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Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:04:00 -
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We all love ships. We all love to see them go *poof* aswell.
We also love good looking ships.......
Flying dildos, The scrapheap challenge, the Raven which..doesnt look like a raven ( the bloody bird ofcourse)... Amarr made ships thinking that building 50 % less of it would seems more cost effective.
Old post putting up the same annoying question.
When will you stop thinking so much about ship textures when the models of the ships are totally crap? not to mention that the only changes that actually have arrived is you adding tier 3 battlecruisers, new scorpion...new rookie ships... Maller. other than that its textures upon textures upon textures.
If CCP could put some more work into new models im pretty sure they would do a excellent job and in fact give some new freshness into the game, sadly that wasnt quite effective with the tier 3 bc's. Maybe the hyperion wouldnt look like a 2-way dildo. Maybe Amarr would have more than half a ship. There's only 3 ships from minmatar i like....maybe.... although even if i do like them they're from 2004 unchanged and no textures it would seem.
CCP si favourizing Amarr and Caldari, leaving Gallente and Minmatar in the dust. Not everyone will agree with what i say here, saying that classic models is sometimes the best. Maybe you are correct, maybe i am not correct.
Minmatar needs lots of love. Think about the rust buckets feelings!
For the pure joy of fun, i have conjured up this magic list of ships that needs lots of love and huggies. AMARR - Crucifier - Executioner - Tormentor - Inquisitor - Aeon -Archon
Let me point out that there's barely any amarr ships that needs tweaking model-wise.
CALDARI - Bantam - Condor - Griffin - Heron - Blackbird - Caracal - Moa - Osprey - Ferox - Raven
Okay so that was the 2 simple easy lists over ships that could use a modelwise upgrade. Now... let the spam begin!
GALLENTE - Atron - imicus - Incursus - Maulus - Navitas - Tristan - Catalyst - Celestis - Exequror - Vexor ( is generally ok but it could use some love ) - Brutix - Myrmidon ( why does the myrmidon seem like the only ship gallente has which is not gallente? doesnt follow the design pattern) - Dominix - Hyperion - Megathron ( to some degree ) - Thanatos - Moros (Oh god why)
Okay that was extremely painful.
MINMATAR ( GOD SAVE THE QUEEEEEEN!) - Breacher - Burst - Probe - Slasher - Vigil - Thrasher - Bellicose - Rupture ( to some degree) - Scythe - Stabber ( rusty pile of crap ) - Cyclone - Typhoon ( please give this awesome ship the blessing of a new and more awesome model. i would love to see a new Typhoon model at the level of the new scorp model) - Tempest ( bloody sail) - Maelstrom ( the bigger bloody rusty sail) - Ragnarok ( biggest dildo in the game)
Sure hope i made a Point here. Not to mention that gallente and minmatar look like trash compared to caldari and amarr. and i think this needs to be fixed. Wasnt there some promise to fix ALL the ship models? |
Galega Ori
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:08:00 -
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Minmatar need more love?? what have you been smoking and can I have some?
Granted some models need work but not anywhere as many as you posted. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2012
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:13:00 -
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A few pertinent points:
The Minmatar have not been touched yet, nor have cap ships.
More ships models have been redone than what you listed (SB for example).
CCP said they would pick off a few needy ship models at a time to be reworked, and they would be released one or two per expansion. They have been doing exactly that.
As for which ones are needy... opinion vary. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:27:00 -
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Changing a model means throwing out previous textures. Also, good modellers are much harder to find than texture artists. |
Price Check Aisle3
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:27:00 -
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Mimi Labonk wrote:CALDARI - Bantam - Condor - Griffin - Heron - Blackbird - Caracal - Moa - Osprey - Ferox - Raven Fixed.
You've got quite an opinion about Gallente....
Mimi Labonk wrote:GALLENTE - Atron - imicus - Incursus - Maulus - Navitas - Tristan - Catalyst - Celestis - Exequror - Vexor ( is generally ok but it could use some love ) - Brutix - Myrmidon ( why does the myrmidon seem like the only ship gallente has which is not gallente? doesnt follow the design pattern) - Dominix - Hyperion - Megathron ( to some degree ) - Thanatos - Moros (Oh god why) There. A lot less work for the art department.
I generally avoid flying Minmatar because I can't stand the look of their ships, but they're still not nearly as criminal as you're stating.
Mimi Labonk wrote:MINMATAR ( GOD SAVE THE QUEEEEEEN!) - Breacher - Burst - Probe - Slasher - Vigil - Thrasher - Bellicose - Rupture ( to some degree) - Scythe - Stabber ( rusty pile of crap ) - Cyclone - Typhoon ( please give this awesome ship the blessing of a new and more awesome model. i would love to see a new Typhoon model at the level of the new scorp model) - Tempest ( bloody sail) - Maelstrom ( the bigger bloody rusty sail) - Ragnarok ( biggest dildo in the game) Clearly there is less work than you think. |
Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
2
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:29:00 -
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Price Check Aisle3 wrote:Mimi Labonk wrote:CALDARI - Bantam - Condor - Griffin - Heron - Blackbird - Caracal - Moa - Osprey - Ferox - Raven Fixed. You've got quite an opinion about Gallente.... Mimi Labonk wrote:GALLENTE - Atron - imicus - Incursus - Maulus - Navitas - Tristan - Catalyst - Celestis - Exequror - Vexor ( is generally ok but it could use some love ) - Brutix - Myrmidon ( why does the myrmidon seem like the only ship gallente has which is not gallente? doesnt follow the design pattern) - Dominix - Hyperion - Megathron ( to some degree ) - Thanatos - Moros (Oh god why) There. A lot less work for the art department. I generally avoid flying Minmatar because I can't stand the look of their ships, but they're still not nearly as criminal as you're stating. Mimi Labonk wrote:MINMATAR ( GOD SAVE THE QUEEEEEEN!) - Breacher - Burst - Probe - Slasher - Vigil - Thrasher - Bellicose - Rupture ( to some degree) - Scythe - Stabber ( rusty pile of crap ) - Cyclone - Typhoon ( please give this awesome ship the blessing of a new and more awesome model. i would love to see a new Typhoon model at the level of the new scorp model) - Tempest ( bloody sail) - Maelstrom ( the bigger bloody rusty sail) - Ragnarok ( biggest dildo in the game) Clearly there is less work than you think.
Clearly we all can have our own opinions? |
Price Check Aisle3
71
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:30:00 -
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Mimi Labonk wrote:Clearly we all can have our own opinions? No, yours is invalid. |
Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:33:00 -
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Price Check Aisle3 wrote:Mimi Labonk wrote:Clearly we all can have our own opinions? No, yours is invalid.
Apparantly you dont understand the concept of a own opinion. Hence i must believe you're only around here to be a troll and unnecessarily spams this thread at the moment due to a lack of better things to do :) i never said " all of these need new models and look horrible" but some could use spice. Even though you probably didnt really consider that one did you. |
Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
2
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:36:00 -
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Iamien wrote:Changing a model means throwing out previous textures. Also, good modellers are much harder to find than texture artists.
It is, if this is a fact, very weird that they do not simply upgrade the models of the ships, but rather spends money and time into textures through the patches. |
Price Check Aisle3
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:36:00 -
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Mimi Labonk wrote:Apparantly you dont understand the concept of a own opinion. Hence i must believe you're only around here to be a troll and unnecessarily spams this thread at the moment due to a lack of better things to do :) i never said " all of these need new models and look horrible" but some could use spice. Even though you probably didnt really consider that one did you. My point being the ship models are fine because everybody has an opinion about them. |
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Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:40:00 -
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Price Check Aisle3 wrote:Mimi Labonk wrote:Apparantly you dont understand the concept of a own opinion. Hence i must believe you're only around here to be a troll and unnecessarily spams this thread at the moment due to a lack of better things to do :) i never said " all of these need new models and look horrible" but some could use spice. Even though you probably didnt really consider that one did you. My point being the ship models are fine because everybody has an opinion about them.
Then go ahead Sir Trollsalot. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:55:00 -
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New doesn't necessarily mean better.
New Hound is fantastic New Reaper is pants |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1246
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:59:00 -
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I hope you aren't thinking they are gonna push more polygons into Eve. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
432
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:04:00 -
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Mimi Labonk wrote:
Clearly we all can have our own opinions?
Can does not necessarily mean should.
FYI I love the Tier 3's, I guess they had more of a impact on me than you so I say great job CCP.
Ferox has been cleaned up and its a damn sexy boat.
Moa is like Honeybadger, it doesn't give a ****, it's Moa.
Raven has also received sharper edges and more of a bird like head for a pilots compartment. Just a fyi, ships don't have to be symmetrical.
And a double ended Dildo of a Hyperion? Is there something you want to tell us about yourself because I certainly don't see that when I'm flying one.
The mega? Really? That thing is like the corvette of spaceships. You wouldn't make changes to a corvette now would you? Well, I'm sure you would.
And the Cyclone and Typhoon? Seriously? Those are even sexier than the Ferox. All they really need is the V3 reskin. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:53:00 -
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My beloved Typhoon methinks, is one of the coolest looking ships in the game.
First, It really looks like it shouldn't be able to fly. (perfect for the Minmatar mythos)
Second, It looks like a giant drain pipe but it also conjures up an image of the old Star Trek episode where the Enterprise encountered this ancient war machine thousands of years old that was eating up random planets... sort of looks like that.
Third.. it looks scary as hell and finally,
Fourth... looks decidedly male ie like a flying peen.
S
"The next time airport security tells you to put your hands over your head and hold that vulnerable position for seven seconds, ask yourself: Is this the posture of a free man?" |
Morgan North
The Wild Bunch Electus Matari
77
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:08:00 -
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I think, if anything, that all variants of a given hull should look different from the basic hull and also, from the other variants.
The Thorax is actually the best example nowadays:
It has two (Tech 2) variants, the Phobos and the Deimos. The Deimos has extended nozzles, more exhausts and is generally slightly better looking. The Phobos' hull is based onthe Deimos hull, but has those lovely interdiction thingies that give it a completly different look and feel.
The Thorax has only one more variant, the Vigilant. And CCP forgot to add bits to it to make it different, to the point where if it was coloured like a Vexor, nobody would notice.
So please CCP:
Consider adding the phobos bits, to all Heavy Interdictors, to make them different from their parent hulls. Consider adding several more bits here and there to ship variants. They might even always be the same bit repeated (A bit like the deimos has more exhausts at its lower appendage), but make the ship different already. Consider doing the same to all Hehavy Assault ships, much like several of the Assault ships have (Again the gallente ones are the most different between each variant hull).
Thats all :D |
Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
2
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:10:00 -
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Morgan North wrote:I think, if anything, that all variants of a given hull should look different from the basic hull and also, from the other variants.
The Thorax is actually the best example nowadays:
It has two (Tech 2) variants, the Phobos and the Deimos. The Deimos has extended nozzles, more exhausts and is generally slightly better looking. The Phobos' hull is based onthe Deimos hull, but has those lovely interdiction thingies that give it a completly different look and feel.
The Thorax has only one more variant, the Vigilant. And CCP forgot to add bits to it to make it different, to the point where if it was coloured like a Vexor, nobody would notice.
So please CCP:
Consider adding the phobos bits, to all Heavy Interdictors, to make them different from their parent hulls. Consider adding several more bits here and there to ship variants. They might even always be the same bit repeated (A bit like the deimos has more exhausts at its lower appendage), but make the ship different already. Consider doing the same to all Hehavy Assault ships, much like several of the Assault ships have (Again the gallente ones are the most different between each variant hull).
Thats all :D
this could be a good solution on the base of Tech 2 ships. If they changed the models of those and kept the old 1's for t1. thats a different approach and they've already done it with the stealth bombers. Not gonna complain about that one. |
Morgan North
The Wild Bunch Electus Matari
77
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:12:00 -
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Mimi Labonk wrote:
this could be a good solution on the base of Tech 2 ships. If they changed the models of those and kept the old 1's for t1. thats a different approach and they've already done it with the stealth bombers. Not gonna complain about that one.
The reason why they changed the models for stealth bombers wasn't, in my view, due to a new approach. It was simply because there'd be no way for the new missile launchers/bomb launcehrs to fit on the old models really... |
baltec1
1334
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:15:00 -
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Don't you be touching my Megathrons. |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:25:00 -
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I disagree with half of the ships listed in the first post. Likewise, I think the obsession displayed with "space dildos" is a little too much of a rorschach test thing for me. All I hear is goons this and goons that, it's like you people are the villiagers from goons village. |
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Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
2
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Posted - 2012.06.06 18:17:00 -
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Linna Excel wrote:I disagree with half of the ships listed in the first post. Likewise, I think the obsession displayed with "space dildos" is a little too much of a rorschach test thing for me.
this is not only about " fixing the models " or " giving them a totally new look and scrap the rest ". This is also about exterior looks. the ships look great. The Maller is probably my best example here. If they could remodel it slightly... and neatly like that, it would fall nicely within my book. Its just that some of them look like they are from 2003 and could atleast get abit of change or a new skin/textures or so.
The point is that Amarr and Caldari have gotten so much updated, and i think its about time Minmatar and Gallente could get some upgrades. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
297
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Posted - 2012.06.06 18:23:00 -
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Surely you have something better to do than to make lists of ships for no reason. CCP no doubt has better things to do than to redesign all the ships to suit your taste, especially since there's no way to please everybody with the designs. Why don't you read a book or something and get your mind off your ***** - er - your starship. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
715
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Posted - 2012.06.06 18:44:00 -
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It's the details that make the difference.
Don't develop the technology and lore: -EVE will stagnate as a fleet PVP space trading game then die a slow death.
Develop the technology and lore: -EVE has a chance to grow into an all encompassing SciFi simulator with a vast and committed audience living out their niche.
I'll put this thread into supporting the latter, however I hate the design of the Reaper but love the Ragnarok! |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
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Posted - 2012.06.06 18:48:00 -
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/FuryFighter/DCS212_firestorm_complete_.jpg
I want one of those (and the only bpo) lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VShzuZY5S80&feature=relmfu |
Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
3
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:54:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Surely you have something better to do than to make lists of ships for no reason. CCP no doubt has better things to do than to redesign all the ships to suit your taste, especially since there's no way to please everybody with the designs. Why don't you read a book or something and get your mind off your ***** - er - your starship.
Oh my we have a rager here who apparantly doesnt have anything better to do than to share his crap about on the forums....
Atleast i made some level of a topic, you dont bring anything that is of actual use so i will suggest that you do not enter the forum just to rage on other peoples opinions.
And if ur that ignorant that you dont understand that everyone would love to see some change (for minnys and gallentes).... then..... quit eve. Dont waste your own time writing pathetic replies.
Surely you have something better to do? |
Mimi Labonk
Corpus Alienum
3
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:56:00 -
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Galega Ori wrote:Minmatar need more love?? what have you been smoking and can I have some? Granted some models need work but not anywhere as many as you posted.
Ofcourse :) then again it wasnt only remodelling in the picture. better textures or change to color would be nice aswell. Some ships in this list are minor. some are major. |
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