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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2009.09.07 09:43:00 -
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They met in secret, these three, at an undisclosed station, where they sat and discussed starships and politics, and how to save the cluster from the State.
This is a new entry in our chronicle series, published on Monday every other week. It ties quite tightly in with current events, and was written by the talented CCP Greyscale.
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Templayer
Amarr Monks of War Banzai Boyz
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Posted - 2009.09.07 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Templayer on 07/09/2009 10:21:34 Edited by: Templayer on 07/09/2009 10:20:07 Brilliant Chronicle. Kinda liked the business talk. Quite an intrigue you have there Abraxas. Props to GreyScale. I bet there is some evil-mastermind thing going on :D
When capsuleer players will make it into those chronicles? I think that will be awesome story-player linking , there are famous capsuleers afterall :)
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.09.07 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Templayer
When capsuleer players will make it into those chronicles? I think that will be awesome story-player linking , there are famous capsuleers afterall :)
But they already do!
Didn't you read the words about the militia?
Currently the gallente militia is all beaten back only winning fleet fights but not capturing systems. All the factional warfare systems for the gallente are lost.
What now if it stays this way? Or what if the gallente militia decides to conquer the systems and fight for space instead for winning fleet battles?
This is all linked together, and the results of the factional warfare shifts and influences the stories!
This is really good reading :-)
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Tony Sharp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tony Sharp on 07/09/2009 11:51:38 This is clearly set in the near past.
So we have someone from Ishukone (who won the auction for Intaki and Intaki only), someone from the Federation (goverment? Navy? Roden?) and someone from a little shady entity which is most likely Guristas (references to the rabbit) but could also be the Mordu Legion (ties to the Intaki).
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.09.07 12:39:00 -
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Epic! The Federation paid Ishukone to get Intaki? Awesome stuff there Abraxas!
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Yaar Podshipnik
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.07 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tony Sharp Edited by: Tony Sharp on 07/09/2009 11:51:38 someone from the Federation (goverment? Navy? Roden?)
Mhm, maybe someone from CreoDron, seeing how the chronicle mentions Old Man. Ceul Darieux was Intaki if I'm not mistaken.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:06:00 -
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I think I have a good idea as to the identity of the three men who were in the room.
If the first man to enter is who I think he is... this is VERY exciting for those of us who are Gurista loyalists.
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Dr Lebroi
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:18:00 -
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Top quality chronicle - really good reading and great intrigue, well done all involved!
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Per Bastet
Amarr B.O.O.M
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:33:00 -
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Abraxas, You sir should be nominated for a Hugo Award. Your Writing is Superb and I have Enjoyed reading every word so far. --
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Per Bastet Abraxas, You sir should be nominated for a Hugo Award. Your Writing is Superb and I have Enjoyed reading every word so far.
Well, maybe he will be for the book.
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Caiman Graystock
Caldari Comrades in Construction
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:52:00 -
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Great chronicle, thanks for this I am getting really excited in the lead up to Dust 514! =D
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking... Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Hamish Grayson on 07/09/2009 14:23:12 The undisclosed station is five-Zed, and the first character is Muryia Mordu while the second man to arrive in the Widow is Men Reppola. I have no idea who the Gallentean is, but I don't think it's Roden as he wouldn't have been "thinking like a Gallentean" in regards to the Stockholders. Awesome with just the right amount of winsauce.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas and was written by the talented CCP Greyscale.
Just pointing this out, as some posters seem to have missed that fact.
It was an excellent story though. I may even go so far as to say it's the best chronicle to be published in a while, mainly because it actually affects things in a way that we can react to. -----
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:31:00 -
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This one is great. This, precisely, is what I love seeing in chronicles - the politics, the background, the setting, the hidden reasons for the things that happen in Eve.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu This one is great. This, precisely, is what I love seeing in chronicles - the politics, the background, the setting, the hidden reasons for the things that happen in Eve.
Quoting this in full agreement. Give us more of this
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I think I have a good idea as to the identity of the three men who were in the room.
If the first man to enter is who I think he is... this is VERY exciting for those of us who are Gurista loyalists.
You mean the host? Not so sure it is who you think it is at all. He might play cards with The Rabbit but that doesn't make him Fatal.
The first guest is obviously an Ishukone man and probably Mens Reppola. The 'Old Man' this person refers to will be Gariushi. (The person who has to sell the deal to his people refers to an 'Old Man' and from context that makes it the Ishukone man.)
The second guest is the Federation man and it's much less clear to me who it is. I'm inclined to think it is a politician rather than a businessman because he hasn't considered a key problem for the Ishukone man: shareholders. It is someone with an 'official budget'. That again suggests a politician rather than a businessman. Certain other things strongly suggest he is an Intaki rather than an ethnic Gallente. ("You'd prefer that your new landlord is someone who's not going to throw you down the stairs for fun." - strikes me as something that would said to an Intaki but not a Gallente in the context.) It might be Foiritan but there are counter-arguments to that. I can't really see it being Blaque as he's ethnic Gallente and not a big fan of the Intaki from his past record. Bit of a puzzle really and could simply be an as yet unknown. (I considered Eman Autrech but I believe he's still SCC Head and therefore a CONCORD man which would not quite fit.)
The host, though, as some have already said, is pretty clear: it's Muriya Mordu. It's the only thing that makes sense given the discussion. In particular the security contracting stuff and the remark from the Ishukone man 'Hah! You are a Caldari after all.' strongly suggest it is Mordu. The most famous Caldari to have arguably become closer to another ethnicity than his own is Mordu with his well-known regard for the Intaki. That latter point also more than explains his interest and his having 'a foot in both camps'.
After all that, I think I'd better say bravo Greyscale. This is an excellent chron.
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu This one is great. This, precisely, is what I love seeing in chronicles - the politics, the background, the setting, the hidden reasons for the things that happen in Eve.
Quoting this in full agreement. Give us more of this
We try to keep it a running mix of current events, background items, and the occasional infodump. And thanks for the compliments, everyone: I'm sure CCP Greyscale, who wrote the piece, is ecstatic.
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Tony Sharp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Yaar Podshipnik
Originally by: Tony Sharp Edited by: Tony Sharp on 07/09/2009 11:51:38 someone from the Federation (goverment? Navy? Roden?)
Mhm, maybe someone from CreoDron, seeing how the chronicle mentions Old Man. Ceul Darieux was Intaki if I'm not mistaken.
Could be and this ties very well to the DUST 514 naming theory: it is the name of the new cloning project/technology developed/researched jointly(?) with Creodron in the new Ishukune Station in Intaki 5-14 (station can be seen in dust video/battle in intaki). DUST is some kind of abreviation like Deployable Ultra Shock Troopers or something.
Given both companies' expertise in genetics/cloning the above I think is plausible.
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari Black Thorne Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:40:00 -
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I love the chronicles and short stories and have read every single of them. Can't remember all the stuff I've read in there though.
But one things bothers me:
"And monsters if they get out of control. It's good to finally meet you."
gnaahh, you are overusing this already. I know that you are striving to highlight the very special nature of us capsuleers in new eden, but I don't wanna read this over and over again, what mass murders we are and how brutal.. (yeah, I know that it's true..).
Okay, now back to finish reading this chronicle. ^^
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas I'm sure CCP Greyscale, who wrote the piece, is ecstatic.
/facepalm
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.07 16:25:00 -
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Love the chronicle! It shows the EVE universe operating in a way that I would expect it would.
I like how the chronicle invites you to guess the actors. Here's my take on it: The host has dealings with the Rabbit and the Guristas. I'm not convinced Muriya Mordu would play cards with the Rabbit, rather I think it would be Fatal, AKA Jirai Laitanen. The first guest is a company man, and the one company suitable for this would be Ishukone. In financial problems right now, and with the referenced problems with the current administration, and also with a reputation for handling the populace nicely. The 'Old Man' reference is strange because it is in the present tense and Gariushi is dead. But if it is Mens Reppola, he could be referencing/probing the Gallente benefactor? Which brings us to the second guest, who is a politician from the Federation, which basically means most high-level functionaries in the Federation. He's a bit if a mystery man, because Foiritan, Blaque, nor Roden seem to fit. The Old Man reference could mean he represents CreoDrone indirectly but it is not Darieux (who is Intaki) himself. Perhaps Ashtucer Alonaert, CFO from CreoDron? I don't think Old Man references Gariushi, as we already have an Old Man in EVE, and that's Darieux ... Or the reference could just be any CEO of a company?
Anyway, good chronicle, I liked it a lot ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp. Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 16:46:00 -
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This is a very interesting Chronicle. Well done CCP Greyscale !
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Dar Qsyde
Caldari Darqsyde Exploration Limited
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:12:00 -
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Very well written, ultra-mad-whirly-props to CCP Greyscale.
As for the three men, Mordu, the host, Reppola, the first guest, and... ...someone from the Syndicate perhaps, as the second guest. Makes more sense to me than a Federation politician.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 07/09/2009 17:24:27
I think it's bull.
That money could've been spent to mobilize a whole navy fleet and drive the Caldari out of there and out of the whole region once and for all.
Oh wait, the Gallente fleet consists almost exclusively of ships with a 5km blaster range and can be killed by a single Caracal. My bad.
And one more thing, this really isn't going to motivate Gallente people into participating in FW, if there are no consequences to the systems being occupied and some mystery men covering their shortcomings. When will we see some worlds burn? ---
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dar Qsyde Very well written, ultra-mad-whirly-props to CCP Greyscale.
As for the three men, Mordu, the host, Reppola, the first guest, and... ...someone from the Syndicate perhaps, as the second guest. Makes more sense to me than a Federation politician.
A Syndicate man having an official budget to fly around in a Proteus strategic cruiser? The Syndicate having enough Isk to buy the Intaki in Heth's auction AND pay for 10 years of protection? Seems rather unlikely to me. However much I like to hear more about the Syndicate, only a Federation man with a big corporation putting up the cash can pull this one off.
Mordu winning a Rattlesnake of The Rabbit (in some game no doubt)? Seems rather unlikely to me. He seems too much establishment, and watched too closely by the State to be a regular game partner for the likes of The Rabbit. This could be the Syndicate, and I would like it to be, but Fatal seems more likely, especially with the ties to Ishukone.
Still I like the reference from Reppola (probably?) to the Empire loans, and how it ties in with the Transcranial Microcontrollers news item. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:36:00 -
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Outstanding. After working as part of the Intaki role-playing community for nearly three years now, this is quite rewarding.
Keep it coming, we like it.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 07/09/2009 17:24:27
I think it's bull.
That money could've been spent to mobilize a whole navy fleet and drive the Caldari out of there and out of the whole region once and for all.
If the Empires could enter a state of Total War, they would have done so a year ago. -----
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 07/09/2009 17:24:27
I think it's bull.
That money could've been spent to mobilize a whole navy fleet and drive the Caldari out of there and out of the whole region once and for all.
Oh wait, the Gallente fleet consists almost exclusively of ships with a 5km blaster range and can be killed by a single Caracal. My bad.
And one more thing, this really isn't going to motivate Gallente people into participating in FW, if there are no consequences to the systems being occupied and some mystery men covering their shortcomings. When will we see some worlds burn?
I¦ve seen you whine at almost every chronicle, whats wrong with you?
Allways the same wahwah gallentes are not like this etc.
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azeral kulik
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:42:00 -
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would like to see some pro gallante ones to be honest getting a tad bit bored of caldari caldari caldari bad fedaration then caldari again.
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Trabber Shir
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hamish Grayson Edited by: Hamish Grayson on 07/09/2009 14:23:12 The undisclosed station is five-Zed, and the first character is Muryia Mordu while the second man to arrive in the Widow is Men Reppola. I have no idea who the Gallentean is, but I don't think it's Roden as he wouldn't have been "thinking like a Gallentean" in regards to the Stockholders. Awesome with just the right amount of winsauce.
I was thinking the same thing. The idea that the host is Mordu is also supported by the concern for the state that Reppola seemed to assume the host would have when talking about Heth, although the host could also be someone from the Syndicate due to their very close ties to Intaki. I assume that the Gallente is an elected official based on the sentence
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My problem is not an electorate, it's shareholders, and we communicate with them using numbers, not words.
which implies the Gallente has an electorate to answer to.
in reponse to:
Originally by: Yaar Podshipnik
Originally by: Tony Sharp Edited by: Tony Sharp on 07/09/2009 11:51:38 someone from the Federation (goverment? Navy? Roden?)
Mhm, maybe someone from CreoDron, seeing how the chronicle mentions Old Man. Ceul Darieux was Intaki if I'm not mistaken.
I am fairly certain that Mens Reppola was referring to Otro Gariushi when he said
Quote: It is good to be able to make business and ethics coincide. The Old Man would be happy with this.
I think it highly unlikely that the host is from the guristas because openly contracting for security from the guristas would be "professional suicide" for Reppola based on the secrecy that Caldari executives have had to excercise when dealing with them in prime fiction.
Overall a very good chron even if I am still a little uncertain who said some of the lines after reading it 3 times.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:55:00 -
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I doubt the host is Guristas or this: Quote: Other ships were coming and going, singly or in small groups - mostly capsuleers, his intel had told him, operating out of this lonely outpost and clearing the spacelanes of marauding Guristas.
wouldn't be there. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.07 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar I doubt the host is Guristas or this: Quote: Other ships were coming and going, singly or in small groups - mostly capsuleers, his intel had told him, operating out of this lonely outpost and clearing the spacelanes of marauding Guristas.
wouldn't be there.
Good point, then Mordu seems more likely than the Syndicate then, as the Syndicate wouldn't strive to clear spacelanes from marauding Guristas ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.09.07 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jack bubu
I¦ve seen you whine at almost every chronicle, whats wrong with you?
Allways the same wahwah gallentes are not like this etc.
Cause the Gallente fluff has been so awful for over a year now that it makes no sense. And quite a few Gallente RPers quit over it, so I've heard.
The Caldari get unbelievable propaganda such as those troops invading a world and not firing any weapons, while the rare times we hear anything of the Federation is it's all bad news, such as a gruesome public execution (not even the Amarr had anything this cruel), riots on Intaki, the thought police arresting innocent people, Foiritan being stupid, and basically the Federation ****ing up in every way imaginable. A whole year after the Caldari invasion we get Foiritan FINALLY taking action and mobilizing the Federation for war to reclaim those systems (The one and ONLY right decission he made during his term), and what do we get? Foiritan being kicked out of office. He should've been kicked out for not undertaking action for a whole year, instead of finally doing something.
Then there is this whole bias in game in favor of the Caldari. Let's sum it up. * Fed Navy NPCs get owned by a single T1 ship, Caldari Navy NPCs are wtfpwnmachines that require specialist PVE fitted ships to tank. * 23 extra L4 agents for the Caldari, 2 extra L4 agents for Gallente (plus a L3 one?!) * Good rewards for the Caldari epic mission arc, useless rewards for the Gallente * Awesome cosmos rewards for Caldari, half of Gallente cosmos missions are bugged and kill player standings * Extensive mission hubs full of L4 agents for many Caldari corps, Gallente corps are lucky if they have a single high quality L4 agent (other factions suffer from this too, agreed) * Achura nuff said. At least it got fixed. I'm sure more things come to mind later.
Okay not all is doom and gloom, at least the FDU gets the Navy Dominix in the future, so that's finally a step in the right direction. ---
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.07 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jack bubu
I¦ve seen you whine at almost every chronicle, whats wrong with you?
Allways the same wahwah gallentes are not like this etc.
She's annoyed because the Federal militia are useless, and haven't shaped up to be as tough as the Caldari militia.
Tbh, the FDU has no one to blame but itself over the loss of systems, it has it's tactics and focus completely the wrong way around. Anyway, that's a matter for elsewhere, not this thread.
I seriously enjoyed this, and I have to agree that I'm in the same frame of mind as Istvaan. It's also nice to see more varied subjects for the chronicles, spanning all four empires, at one point it was very amarr-matari orientated for a while. My compliments to Greyscale, the setting and descriptive work is awesome. I love it.
To answer those who referred to my original post in the thread about the three people, as far as I'm aware Fatal is still pretty badly messed up, although no doubt he's either dead by now or his condition has drastically improved.
It's going to be interesting to see where this leads, and how the State take to it if they do find out what's happened behind the scenes.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF 2008! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.09.07 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Verone She's annoyed because the Federal militia are useless, and haven't shaped up to be as tough as the Caldari militia.
Tbh, the FDU has no one to blame but itself over the loss of systems, it has it's tactics and focus completely the wrong way around. Anyway, that's a matter for elsewhere, not this thread.
I'd prefer it if you would not make any assumptions. The FDUs failures are not the reason I hate these chronicles and the other fluff, and are indeed something for another thread. ---
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Beani Kliadi
Caldari Off-Axis Response
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Posted - 2009.09.07 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Trabber Shir in reponse to:
Originally by: Yaar Podshipnik
Originally by: Tony Sharp Edited by: Tony Sharp on 07/09/2009 11:51:38 someone from the Federation (goverment? Navy? Roden?)
Mhm, maybe someone from CreoDron, seeing how the chronicle mentions Old Man. Ceul Darieux was Intaki if I'm not mistaken.
I am fairly certain that Mens Reppola was referring to Otro Gariushi when he said
Quote: It is good to be able to make business and ethics coincide. The Old Man would be happy with this.
I think its CreoDron as he was the Old Man in the story Old Man Star (also a system named after him) and no Otro Gariushi. Otro Gariushi was a capsuleer.
So that would make it Muryia Mordu, Men Reppola and a high ranking CreoDron official.
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Outlaw Jenner
Caldari Misfits Enterprises The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.09.08 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Verone She's annoyed because the Federal militia are useless, and haven't shaped up to be as tough as the Caldari militia.
Tbh, the FDU has no one to blame but itself over the loss of systems, it has it's tactics and focus completely the wrong way around. Anyway, that's a matter for elsewhere, not this thread.
I'd prefer it if you would not make any assumptions. The FDUs failures are not the reason I hate these chronicles and the other fluff, and are indeed something for another thread.
I think it comes down to the chronicles of late seem to "glorify" the Caldari as it were. All they do really is show Gallente weakeness and getting bullied.
Frankly there is nothing wrong with that. If the Gallente DID anything more than sit docked in Villore and Nennamalia they might get a spiffy chronicle, or even *gasp* maybe a system back
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Jebizael Hunter
Gallente Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.09.08 00:41:00 -
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I actually find this one of the more pro-Gallente chronicles. The Gallente man is actively trying to save a planet of people from 'being thrown down the stairs'.
His method of doing so involves strengthening the weakest of the Caldari mega-corps (working on the idea that many feuding mega-corps are better for the Gallente than a few mega-corps in a cartel). It also brings a pirate faction (albeit a very well-behaved one) into the middle of the Caldari land-grab area.
While it's unknown whether the plan will have a net benefit or penalty to the Gallente, it's at least *a* plan, which imho is good- the Gallente need to be more proactive for a good story.
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Taxtro Grave
Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.08 01:52:00 -
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This is probably the best chronicle I have seen yet. Why? Easy.
From the start you talk about capsuleers and what they do, it strokes our epeen's and makes me feel like I was really apart of this chronicle, even though I wasn't.
The way you tie the in game news to these chronicles really just opens up my eyes and makes me want more and more.
The best part of all these chronicles right now, is that they are affecting everyone in the world of New Eden.
Please please please keep up the kick-arse work!
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Trabber Shir
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.08 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Beani Kliadi
Fatal is dead, Otro Gariushi made a deal with The Rabbit. Otro killed Fatal and gave the first Raven BPO to The Rabbit in exchange for the lives of his best friend (I forget his name) and his sister. Also he became CEO of Ishukone by making a deal with the CEO of the Caldari Navy by killing Fatal and with the help of his sister and his best friend showed the Ishukone shareholders that Ishukone's Elite was corrupt (CN CEO wanted to keep this quiet so that was another reason Otro was made CEO of Ishukone).
He killed admiral Bane as part of a deal with Fatal, you are getting your characters mixed up. Crielere, where fatal got messed up by not having an updated clone, happened after Gariushi became Ishukone CEO in Ruthless, the story you are referencing.
Originally by: Beani Kliadi
Originally by: Trabber Shir in reponse to:
Originally by: Yaar Podshipnik
Originally by: Tony Sharp Edited by: Tony Sharp on 07/09/2009 11:51:38 someone from the Federation (goverment? Navy? Roden?)
Mhm, maybe someone from CreoDron, seeing how the chronicle mentions Old Man. Ceul Darieux was Intaki if I'm not mistaken.
I am fairly certain that Mens Reppola was referring to Otro Gariushi when he said
Quote: It is good to be able to make business and ethics coincide. The Old Man would be happy with this.
I think its CreoDron as Roni Darieux was the Old Man in the story Old Man Star (also a system named after him) and no Otro Gariushi. Otro Gariushi was a capsuleer.
I find it more likely that "The Old Man" is a reference to the traditional title of the commanding officer in a military setting. It is a way Reppola would be likely to refer to Gariushi considering their relationship and Reppola's military history.
That quote also seems to be Reppola referencing Gariushi and not some random CreoDron executive referencing Darieux because none of the prime fiction which references Darieux suggests he had a special affinity for the opinion that "It is good to be able to make business and ethics coincide", while that is a prevailing theme in every appearance of Otro Gariushi in the prime fiction (with the exception of Crielere).
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2009.09.08 03:45:00 -
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I cautiously approve, though I am unclear on the Federation party and where they got the money to spend on this -- also, they seem to miss the fact that the money Ishukone is paying for the rights to the system are evidently going in Heth's pocket, which doesn't really help Ishukone or the Federation's position much either....
But there is a bit too much ambiguity to be overly critical at this point. So I will watch....and wait. :) I do wish we could at least tell which principal was saying what though. :) -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.09.08 03:46:00 -
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This is wonderful stuff.
These are the kinds of chrons I love.
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Templayer
Amarr Monks of War Banzai Boyz
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Posted - 2009.09.08 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Jack bubu
I¦ve seen you whine at almost every chronicle, whats wrong with you?
Allways the same wahwah gallentes are not like this etc.
Cause the Gallente fluff has been so awful for over a year now that it makes no sense. And quite a few Gallente RPers quit over it, so I've heard.
The Caldari get unbelievable propaganda such as those troops invading a world and not firing any weapons, while the rare times we hear anything of the Federation is it's all bad news, such as a gruesome public execution (not even the Amarr had anything this cruel), riots on Intaki, the thought police arresting innocent people, Foiritan being stupid, and basically the Federation ****ing up in every way imaginable. A whole year after the Caldari invasion we get Foiritan FINALLY taking action and mobilizing the Federation for war to reclaim those systems (The one and ONLY right decission he made during his term), and what do we get? Foiritan being kicked out of office. He should've been kicked out for not undertaking action for a whole year, instead of finally doing something.
Then there is this whole bias in game in favor of the Caldari. Let's sum it up. * Fed Navy NPCs get owned by a single T1 ship, Caldari Navy NPCs are wtfpwnmachines that require specialist PVE fitted ships to tank. * 23 extra L4 agents for the Caldari, 2 extra L4 agents for Gallente (plus a L3 one?!) * Good rewards for the Caldari epic mission arc, useless rewards for the Gallente * Awesome cosmos rewards for Caldari, half of Gallente cosmos missions are bugged and kill player standings * Extensive mission hubs full of L4 agents for many Caldari corps, Gallente corps are lucky if they have a single high quality L4 agent (other factions suffer from this too, agreed) * Achura nuff said. At least it got fixed. I'm sure more things come to mind later.
Okay not all is doom and gloom, at least the FDU gets the Navy Dominix in the future, so that's finally a step in the right direction.
Actually such things happens when you have.... democracy?
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A Soporific
Caldari Elipse Inc. Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.09.08 05:37:00 -
[44]
I have to say these things give me the warm fuzzies. I just love the fact that player actions are being written into backstory. The living, breathing connection between PC and NPC still exists. This why I've stuck with this game. *** Wisdom. Justice. Moderation. |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente VA Holding Void Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.08 08:55:00 -
[45]
The whole FW mechanics fail thing aside (take it to Warfare & Tactics forum), this is once again a superior story by CCP Abraxas. I'm really looking forward to your book.
*/me hums Don't Let Me Down".
--- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie |
Ouro Akala
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Posted - 2009.09.08 11:02:00 -
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That Intaki person, whose nickname begins with B, and who's got a whole chronicle devoted to him sure is busy...
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The Ghoster
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Posted - 2009.09.08 11:13:00 -
[47]
For the last time, Otro Gariushi is DEAD! He died in the Malkalen attack, along with all his clones when the nyx mothership hit the Ishukone HQ.
And yes, Alexander Noir is guilty of that. They found his passport floating in space a few systems away.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.08 11:50:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu This one is great. This, precisely, is what I love seeing in chronicles - the politics, the background, the setting, the hidden reasons for the things that happen in Eve.
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Trabber Shir
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.08 16:30:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Louis deGuerre The whole FW mechanics fail thing aside (take it to Warfare & Tactics forum), this is once again a superior story by CCP Abraxas. I'm really looking forward to your book.
Read the first post.
Originally by: CCP Abraxas ...It ties quite tightly in with current events, and was written by the talented CCP Greyscale.
Originally by: The Ghoster For the last time, Otro Gariushi is DEAD! He died in the Malkalen attack, along with all his clones when the nyx mothership hit the Ishukone HQ.
Nobody in this thread said otherwise. The theory is that Men Reppola made a reference in conversation to his deceased friend and boss.
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Ian Sommers
Gallente Mandalore Salvage And Exploration
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Posted - 2009.09.08 17:20:00 -
[50]
As an author myself, I do have to say awesome story. I will admit I have no idea who the players are, but one name comes to mind when thinking of some one who has the ability to be a financial backer. Is the Broker still alive? Ian Sommers |
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Khadrea Shakor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.08 18:17:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Templayer
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
The Caldari get unbelievable propaganda such as those troops invading a world and not firing any weapons, while the rare times we hear anything of the Federation is it's all bad news, such as a gruesome public execution (not even the Amarr had anything this cruel), riots on Intaki, the thought police arresting innocent people, Foiritan being stupid, and basically the Federation ****ing up in every way imaginable. A whole year after the Caldari invasion we get Foiritan FINALLY taking action and mobilizing the Federation for war to reclaim those systems (The one and ONLY right decission he made during his term), and what do we get? Foiritan being kicked out of office. He should've been kicked out for not undertaking action for a whole year, instead of finally doing something.
Then there is this whole bias in game in favor of the Caldari. Let's sum it up. * Fed Navy NPCs get owned by a single T1 ship, Caldari Navy NPCs are wtfpwnmachines that require specialist PVE fitted ships to tank. * 23 extra L4 agents for the Caldari, 2 extra L4 agents for Gallente (plus a L3 one?!) * Good rewards for the Caldari epic mission arc, useless rewards for the Gallente * Awesome cosmos rewards for Caldari, half of Gallente cosmos missions are bugged and kill player standings * Extensive mission hubs full of L4 agents for many Caldari corps, Gallente corps are lucky if they have a single high quality L4 agent (other factions suffer from this too, agreed) * Achura nuff said. At least it got fixed. I'm sure more things come to mind later.
Okay not all is doom and gloom, at least the FDU gets the Navy Dominix in the future, so that's finally a step in the right direction.
Actually such things happens when you have.... democracy?
I hate to agree with an Amarr, but QFT.
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Minmatar The Causality
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Posted - 2009.09.08 21:39:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki I love the chronicles and short stories and have read every single of them. Can't remember all the stuff I've read in there though.
But one things bothers me:
"And monsters if they get out of control. It's good to finally meet you."
gnaahh, you are overusing this already. I know that you are striving to highlight the very special nature of us capsuleers in new eden, but I don't wanna read this over and over again, what mass murders we are and how brutal.. (yeah, I know that it's true..).
Okay, now back to finish reading this chronicle. ^^
The whole capsuleers as monsters thing makes a lot of sense to me. Bear in mind that a lot of players pay no attention at all to background fluff and blow stuff up in missions just to see the pretty flash. Also bear in mind that a lot of PC pirates don't act like actual pirates and are more like serial killers.
If you where an NPC in the EVE universe how would you regard these people? Monsters seems a reasonable view.
Regards,
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Betray
Caldari Eco Internet
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Posted - 2009.09.09 06:32:00 -
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Quote: And yes, Alexander Noir is guilty of that. They found his passport floating in space a few systems away.
Please, read the book, its not Noir, Noir is guilty
Originally by: Ian Sommers Is the Broker still alive?
Apparently our Mr. Gonzales didn't quite address that. (At the best he is seriously sick though.)... however, I just don't see where he would fit in the story. He wouldnt be asking to get any of the ships as the start of the chronicle, (or wondering what the ships were.) that rules him out of host. The other two is pretty obvious as one from ishukone and one from fed.
BTW, just to fill my interest, can some one give me a lil info on the 'amarr loans'?
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 09/09/2009 08:26:22
Originally by: Betray
Originally by: Ian Sommers Is the Broker still alive?
Apparently our Mr. Gonzales didn't quite address that. (At the best he is seriously sick though.)... however, I just don't see where he would fit in the story. He wouldnt be asking to get any of the ships as the start of the chronicle, (or wondering what the ships were.) that rules him out of host. The other two is pretty obvious as one from ishukone and one from fed.
BTW, just to fill my interest, can some one give me a lil info on the 'amarr loans'?
Well, the book suggests that the disease of the Broker was progressing so badly that the Broker could hardly stay in one clone for more than a few hours in the end. It is quite likely that by now he is dead. Unless ofcourse he took a shuttle to one of the planets the Matari doused with the antidote and just sniffed the air a little. Which is something he should have done ages ago. But I digress.
Anyway, I'm not a Caldari expert, but Ishukone was having financial troubles and decided to supply the Empire with some top-tech Caldari stuff. No doubt did they get financial support for this in return. The Ishukone guy is worried that Heth will at one point stop their export to the Empire and that Ishukone will not be able to pay back the loans. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:30:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Ouro Akala That Intaki person, whose nickname begins with B, and who's got a whole chronicle devoted to him sure is busy...
Please, let this not be the Broker. Worse character in EVE fiction EVAR. Anyway, he doesn't fit the bill at all, and we'd just rather totally forget about him all together! I mean, mind wipe forgetting.
No seriously ... don't mention him again ... evar ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jebizael Hunter I actually find this one of the more pro-Gallente chronicles. The Gallente man is actively trying to save a planet of people from 'being thrown down the stairs'.
His method of doing so involves strengthening the weakest of the Caldari mega-corps (working on the idea that many feuding mega-corps are better for the Gallente than a few mega-corps in a cartel). It also brings a pirate faction (albeit a very well-behaved one) into the middle of the Caldari land-grab area.
While it's unknown whether the plan will have a net benefit or penalty to the Gallente, it's at least *a* plan, which imho is good- the Gallente need to be more proactive for a good story.
This to be honest.
It has always been that the Gallente are hard to stir from their slumber. It is only when they are that they are formidable. Obviously, this is exactly what the Caldari are trying to stop happening.
In the meantime, the Federation didn't go from fabulously wealthy to absolute pauper overnight, and there is still a lot of financial wealth inside the Federation, even though the flower is off the bloom right now.
So in anticipation of the arising, that is assumed to happen at one point, some individuals in the Federation are putting that wealth to work. On the one hand for ethical treatment, on the other to make sure that when the Federation returns to Intaki, it doesn't find the populace completely turned into Caldari/Heth followers.
It's a stopgap measure no doubt, but it shows that individual initiative in the Federation is still alive and willing to deal with the problems in a pragmatic and innovative way. In a long term sense, it also shows that the Federation is still interested in covert cooperation with those elements of the State that oppose Heth in a way that can be build upon later. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Some whining ...
Less talk, more walk ...
September 19th, 20:00 eve time, Luminaire, Leviathan beacon.
Apparently the pinjata holds candy, lets have a whack at it. Bring something you will probably lose. And bring friends. Lots of friends. Either the node will go down or that Leviathan.
Less talk, more walk ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:28:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
Originally by: Ouro Akala That Intaki person, whose nickname begins with B, and who's got a whole chronicle devoted to him sure is busy...
Please, let this not be the Broker. Worse character in EVE fiction EVAR. Anyway, he doesn't fit the bill at all, and we'd just rather totally forget about him all together! I mean, mind wipe forgetting.
No seriously ... don't mention him again ... evar ...
I'm with you. I don't think I've seen a less thought-through and badly-implemented character concept outside of fanfiction. Let's burn all evidence of that abomination and get on with our slightly merrier lives. -----
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Ouro Akala
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ouro Akala on 09/09/2009 11:53:34 Commentary on the Broker himself aside (I second the opinions of the posters above me), he does seem to be the most likely known candidate for the host. He's very well connected - well enough to be able to host such a meeting. He's also ridiculously rich - enough to supply the ammount of money that is needed to buy a whole system.
Plus, he's EVE's "favorite" "behind-the-scenes-string-pulling" character, and this is in general what the story is all about, ain't it? It just screams his name with every paragraph.
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.09.09 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ouro Akala Edited by: Ouro Akala on 09/09/2009 11:53:34 Commentary on the Broker himself aside (I second the opinions of the posters above me), he does seem to be the most likely known candidate for the host. He's very well connected - well enough to be able to host such a meeting. He's also ridiculously rich - enough to supply the ammount of money that is needed to buy a whole system.
Plus, he's EVE's "favorite" "behind-the-scenes-string-pulling" character, and this is in general what the story is all about, ain't it? It just screams his name with every paragraph.
You couldn't have just let it lie! You had to bring it up again! Do you have any idea what the possible ramifications of your actions are? -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:57:00 -
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Nice one. Thanks, Greyscale.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2009.09.11 13:08:00 -
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Oh man awesome. I've been having woman troubles recently, three blisters and mosquito bites from a 30 mile hike, student loans won't take calls and i need to urgently call them, problems with my new accomodation, my graphics card packed up just a few days out of warranty, and my bumhole is sore for some reason. But this chronicle still made me smile. -omg-
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Great Artista
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.11 23:12:00 -
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Marvellous!
____ Rockets need a boost. CCP status: [_] Told. [x] Not told.
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company Independent Faction
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Posted - 2009.09.13 15:28:00 -
[64]
I love how EVE has all these little plots behind the scenes, under-the-table deals and such. I would not have guessed this one.
~ MED-SEC ~ AND The Blatantly Obvious |
Dever Rulk
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Posted - 2009.09.15 04:14:00 -
[65]
This says something about the scrutiny of the high-up Caldari corporate monkeys. They plan everything so that they alone share the information. I'm not so sure, but does this chronicle coincide with the in game news break of the Caldari production rights in certain gallente systems? Nonetheless, keeping an auction secret is a hard deal to attend to, and being caldari everyone wants a piece of the cookie. Also, I am trying to raise the idea of a live member-run corporational government. This being, in short, that the government corporations, of all the races, should be run by actual subscribers to EVE. This would truly be THE end to a player run economy, now including a player run government. Adding to Alliance warfare, Players could elect their delegates and then these delegates would hold office. What would they do? Big corporate decisions, thats what. I doubt that the CEO of GoonSwarm and a would-be Amarr Emperor have dissimilar roles in their respecting corporations. Coming form the patch Quantum Rise, adding a player run government would add to the political struggles that seem to surround NPC agents. Tell me what you think I am always here to listen, and if im not, you can email me at [email protected] Thank you for the great game CCP :) BTW anyone who needs a corp I NEED MEMBERS!!! join private chat with Dever Rulk, we are a combat corp focusing in the Citadel, looking for new and old players who want to participate in rugged fleet warfare consisting of gurrilla based squad tactics. Lofotor
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Trabber Shir
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.20 01:56:00 -
[66]
I got bored and did a line by line analysis of this chron. A synopsis of the results follow: (This is long enough it will take at least 2 posts)
There are 3 conspirators, referred to as the Caldari, the Gallente, and the Host for the remainder of this post, meeting in a station.
The Station: The meeting is located in a station that is dangerous to get to (presumably null sec) as indicated by the concerns for safety in the arrival of the guests. I gather that the station is most likely the gallente type of station made of rings around a central axis based on the sentence:
Quote:
He moved to the window, gazing out at the station's unsettlingly smooth lines, and the gigantic rotating rings of its laboratories, factories and testing facilities.
It is also implied that the station has combat agents located there and that it is in a region of space where and owned by a faction such that most of the missions would be against Guristas.
Quote:
Other ships were coming and going, singly or in small groups - mostly capsuleers, his intel had told him, operating out of this lonely outpost and clearing the spacelanes of marauding Guristas.
It is also implied that the meeting is at the capital station for whatever organization the Host is representing. The only 2 0.0 organizations I know of with both a military force and a strong interest in the Intaki are The Syndicate and Mordu's legion. None of the stations in The Syndicate's capital system of Poitot are of the ring type and the main rat type in Syndicate is Serpentis, not Guristas. However, all of this is consistent with "5ZXX-K V - Moon 17 - Mordu's Legion Testing Facilities" capital station for Mordu's Legion.
The Caldari: An official with Ishukone. Arrived in a Widow. Near the end said the line:
Quote:
"I think I can sell this deal to my people, assuming you both come through with your end. It is good to be able to make business and ethics coincide. The Old Man would be happy with this."
That quote could refer to former Ishukone CEO Otro Gariushi, especially if the individual present in the meeting is Men Reppola, however that speculation is a result of us readers assuming that the characters in this story have appeared in the prime fiction in the past.
If the Caldari is an established character, he is almost certainly Men Reppola.
The Gallente: A male Gallente. No special title used to address him Quote: "Purely business, Mr. ą"
Arrived in a Proteus he did not appear to have complete administrative control of. Quote: "That thing? I asked for the most secure ship we had available, but not one with a jump drive. Can't abide those things. Not a very luxurious ride, but the captain assured me it was up to the job."
"I'm sure we can find you a replacement for the return journey somewhere in our hangars here."
"Thank you so much for the offer, but I'm afraid I got the distinct impression from my staff that if I didn't bring the ship back in one piece, there'd be problems."
He has an "Official budget". He seems to think of himself as part of either the fed government or military Quote: "You must know that we hardly intend to sit on our hands for the next decade."
He is viewed by the Caldari as officially representing 'The Federation' Quote: "The Federation gives us a pile of money, which we can then use to make sure we get Intaki."
He appears to be responsible to an electorate. Quote: But you're thinking like a Gallentean. My problem is not an electorate,...
The Caldari referring to him as the Federation makes me almost certain he is a current government official, however the lack of a title other than "Mr." when the Caldari started to greet him makes me think he is not a senator or other official that would typically addressed by a professional title. In essence, with all of this considered I have no idea who the gallente might be.
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Trabber Shir
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.20 02:06:00 -
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My analysis Continued:
The Host: The host represents an organization that is Quote: ...someone who both sides trust, and who has enough spare hardware and manpower to defend the system against any and all threats."
In addition his statement Quote: "I have a foot in both camps, as it were. I have an interest in these matters."
indicates that he, or his organization, has an interest in either Ishukone or the State and either the Intaki or the Federation.
The Caldari seems to imply that the host is at least ethnically Caldari when he says Quote: Hah! You are a Caldari after all.
All considered, I suspect that the Host is Muryia Mordu of Mordu's Legion because the legion is a military organization that has an interest in and the trust of both the Intaki and the State, not to mention that their headquarters station matches the story perfectly.
Who said what? There were only 3 lines I could not determine the speaker of to a high degree of certainty: 1. "Well, that's... entirely understandable, under the circumstances." Was spoken either by the Caldari or the Host, to the Gallente 2. "If we're all ready, let's start. Would you like to kick off by explaining the deal as it's been presented to you, so we're all on the same page?" Was spoken either by the Host or the Gallente, to the Caldari 3. "If you would excuse me for jumping in, what is the duration of these licenses?" Was spoken either by the Host or the Gallente, most likely whichever did not ask the previous question.
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atoninothemighty
X-BIG Infrastructure
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Posted - 2009.10.04 02:30:00 -
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Though i'm a little late reading it, i have to say this is one of my favorite chronicles, the business talk, referencing ships, and "I think it might be worth remembering that capsuleers have a reputation for being... inscrutably unpredictable.".
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Hixxy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.20 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Hixxy on 20/11/2009 16:53:38
Originally by: Valeronx This is a very interesting Chronicle. Well done CCP Greyscale !
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lol at the .
gj good read.
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