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Veritas Titan
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:17:00 -
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tier 3 ships setting up cargo containers labeled as "free ammo", and they literally wait there for hours waiting for a noob to 1-shot. whats the point of that? also, i didn't fall for that free ammo, i just observed it. |
Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:24:00 -
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As long as they don't do it in starter systems then it is legal. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
737
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:25:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:tier 3 ships setting up cargo containers labeled as "free ammo", and they literally wait there for hours waiting for a noob to 1-shot. whats the point of that? also, i didn't fall for that free ammo, i just observed it. As long as it isn't done in Rookie systems it is perfectly legal.
As for why... apply post modern logic. Pointlessness for the sake of pointlessness. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
170
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:48:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:...As for why... apply post modern logic. Pointlessness for the sake of pointlessness (and explosions). Say what?
The reason why is simply that some people will just as soon spit/punch you in the face as shake your hand (ie. socio-paths) .. since Eve provides them with an outlet that doesn't get them committed for psych evaluation those "special" (said with a lisp) kind of people naturally gravitate towards it, yielding the well above average percentage of straight-jacket ready individuals.
Post modern logic my ass
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Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
63
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:00:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:...and they literally wait there for hours waiting...
Veritas Titan wrote:... i just observed it....
Soooo...you were observing them for hours? What was the point of that? Or are you just making it up ( the 'hours' thing )?
As for your question. It is quite simple really - some EvE players are just idiots ( we have plenty of those FYI ). Nothing to be concerned with. Move along, mind your own business and for God's sake try NOT to be one of them |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
226
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:19:00 -
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People did that when I was a noob in 2009.. This is nothing new.. |
Veritas Titan
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:25:00 -
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Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:Veritas Titan wrote:...and they literally wait there for hours waiting... Veritas Titan wrote:... i just observed it.... Soooo...you were observing them for hours? What was the point of that? Or are you just making it up ( the 'hours' thing )? As for your question. It is quite simple really - some EvE players are just idiots ( we have plenty of those FYI ). Nothing to be concerned with. Move along, mind your own business and for God's sake try NOT to be one of them i was doing missions |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:28:00 -
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The thing is their is no wrong way to play EVE except for CCP banable game play. Why would someone do that for hours? No idea. But they must think it is fun otherwise they would not do it. Playing this game you get to see the full range of what people think is fun. Many times it will leave you scratching your head in wonder. |
Xi 'xar
Mise en Abyme
26
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Posted - 2012.06.04 07:26:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:...As for why... apply post modern logic. Pointlessness for the sake of pointlessness (and explosions). Say what? The reason why is simply that some people will just as soon spit/punch you in the face as shake your hand (ie. socio-paths) .. since Eve provides them with an outlet that doesn't get them committed for psych evaluation those "special" (said with a lisp) kind of people naturally gravitate towards it, yielding the well above average percentage of straight-jacket ready individuals. Post modern logic my ass
Confirming that I am one of those people and that the above is why I play eve. http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/explore-low-sec/ http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/live-low-sec/ http://mrsnypes.blogspot.com/2010/07/burnt-lands.html
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Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
148
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Posted - 2012.06.04 11:24:00 -
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It is good to hear that some one is still teaching people about how EVE mechanics works in reality.
What could be greater gift than finding player who is using several hours to seek people who need help on game mechanics. |
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Diesel47
Warlord General
15
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:33:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:...As for why... apply post modern logic. Pointlessness for the sake of pointlessness (and explosions). Say what? The reason why is simply that some people will just as soon spit/punch you in the face as shake your hand (ie. socio-paths) .. since Eve provides them with an outlet that doesn't get them committed for psych evaluation those "special" (said with a lisp) kind of people naturally gravitate towards it, yielding the well above average percentage of straight-jacket ready individuals. Post modern logic my ass
Griefers are sociopaths.
LOOOOOOOOOL |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1620
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:54:00 -
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There's a big fat warning of "Hey, if you take from this can, people can shoot you for it" every time you do that. If you're surprised when you get shot for doing something you KNEW could get you shot, I have no sympathy for you. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:24:00 -
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Welcome to the sandbox ***** ;) Is sexy time? |
Gitanmaxx
Viziam Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:52:00 -
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It is pretty bad.
And I like how people defend it saying, "it's legal." well yes, but being a d-bag is still being a d-bag even if it's allowed.
And being a jerk on the internet because your a loser in real life and want to grief others to make yourself feel better still makes you pathetic.
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Jacky Blue
SQUIDS.
8
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Posted - 2012.06.04 19:32:00 -
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I've seen people camp a gate for days on and off :D
What I think it intresting is how the conversations with their friends outside the game go.
"What you up to man?" -- "Camping a gate in Eve"
Then hours later "Hey dude, im back, what you up to?" -- "Still camping that gate...I killed an autopiloting-frigate though!"
Then again I have friends who think I'm sad for roaming around for about an hour without finding any fights lol. Guess it's all a matter of opinion. Sometimes I get bored -- http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoePpyYRpxJQ0jfS6xB-cTQ/videos |
Evil Stare
The Ghosts of Jutland
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 19:58:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:... i just observed it....
Stalker!
I have to say. If there was a big van on the side of the road with "Free Candy" written on the side. I'd expect if you opened the door and took some candy, you'd get ganked too. Yet another reason why Eve is real. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1625
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Posted - 2012.06.04 20:13:00 -
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Gitanmaxx wrote: I like how people defend it saying, "it's legal." What's not legal is taking stuff out of yellow cans. Which is why Concord warns you that they won't protect you from the can's owner(s) if you do so. (I should note, I don't camp stations with cans in front of them hoping for easy kills. I prefer to hunt my prey.
Gitanmaxx wrote:And being a jerk on the internet because your a loser in real life and want to grief others to make yourself feel better still makes you pathetic. Ahh, the classic "you must be a loser in real life!" argument. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
BearJews
Android Arms And Industrial Corporation Tenth Legion
38
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:16:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Gitanmaxx wrote: I like how people defend it saying, "it's legal." What's not legal is taking stuff out of yellow cans. Which is why Concord warns you that they won't protect you from the can's owner(s) if you do so. (I should note, I don't camp stations with cans in front of them hoping for easy kills. I prefer to hunt my prey. Gitanmaxx wrote:And being a jerk on the internet because your a loser in real life and want to grief others to make yourself feel better still makes you pathetic. Ahh, the classic "you must be a loser in real life!" argument. Ahh but the funny part it is the second part is quite true |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Valiant Star Operations
1
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:48:00 -
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Gitanmaxx wrote:It is pretty bad.
And I like how people defend it saying, "it's legal." well yes, but being a d-bag is still being a d-bag even if it's allowed.
And being a jerk on the internet because your a loser in real life and want to grief others to make yourself feel better still makes you pathetic.
You sure are a jerk. Oh wait... This is the internet... "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Flakey Foont
134
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:00:00 -
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Gitanmaxx wrote:It is pretty bad.
And I like how people defend it saying, "it's legal." well yes, but being a d-bag is still being a d-bag even if it's allowed.
And being a jerk on the internet because your a loser in real life and want to grief others to make yourself feel better still makes you pathetic.
I think it is lame but live and let live.
I think self-righteous people are bigger d-bags.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:16:00 -
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It's a game where 90% of the ships have guns...
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Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:51:00 -
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Requiring someone to actually LEARN to drive before getting behind the wheel, while a good idea, doesn't stop the average moron from jumping in there anyway. Requiring someone to LEARN to play EveO before doing whatever they want to do ALSO doesn't stop the average moron from doing it anyway (ie, taking from a can that doesn't belong to you).
As for why someone sits there just WAITING, who knows. Ask the morons who camp gates or stations. Nobody ever said only smart people play this game. |
Shaampoo
Fweddit
52
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:37:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:tier 3 ships setting up cargo containers labeled as "free ammo", and they literally wait there for hours waiting for a noob to 1-shot. whats the point of that? also, i didn't fall for that free ammo, i just observed it. You havent played many games
Spawn camping in BF2 was so ridiculous
age of Conan just turned into a giant free for all with horse's kicking people of bridges
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Mistress Milana
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:39:00 -
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Shaampoo wrote:Veritas Titan wrote:tier 3 ships setting up cargo containers labeled as "free ammo", and they literally wait there for hours waiting for a noob to 1-shot. whats the point of that? also, i didn't fall for that free ammo, i just observed it. You havent played many games Spawn camping in BF2 was so ridiculous age of Conan just turned into a giant free for all with horse's kicking people of bridges
Congrats. You just confirmed that you game 24/7 and don't get out ! |
Gitanmaxx
Viziam Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:24:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:Gitanmaxx wrote:It is pretty bad.
And I like how people defend it saying, "it's legal." well yes, but being a d-bag is still being a d-bag even if it's allowed.
And being a jerk on the internet because your a loser in real life and want to grief others to make yourself feel better still makes you pathetic.
I think it is lame but live and let live. I think self-righteous people are bigger d-bags.
I see not requiring the annoyance of others in order to achieve personal enjoyment as being a half way decent human, nothing spectacular or outlandish. Given the chance to be an arse-hat for no real reason some people will always jump at the chance, I guess I've just never understood that need.
Generally those who bully in online games are those who are pushed around in real life and want to feel control and push others around.
I prefer pvp in games where skill wins not picking on the new player. |
Rastin Crysknife
The Nommo
7
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:23:00 -
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Is it a silly, idiotic thing do do? Yes.
Is it legal within the rules of the game? Yes.
Should it be stopped? No.
While it is obviously just a means to troll and bully noobs, it inadvertently serves a purpose. It teaches any player that falls for it the lesson that anywhere you go in EvE, there is likely someone looking to kill you by some means for some reason, and the reason doesn't really matter, so learn the means, and adapt.
That is the challenge of EvE, and it is the sort of challenge that greatly appeals to me. Even if older players have an advantage, it is not an insurmountable advantage, and its more significant aspect isn't SP or ISK, but knowledge of the means by which those two assets can and should be used to your advantage.
Can flipping can be a hard lesson to learn, so it's better that the newbies learn early when their ship with fittings is worth less than 1M, than when they're running around in a tech3 cruiser or whatever. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1631
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:46:00 -
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Mistress Milana wrote:Congrats. You just confirmed that you game 24/7 and don't get out ! Hey look! Another trope of these threads! Right up there with "you're a loser in real life if you don't play nice" and "anyone who isn't nice in game is a sociopath" we also get to read "if you play more games than I do, you never go outside!"
Oh internet, you so predictable.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1631
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:51:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:As for why someone sits there just WAITING, who knows. Ask the morons who camp gates or stations. Nobody ever said only smart people play this game. I do occasionally engage in can baiting. I don't do it with a sniper Nado watching a "free ammo" can on an undock, I do it by dropping a can of ore or making a few rat wrecks somewhere and idling under cloak to see if anyone gets greedy. It's not a favorite past-time, I usually do it while I'm waiting on something to happen or getting locates on real targets. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
43
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:46:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:tier 3 ships setting up cargo containers labeled as "free ammo", and they literally wait there for hours waiting for a noob to 1-shot. whats the point of that? also, i didn't fall for that free ammo, i just observed it.
yeah GREAT isn-Št it? |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
91
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:58:00 -
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I usually just ignore the cans I see around gates or stations, but if you have the time and want to counter grief them it isn't hard, just get in a fast warping ship like a shuttle, usually the can doesn't contain a whole lot of stuff, often it will fit in the 10m3 of a shuttle. Open the can align with a safe spot or celestial, he won't shoot till you take something, because frankly his tier 3 BC isn't cheap and he'd loose it to concord if he shot before you looted. Grab the loot and warp. If you empty the can then its gone and he'll have to come back to the gate or station to put out another one if he wants to continue, if not wait till your GCC is over and do it again. |
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