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Trvaeler
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Posted - 2009.09.07 05:39:00 -
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For Serpentis missions only..and occasional ratting when there's nobody in local
DCII MAR II EANM II AKH II EANM II ATH II
ECCM-M-2 ECCM-M-2 ECCM-M-2
250mm II 250mm II 250mm II 250mm II Covert Ops Cloak II Core Probe Launcher II
2 X CCC II 1 X CCC I
Dissolution Sequencer Augmented Plating Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Covert Reconfiguration Interdiction Nullifier
5x Hobgoblin II
EFT gives me about 560 tank, 117k EHP and 265 DPS, against Serpentis
Being a relatively new player and a "loner high sec Carebear" :P , I wanted to be as safe as possible... that's why I gimped this Proteus with the covert reconfiguration, immunity to bubbles and immunity to probing (185 sensor strength vs 168 sig radius according to EFT)
... So it's the ideal ship for me, except for the lack of DPS and AB... Any suggestions on a different fit with better DPS and maybe an AB .. frankly, I'd be extremely happy with 350ish .. and anything over 300 will probably do... Not willing to give up the ability to warp cloaked and immunity to bubbles though. A fit with blasters will need an AB.
Thanks
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Dahlia Houghton
Blood Traders Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.09.07 10:23:00 -
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Drones are pointless when you are fitting that much ecm, deploy drones and you might as well not bother with the ECCM in the mids. Also I'd fit a AB even if you use rails just in case you need to snipe/burn off the warpin when someone probes you out (if they can). Take it you are running lvl2's in that fit though.
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Cardiana
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Posted - 2009.09.07 11:11:00 -
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weirdo fit
get an ishtar
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Trvaeler
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cardiana weirdo fit
get an ishtar
I have an ishtar, and it's a nice ship, but my domi, even my navy mega goes through missions much faster. And all these can be easily probed out / gotten at gate camps.
About 3 weeks after I started playing eve, I was doing high-sec level 4s in a navy mega, with about 550dps tank and 350dps ...took a while, but never lost it and could always finish the missions.
The point was to get a fit that can survive in 0.0 hostile space solo, while 'doing stuff' .. ie; can't be probed, can't be gate camped and can warp cloaked...be it missions or ratting or whatever... Thought I'd focus on one type of rat since it's easier on a fitting to tank mor effectively for specific damage than to omni.
I tried the whole 0.0 thing and staying aligned, safestop and cloak ... works fine, never lost a ship but I might as well stay in high sec because the extra security measures means I wasn't able to do much...every few mins someone enters local and I have to wait them out cloaked. Tried a bunch of different regions..all the same...mostly empty space, but every few minutes, someone passes through or comes to rat or comes looking for me because their intel channels informed them a stranger was in 'their' region.
So just wondering if anyone has a higher DPS fit, without losing the cloak, bubble and probe immunity..... come on EFT warriors!! |
Trvaeler
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dahlia Houghton Drones are pointless when you are fitting that much ecm, deploy drones and you might as well not bother with the ECCM in the mids. Also I'd fit a AB even if you use rails just in case you need to snipe/burn off the warpin when someone probes you out (if they can). Take it you are running lvl2's in that fit though.
Yeah, good point, guess the drones would only come out if there's nobody in local, or if my alt at the station shows the 1-2 people in system are docked (noticed that happens frequently). So that gimps my DPS even further.
Using scanner to watch for probes is a gank waiting to happen.. several times, I've gotten caught up in something for literally only a few seconds and someone was on top of me.
If money is no issue, any fit that can give me descent enough DPS? ... 550 tank is enough for me level 4s (the ones I do in high sec anyway) if I manage aggro...just need more DPS. I can finish level IIIs with this fit in high sec no problem, and am assuming level IIIs in low sec are an order of magnitude more profitable....+ the chance of officer mods dropping (or am I wrong on this?)
But I've never 'ratted' with it in 0.0 ... What's the minimum DPS needed for the big bounty BS' ? |
Aaronm100
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.09.07 18:30:00 -
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The minimum dps needed for a high bounty rat isn't alot, i've killed them in an ishkur.
That said, if you run into a camp with this then you are going to die. No MWD = death. Even with the bubble nullifier you still will get caught by any self respecting inty pilot and you won't be able to get back to the gate.
Also where are you getting a core probe launcher II? Am i missing something?
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xxxak
Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:02:00 -
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You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
You will make WAY WAY more isk per hour running missions in High Sec in a Raven.
You will eventually fall asleep at the keyboard and get ganked. Or get unlucky on a gate. Or whatever. You will LOSE the ship.
In the mean time, it has less DPS than my Taranis, and it just plain SUCKS. It will take you two hours to do one mission.
You might have made a VAGUELY interesting fit, but you are TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT of the ENTIRE game.
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
You will make WAY WAY more isk per hour running missions in High Sec in a Raven.
You will eventually fall asleep at the keyboard and get ganked. Or get unlucky on a gate. Or whatever. You will LOSE the ship.
In the mean time, it has less DPS than my Taranis, and it just plain SUCKS. It will take you two hours to do one mission.
You might have made a VAGUELY interesting fit, but you are TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT of the ENTIRE game.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!
inb4 stealth edit |
ASCHAYA
Gallente Project Kiev
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
You and YOUR alliance are HORRIBLE at eve, be quiet whit yer lame chestbeating isk farmer!
And OP read forums about fitts before you buy any or post a wierd fitt as you just did, its a lolfitt and if you get ganked you will be smacked to hell and back in local for flying whit a fitting like that. Get T2 heavy drones kin/thm faction pref tank when your in serpentis/gurista regions, CCC rigs 1 nanobot mayby t2 Ab webs painter if you like. And get propper skills up mate. dont just fly a t3 ship for ~900mills and fitt like an ars :)
ANd where the *beep* did you get eccm mods from???
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xxxak
Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.09.07 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: ASCHAYA
Originally by: xxxak You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
You and YOUR alliance are HORRIBLE at eve, be quiet whit yer lame chestbeating isk farmer!
And OP read forums about fitts before you buy any or post a wierd fitt as you just did, its a lolfitt and if you get ganked you will be smacked to hell and back in local for flying whit a fitting like that. Get T2 heavy drones kin/thm faction pref tank when your in serpentis/gurista regions, CCC rigs 1 nanobot mayby t2 Ab webs painter if you like. And get propper skills up mate. dont just fly a t3 ship for ~900mills and fitt like an ars :)
ANd where the *beep* did you get eccm mods from???
I have never heard of you or your alliance, but you probably suck more. Anyways, my points to the OP are all 100% spot on.
As you yourself pointed out, it is shameful to fit a T3 ship as he did.
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Trvaeler
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aaronm100 The minimum dps needed for a high bounty rat isn't alot, i've killed them in an ishkur.
That said, if you run into a camp with this then you are going to die. No MWD = death. Even with the bubble nullifier you still will get caught by any self respecting inty pilot and you won't be able to get back to the gate.
Also where are you getting a core probe launcher II? Am i missing something?
I understand the risks of the gatecamps, they are low enough for it to be worth it for me though :) I may have just been lucky so far, but 95%+ of the time, I can cloak up and warp away before anything locks me. It does happen and will happen though, only a matter of time as with any other ship/fit |
Trvaeler
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
You will make WAY WAY more isk per hour running missions in High Sec in a Raven.
You will eventually fall asleep at the keyboard and get ganked. Or get unlucky on a gate. Or whatever. You will LOSE the ship.
In the mean time, it has less DPS than my Taranis, and it just plain SUCKS. It will take you two hours to do one mission.
You might have made a VAGUELY interesting fit, but you are TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT of the ENTIRE game.
Money is not the issue. I make more money everyday on the market than I could make running level 4s all day long for a month... It's about a solo player expanding her options :)
Your Taranis can't run missions solo while in hostile 0.0 :P~
I'll lose the ship eventually for sure...so what? You'll eventually lose every ship you have, it's only a matter of time. I'm fully away of all the risks associated, just looking for insights on higher DPS without losing what I have now. I've been roaming all around 0.0 with this Proteus for a little while now....still haven't lost it. (This is an alt in case you're wondering!)
What is the point of the entire game? Please inform me, I must have missed that one.
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Trvaeler
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: ASCHAYA
Originally by: xxxak You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
ANd where the *beep* did you get eccm mods from???
The 3 ECCM IIs make my ship impossible to probe out.
Fortunately for me, I don't really care about getting 'smack-talked' in local. This isn't about trying to find a ratting/mission ship..my armor tanking skills are maxed and gunnery is near maxed...drones skills are pretty good too, I can fly ogre IIs and Sentries..but they won't fit in the Proteus ;) .. I have those and can do level 4s quite well...but not while having a virtual immunity in 0.0 :)
There must be a way to add more DPS without gimping the rest of my ahem "lolfit" :) .. that's all I'm looking for. I'd like prefer an AB to a MWD since I'll be using this for missions. |
xxxak
Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.09.07 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Trvaeler
Originally by: xxxak You are HORRIBLE at EVE.
You will make WAY WAY more isk per hour running missions in High Sec in a Raven.
You will eventually fall asleep at the keyboard and get ganked. Or get unlucky on a gate. Or whatever. You will LOSE the ship.
In the mean time, it has less DPS than my Taranis, and it just plain SUCKS. It will take you two hours to do one mission.
You might have made a VAGUELY interesting fit, but you are TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT of the ENTIRE game.
Money is not the issue. I make more money everyday on the market than I could make running level 4s all day long for a month... It's about a solo player expanding her options :)
Your Taranis can't run missions solo while in hostile 0.0 :P~
I'll lose the ship eventually for sure...so what? You'll eventually lose every ship you have, it's only a matter of time. I'm fully away of all the risks associated, just looking for insights on higher DPS without losing what I have now. I've been roaming all around 0.0 with this Proteus for a little while now....still haven't lost it. (This is an alt in case you're wondering!)
What is the point of the entire game? Please inform me, I must have missed that one.
Well, if you are independently wealthy and just doing this for fun.. that is somewhat different.
EVE, as I understand it, is about ISK/hour and PvP fun.
Most people attempt to maximize the amount of ISK they make in an hour, either ratting, trading, or missioning. They then use that ISK to either become "famous" (i.e. start a corp, buy a famous ship etc) or to fund their PvP activities.
You point out that you want to run missions with this in 0.0 space. I was merely pointing out that it is SUBSTANTIALLY more mathematically effective to run missions with a min-max Raven (more DPS = more kills/hour = more isk/hour) in Empire space.
But if this is just about the thrill of being in 0.0.... I guess that is different. However, why not just join a 0.0 alliance?
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