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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2009.09.07 01:04:00 -
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Me having done a lot of Solo PvP, I am living proof of you being Fajl.
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Kovorix
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Posted - 2009.09.07 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Lebroi Very nicely done. What a pity that some players can't overcome their jealously sufficiently to post anything worthwhile.
This is a massive circle jerk. I don't doubt that the OP had fun doing what he did, and that's cool, but it was not video worthy. The fact is that the video doesn't showcase any pilot skill; his enemies are all in smaller ships that his harbinger is DESIGNED to kill, and on top of that they are all idiots. Did you notice in some fights he is barely even taken through shields? All he had to do was target and shoot, and even then he failed with tackle management. His lack of skill is obvious in his fit: no MWD, the single most important tactical tool in the game, especially solo.
There are lots of excellent solo pvp videos out there, and the OP would do well to learn from them before making his next video.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.09.07 03:48:00 -
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The lack of propulsion mod is fantastically fail.
I can't even begin to tell you how many times MWDs saved my hide, solo'ing or not. Given the Harbinger has a great range advantage compared to other BCs, its a slap in the face to give up that whole aspect of the ship.
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People Eater
Brute Strength
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Posted - 2009.09.07 04:46:00 -
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Thank you for posting the video! I haven't played much in the past year or so, this really brought out the nostalgia of the good ol' days taking my hurricane out for joy rides. Perhaps it's time to bring out the duct tape and have some fun
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.09.07 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 07/09/2009 07:47:44
Originally by: Artemis Rose The lack of propulsion mod is fantastically fail.
I can't even begin to tell you how many times MWDs saved my hide, solo'ing or not. Given the Harbinger has a great range advantage compared to other BCs, its a slap in the face to give up that whole aspect of the ship.
You don't need a propulsion mod when you use a covt opts alt, to land on top of your opponents safe spots while doing "solo" PVP. Just like the start of his video where the text says "There are no lone targets".. Welp he's not alone either..
btw at 1:00 in the video, you can see his neural covt ops alt in local "Jehtro1" right as he warps in on the Rupture..
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari Black Thorne Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.07 09:12:00 -
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also in FW everyone and their mother is flying frigates with warp scrams. So with a bc, your mwd would be shut down about 99% of the time anyways. So why even bother to fit a useless mod and give up on a very valueable mid slot.
Harby with scorch has enough range to reach any target that uses a warp disruptor against you anyways. So no MWD needed to get in range.
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2009.09.07 12:23:00 -
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Great vid Swatyy, really shows what a fearsome ship the harby is in the right hands. As far as all the naysayers ar concerned, someone alwsys thinks they've seen/done or know better, who cares ? You state your case well that these "facts" are merely cliches that more of us should be trying to ignore when we play. Good work ...see you in kamela o/
I has 17 XBOX can I get sov ??
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Kovorix
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Posted - 2009.09.07 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kovorix on 07/09/2009 16:13:01
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki also in FW everyone and their mother is flying frigates with warp scrams. So with a bc, your mwd would be shut down about 99% of the time anyways. So why even bother to fit a useless mod and give up on a very valueable mid slot.
Harby with scorch has enough range to reach any target that uses a warp disruptor against you anyways. So no MWD needed to get in range.
When flying solo you are flying against larger gangs. The only way to defeat superior numbers (i don't mean just outnumbered, but also against more tank and dps) is to engage them when they are divided. This requires the use of a mwd. once the battle has begun, you're right, he does better not having one, but if you fly solo and engage against the odds (which he never did in this video), you must tactically use a mwd.
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Opethian Obiri
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Posted - 2009.09.07 16:20:00 -
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nice work!
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Zanco Ceal
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.09.07 23:12:00 -
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you really dont need a mwd for that type of harb fit. you just need to choose your fights alittle more carefully.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.09.08 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 08/09/2009 02:07:41
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki also in FW everyone and their mother is flying frigates with warp scrams. So with a bc, your mwd would be shut down about 99% of the time anyways. So why even bother to fit a useless mod and give up on a very valueable mid slot.
^^
Funny reading these know-it-alls who don't see what's in-front of their noses.
edit: those that say no-MWD = fail
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Kovorix
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Posted - 2009.09.08 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kovorix on 08/09/2009 02:37:00 Edited by: Kovorix on 08/09/2009 02:35:40
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 08/09/2009 02:07:41
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki also in FW everyone and their mother is flying frigates with warp scrams. So with a bc, your mwd would be shut down about 99% of the time anyways. So why even bother to fit a useless mod and give up on a very valueable mid slot.
^^
Funny reading these know-it-alls who don't see what's in-front of their noses.
edit: those that say no-MWD = fail
I see it alright, but that point of view is also operating on the assumption that all FW pilots are idiotic enough to get into web/scram range of a harbinger in their frigate. Even sacrificing a slot for a mwd leaves plenty of mid slots to utterly destroy any t1 frig, af, or inty with medium drones/turrets.
Honestly I have a very difficult time believing the only types of engagements in FW are the ones represented in this video, or even that more than a small minority are. I submit that the OP's fit was very efficient for dealing with the situations he showed, but the fact is in a fight against gangs with enough firepower to actually give him a good fight (ie the majority of gangs in eve) he will fail miserably.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.09.08 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kovorix
Honestly I have a very difficult time believing the only types of engagements in FW are the ones represented in this video
Good things he's choosing those engagements then eh :-P
There are times during slow hours in FW where the matar "fleet" consists of a bunch of frigs running around without an FC.
It doesn't work in 0.0 you say? Who cares!
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rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.09.08 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
There are times during slow hours in FW where the matar "fleet" consists of a bunch of frigs running around without an FC.
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
I'm getting pretty ****ed off with the supposedly hard core PvPers complaining about every little thing that gets changed. seriously, more tears than carebears.
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