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Durds
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Posted - 2009.09.21 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Durds on 21/09/2009 17:24:15 For those of you that don't know, CCP has a department called Internal Affairs; IA for short.
Created following events such as T20 that had a detrimental effect both on players and CCP's image; but mostly the later.
Its intended function is to ensure that CCP employees are beyond reproach and events like T20 do not occur again.
-and its second intended function which is to assure players doesn't occur.
All is not well and IA remains an empty suit.
Events involving CCP staff that damage the company's image and relationship with its customer continue to occur-
So far this year we have had Controversial issues with Scrapheap Challenge, a 3rd party Forum that is operated by a CCP Dev, acting on privileged information available to him outside the context of the game.
More recently it was uncovered that Members of the ISD and BH team were releasing data regarding EVE players IP addresses to an unsecured party; allowing them to link EVE players to out of game resources. As a result many players now suffer an increased security risk that has thus far lead to at least one known attack. Further unknown fallout in game with the release of this private information is expected. http://www.battledb.com/2009/09/21/breaking-news-shc-isd-violating-coldfront-users-privacy
I request increased transparency in the way that IA functions, with lines of investigation made public.
I am not asking for a witch hunt, names should remain anonymous to protect an individuals career and ensure that if any misdemeanor is discovered it is CCP that arbitrates- and not an uninformed and in the case of those with grievances, biased player base
Restore some trust in CCP.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2009.09.21 17:29:00 -
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if it helps, IA audited all of the CSM's accounts, probably multiple times.
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Nepech Al'akir
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.21 18:42:00 -
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That time of year eh.
Even tho I havent been affected by this, its still a huge amount of ***goty and a breach of users privacy.
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LegendaryFrog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.21 19:27:00 -
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CCP should never agree to release private information to non-employees, regardless of the proposed intention or rational.
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Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.21 20:35:00 -
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ParkerJ
Shadow Incursion KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.21 20:44:00 -
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Too much stuff like this has been going on over the years with the IP addresses and personal data and it needs to stop.
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Zostera
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.09.21 20:46:00 -
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Someone working on behalf of CCP harvesting IP addresses before passing them onto a third party is a breach of the trust we put in CCP relating to the handling of our private data.
This needs to be addressed urgently and publicly and with the full inclusion of the CSM.
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Thucydides Milesias
Fading Suns
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Posted - 2009.09.22 00:05:00 -
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I am sorry that somebody "broke the law" and outed a CCP dev (still employed by CCP, by the way) who decided that he wanted to rig things in favor of his Alliance. I am sorry that CCP's favorite alliance got disbanded. That is no excuse for going on a witchhunt against anyone associated with the guy who pointed out CCP's corruption.
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fuze
Quam Singulari Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.09.22 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: ParkerJ Too much stuff like this has been going on over the years with the IP addresses and personal data and it needs to stop.
And yet again ISD people might be involved in yet another shady business.
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Romulus Silvia
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.22 06:15:00 -
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end ccp
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.22 12:26:00 -
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I would like some answers from CCP as to why they believe they can use their third party connections to breach users confidentiality.
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.09.22 12:46:00 -
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this 'department' likely doesnt even exists anymore.
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Quinn Foute
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Posted - 2009.09.22 13:39:00 -
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.09.22 14:03:00 -
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Not supported. The "I" is for Internal. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Muad' Dib
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.22 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 22/09/2009 14:20:42
Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Not supported. The "I" is for Internal.
Yeah, and they don't need customers at all ... oh wait.
If this is true - considering who it came from i suspect that it has good chances to be true, this is bigger than T20. T20 may have broken some rules of the game, but it was all about pixels who belong to CCP in the end anyway.
PS: If SHC did remove this, than CCP did a good thing hiring Caldown, for 30-40k $ / year they just 'bought' the fidelity of the biggest fan forum. --- I smack just for myself.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre REIGN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.22 14:40:00 -
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Here it comes again... the whine/tearful lynch mob.
As it's been stated before... The I Is for internal people.... we have no business assuming anything.
And that's all this damn proposal is... a big fat assumption.
While I think the GM's need adjustments... I don't need to know what they had for lunch. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.22 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 22/09/2009 16:11:19
Originally by: Drake Draconis Here it comes again... the whine/tearful lynch mob.
As it's been stated before... The I Is for internal people.... we have no business assuming anything.
And that's all this damn proposal is... a big fat assumption.
While I think the GM's need adjustments... I don't need to know what they had for lunch.
Dear CCP alt, pitch and fork is what gets results, every business owner wants to save face and continue to have the trust of the buyers, it worked for T20, it worked for the rattler incident and will continue to work. --- I smack just for myself.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre REIGN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.22 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 22/09/2009 16:11:19
Originally by: Drake Draconis Here it comes again... the whine/tearful lynch mob.
As it's been stated before... The I Is for internal people.... we have no business assuming anything.
And that's all this damn proposal is... a big fat assumption.
While I think the GM's need adjustments... I don't need to know what they had for lunch.
Dear CCP alt, pitch and fork is what gets results, every business owner wants to save face and continue to have the trust of the buyers, it worked for T20, it worked for the rattler incident and will continue to work.
If I worked for CCP... you'd find yourself banned for any number of reasons I could think of.
Oh wait.. I don't.
I guess that makes your little assumption a bit... stupid? ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Verys
Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.09.22 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri Not supported. The "I" is for Internal.
This.
The article given is an example of ISD and BH who are players who volunteer for these positions and not official CCP employees. So give that a thought.
T20 was a massive screw up an CCP knew it, something like this have never happened after that internally. -------------------- Need a signature or graphic for EVE? Go to EVE-GFX -------------------- |
PostWithYourAlt
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Posted - 2009.09.22 17:42:00 -
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Want an explanation from CCP Ginger of this:
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Hey Sab,
Here is a list of IP's from Kugu's website. Take a look see for any IRC matches. Also, do we tell Ginger about this? He already knows that I'm tracking hits to the devblog...
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.09.22 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu if it helps, IA audited all of the CSM's accounts, probably multiple times.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2009.09.22 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is
Originally by: mazzilliu if it helps, IA audited all of the CSM's accounts, probably multiple times.
:cough: Lark :cough:
whats thats supposed to mean?
only a few hours passed between when he did it and he got caught.
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.22 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 22/09/2009 21:57:27
Originally by: Drake Draconis
Originally by: Muad' Dib Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 22/09/2009 16:11:19
Originally by: Drake Draconis Here it comes again... the whine/tearful lynch mob.
As it's been stated before... The I Is for internal people.... we have no business assuming anything.
And that's all this damn proposal is... a big fat assumption.
While I think the GM's need adjustments... I don't need to know what they had for lunch.
Dear CCP alt, pitch and fork is what gets results, every business owner wants to save face and continue to have the trust of the buyers, it worked for T20, it worked for the rattler incident and will continue to work.
If I worked for CCP... you'd find yourself banned for any number of reasons I could think of.
Oh wait.. I don't.
I guess that makes your little assumption a bit... stupid?
So your CCP who ? --- I smack just for myself.
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RansomList
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Posted - 2009.09.22 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Muad' Dib
So your CCP who ?
That would explain how Drake manages to post in every Assembly hall thread seemingly 24 hours a day.
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Zostera
Minmatar SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.09.23 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Here it comes again... the whine/tearful lynch mob.
As it's been stated before... The I Is for internal people.... we have no business assuming anything.
And that's all this damn proposal is... a big fat assumption.
While I think the GM's need adjustments... I don't need to know what they had for lunch.
Thing is Drake you do often seem to simply troll every thread with a QQ cry more response without stopping to think. So I am guessing you would be happy for CCP to be releasing your IP to any third party it likes?
The breach of privacy here is serious given that some of the shared data can be linked directly to peoples IRL names and addresses. Maybe CCP or any of their "friends" will be trawling through your online info one day looking to see what YOU had for lunch. Zos |
BeyondRelief
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:45:00 -
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PPL need to read the thing. The OP didnt describe it very well.
This is a new case of breach of privacy and trust by members of ISD and CCP.
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Cookiegirl123
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.09.23 14:02:00 -
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I've got drakes IP if anyone wants it.
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.23 18:04:00 -
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a devblog was released on the subject
update on the devblog with a bit of commentary - http://www.battledb.com/2009/09/23/ccp-privacygate-dev-blog-update/ - uncensored eve discussion and battle reports www.BattleDB.com
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.09.23 18:04:00 -
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Well Looks like its time to suspend accounts untill they clean up there act. No way in hell that I can see that they can excuse whats happend.
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IHaveNoFace
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Posted - 2009.09.23 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: IHaveNoFace on 23/09/2009 18:21:02
Originally by: Hubris a devblog was released on the subject
update on the devblog with a bit of commentary - http://www.battledb.com/2009/09/23/ccp-privacygate-dev-blog-update/
Vague.
Remove the bumph and we are told very little about what is going on.
I get the impression CCP is trying to distance itself from this- but how can it when CCP Ginger is reportedly in full knowledge of what was going on according to the information leaked?
The Dev Blog along with its numerous edits as cataloged here:
http://www.battledb.com/2009/09/23/ccp-privacygate-dev-blog-update/
In the interim until events are exposed (and i hope they will be) i encourage anyone intending to browse ANY 3rd part website related to EVE to use a proxy server until it is established to the extent to which CCP has/is compromising players identities.
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