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Aurorae Andromedae
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:10:00 -
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Please finally give rockets a boost at next patch!!
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Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:12:00 -
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Troll. anyone who cares about rockets or the next patch has kept upto date on the dev blogs and features and ideas forum.
+++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:49:00 -
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I think the next change after all these ships is going to be a rework of the weapon systems. About time TBH frequently a single weapon system is hands down best on a given class of ships (Ie. Medium Lasers)
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Liang Nuren
The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Asuka Smith I think the next change after all these ships is going to be a rework of the weapon systems. About time TBH frequently a single weapon system is hands down best on a given class of ships (Ie. Medium Lasers)
I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Kyra Neve
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tozmeister Troll. anyone who cares about rockets or the next patch has kept upto date on the dev blogs and features and ideas forum.
What's trolling in OP? OP clearly wants that rockets should get a boost...
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.09.18 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Asuka Smith I think the next change after all these ships is going to be a rework of the weapon systems. About time TBH frequently a single weapon system is hands down best on a given class of ships (Ie. Medium Lasers)
I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
I think this is probably true for two reasons: 1) New content is what brings in new customers (and more money), not invisible-to-outsiders tweaking of existing content. And 2) People who spent months cross-training lasers and Amarr ships are going to be really upset if CCP balances the weapons systems too quickly.
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MadAtTheWorld
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Posted - 2009.09.18 19:04:00 -
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yes, dude, everyone knows rockets blow. everyone also knows ccp isn't gonna do **** about it anytime in the near future.
sooooo sick of these rocket threads.
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Lili Lu
Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships
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Posted - 2009.09.18 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lili Lu on 18/09/2009 19:09:55
Originally by: Liang Nuren I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
Such a pessimist.
The boost rockets is purely a buff plea. I know noone that disputes they need to be fixed. So I am hopeful that when they do their "balancing patch" after the Dominion expansion there will be a rocket fix included.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.09.19 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lili Lu Edited by: Lili Lu on 18/09/2009 19:09:55
Originally by: Liang Nuren I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
Such a realist
FYP. Let's face it - the rocket fix is pathetically easy to do for them and very well known yet they've shown no signs of doing a thing about it. Maybe a dev died to a Hawk at some point and really holds a grudge.
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2009.09.19 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Aleus Stygian on 19/09/2009 03:01:32
Originally by: Lili Lu Edited by: Lili Lu on 18/09/2009 19:09:55
Originally by: Liang Nuren I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
Such a pessimist.
The boost rockets is purely a buff plea. I know noone that disputes they need to be fixed. So I am hopeful that when they do their "balancing patch" after the Dominion expansion there will be a rocket fix included.
Tbh, all assault-type missiles need some kind of a boost. It's not only rockets (who the Hell uses standard assault launchers?) but also HAMs that need fixing up so as to be on par and have a reason for you to fit them. No reason whatsoever to employ anything but HMLs, even in solo/small gang game. If you're going up against something bigger than you, a comparatively teeny bit more DPS isn't going to tilt the scales in your favor. You have to use capwar or EWAR. _________________________________________________________
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.09.19 03:31:00 -
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the next patch is always a patch away
you might want to reconsider what you are saying, and how you are saying it. You're posting again!? Has it really been 5 mins?
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Iria Ahrens
Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.19 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Asuka Smith I think the next change after all these ships is going to be a rework of the weapon systems. About time TBH frequently a single weapon system is hands down best on a given class of ships (Ie. Medium Lasers)
I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
I don't see it for another reason. Because a boost to rockets is effectively a boost to Amarr. So they will probably nerf Amarr or boost the other races a smidg before they do another Amarr boost. --
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.19 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Aleus Stygian Edited by: Aleus Stygian on 19/09/2009 03:01:32
Originally by: Lili Lu Edited by: Lili Lu on 18/09/2009 19:09:55
Originally by: Liang Nuren I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
Such a pessimist.
The boost rockets is purely a buff plea. I know noone that disputes they need to be fixed. So I am hopeful that when they do their "balancing patch" after the Dominion expansion there will be a rocket fix included.
Tbh, all assault-type missiles need some kind of a boost. It's not only rockets (who the Hell uses standard assault launchers?) but also HAMs that need fixing up so as to be on par and have a reason for you to fit them. No reason whatsoever to employ anything but HMLs, even in solo/small gang game. If you're going up against something bigger than you, a comparatively teeny bit more DPS isn't going to tilt the scales in your favor. You have to use capwar or EWAR.
Hey now, leave my AML alone. Or give them more damage, they would be ok.
But currenlty, AMLs kick ass for that they do, its their smaller cousin, teh standards that do not. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lexa Hellfury
The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.19 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: foobarx People who spent months cross-training lasers and Amarr ships are going to be really upset if CCP balances the weapons systems too quickly.
Who gives a **** what FoTM chasers get upset about? I would rather have all aspects of the game working as intended.
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.09.19 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Originally by: Lili Lu Edited by: Lili Lu on 18/09/2009 19:09:55
Originally by: Liang Nuren I honestly don't think so. I think they'll spend the next 12-18 months focusing on Sov and integration with Dust.
-Liang
Such a realist
FYP. Let's face it - the rocket fix is pathetically easy to do for them and very well known yet they've shown no signs of doing a thing about it. Maybe a dev died to a Minmatar piloted Hawk at some point and really holds a grudge.
FYP
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:07:00 -
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I dont understand why they refuse to fic rockets.
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Cpt Branko
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:17:00 -
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Rocket & STD+AML nerf coming with Dominion though
Originally by: Ghoest
Its the easiest fix ever - just add damage.
Also, ability to do more or less full damage vs same-sized ships would be sortof nice.
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Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:38:00 -
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To me it seems that flight range is also problem - when any frigate is running away you can hit him only if you have scrambler.
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Lenartowicz
Caldari Hive Bound Technologies Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.19 13:25:00 -
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best rocket fix would be to increase the rof by 50-100%
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.09.19 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 19/09/2009 13:53:44
Originally by: Lenartowicz best rocket fix would be to increase the rof by 50-100%
Wrong. They already fire ridiculously fast with good skills - but have you noticed the explosion velocity isn't far above a torpedo? And the fact they need a 50% damage bonus and ballistic control just to be on par in dps?
Yeah. That's the problem.
Some specifics on a suggested fix: - 25% more damage on all rockets (which makes 50% when combined with the typical ship bonus) - base explosion velocity of 130, putting it neatly in line with other unguided missiles. - Remove the Kestrel's 50% damage bonus and replace it with shields - as let's face it 50% plus the above buff would be insane.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.19 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 19/09/2009 14:20:12
Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 19/09/2009 13:53:44
Originally by: Lenartowicz best rocket fix would be to increase the rof by 50-100%
Wrong. They already fire ridiculously fast with good skills - but have you noticed the explosion velocity isn't far above a torpedo? And the fact they need a 50% damage bonus and ballistic control just to be on par in dps?
Yeah. That's the problem.
Some specifics on a suggested fix: - 25% more damage on all rockets (which makes 50% when combined with the typical ship bonus) - base explosion velocity of 130, putting it neatly in line with other unguided missiles. - Remove the Kestrel's 50% damage bonus and replace it with shields - as let's face it 50% plus the above buff would be insane.
Rockets should do almost as good damage as battleship torpedoes?
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2009.09.19 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Rockets should do almost as good damage as battleship torpedoes?
Hurr don't know base damages a derrp hurrgh!
Seriously though; rockets and HAMs ought to have significantly higher explosion velocities. Rockets ought to be up at some 200 m/s. Because considering their targets, they really don't make much sense otherwise. They aren't meant to do heavy damage per hit; they are meant to come in droves and eat up targets. And to do that, they should do little damage but be able to apply that damage with acuity. _________________________________________________________
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Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2009.09.19 16:00:00 -
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HAMs and rockets, like torpedoes are unguided missiles, so taking it into consideration they shouldn't hit their targets nicely but deliver huuge and cheap amount of DPS :P
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2009.09.19 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Aleus Stygian on 19/09/2009 16:25:03
Originally by: Kadesh Priestess HAMs and rockets, like torpedoes are unguided missiles, so taking it into consideration they shouldn't hit their targets nicely but deliver huuge and cheap amount of DPS :P
'Cheap' isn't the word for it. How do you like CN HAMs? They're pretty much a requisite these days.
But okay. I for one could settle with simply increased damage. You'd still have to increase the velocity or flight time though, for both HAMs and rockets. Maxed-out skills with either type of missile offers you a hypothetical max range that is, frankly put, pathetic. When taking in the real speed of the targets, and how these missiles are practically used rather than how the developers imagine they are to be used...
Well, we don't have many ships with bonuses for rockets or HAMs or such that serve much of a purpose, do we? Your cookie-cutter Sacrilege depends on slugging it out close in, where it can easily be brought down with capwar efforts or superior firepower, meaning by most any sort of battlecruiser, which makes it an even better example of how overpriced HACs suffer to insurable BCs than the Zealot. The Zealot can at least do sniping. And who uses a Heretic nowadays? And the Vengeance? People mount blasters on it! There is no significant incentive to fly these ships, other than that they look cool. _________________________________________________________
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Lexa Hellfury
The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.19 17:04:00 -
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The number of people in this thread going "duhrr, just add DPS!" is pretty hilarious. And a bit sad, I suppose
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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