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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: U Mad on 10/09/2009 22:25:53 Oh hi thar gentle CAOD reader.
How are you? I'm super, thanks for asking!
I've been reading this forum since I started playing eve around 5 years ago. I've laughed, I've cried, I've touched myself a good bit. The question I put forward to all of you is two fold:
1. Why is CAOD a steaming pile of crap at the moment (yes I know, to a limited extent it always has been - but not this bad), full of nothing but chest beating and trolling (and not nearly enough emo tears.) 2. What could CCP or the GCC (greater CAOD community) do about it?
If you think the forum is fine as is, flame the **** out of me and ignore this attempt at constructive criticism and seeking of advice. If, however, you see this forum as I do now - devolved into unfunny nonstop ****posting (Snot Shot this means you) I (and I'm sure the moderators) are open to suggestions. Please note I am not involved in "the great war" one way or the other and this is not an attempt to troll (I'm not funny enough for that business.)
Thanks so much for stopping by, enjoy a muffin on your way out and please, PLEASE don't ban my ass. I'm trying to help.
Thanks for reading and have a day full of lolz and skittles
~~~~ Edited for tildas, emoticons, and huggles. ~~~~
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Freemunt Jones
Gallente Golden Horse Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:33:00 -
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Just a matter of time b4 the lock, but hey..
... imo, COAD has gone the way of the dog because there is not that much to report on, no new sly spys giving us humble players the inside info, no side switching backstabbing guys closing corps etc, its all a bit dull. The odd corp theft that belongs in C&P but thats about it.
Looking forward to the changes like KIA are, be intresting to see this forum in 12 months time i guess.
just my thoughts anyway.
FMJ
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Lowanaera
Amarr Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:35:00 -
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Because people like you post threads asking why it's so terrible every two weeks for the past 5 years. The only people who think it was ever good are people who are just bitter that others awful posting runs CAOD now instead of their own, and wistfully think back to a time when this was their own lovely echo-chamber. Such people are the reason SHC exists, so they can continue their self-congratulatory text fellatio unhindered. |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:37:00 -
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To answer your last question first, shut up.
To answer your first question, "tradition".
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Faife
Minmatar Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lowanaera Because people like you post threads asking why it's so terrible every two weeks for the past 5 years. The only people who think it was ever good are people who are just bitter that others awful posting runs CAOD now instead of their own, and wistfully think back to a time when this was their own lovely echo-chamber. Such people are the reason SHC exists, so they can continue their self-congratulatory text fellatio unhindered.
did you get banned on shc again? -- Check out my EVE cartoons |
U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: U Mad on 10/09/2009 22:51:09
Originally by: Lowanaera Because people like you post threads asking why it's so terrible every two weeks for the past 5 years. The only people who think it was ever good are people who are just bitter that others awful posting runs CAOD now instead of their own, and wistfully think back to a time when this was their own lovely echo-chamber. Such people are the reason SHC exists, so they can continue their self-congratulatory text fellatio unhindered.
I was against CAOD when it was a bob circle jerk and if that were still the case, I would have mentioned it. I'm not blaming goons, bob, or any single entity and this thread is actually meant to be constructive. I know, a shocking sentiment to have on this forum but hey - at least I'm trying. Doesn't it bother anyone that SHC is utilized for battle reports more than CCP's dedicated forum?
Also, in response to some other poster above - sure, I'm the reason CAOD sucks (part of the reason.) But why would this thread get locked? It has content, is meant to be constructive (not to sound redundant) and isn't aimed at flaming anyone.
Can I get an honest suggestion other than "stop posting?" Cause that ain't happening.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 10/09/2009 22:53:37
Originally by: U Mad2 . What could CCP or the GCC (greater CAOD community) do about it?
IMO CAOD posting has moved away from the intelligent, satirical and amusing commentary on the political issues within Eve that people like me are famous for, and that made these forums legendary. Now you just have people like DDR (who aren't old enough to have got over the shock excitment that something called homosexuality exists) and Goons (who are so desperate to grab the limelight that they'll piggy back on events like 9/11 to get some airtime in the absence of any in-game success).
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bjoerg
Amarr Colossus Technologies
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:55:00 -
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the sky has fallen
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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: U Mad Edited by: U Mad on 10/09/2009 22:51:09
Originally by: Lowanaera Because people like you post threads asking why it's so terrible every two weeks for the past 5 years. The only people who think it was ever good are people who are just bitter that others awful posting runs CAOD now instead of their own, and wistfully think back to a time when this was their own lovely echo-chamber. Such people are the reason SHC exists, so they can continue their self-congratulatory text fellatio unhindered.
I was against CAOD when it was a bob circle jerk and if that were still the case, I would have mentioned it. I'm not blaming goons, bob, or any single entity and this thread is actually meant to be constructive. I know, a shocking sentiment to have on this forum but hey - at least I'm trying. Doesn't it bother anyone that SHC is utilized for battle reports more than CCP's dedicated forum?
Also, in response to some other poster above - sure, I'm the reason CAOD sucks (part of the reason.) But why would this thread get locked? It has content, is meant to be constructive (not to sound redundant) and isn't aimed at flaming anyone.
Can I get an honest suggestion other than "stop posting?" Cause that ain't happening.
Stop posting.
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Cors
Gallente It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:01:00 -
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Simple answer is that anyone can post here. Still think it should be limited to CEO's, Directos, Executors and Diplomats.
when the rank and file can give their mind on a subject, it's almost always drivel.
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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:04:00 -
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I vote for a clom point system. I'd also suggest the total removal of alt posting, but every attempt thusfar has been circumvented. This character for instance.
Other than a voting system or removing alt posting in general, I'm fresh out of ideas. Suggestions?
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Warrio
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:05:00 -
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I get a laugh out of Bizmoomoo's Ambition when he posts here. Aside from that the content on COAD is mostly just a holding pattern of worn out memes until someone finds the next piece of emo-rage gold in a TS recording or some ****up of an alliance falls to pieces in a thundering shower of hurt feelings and crushed HONOURE. - |
U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio I get a laugh out of Bizmoomoo's Ambition when he posts here. Aside from that the content on COAD is mostly just a holding pattern of worn out memes until someone finds the next piece of emo-rage gold in a TS recording or some ****up of an alliance falls to pieces in a thundering shower of hurt feelings and crushed HONOURE.
The saga of Krull Amarr was pretty epic too and ofc it was insta locked by CCP. ::colbert::
A voting system, the removal of alt posting (somehow that couldn't be circumvented), anything other suggestions?
Also, <3 windy. ::Brofist::
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Nostradamus Negulesco
Minmatar Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:18:00 -
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The regulars here are simply the worst people in Eve. It's an online gamer thing, ego and insecurity wrapped up in a tight little flaming ball, and never particularly funny - we all know the kind of players I'm talking about.
The irony is that the CAOD types know these players too, but ofc don't count themselves among their ranks. CAOD is what you get when everybody is a troll.
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Admiral Goberius
Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:18:00 -
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back in the days I used to ragepost alot on caod
everything was taken way more seriously and calling out G or BoB for being disonhorable for engaging ascn was matter of discussion for many pages
now people would just reply "You mad?" and frankly they would be right :V
oh also lets not forget how the best pvpers in the game could be recognized on these boards because they had BABES in their sigs
- Gob
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RabbidFerret
Gallente Bannable Offense. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nostradamus Negulesco The regulars here are simply the worst people in Eve. It's an online gamer thing, ego and insecurity wrapped up in a tight little flaming ball, and never particularly funny - we all know the kind of players I'm talking about.
The irony is that the CAOD types know these players too, but ofc don't count themselves among their ranks. CAOD is what you get when everybody is a troll.
I dont think I've ever said this on CAOD before but this guy is......right...
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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nostradamus Negulesco The regulars here are simply the worst people in Eve. It's an online gamer thing, ego and insecurity wrapped up in a tight little flaming ball, and never particularly funny - we all know the kind of players I'm talking about.
The irony is that the CAOD types know these players too, but ofc don't count themselves among their ranks. CAOD is what you get when everybody is a troll.
To be fair, there are an awful lot of wannabees that aren't trolling anyone and are just making their alliance look like blathering idiots. ::coughs:: Snot ::coughs::
And myself of course.
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bjoerg
Amarr Colossus Technologies
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: bjoerg on 10/09/2009 23:33:09
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
now people would just reply "You mad?" and frankly they would be right :V
- Gob
this. Why do you want CAOD to change anyway? CAOD is for the sh*tposting. SHC is for serious business and kugu is for p*rn. It's all there. Leave it as it is. If you dont like old memes, flames and space egos just stop reading and posting.
Having only CEOs and Directors be able to post here would make this board veeeeery quiet and no one would read it at all.
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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: bjoerg Edited by: bjoerg on 10/09/2009 23:33:09
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
now people would just reply "You mad?" and frankly they would be right :V
- Gob
this. Why do you want CAOD to change anyway? CAOD is for the sh*tposting. SHC is for serious business and kugu is for p*rn.
Indeed, if you don't like CAOD as is you can simply not read. But doesn't it bother you that CCP's own forum is so junk that SHC and KUGU are now the authorities? God lawd it does me. I like this game and even CCP the cheeky icelandic bastards.
Honestly, any other suggestions? There has to be a few of you little forum warriors with something juicy.
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bjoerg
Amarr Colossus Technologies
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: U Mad But doesn't it bother you that CCP's own forum is so junk that SHC and KUGU are now the authorities?
Not at all. There needs to be a place for smacktalk, propaganda and memes. These things are part of the game and can be fun too. So have the place for that here and keep shc and kugu clean.
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Nostradamus Negulesco
Minmatar Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:54:00 -
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Bjoerg has a valid point, I think. Maybe there needs to be a place for flaming and trolling?
However, 0.0 sums up everything that Eve is supposed to be about - it's the 'Sandbox' writ large. And I love living in 0.0.
Its a shame that there isn't anywhere on the Eve forums where life and politics in Null-sec can be properly discussed, in all it's complicated glory
The thing is, considered and serious threads are far more interesting. They're funnier than any troll heavy posting. Anyone who can resist the dreadful urge to crawl out from under their bridge will usually find themselves producing good material. Or mediocre material. Either way, its better than a knee-jerk stab at the OP that's been done a hundred times before?
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bjoerg
Amarr Colossus Technologies
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nostradamus Negulesco Bjoerg has a valid point, I think. Maybe there needs to be a place for flaming and trolling?
However, 0.0 sums up everything that Eve is supposed to be about - it's the 'Sandbox' writ large. And I love living in 0.0.
Its a shame that there isn't anywhere on the Eve forums where life and politics in Null-sec can be properly discussed, in all it's complicated glory
The thing is, considered and serious threads are far more interesting. They're funnier than any troll heavy posting. Anyone who can resist the dreadful urge to crawl out from under their bridge will usually find themselves producing good material. Or mediocre material. Either way, its better than a knee-jerk stab at the OP that's been done a hundred times before?
I sort of agree. The only unfortunate thing about caod is that it doesnt look like corporation, alliance and organization discussions to any outsiders. It doesnt show the depth, the politics, the actual fun parts of 0.0 life. It's not attractive to any newbies.
But imho the place to show off what 0.0 can be are the in-game news. That's where you inform uninvolved empire dwellers of whats going on beyond the borders. Unfortunately this feature of eve doesnt really get used at all. All you can read about there are some stupid npc news that no one cares about. It really is beyond me why CCP thinks they have to invent all those RP news when the stuff that goes on in 0.0 is way more exciting sometimes.
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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: bjoerg
Originally by: U Mad But doesn't it bother you that CCP's own forum is so junk that SHC and KUGU are now the authorities?
Not at all. There needs to be a place for smacktalk, propaganda and memes. These things are part of the game and can be fun too. So have the place for that here and keep shc and kugu clean.
I guess you're right. I honestly didn't think of it that way. I suppose there is a role for this sort of thing and if other's feel the same... well, here we are.
Welp. So much for that idea.
Close/lock whenever you want mods. Don't banzor me pretty please.
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IronGoldenEagle
Caldari Annihilate. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:18:00 -
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Ill ruin this thread like you ruined mine! O too late
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U Mad
Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Ill ruin this thread like you ruined mine! O too late
I didn't ruin yours :( I helped it become a Brett Farve sucks thread. A vast improvement.
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SK Rooster
Gallente No Trademark Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:13:00 -
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ultimately i would say the problem is that too many people playing eve are under the age of 20, and the people that are over feel compelled to act like a mongoloid in order to match the rest
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Zemi Dahut
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: bjoerg Edited by: bjoerg on 10/09/2009 23:33:09
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
now people would just reply "You mad?" and frankly they would be right :V
- Gob
this. Why do you want CAOD to change anyway? CAOD is for the sh*tposting. SHC is for serious business and kugu is for p*rn. It's all there. Leave it as it is. If you dont like old memes, flames and space egos just stop reading and posting.
Having only CEOs and Directors be able to post here would make this board veeeeery quiet and no one would read it at all.
****Heap is as correct and unbiased as Joshua Fourchans maps used to be, and funny enough is supported by the same people.
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SK Rooster
Gallente No Trademark Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops IMO CAOD posting has moved away from the intelligent, satirical and amusing commentary on the political issues within Eve that people like me are famous for, and that made these forums legendary. Now you just have people like DDR (who aren't old enough to have got over the shock excitment that something called homosexuality exists) and Goons (who are so desperate to grab the limelight that they'll piggy back on events like 9/11 to get some airtime in the absence of any in-game success).
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Zemi Dahut
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:46:00 -
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Look at who you are quoting SK Rooster, look at who you are quoting.
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Yaay
Amarr Game-Over
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Posted - 2009.09.11 03:09:00 -
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I was born
DD changes
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