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Terrus Valkin
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.03 07:00:00 -
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Very short and simple idea I wanted to suggest after reading something that gave me the idea elsewhere. Favorable wormholes can be difficult to find, making logistics a pretty difficult process. Wormholes don't like to cooperate with the active hours of one's corp. What do you think about an object that can be anchored in proximity to a wormhole that extends that particular wormhole's duration and/or mass? How much should such an object alter the wormhole if introduced?
On the note of canon, it'd be simple enough to explain the empires' desire to stabilize wormholes, and thus the invention of such a deployable object. -CEO of AC-AF- |
Ashmira Wintereyes
Caldari Free Spirits
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Posted - 2009.09.03 08:01:00 -
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All that will be achieved by this idea is a firmer colonization of w-space as it will be made much easier to get a foot between the door sort of speak to supply POS'es etc.
This however was not the intention of w-space as CCP told in several publications, so i doubt it will ever happen unless they do a comple make-over on w-space.
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Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.09.03 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Terrus Valkin On the note of canon, it'd be simple enough to explain the empires' desire to stabilize wormholes, and thus the invention of such a deployable object.
A device to stabilize a natural wormhole was tried before. It exploded and resulted in millions of colonists being cut off from support and dying.
If the Terrans couldn't pull it off, I don't really understand why the Empires would be able to.
Originally by: Karanth Or, in other words, random people can't usurp rights from government because they are insane/bitter/vengeful/made of potato salad.
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2009.09.03 08:06:00 -
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It'd be neat, but it'd have to have a high cost and be destroyable. I don't really want it for "colonizing W-space" aspect as much as the interesting tactical aspect of having to defend secured wormholes, and black ops raids intending to cut off entire WH systems. It'd probably require sov too, or at least a nearby tower.
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.09.03 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ashmira Wintereyes
This however was not the intention of w-space as CCP told in several publications, so i doubt it will ever happen unless they do a comple make-over on w-space.
/edit .. wordchoice in first line.
Originally by: CCP Abathur
Originally by: Autobot Amarr I would probably agree that CCP didn't think we'd populate worm hole spaces with towers, carriers, dreadnoughts and capital industrial ships.
Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it...
stop spreading your lies
Originally by: Lana Torrin
I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.
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Ashmira Wintereyes
Caldari Free Spirits
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Posted - 2009.09.03 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: rubico1337
Originally by: Ashmira Wintereyes
This however was not the intention of w-space as CCP told in several publications, so i doubt it will ever happen unless they do a comple make-over on w-space.
/edit .. wordchoice in first line.
Originally by: CCP Abathur
Originally by: Autobot Amarr I would probably agree that CCP didn't think we'd populate worm hole spaces with towers, carriers, dreadnoughts and capital industrial ships.
Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it...
stop spreading your lies
First of all, stating wrong information by not reading every single thread on forums aint spreading lies so please do not flame as i only relayed the statements made when apochrypha came out that w-space was not intended for permanent residence but for more dynamic gameplay.
And second i still think the Op's idea isnt a good one.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.03 12:20:00 -
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I have an idea. No.
I have another idea. Features and Ideas. Use it. _____________________________________________
-Sketch, Certified Pharmacist
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:44:00 -
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Im close to giving up on WH's for exploration, the amount occupied has increased a lot. That may be bad luck, I don't know, but they have been useless for exploration in the last several weeks.
So they may as well make them K space and be done with it.
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Sangii
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Posted - 2009.09.03 15:23:00 -
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Yeah I'm going to go with no. Just completely no.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic Im close to giving up on WH's for exploration, the amount occupied has increased a lot. That may be bad luck, I don't know, but they have been useless for exploration in the last several weeks.
So they may as well make them K space and be done with it.
Go deeper.
Fake edit: Thats what she said. _____________________________________________
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Tenisha Retan
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:31:00 -
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This might actually not be a bad idea if done properly. WH space IS colonized, whether CCP or anyone else likes it or not, and as far as storyline goes, it only makes sense that with WH's popping up every 15 feet or so that people would attempt to do something with them.
I would agree that these would need some type of "assumed sovereignty" to deploy, and would cost quite a bit as well, but would they be worth it? very much so. Would they be game breaking? Not at all. Would people whine about it? Well, it wouldn't be a good idea if they didn't.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.09.03 17:41:00 -
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This would be a step toward large alliance take-over of w-space. Not supported. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Vladimir Gray
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:50:00 -
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I have to agree with the NO side.
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Terrus Valkin
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.04 02:12:00 -
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You guys seem to think that I'm supporting the idea of making permanent wormholes or making them long-term. Not quite... I mean a much more short-term approach, something to temporarily wedge a wormhole open. Even doubling the duration - as bad as that sounds - of a wormhole's existence would keep things unstable and unpredictable enough for w-space to remain the domain of adventurers rather than settlers. And as for w-space becoming too populated, I'm assuming most of the people claiming that are flying in class 1-3 space... the easiest to settle and the easiest to defend your POS in. It's only natural and completely predictable that it's being settled. Class 4-6 space, while it's seeing some settlement, is still vastly empty.
Besides, if such space weren't being so heavily exploited, then T3 prices would be even higher, and that's obviously not something CCP wants at this time.
But if you don't want it, you don't want it. Oh well. Also, sorry, didn't think of the features forum. -CEO of AC-AF- |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.09.04 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: rubico1337
Originally by: CCP Abathur Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it...
stop spreading your lies
I expect that CCP's intentions were along the lines of wanting players to set up bases in there, but not wanting colonisation of w-space to be easy or convenient. Thus it is possible to anchor POS and build capital ships, but there are no supplies of fuel apart from what you bring in yourself.
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.09.04 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: rubico1337
Originally by: CCP Abathur Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it...
stop spreading your lies
I expect that CCP's intentions were along the lines of wanting players to set up bases in there, but not wanting colonisation of w-space to be easy or convenient. Thus it is possible to anchor POS and build capital ships, but there are no supplies of fuel apart from what you bring in yourself.
i agree. and it by far isn not convenient at all. i primarily do it for the adventure and absence of local
the addition of a way to stabilize wormholes for longer times(twice its lifetime im thinking) than they usually are open isnt going to make an empire, if anything it will only allow a longer exploitation of adjacent systems or the ability to wait out stront timers
Originally by: Lana Torrin
I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2009.09.04 14:08:00 -
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I'd like to be able to point my analyzer at one and get some read on time and mass beyond vauge wording.
Worm hole Analyzer, needs astro lvl 3, 10 cpu, 2 pg, mid slot
thanks!
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aetherguy881
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.04 14:12:00 -
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Wormholes are fine as is, no change is needed. ------------------- Always remember this about EVE:
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