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Koujjo Dian
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:46:00 -
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If I jump through a gate in a punisher and find a gate camp on the other side is it better to try and warp away or try to crawl back to the gate? |
Moonasha
Fweddit
64
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Posted - 2012.06.03 21:02:00 -
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depends on the gatecamp. If they have fast lockers, you should burn back |
Sokor Loro
Fweddit
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:08:00 -
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Moonasha wrote:depends on the gatecamp. If they have fast lockers, you should burn back
Yep, this. If you see interceptors I would crash the gate. Instacanes (or other sebo ships) can also lock/point you real quick.
The best thing I ever did to teach myself something in this game was to buy 10 Probes, find gate camps, and practice getting threw them or crashing the gate. I lost 7 before I figured out when was best to do what. Nothing beats experience. |
Koujjo Dian
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.06.03 22:43:00 -
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So the answer is "depends" lol. No really, that makes sense. Truthfully I can't even tell you what ship types they were. I saw flashy red and immediately started to warp out. I guess I should pay attention and see how long my cloak lasts when I jump through a gate so next time I know about how much time I have to make a decision. Thanks. |
Red zeon
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:03:00 -
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depends is it lowsec? u in a frig? just warp away u in 00? is it bubbled? u in frig? warp away 00 and its bubbled, can u fly 8k+ M/s burn out and warp 00 and its bubbled, burn back to gate |
Abbadon21
Cosmic Cimmerians The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:32:00 -
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Yeah, in most cases if there is no bubble and you are in a frigate you can warp before anything can lock you.
I made a video about escaping camps a while back. You can check it out here: http://www.eveproguides.com/escaping-gate-camps-video-guide/
Learn How PRO Players Make Billions of ISK and Dominate PVP: http://www.EVEProGuides.com |
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:54:00 -
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Is there a max align time one should keep in mind?
When deciding to wther or not you should burn to the gate or not?
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Marsan
Production N Destruction INC.
32
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Posted - 2012.06.04 08:33:00 -
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The thing to remember when you jump into a gate camp is to keep your head. Your gate cloak lasts for 30 seconds. Take a look at what you are facing. General I find a station, moon or customs office and target it. (Have an overview tab with this setup.) If you have a cloak and MW do this http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak_Trick. If not just hit warp and hope for the best. If you get pointed burn for the gate. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:39:00 -
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You have 1 minute of cloak time. Use that time to survey the camp and make an informed decision on what tactic to use. In something small warping off is typically the best alternative, where as something larger (and thus slower) usually burning back is best. But as has been said already its entirely dependent on the particular situation. Is sexy time? |
FuzzyButt
Snuff Box
3
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:51:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:You have 1 minute of cloak time. Use that time to survey the camp and make an informed decision on what tactic to use. In something small warping off is typically the best alternative, where as something larger (and thus slower) usually burning back is best. But as has been said already its entirely dependent on the particular situation.
Princess pls =3 |
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
43
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:44:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:Is there a max align time one should keep in mind?
When deciding to wther or not you should burn to the gate or not?
1 sec |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
43
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Posted - 2012.06.05 14:45:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:You have 1 minute of cloak time. Use that time to survey the camp and make an informed decision on what tactic to use. In something small warping off is typically the best alternative, where as something larger (and thus slower) usually burning back is best. But as has been said already its entirely dependent on the particular situation.
Wow, please visit my summer camp |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
168
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:46:00 -
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Honestly, your best bet is to die to the gate campers and then make an angry post somewhere on the forums about how they have no skill and criticize how they choose to use their time playing EVE. Calling them sociopaths in real life who only like to prey on people who don't want to fight is also a good option.
It doesn't matter if you lose a ship in EVE as long as you are sure to call out the other group on being less skilled at the game than you, even though you're the one with the dead ship.
The key thing i'm trying to say here is, don't change your playing style based on how other people enjoy playing the game. If someone else isn't playing the game in a way that is convenient for you, THEY are the ones doing it wrong and therefore must be bad at the game.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Aulx-Gao Ekanon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:50:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Honestly, your best bet is to die to the gate campers and then make an angry post somewhere on the forums about how they have no skill and criticize how they choose to use their time playing EVE. Calling them sociopaths in real life who only like to prey on people who don't want to fight is also a good option.
It doesn't matter if you lose a ship in EVE as long as you are sure to call out the other group on being less skilled at the game than you, even though you're the one with the dead ship.
This. I know how to win EVE now.
It's not paranoia if everyone really is out to get you.-á |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
113
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:26:00 -
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I've found success with warping as soon as I zone in, not waiting for a second. If they've been sitting there awhile and semi afkish...one guy in the group is probably watching the gate and may say "hey someone just warped in" to get the others ready to lock.
If the pointers happen to be the ones semi-afk in the time it takes them to realize its their cue, you're already gone.
If you sit and wait there for 30 seconds, it'll give them time to be ready to pounce the second you decloak.
I've landed in gate camps in my industrial and, after hitting warp immediately...had only one, maybe two guys in a 6-man gate camp start locking me.
The same tactic works if you jump into a gate camp from the back end and they all follow you through the gate.
This doesn't work if they have a scout and know you're coming. In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
113
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:51:00 -
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An attempt to warp out almost never works. |
Arianne Stone
Black Rebel Rifter Club
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:14:00 -
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Depends on the camp size and what ships there are, i've only been caught in a frig once or twice and gone through many gate camps.
And i usually just warp out. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
505
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Posted - 2012.06.07 21:33:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:I've found success with warping as soon as I zone in, not waiting for a second. If they've been sitting there awhile and semi afkish...one guy in the group is probably watching the gate and may say "hey someone just warped in" to get the others ready to lock.
If the pointers happen to be the ones semi-afk in the time it takes them to realize its their cue, you're already gone.
If you sit and wait there for 30 seconds, it'll give them time to be ready to pounce the second you decloak.
I've landed in gate camps in my industrial and, after hitting warp immediately...had only one, maybe two guys in a 6-man gate camp start locking me.
The same tactic works if you jump into a gate camp from the back end and they all follow you through the gate.
This doesn't work if they have a scout and know you're coming. I concur with this. Depending on what ship you fly, waiting for [insert_random_numbers_here] seconds before you go when there are inties or light tackles about could be a worse idea than warping out instantly (generally, warping out when there are inties camping you while you're in a big ship isn't a good idea though), because in that time they can prepare themselves and wait until you break gate cloak.
"Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
585
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Posted - 2012.06.07 22:22:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:You have 1 minute of cloak time. Wow, please visit my summer camp Yes, he'll be there as your instructor, nubbins. You have a full 60 seconds of gate cloak, even during summer |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.06.08 04:36:00 -
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Koujjo Dian wrote:So the answer is "depends" lol. No really, that makes sense. Truthfully I can't even tell you what ship types they were. I saw flashy red and immediately started to warp out. I guess I should pay attention and see how long my cloak lasts when I jump through a gate so next time I know about how much time I have to make a decision. Thanks.
In low sec I have found that if I have an MWD - I burn back. One quick pulse and your on the gate clicking(spamming) jump just in time. This works for me 99% of the time.
If no MWD - Look for a Celestial or something else in line (in front of your ship) with where you jumped in. Find whatever you are most aligned to, try warp to it and hope for the best. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.06.08 04:42:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:
Wow, please visit my summer camp
LOL - Just hit self destruct now dude. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
44
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Posted - 2012.06.08 17:50:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:You have 1 minute of cloak time. Wow, please visit my summer camp Yes, he'll be there as your instructor, nubbins. You have a full 60 seconds of gate cloak, even during summer
Quote:IbanezLaney Posted: 2012.06.08 04:42
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Wow, please visit my summer camp
LOL - Just hit self destruct now dude.
The longer you wait the surer you die.
..and where do you guys even get the gate camp expirience from..ok Arec must be some kind of prodder or trade-char and you little Ibanez do not seem to be particular successfull in pvp of any kind...are you ?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
746
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Posted - 2012.06.09 01:32:00 -
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Learning by doing (making mistakes and learning from them) is highly recommended.
I went through a gate in a cyno rookie ship and found myself in a bubble guarded by an Oracle. I decided to slow-boat out of the bubble, because the Oracle was close enough that he'd have to get rather lucky to hit me with any traversal. Sure enough, the Oracle couldn't touch me.
I was about half-way out when a Hound arrived on grid and started firing torps at me. He actually hit me for a few points of shield damage of course, but I wasn't really worried about him, and continued out of the bubble.
Then an Ares landed on grid and at that moment I figured I was screwed. He of course quickly took me into deep structure.
However through all this, none of them pointed me, and I managed to get out of the bubble and warp away
I then made my biggest mistake: I bounced around safes for a while before heading to the next gate (I wanted my shield to recharge as I only had a sliver of structure), allowing their timers to expire. Later as I landed on grid at the outbound gate and jumped, so did the Ares land on grid and jump, and I knew the chase was over at that point. I was podded on a bubble-free gate.
Looking back, I'm guessing both the cloaked Hound and the Ares were based at the outbound gate, hence they weren't on-grid at the inbound gate with the bubble when I first came through. They were probably trying to catch me bouncing around safes, hence we landed on-grid at the outbound gate at the same time.
I went at least 35 jumps through nulsec, avoiding many drag bubbles, only to blow it on the first bubble I hit directly on a gate. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
24
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Posted - 2012.06.09 03:31:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:You have 1 minute of cloak time. Wow, please visit my summer camp Yes, he'll be there as your instructor, nubbins. You have a full 60 seconds of gate cloak, even during summer Quote:IbanezLaney Posted: 2012.06.08 04:42
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Wow, please visit my summer camp
LOL - Just hit self destruct now dude. The longer you wait the surer you die. ..and where do you guys even get the gate camp expirience from..ok Arec must be some kind of prodder or trade-char and you little Ibanez do not seem to be particular successfull in pvp of any kind...are you ?
Didn't say I was - But Nex is and that's who you invited to your camp. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
162
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Posted - 2012.06.09 04:03:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:[ Didn't say I was - But Nex is and that's who you invited to your camp.
Its really quite foolish to argue with tundragon when it comes to gatecamps.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.06.09 08:55:00 -
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Confirming Princess Nexxala is for sure a better pilot than I am. Quantum Cats Syndicate is a known entity to us as well. Nowwhere in my post I put the things she posted in question. What I wrote stands for itself. I just do not know why some people always try to read everything as it was a flame...
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