot.
What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?
Republicans hate mining. And Chribba. I read it on the internet.
Everyone hates Chribba. It's just that the hate is so great, so massive, that it warps reality until what comes out looks suspiciously like love.
This is basically just the reverse process of what the body does to food.
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente TarNec New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Amitious Turkey
Originally by: minerboob You must be a republican to boot.
What the heck does that have to do with mining, you boob?
Republicans hate mining. And Chribba. I read it on the internet.
Everyone hates Chribba. It's just that the hate is so great, so massive, that it warps reality until what comes out looks suspiciously like love.
This is basically just the reverse process of what the body does to food.
I was about to say, I'm a republican...
BECAUSE OF FALCONDUST!
Originally by: CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3
GO NAVIGATOR <3 |
Yalezorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.01 00:01:00 -
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Any upgrade to miners will destabalize the market for about a day and a half, after which every serious miner will have the new stuff, causing the market to go back to where it's been for the last half decade.
Mining is extraordinarily easy. It does not need to be made easier.
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wickedpheonix
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
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Posted - 2009.09.01 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Yalezorn Any upgrade to miners will destabalize the market for about a day and a half, after which every serious miner will have the new stuff, causing the market to go back to where it's been for the last half decade.
Mining is extraordinarily easy. It does not need to be made easier.
Some variety could be nice though, i.e. a Mining Drone ship or a ship that sacrifices some yield in exchange for some extreme range - or just put this all in a t3 mining ship. Some kind of post-Exhumer, i.e. a ship that requires a skill that requires Exhumers 5, would be an interesting addition as well. The real challenge is to do all this without displacing the Hulk yet while keeping the new ships relevant.
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Muscaat
ASCENTIS CORPORATION Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 02:05:00 -
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Was I the only one who read the title of this thread and started thinking evil thoughts about NodeLists and NS/non-NS methods?
...Yes, just me then. I'll go back in my box now... ---------- EVE Markets - global price trends at your fingertips |
Rotnac
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:39:00 -
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Mining is pretty ****ed right now, though. It does need work on.
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D3F4ULT
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:17:00 -
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I mine, It's boring, but I like it simple. I just wish I could receive more from it somehow since I am putting my personal time and effort towards it. I know most of you will say, "Change your profession". But, regardless it's still apart of the game that makes this universe, so the problem is a universal issue to miners.
Then you have inflation with botters. =/ But not much you can do there either.
Maybe a User interface change up, or something to encourage people to get together and mine. I'm not sure exactly, lol Lasers are only so fun for so long. I remember the days of using little Frigate lazers and hearing the roar of Strip miners in the background ^_^
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Super Whopper on 01/09/2009 09:16:56
Originally by: Another Liberthas
Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Another Liberthas Miners don't need upgrades. What do miners do? They mine. What do miners NEED to do? Mine. Miners can already do all they need to do, hence, GTFO, you get no upgrades.
That argument is epic fail, if that was the case, when eve was released it had ships, guns ammo and upgrades, therefore there was no need for t2 or t3, any ships beyond cruiser, frig and battleship.
You know, that actually sounds fun.
Actually Goons proved that a fleet of noob ships can take anything on. Why need frigates when you can have free noob ships? Welcome to Noob Ship Online and if it's so fun you now have your own game to play.
Who was it who needs to GTFO again?
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula This is exactly why CCP should stop announcing upcoming projects and releases.
It never ends well.
you're so right, just not in the way you meant it -.- - putting the gist back into logistics |
Bodwad
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:50:00 -
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They need to change the way mining works in my opinion.
1) Remove refining at stations and have the mining lasers extract the ore itself. Refining skills effect how much is extracted
2) Multiple ore in eash asteroid of varying levels. Why would an asteroid only have one ore? Asteroids with multiple ores would be more realistic, mining lasers extract based on pilots skills and ratio of the ore's in the roid itself.
3) T2 lasers allow a miner to extract only one type of ore from an asteroid much more efficiently
4) I we say the laser operates on frequencies we could even have the mining player adjusting bars to get more of what he/she wants. This gives miners more to do.
5) Asteroid scanners scan individual asteroids for their specs e.g 50098 Trit, 876 Pyerite, 5 megacyte. This means miners can hunt through belts for what they want, again giving them more to do as they hunt for the ultimate roid.
I have mined alot in the past but its boring. We need to remove the costant hauling and have the miners do more if they want more. With these changes we could have larger belts, if people want to just strip everything they can but it allows more active players to pick and choose.
Thats what I think anyway. Big changes but I think refining in stations and pos's is pointless. Could potentially reduce lag too as not so many people will be docking undocking and refining etc. Although that could be countered by the refining on the ship, I dont really know, much more client side though I would think
Bodwad
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Saartje Sarel
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bodwad They need to change the way mining works in my opinion.
1) Remove refining at stations and have the mining lasers extract the ore itself. Refining skills effect how much is extracted
2) Multiple ore in eash asteroid of varying levels. Why would an asteroid only have one ore? Asteroids with multiple ores would be more realistic, mining lasers extract based on pilots skills and ratio of the ore's in the roid itself.
3) T2 lasers allow a miner to extract only one type of ore from an asteroid much more efficiently
4) I we say the laser operates on frequencies we could even have the mining player adjusting bars to get more of what he/she wants. This gives miners more to do.
5) Asteroid scanners scan individual asteroids for their specs e.g 50098 Trit, 876 Pyerite, 5 megacyte. This means miners can hunt through belts for what they want, again giving them more to do as they hunt for the ultimate roid.
I have mined alot in the past but its boring. We need to remove the costant hauling and have the miners do more if they want more. With these changes we could have larger belts, if people want to just strip everything they can but it allows more active players to pick and choose.
Thats what I think anyway. Big changes but I think refining in stations and pos's is pointless. Could potentially reduce lag too as not so many people will be docking undocking and refining etc. Although that could be countered by the refining on the ship, I dont really know, much more client side though I would think
Bodwad
Fantastic idea, one of several I have read ..
The utterly simplistic and far from realistic mining mechanic in game at present are well over-due a make-over.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bodwad They need to change the way mining works in my opinion.
1) Remove refining at stations and have the mining lasers extract the ore itself. Refining skills effect how much is extracted
2) Multiple ore in eash asteroid of varying levels. Why would an asteroid only have one ore? Asteroids with multiple ores would be more realistic, mining lasers extract based on pilots skills and ratio of the ore's in the roid itself.
3) T2 lasers allow a miner to extract only one type of ore from an asteroid much more efficiently
4) I we say the laser operates on frequencies we could even have the mining player adjusting bars to get more of what he/she wants. This gives miners more to do.
5) Asteroid scanners scan individual asteroids for their specs e.g 50098 Trit, 876 Pyerite, 5 megacyte. This means miners can hunt through belts for what they want, again giving them more to do as they hunt for the ultimate roid.
I have mined alot in the past but its boring. We need to remove the costant hauling and have the miners do more if they want more. With these changes we could have larger belts, if people want to just strip everything they can but it allows more active players to pick and choose.
Thats what I think anyway. Big changes but I think refining in stations and pos's is pointless. Could potentially reduce lag too as not so many people will be docking undocking and refining etc. Although that could be countered by the refining on the ship, I dont really know, much more client side though I would think
Bodwad
As a professional miner I like this idea but until CCP implement something like this you have two very nice haulers: Orca and Rorqual.
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Daquaris
I.M.M Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: minerboob yep.. this is not a chat between me and you. I am no longer responding to you. You must be a republican to boot.
LOL.
U mad?
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Trebor DeCaldar
Caldari Formosa Universal HQ
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo The best boost to miners would be the repeal/change of the Drone regions. Mining with guns against Drones crashed the LowSuck mineral market.
Mining ships/Mining should be the best way to get minerals, not ratting...
THIS THIS THIS!!!
90% of minerals should come from mining rather than the current 60%
Originally by: Hoo Is Siigari lost a ship...
In other news, water is wet, fire is hot, and bacon is delicious
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula This is exactly why CCP should stop announcing upcoming projects and releases.
It never ends well.
qft. --Vel
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Dani SP
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Posted - 2009.09.01 15:09:00 -
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I have read some nice suggestions here.
I think we need a drastic change, with these as starring features:
- remove reprocesseable loot, in other words stuff that pops from rats should be unique faction items and such, whose value once reprocessed is ridiculous. In fact the amount of stuff which pops should be extremely limited. To compensate this, raise the bounty prizes.
- Belts should grow, there should be more rocks and they must be bigger.
- Make mining more interactive, like you need to lock the rocks constantly, or press some keys to optimize the process, or stuff. This way mining becomes funnier and macrominers become useless and/or earn less isk.
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