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CCP Prism X
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.04 13:50:00 -
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tl;dr - Everything mentioned below is in development, not in testing. That's the only truly important part of the message below.
Word to who made ya',
I've grown tired of people approaching me on IRC asking me to reactivate their SISI account, or retrieve their password. Not because I'm a hatefilled slacker but because it is sensitive information and should go through a well defined process that I am not a part of. But that well defined process is somewhat stupid and relies on manual input from both you as well as us. Seeing as we want as many people on SISI testing our stuff, for functional feedback and bug reports, this sounds like a silly barrier of entry to create. It also prevents new players from accessing SISI between our full mirrors and although they are less likely to do that they should still be able to do so if they want (if only to use SISI as the worlds most over-engineered EFT clone). So automating some account information migration from TQ to SISI sounds like a goood idea that would simplify the process for you guys, remove the need for us to have QA people constantly monitoring this forum thread and generally allow more people access to SISI.
So I started poking at things and getting feedback from involved parties, mostly through Twitter and here in the office. As it stands I'm certain I can very readily supply changes to already existing user accounts, password information and what characters they have access to (and some other stuff that you guys don't care about but would be nice for internal processes). This is mostly possible because all this information is clearly sperated from any in-game simulation affecting data. Things such as skill training, character creation, manufacturing and other obvious nice to have scenarios create a whole lot of data all over the database, using unique indentifiers as relational keys between them and these identifiers might very well have been used on SISI already due to people playing there. Furthermore, the prospect of dealing with things such as "Character A on server X training Engineering 1 while character A on server Y is training Electronics 2. Servery Y training finishes and should be reflected on X etc.". Not saying these problems are impossible to overcome but they are less than trivial and I'm not wasting time on solving them for the purpose of the current scope of the project. If they were trivial I wouldn't be spending time on this.. there would be a builtin incremental merge mirroring solution in the DB engine already.
As I'd very much like to see this project help new players getting onto SISI I'd very much want to see new user creation reflected on SISI. As I mentioned above this would (probably) not (god why did I add that probably there.. now everyone thinkgs this is going to happen) include the character created due to all the item data a character creation involves and the possibility of itemID conflicts between TQ and SISI. But at least creating the user over there should be very much possible.
So there you have it, no more asking for SISI reactivations at least. Hopefully no more waiting for new mirrors for new accounts either! Feedback and suggestions welcome here and at @CCP_PrismX. Please direct any complaints, trollings or hatefilled rants to my specific inbox for that. @CCP Prism X EVE Database Developer and Expert Ranter If anything in this post was informative or could be considered as 'good news' to you - chances are you've misread it. |
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Missile War
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
35
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Posted - 2012.06.04 17:00:00 -
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clearly sperated - clearly seperated Servery Y - Server Y thinkgs - thinks
just noticing the possible mistakes ^.^ |
Ohnoes Improlapsed
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:25:00 -
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Missile War wrote:clearly sperated - clearly seperated Servery Y - Server Y thinkgs - thinks
just noticing the possible mistakes ^.^ You were able to understand what he meant, Aswell as everyone else. Who cares? |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:25:00 -
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Too Confusing; Doubly Read (and interpreted as thus): CCP are working on something w.r.t. Sisi accounts, but there's nothing for us to see/do atm |
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Tactical Narcotics Team
137
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:55:00 -
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I don't get it - are you planning to seperate the 2 servers completely (no more mirrors) or are you planning on making the server able to use the live account data? |
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CCP Prism X
C C P C C P Alliance
629
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:02:00 -
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We're planning to not require people to post here for SISI reactivations because they will happen automatically in one form or the other. Rest is just explanations. I find it better to inform people beforehand in case someone has an opinion. @CCP Prism X EVE Database Developer and Expert Ranter If anything in this post was informative or could be considered as 'good news' to you - chances are you've misread it. |
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DeBingJos
Avalon Project Shadow Rock Alliance
278
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:42:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:Please direct any complaints, trollings or hatefilled rants to my specific inbox for that.
You made my day!
Fix FW ! |
Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
190
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:08:00 -
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Missile War wrote:clearly sperated - clearly seperated Servery Y - Server Y thinkgs - thinks
just noticing the possible mistakes ^.^
This guy doesn't give a like, doesn't say great post, so instead he says:
"HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY HAS BAD GRAMMAR? LET ME TELL EVERYONE!"
In regards to the OP, NICE! |
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CCP Prism X
C C P C C P Alliance
632
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:16:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Missile War wrote:clearly sperated - clearly seperated Servery Y - Server Y thinkgs - thinks
just noticing the possible mistakes ^.^ This guy doesn't give a like, doesn't say great post, so instead he says: "HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY HAS BAD GRAMMAR? LET ME TELL EVERYONE!" In regards to the OP, NICE!
He spelled separated wrong so I'm inclined just to snicker at his affront to my typos @CCP Prism X EVE Database Developer and Expert Ranter If anything in this post was informative or could be considered as 'good news' to you - chances are you've misread it. |
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Ohnoes Improlapsed
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:37:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:Missile War wrote:clearly sperated - clearly seperated Servery Y - Server Y thinkgs - thinks
just noticing the possible mistakes ^.^ This guy doesn't give a like, doesn't say great post, so instead he says: "HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY HAS BAD GRAMMAR? LET ME TELL EVERYONE!" In regards to the OP, NICE! He spelled separated wrong so I'm inclined just to snicker at his affront to my typos Will transferred toons be available to use on the test server, If you do one of these smaller mirrors? |
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CCP Prism X
C C P C C P Alliance
632
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:40:00 -
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Ohnoes Improlapsed wrote:Will transferred toons be available to use on the test server, If you do one of these smaller mirrors?
That's the plan as things stand. @CCP Prism X EVE Database Developer and Expert Ranter If anything in this post was informative or could be considered as 'good news' to you - chances are you've misread it. |
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Echo Hayabusa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:39:00 -
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So when will this be implemented? |
D34dC0W
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.08 07:05:00 -
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Echo Hayabusa wrote:So when will this be implemented?
soonGäó (also known as "Some time between yesterday and the heat death of the universe. Sorry I can't be more specific." - CCP Greyscale) |
Echo Hayabusa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.08 07:27:00 -
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haha true :P, just really keen to get on the test server :) |
fab24
Tax Fraud Corporation
15
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Posted - 2012.06.08 20:21:00 -
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Remember me Prism? I had that bug I could never log in after a mirror... Happens again. |
Sirinda
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
98
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Posted - 2012.06.09 07:19:00 -
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ITT: CCP Prism X outing himself as a Stillman alt. |
Missile War
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
35
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Posted - 2012.06.09 07:47:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:This guy doesn't give a like, doesn't say great post, so instead he says:
"HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY HAS BAD GRAMMAR? LET ME TELL EVERYONE!"
Actually, I was the 2nd like...Don't say things that you know NOTHING about... anyway, I wonder how this will change the way people share accounts on sisi
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Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.07.04 10:24:00 -
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So what's the status of this idea atm? Before I tell more people to request activations via the thread? |
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CCP Prism X
C C P C C P Alliance
709
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Posted - 2012.07.04 16:44:00 -
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Finished internally last week. One of those things that are rather hard to test and as I'm going on vacation this Friday it probably wont go live until August. @CCP_PrismX EVE Database Developer and Expert Ranter |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
335
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Posted - 2012.07.04 16:48:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:Finished internally last week. One of those things that are rather hard to test and as I'm going on vacation this Friday it probably wont go live until August. Sounds like one of those things that needed to be done one week earlier would have made those that are not going on vacations life alot easier.
Have fun on your vacation. |
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Mr Raak
Pew Pew Inc Altair-Zaniah Ventures
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 07:38:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:Finished internally last week. One of those things that are rather hard to test and as I'm going on vacation this Friday it probably wont go live until August.
Great news! Looking forward to that.
Enjoy your time off. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
252
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Posted - 2012.07.06 12:30:00 -
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A question: Does this mean if our accounts go inactive on TQ, they will not remain active on SISI until the end of the current mirror, as has previously been the case? |
Andrasta Shor
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.11 17:22:00 -
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What's the planned frequency of these incremental mirrors? Every downtime or what? |
Erogo Proxy
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:53:00 -
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Little curious will this sync your SISI skills with your TQ skills or is this just gonna add the newly trained TQ skills to SISI and leave what you have trained on SISI already alone. Having Caldari supers trained on TQ and trying to test Amarr ones on SISI it would be a real pain to log on one day and be wondering why your tar cant use its guns and just got bricked in the ass end of some system while you were bashing a station. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
336
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:54:00 -
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Erogo Proxy wrote:Little curious will this sync your SISI skills with your TQ skills or is this just gonna add the newly trained TQ skills to SISI and leave what you have trained on SISI already alone. Having Caldari supers trained on TQ and trying to test Amarr ones on SISI it would be a real pain to log on one day and be wondering why your tar cant use its guns and just got bricked in the ass end of some system while you were bashing a station. Its just the log in info. |
Echo Hayabusa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.14 15:41:00 -
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So the current update is that it wont be coming into affect till augest? cause i was wondering when i would be able to get my new character on SISi to test a few things |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
342
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Posted - 2012.07.14 15:45:00 -
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Echo Hayabusa wrote:So the current update is that it wont be coming into affect till augest? cause i was wondering when i would be able to get my new character on SISi to test a few things Dev is on vacation. |
Echo Hayabusa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.14 15:46:00 -
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ah ok thanks :S |
GenesisMike
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
34
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Posted - 2012.08.04 21:26:00 -
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Any update on this being implemented yet? |
Kapali
Austudy The Welfare State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.05 01:42:00 -
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if it is a 15 min rotation automatically, it does not look like it is implemented yet. My new alt is not active yet... |
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