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Psytropic
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Posted - 2009.09.17 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ytterbium Edited by: CCP Ytterbium on 04/09/2009 18:38:17 Edited by: CCP Ytterbium on 04/09/2009 18:34:22 Edited by: CCP Ytterbium on 04/09/2009 17:17:15 I. Navy Frigates:
Due to their split weapon layout and lack of dedicated role, navy frigates usefulness remains quite limited. We plan to turn them into an hybrid of interceptors and Assault frigate classes, combining points of both, being less specialized than the Tech2 hulls, thus more versatile but less resilient.
Amarr Navy Slicer:
̣Has been renamed to Imperal Navy Slicer ̣New slot layout: 3 high, 2 med and 5 low slots, 2 turrets, no launchers ̣Fittings: 115 CPU, 47 powergrid ̣Bonuses: 25% to small energy turret damage and 10% to turret range bonus per Amarr Frigate skill level ̣Hitpoints: not changed, keeps 50% more hit points buffer next to its tech 1 counterpart (Punisher) ̣Capacitor: 500 capacitor, 281.55s recharge (about 1.8 cap/s) ̣Speed: 390m/s, 3.3 agility ̣Sensor: 31km targeting range, 4 locked targets, 550mm scan resolution, 10 radar sensor strength, 38m signature radius
Caldari Navy Hookbill:
̣New slot layout: 3 high, 5 med, 2 low slots, 3 launchers, no turrets ̣Fittings: 165 CPU, 37 powergrid ̣Bonuses: 20% to missile kinetic damage, 10% to other missile damage, 10% to missile velocity per level ̣Hitpoints: not changed, keeps 50% more hit points buffer next to its tech 1 counterpart (Merlin) ̣Capacitor: 281 capacitor, 187.5s recharge (about 1.5 cap/s) ̣Speed: 370m/s, 3.3 agility ̣Sensor: 35km targeting range, 4 locked targets, 600mm scan resolution, 12 gravimetric sensor strength, 40m signature radius
Gallente Navy Comet:
̣Has been renamed to Federation Navy Comet ̣New slot layout: 3 high, 3 med, 4 low slots, 2 turrets, no launchers ̣Fittings: 152 CPU, 40 powergrid ̣Bonuses: 20% small hybrid turret damage and 7.5% small hybrid turret tracking per level ̣Hitpoints: not changed, keeps 50% more hit points buffer next to its tech 1 counterpart (Tristan) ̣Dronebay increased to 30m3, drone bandwidth increased to 15m3 ̣Capacitor: 365 capacitor, 234.375s recharge (about 1.55 cap/s) ̣Speed: 350m/s, 3.3 agility ̣Sensor: 32km targeting range, 4 locked targets, 580mm scan resolution, 11 magnetometric sensor strength, 42m signature radius
Republic Fleet Firetail:
̣New slot layout: 3 high, 4 med, 3 low, 2 turrets, 2 launchers ̣Fittings: 140 CPU, 39 powergrid ̣Bonuses: 20% small projectile turret damage and 7.5% small projectile turret tracking per level ̣Hitpoints: not changed, keeps 50% more hit points buffer next to its tech 1 counterpart (Rifter) ̣Capacitor: 250 capacitor, 187.5s recharge (about 1.3 cap/s) ̣Speed: 410m/s, 3.2 agility ̣Sensor: 30km targeting range, 4 locked targets, 560mm scan resolution, 9 ladar sensor strength, 36m signature radius
Why do all the Navy Frigs fall in line with their Assault frig hull EXCEPT the Gallente one being based on the Tristan not the Incursus?
Also, I think the Comet needs 25m3 bandwidth.
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John Burdell
Caldari Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2009.09.17 07:39:00 -
[572]
New navythron skin is terrible, the old one was perfect for the ship- just keep it how it is right now. Like the other changes so far, makes is much easier to fit full racks of neutrons for that extra bit of pew |
wallenbergaren
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Posted - 2009.09.17 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 16/09/2009 23:13:56
I'm going to call it now.
Navy Dominixes everywhere ingame a few months down the line.
The normal dominix was already the unmatched bargain basement battleship king of 1v1's.
+1 mid and +1 low amonst the other things, damn.
Also;
lol @ Minmatar ships, gotta feel sorry for them.
Did I miss something?
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Aionstar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 08:01:00 -
[574]
ccp wtf? you wanna boost amarr more? ok, ok , give them royal blue, white... or add i win button to ships... but, do not touch Navy Megathron color paint! your green camouflage in space looks idiotic
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Tomarix Vindigo
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Posted - 2009.09.17 08:31:00 -
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Quote: Gallente Navy Comet:
̣ Has been renamed to Federation Navy Comet ̣ New slot layout: 3 high, 3 med, 4 low slots, 2 turrets, no launchers ̣ Fittings: 152 CPU, 40 powergrid ̣ Bonuses: 20% small hybrid turret damage and 7.5% small hybrid turret tracking per level ̣ Hitpoints: not changed, keeps 50% more hit points buffer next to its tech 1 counterpart (Tristan) ̣ Dronebay increased to 30m3, drone bandwidth increased to 15m3 ̣ Capacitor: 365 capacitor, 234.375s recharge (about 1.55 cap/s) ̣ Speed: 350m/s, 3.3 agility ̣ Sensor: 32km targeting range, 4 locked targets, 580mm scan resolution, 11 magnetometric sensor strength, 42m signature radius
Don't like it. You say it is based on the Tristan, but you strip the single gallente missile boat of its launchers to make another *yawn* drone frig. I only fly the Comet for occasional missile fun. When I want to use small drones, I use the Ishkur. The AF is even cheaper. The Tristan has launchers, the new Comet doesn't. The Tristan has four high slots, the new Comet doesn't. Don't tell us, the new Comet is still based on the Tristan.
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Monogamia
The Corrupt
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Posted - 2009.09.17 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Monogamia on 17/09/2009 08:58:09 http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8029/vlcsnap322038f.png
Screenshot from Trinity teaser. Proves once again that CCP videos does not belong to the game that we play.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.17 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ezekiel Sulastin on 17/09/2009 09:19:14
Originally by: Monogamia Edited by: Monogamia on 17/09/2009 08:58:09 http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8029/vlcsnap322038f.png
Screenshot from Trinity teaser. Proves once again that CCP videos does not belong to the game that we play.
Actually, that's a screenshot of the normal Megathron, and the outcome of the original 'baby blue' Gallente Trinity skin in dark lighting.
I kinda miss that idea - I kinda wish they had gone with the same light hull color but a more saturated blue for that, but what we did get is better than pastels :S
Does anyone remember back when the Vexor was a knife-edged ship with a stark front end instead of a Domi-esque miniblob? :p ----
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Aionstar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 09:27:00 -
[578]
dead black base color was perfect why it was changed to gray/baby-blue?
in next addon pink-camo nyx model be swap with navitas model =(
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Aionstar dead black base color was perfect why it was changed to gray/baby-blue?
That was a lighting trick. ----
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Veveritz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 10:33:00 -
[580]
CCP really wants to constantly nerf Minmatar, bring back my mid slot FFS. AT least i could do some buffer shield tank with gyros (because dps of autos SUCK), now I can do ****... sure, it is somewhat useful in a range fight but it kills the close range stup because I can't do that "versatility" build with 6 turrets / 2 neut.
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Cornette
Gallente Black Screen of Death Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:47:00 -
[581]
So the fleet tempest will go from being just "ok" to bad?
And nothing new from CCP on this so far either.
Guess that leaves me only the navy mega to fly, if I can stand it after it gets its new puke cameo
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Melanie Griffin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:18:00 -
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What about the "new" Navy cruisers like Osprey, Scythe, Exequeror etc? Considering the a actual availibale contracts of 2 per ship in whole new eden, i think they could use a review much more than anything else ;)
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Linas IV
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Linas IV on 17/09/2009 12:43:18 I just tested out the new Tempest Fleet issue on Sisi, and there is just one complaint:
It has not enough powergrid!
Give it at leat enough to fit 7x1400s II + Named 100mn MWD + 1x 1600 RT Plate
(atm. it needs AWU 5 to fit with an RCU II)
Please do it, if you want it to be used!
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Dr Karsun
Gallente Husarian Loyalists
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:11:00 -
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A pretty nice way to try to revive FW. I doubt it will work thought... The problem with FW wasn't the lack of reward... One of the many problems was that it was ment to be a 'noob pvp environment' and it is not... Still, Caldari Militia will kick ass because of their numbers and Gallente militia will be conquered because they don't do high sec caldari space roams...
Any way, maybe it will help a bit, but I highly doubt...
Too bad, FW really was fun some time ago.
PLUS - getting LP points from FW wasn't easy either, running 20j for one single mission behind enemy lines to come back and get a few k lp was not really easy... So yeah, maybe this adds a little bit of reward to FW, but I doubt the FW domi will be sold below 2-3b isk... At least for the first 6-12 months...
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2009.09.17 13:39:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Melanie Griffin What about the "new" Navy cruisers like Osprey, Scythe, Exequeror etc? Considering the a actual availibale contracts of 2 per ship in whole new eden, i think they could use a review much more than anything else ;)
These ships should be changed to be actually useful.
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Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.17 14:59:00 -
[586]
Navy Megas are BLACK, not baby blue, not camo, not orange or w/e else color you have in the database already....BLACK.
Really no good reason to change the skin on this ship, I can kinda understand the new Navy Domi, but leave the navy mega alone.
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Linas IV
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:28:00 -
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Again to the Tempest Fleet issue, let me show you the problem:
New Tempest Fleet Issue:
Fitting 1: 6x 1400mm II (yes 6 out of 7), 1x 100mn MWD 2x Gyro II, 1x1600 RT,
=> 500 Dps with RF Emp, Still has powergrid to spare for a RR and has 2 untility highs.
Fitting 2: 7x 1400mm II, 1x 100mn MWD 1x Gyro II, 1x RCU II, 1x 1600 RT
=> 485 DPS with RF Emp (less than fitting 1!), needs AWU V, is completly out of grid and has 35 CPU less that Fitting 1.
Now tell me please, what is the use of adding a 7th turret to a navy ship, if using only 6 gets you a better result because of the serious fitting issues?!
This is broken
Either give us more grid or give us the 6th Medslot back. (or reduce the fitting cost of Large-Arties alltogether)
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Tuberider
Caldari Pothouse Cartel IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:13:00 -
[588]
Factional Warfare LP stores (and only through them) how totally ****ing gay Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist Thanks for Your Stuff |
Natasha Nikolaev
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:14:00 -
[589]
Holy crap new navy mega skin is fugly. PLEASE do not take that skin to TQ.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:00:00 -
[590]
I don't understand why all the jungle and desert camouflage color is all about. Black ships are more in camo with dark space and they're so to die for. Or why not add black/shades of grey camo colors instead of the old jungle/desert vanillas?
Black ships are scarier, IMO.
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something somethingdark
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:04:00 -
[591]
i just realized
boost the imperial armageddon ... if somebody still has one ... it should get more structure n stuffs than the navy geddon!
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Crope
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:24:00 -
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Don't know if this was mentioned earlier in this thread, But it would be nice if there was a BPC offer for the Navy tier 1 Battleships (and perhaps the lower tier cruisers), Doesn't need to cost any less. Just so that its a little easier/cheaper to get one out in 0.0 etc.
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JinChilla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:24:00 -
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As i hardly cant believe that we will get 7 Turrets Slots with 6 med slots, I would be fine with this:
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Tempest Fleet Issue:
̣OLD SLOT LAYOUT: ̣Fittings: 577 CPU, 17050 powergrid ̣Dronebay increased by 25m3, bandwidth unchanged ̣Speed: +10% max velocity and agility increased by 10%
I cant get a clue why a singe Large Projectile Turret should be better than a med slot + a second utility/missile launcher slot...(this is not sarcasm!)
I really love the mighty allien stealthy Speed/Agility boost, with the fitting boosts and an increased dronebay the Tempest FI would be worth at least my isk.
greetings ==Sig== [2009.01.26 13:26:00]Kashimir: Very rational way to deal with this... [2009.01.26 13:48:00]CCP Claw: Don't say that out loud, people might think that we know what we're doing! |
Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:52:00 -
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All this camo on navy ships.....why?!?!? Just have them be darker and more metallic than their regular counterparts. Maybe with some unsettling lighting tricks going on or something. Just not camo. This is sci-fi guys, not freaking Army Studs.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.09.17 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vrikshaka All this camo on navy ships.....why?!?!? Just have them be darker and more metallic than their regular counterparts. Maybe with some unsettling lighting tricks going on or something. Just not camo. This is sci-fi guys, not freaking Army Studs.
Have you seen the Amarr Armageddon and Apocalypse......
They look quite amazing.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.17 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 17/09/2009 18:09:10
Originally by: Vrikshaka All this camo on navy ships.....why?!?!? Just have them be darker and more metallic than their regular counterparts. Maybe with some unsettling lighting tricks going on or something. Just not camo. This is sci-fi guys, not freaking Army Studs.
This. If camo's are absolutely needed, then add camos that fit the theme of Eve: black, dark red, dark orange, did I mention black yet? Oooh, how about BLACK? Get the hint yet?
Or do something like what you did with the Armageddon. Now there's a ship that causes drool .
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.17 19:31:00 -
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Overall I am quite disappointed.
Comparing stat for stat the new navy tier 1 bs are pretty much the tech 1 bs with a new paint job. slightly better stats but nothing spectacular unless you are looking at the navy scorpion, which had all its bonuses changed. or the extra mid slot like in the navy geddon.
Critique 1.
Navy means - supposed to be better in everything than the tech 1 / tier 1.
Suggestions
ALL SHIPS except for the navy scorpion - up the base resistances for shields and armor by 5% - cammo skin is meh. instead of jungle cammo try a blue / grey / black tones for cammo.
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Navy domni - up the bonuses by 5%. like 15% to drone damage /hit points and
Navy scorp - put on 1 of the ECM bonuses, otherwise its just a repackaged rattle snake.
Navy phoon - add a 5% projectile damage bonus per minnie bs skill level.
Navy geddon - 5% bonus energy weapons per amarr bs level.
Tier 2 bs.
General -------- cammo sucks.
Fleet pest up the turret damage / rof bonus to 7.5%
navy mega up the hybrid damage to 7.5%
navy apocy hard to say with this one. but a 3% bonus damage for energy weapons
navy raven Im still thinking, but a 3.5% bonuse to kin missile damage per level. you know to fit with all the other caldari ships
I dont know just really tossing out some ideas there. but the idea is navy ships are supposed to be 1 step above everything else. minor damage boosts and base resists would make them more worth while.
yes feel free to tear apart my suggestion. but honestly the differences should be more than just cpu /pg and hp bonuses. --------------------------
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.09.17 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: King Rothgar on 17/09/2009 21:08:43 The slicer has been nerfed hard on SISI even though the intent was to boost it. It does marginally more damage at a little more range however it lost 900m/s of speed. This happened because the fitting nerf on it to compensate for the removal of a turret is more than the turret actually used. In fact, it's about 3x what the turret used. The result is that currently on TQ, I have mine fitted with a mwd, on sisi I was forced to downgrade to an AB using the exact same fit minus one gun. With amarr frigate 4 it does basically the same damage, with 5 it will be a little bit higher but still, I'd rather have the speed. -----------------------------------------------------
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TheLibrarian
Minmatar Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.09.17 21:22:00 -
[599]
I love all the changes to all of the ships, I think they are well thought out and balanced for the ship type.
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Jek Tar'qul
Gallente Ferrum Superum
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Posted - 2009.09.17 21:25:00 -
[600]
Where the **** did my god damn black paintjob go on my Navy Mega?!?!? **** you CCP, **** you and your ****ty camo ****jobs. Navy Domi also looks like a pile of brown and green dog ****.
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