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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:29:00 -
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As a show of good faith, the Fountain Alliance hereby extend an offer of cessation of hostilities towards corporations currently a part of the alliance known as CFS. This offer is also extended to corporations currently a part of DSMA or StA.
Our conditions for peace are as follows:
* Your corporation will severe all ties to the UFS (CFS/DSMA/StA).
* Your corporation will temporarily leave former CFS space, and enter into diplomatic sessions with our representatives.
* Your corporation will either relocate permanently, or take an active and dedicated part in shaping a new and stable entity to govern former CFS space, depending on the outcome of the negotiations.
Our offer is valid for 48 hours. Those that choose to dismiss it will receive a permanent entry on our KOS list.
We reserve the right to disqualify a number of particularly agitating corporations from our offer.
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Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance |

Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:29:00 -
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As a show of good faith, the Fountain Alliance hereby extend an offer of cessation of hostilities towards corporations currently a part of the alliance known as CFS. This offer is also extended to corporations currently a part of DSMA or StA.
Our conditions for peace are as follows:
* Your corporation will severe all ties to the UFS (CFS/DSMA/StA).
* Your corporation will temporarily leave former CFS space, and enter into diplomatic sessions with our representatives.
* Your corporation will either relocate permanently, or take an active and dedicated part in shaping a new and stable entity to govern former CFS space, depending on the outcome of the negotiations.
Our offer is valid for 48 hours. Those that choose to dismiss it will receive a permanent entry on our KOS list.
We reserve the right to disqualify a number of particularly agitating corporations from our offer.
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Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance |

Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:34:00 -
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:34:00 -
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Rehen
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:37:00 -
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Arnt FA Soooo nice for doing this everybody they must be grate guys for posting this
look if you leave your alliance and go back top mining for them they will alow you to mine again, i personaly think its a grate deal and will advise anybody to take it up. So if all you want to do is mine plz feel free to leave ufs and hop on over into bed with fa.
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Rehen
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:37:00 -
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Arnt FA Soooo nice for doing this everybody they must be grate guys for posting this
look if you leave your alliance and go back top mining for them they will alow you to mine again, i personaly think its a grate deal and will advise anybody to take it up. So if all you want to do is mine plz feel free to leave ufs and hop on over into bed with fa.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alkad Mzu We reserve the right to disqualify a number of particularly agitating corporations from our offer.
lol, nice touch.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alkad Mzu We reserve the right to disqualify a number of particularly agitating corporations from our offer.
lol, nice touch.
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Bianca Reeves
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rehen Arnt FA Soooo nice for doing this everybody they must be grate guys for posting this
look if you leave your alliance and go back top mining for them they will alow you to mine again, i personaly think its a grate deal and will advise anybody to take it up. So if all you want to do is mine plz feel free to leave ufs and hop on over into bed with fa.
rehen, for gods sake. let the diplomats do their work. the majority of our dilpomatic personnel might havent even noticed this release by now and you are already flaming. congrats.
@Alkad Mzu could you call any names of "disqualified corporations" at this point? ---- RENT A SIG Yes, its true, this signature is for rent! Contact me ingame for further details. READ - Reeves Enterprises, Advertisement Division |

Bianca Reeves
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rehen Arnt FA Soooo nice for doing this everybody they must be grate guys for posting this
look if you leave your alliance and go back top mining for them they will alow you to mine again, i personaly think its a grate deal and will advise anybody to take it up. So if all you want to do is mine plz feel free to leave ufs and hop on over into bed with fa.
rehen, for gods sake. let the diplomats do their work. the majority of our dilpomatic personnel might havent even noticed this release by now and you are already flaming. congrats.
@Alkad Mzu could you call any names of "disqualified corporations" at this point? ---- RENT A SIG Yes, its true, this signature is for rent! Contact me ingame for further details. READ - Reeves Enterprises, Advertisement Division |

Martin duPorres
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:44:00 -
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What will the new tax rate be?
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Martin duPorres
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:44:00 -
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What will the new tax rate be?
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Rehen
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:48:00 -
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its not a case of diplomats acording to that post first you have to leave ufs so thats totaly fobar
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Rehen
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:48:00 -
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its not a case of diplomats acording to that post first you have to leave ufs so thats totaly fobar
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:48:00 -
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I think we can all safely say that any new entity in that region WILL be Fountain lapdogs using the proposals outlined above.
No ambiguity. No twisting words. Plain ol' puppet entity of Fountain. Least it'll save people shouting about them being lapdogs and them ot saying they ain't.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:48:00 -
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I think we can all safely say that any new entity in that region WILL be Fountain lapdogs using the proposals outlined above.
No ambiguity. No twisting words. Plain ol' puppet entity of Fountain. Least it'll save people shouting about them being lapdogs and them ot saying they ain't.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Rehen
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:50:00 -
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its just another case of fa pretending to be nice when realy they are kicking you in the back
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Rehen
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:50:00 -
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its just another case of fa pretending to be nice when realy they are kicking you in the back
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:56:00 -
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Wow wicked proposal lol. Cowardly, but smart.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.25 09:56:00 -
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Wow wicked proposal lol. Cowardly, but smart.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Wow wicked proposal lol. Cowardly, but smart.
You mean, cowardly as in wtfpwning CFS and then dictating terms of surrender?
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Wow wicked proposal lol. Cowardly, but smart.
You mean, cowardly as in wtfpwning CFS and then dictating terms of surrender?
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.25 10:07:00 -
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Cowardly in the meaning of not wanna fight but to talk people to death.
Stop the alt whoring.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.25 10:07:00 -
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Cowardly in the meaning of not wanna fight but to talk people to death.
Stop the alt whoring.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.25 10:09:00 -
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Yeah, real cowardly to kick CFS' arse and then give them a chance to surrender and save some face 
GG Avancade
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.25 10:09:00 -
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Yeah, real cowardly to kick CFS' arse and then give them a chance to surrender and save some face 
GG Avancade
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:02:00 -
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even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore... __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:02:00 -
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even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore... __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Yeah, real cowardly to kick CFS' arse and then give them a chance to surrender and save some face 
Save face?  
FFS, don't fight us. Just bend over nicely and we'll be gentle .
If they are going to run, at least they could run as gallant losers, rather than as FA's ladyboys.
I look forward to seeing which corps will take it up the a$$ for high end (oo'er matron) minerals.
Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |

Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Yeah, real cowardly to kick CFS' arse and then give them a chance to surrender and save some face 
Save face?  
FFS, don't fight us. Just bend over nicely and we'll be gentle .
If they are going to run, at least they could run as gallant losers, rather than as FA's ladyboys.
I look forward to seeing which corps will take it up the a$$ for high end (oo'er matron) minerals.
Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:09:00 -
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Any corporations accepting this would have no self respect... I don't see any doing so. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:09:00 -
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Any corporations accepting this would have no self respect... I don't see any doing so. --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

Ange1
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:11:00 -
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I'm with Enslaver on that. Any respect the 'rebel' CFS had for doing the right thing and standing up to FA will be lost if you surrender. Continue the fight! |

Ange1
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:11:00 -
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I'm with Enslaver on that. Any respect the 'rebel' CFS had for doing the right thing and standing up to FA will be lost if you surrender. Continue the fight! |

Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 I'm with Enslaver on that. Any respect the 'rebel' CFS had for doing the right thing and standing up to FA will be lost if you surrender. Continue the fight!
Yes!!! Either that or you lose the CA board respect!!!!1

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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 I'm with Enslaver on that. Any respect the 'rebel' CFS had for doing the right thing and standing up to FA will be lost if you surrender. Continue the fight!
Yes!!! Either that or you lose the CA board respect!!!!1

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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:30:00 -
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This fight hasn't even been going on for, what, 2 weeks? And you're already dictating surrender terms?
Something don't smell right.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:30:00 -
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This fight hasn't even been going on for, what, 2 weeks? And you're already dictating surrender terms?
Something don't smell right.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd? ---------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd? ---------------
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver Any corporations accepting this would have no self respect... I don't see any doing so.
Actually judging by the 4 posts of Star Alliance people leaving I'd wager some already have. __________________________________________
Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |

Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver Any corporations accepting this would have no self respect... I don't see any doing so.
Actually judging by the 4 posts of Star Alliance people leaving I'd wager some already have. __________________________________________
Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |

darth solo
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:38:00 -
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I feel sorry for u guys...
seems to me that FA are bullying ya..
met some real decent guys in the CFS.
hope they can sort something oot.
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:38:00 -
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I feel sorry for u guys...
seems to me that FA are bullying ya..
met some real decent guys in the CFS.
hope they can sort something oot.
d solo.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine...
Are you sure?
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine...
Are you sure?
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:54:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Walking Contradiction
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine...
Are you sure?
Yes im sure. ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:54:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Walking Contradiction
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine...
Are you sure?
Yes im sure. ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Moosehead
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:54:00 -
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Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.In turn should it not also be fair to ask SA to help set up this new goverment since they are also neighbours.
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Moosehead
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Posted - 2004.10.25 11:54:00 -
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Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.In turn should it not also be fair to ask SA to help set up this new goverment since they are also neighbours.
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Moosehead Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.
Because of his guns ? 
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Moosehead Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.
Because of his guns ? 
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:02:00 -
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What a jolly fine offer - permanent slavery, financial exploitation and dictatorship or they will blob you into boredom or submission. CFS you should just get the hell out and join a proper alliance, these guys will just be a continual PITA for you.
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:02:00 -
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What a jolly fine offer - permanent slavery, financial exploitation and dictatorship or they will blob you into boredom or submission. CFS you should just get the hell out and join a proper alliance, these guys will just be a continual PITA for you.
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Moosehead
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:04:00 -
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i love the way people only quote parts of what you say.Thats how trouble starts.
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Moosehead
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:04:00 -
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i love the way people only quote parts of what you say.Thats how trouble starts.
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:09:00 -
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There are 2 points in your post, I answered the first one. It shouldn't be too hard to understand I think.
The only legitimacy in EVE is your power as for any new world waiting to be conquered.
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:09:00 -
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There are 2 points in your post, I answered the first one. It shouldn't be too hard to understand I think.
The only legitimacy in EVE is your power as for any new world waiting to be conquered.
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Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:10:00 -
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Translation: DO AS FA SAYS OR DIE, YOU HAVE 48 HOURS
Acually i kinda respect that, they are winning the war, they know it, they make great dictorial statments like that. FA make the ultimate bad guys and i think it adds to the fun and roleplay. |

Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:10:00 -
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Translation: DO AS FA SAYS OR DIE, YOU HAVE 48 HOURS
Acually i kinda respect that, they are winning the war, they know it, they make great dictorial statments like that. FA make the ultimate bad guys and i think it adds to the fun and roleplay. |

Svarun
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Dont worry well figure out another setup to pwn you all before the cries of OVERPOWERED get it nerfed.
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Svarun
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Dont worry well figure out another setup to pwn you all before the cries of OVERPOWERED get it nerfed.
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:12:00 -
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As an outsider I would advise the CFS to tell FA to go **** themselves! THEY have always had the best pickings up in Fountain (I know I used to be in FA) yet take over YOUR stations, take taxes(!) from what YOU mine getting richer and richer while you work your butts off and all they have to do it the odd forum threat to keep you in line?!
Are you really worried that you will on their KOS? I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
CFS has always been an easy target for a lot of Allainces, so it's time to get your space back before Shiva otherwise you'll be peons for the 'mighy' FA!
Although your name sounds like some second rate furniture shop... Go CFS!!
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:12:00 -
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As an outsider I would advise the CFS to tell FA to go **** themselves! THEY have always had the best pickings up in Fountain (I know I used to be in FA) yet take over YOUR stations, take taxes(!) from what YOU mine getting richer and richer while you work your butts off and all they have to do it the odd forum threat to keep you in line?!
Are you really worried that you will on their KOS? I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
CFS has always been an easy target for a lot of Allainces, so it's time to get your space back before Shiva otherwise you'll be peons for the 'mighy' FA!
Although your name sounds like some second rate furniture shop... Go CFS!!
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:16:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:18:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Kariss on 25/10/2004 12:32:23
Originally by: Elisium Dammar Translation: DO AS FA SAYS OR DIE, YOU HAVE 48 HOURS
Acually i kinda respect that, they are winning the war, they know it, they make great dictorial statments like that. FA make the ultimate bad guys and i think it adds to the fun and roleplay.
I was trying to think of a film or events from history which are similar to the current state of the UFS thing and the first one that popped into my head was the Star Wars universe. There we have the Rebel Alliance (UFS) fighting for freedom from tyranny and the evil Empire who just like shooting stuff (CA) and then there is the greedy Trade Federation (guess who?) who blocked off Naboo with a huge Battleship fleet when it realized it's profits were going to be hit.
[/pointless but self-entertaining post]
edited: grammatical errors
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:18:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Kariss on 25/10/2004 12:32:23
Originally by: Elisium Dammar Translation: DO AS FA SAYS OR DIE, YOU HAVE 48 HOURS
Acually i kinda respect that, they are winning the war, they know it, they make great dictorial statments like that. FA make the ultimate bad guys and i think it adds to the fun and roleplay.
I was trying to think of a film or events from history which are similar to the current state of the UFS thing and the first one that popped into my head was the Star Wars universe. There we have the Rebel Alliance (UFS) fighting for freedom from tyranny and the evil Empire who just like shooting stuff (CA) and then there is the greedy Trade Federation (guess who?) who blocked off Naboo with a huge Battleship fleet when it realized it's profits were going to be hit.
[/pointless but self-entertaining post]
edited: grammatical errors
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Zemit
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:19:00 -
[71]
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
LOL, you think you will actually see FA in these regions once the war is over? Maybe once a week when they arrive to collect their taxes.
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Zemit
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:19:00 -
[72]
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
LOL, you think you will actually see FA in these regions once the war is over? Maybe once a week when they arrive to collect their taxes.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:23:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Lexus666
Although your name sounds like some second rate furniture shop... Go CFS!!
Good one Lexus666 ! Made me laugh anyway 
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:23:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Lexus666
Although your name sounds like some second rate furniture shop... Go CFS!!
Good one Lexus666 ! Made me laugh anyway 
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Sabercat
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:35:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Moosehead Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.In turn should it not also be fair to ask SA to help set up this new goverment since they are also neighbours.
I think SA has more to worry about other than setting up a new alliance. FA takes CFS space today and guess who's next. SA space looks mighty nice. Better wake up Stainers and help your CFS neighbors out or you guys are next.  
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Sabercat
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:35:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Moosehead Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.In turn should it not also be fair to ask SA to help set up this new goverment since they are also neighbours.
I think SA has more to worry about other than setting up a new alliance. FA takes CFS space today and guess who's next. SA space looks mighty nice. Better wake up Stainers and help your CFS neighbors out or you guys are next.  
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Sagainyte
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:40:00 -
[77]
Do you know who currently sits laughing their arses off?
CA is who.
"Attack the FA cowards - it's not like they can hurt you anyway"
"Damn all the pvp'ers left FA to Mace anyway"
"Stop being FA's lapdogs and fight for yourself. What is the worst that could happen?"
"If FA move all their forces into CFS space CA will attack their core"
"FA only want to mine in Fonin anyway. They are pussies and are unable to move away from their blobs"
I hope you see the trend here.
All the outsiders giving advice to UFS. Goating them forward. It was easy since they had nothing to lose and risked nothing.
The real winners here is CA. They have destroyed CFS simply by manipulating people on the forums.
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
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Sagainyte
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:40:00 -
[78]
Do you know who currently sits laughing their arses off?
CA is who.
"Attack the FA cowards - it's not like they can hurt you anyway"
"Damn all the pvp'ers left FA to Mace anyway"
"Stop being FA's lapdogs and fight for yourself. What is the worst that could happen?"
"If FA move all their forces into CFS space CA will attack their core"
"FA only want to mine in Fonin anyway. They are pussies and are unable to move away from their blobs"
I hope you see the trend here.
All the outsiders giving advice to UFS. Goating them forward. It was easy since they had nothing to lose and risked nothing.
The real winners here is CA. They have destroyed CFS simply by manipulating people on the forums.
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:43:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Zemit
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
LOL, you think you will actually see FA in these regions once the war is over? Maybe once a week when they arrive to collect their taxes.
But for the moment, this space is filled with the FA expeditionary fleet. There is no taxes collector but more FA coroners.
War is not over as UFS expected it, and the UFS miners/haulers which representant +50% of their members are :
a) playing Strip Poker in the FA stations b) writting a resignation letter. c) sending a last holomessage to their relatives d) selling their biomass to the chemical industry e) giving intel to the FA spies for reduced charges
(choose one)
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GhorGhor Bey
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:43:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Zemit
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
LOL, you think you will actually see FA in these regions once the war is over? Maybe once a week when they arrive to collect their taxes.
But for the moment, this space is filled with the FA expeditionary fleet. There is no taxes collector but more FA coroners.
War is not over as UFS expected it, and the UFS miners/haulers which representant +50% of their members are :
a) playing Strip Poker in the FA stations b) writting a resignation letter. c) sending a last holomessage to their relatives d) selling their biomass to the chemical industry e) giving intel to the FA spies for reduced charges
(choose one)
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:48:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Sabercat I think SA has more to worry about other than setting up a new alliance. FA takes CFS space today and guess who's next. SA space looks mighty nice. Better wake up Stainers and help your CFS neighbors out or you guys are next.  
Look out, here comes the CA propaganda train!
Well, it worked on CFS, I guess I see why you're willing to try it on SA. But I don't think it's going to work this time. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:48:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Sabercat I think SA has more to worry about other than setting up a new alliance. FA takes CFS space today and guess who's next. SA space looks mighty nice. Better wake up Stainers and help your CFS neighbors out or you guys are next.  
Look out, here comes the CA propaganda train!
Well, it worked on CFS, I guess I see why you're willing to try it on SA. But I don't think it's going to work this time. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:52:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Sagainyte Do you know who currently sits laughing their arses off?
CA is who.
"Attack the FA cowards - it's not like they can hurt you anyway"
"Damn all the pvp'ers left FA to Mace anyway"
"Stop being FA's lapdogs and fight for yourself. What is the worst that could happen?"
"If FA move all their forces into CFS space CA will attack their core"
"FA only want to mine in Fonin anyway. They are pussies and are unable to move away from their blobs"
I hope you see the trend here.
All the outsiders giving advice to UFS. Goating them forward. It was easy since they had nothing to lose and risked nothing.
The real winners here is CA. They have destroyed CFS simply by manipulating people on the forums.
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
Blaming CA for the situation is wholey unfair. The whole incident would never have happened if FA were not exploiting the region. There has been a great deal of discontent for some time throughout the 3 regions. CFS were not the first to say enough is enough, ASCI and some others tried to do the same sometime ago and who KOS'd them and kicked them from the region (it was you CFS and your old QDF/FA chums).
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:52:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Sagainyte Do you know who currently sits laughing their arses off?
CA is who.
"Attack the FA cowards - it's not like they can hurt you anyway"
"Damn all the pvp'ers left FA to Mace anyway"
"Stop being FA's lapdogs and fight for yourself. What is the worst that could happen?"
"If FA move all their forces into CFS space CA will attack their core"
"FA only want to mine in Fonin anyway. They are pussies and are unable to move away from their blobs"
I hope you see the trend here.
All the outsiders giving advice to UFS. Goating them forward. It was easy since they had nothing to lose and risked nothing.
The real winners here is CA. They have destroyed CFS simply by manipulating people on the forums.
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
Blaming CA for the situation is wholey unfair. The whole incident would never have happened if FA were not exploiting the region. There has been a great deal of discontent for some time throughout the 3 regions. CFS were not the first to say enough is enough, ASCI and some others tried to do the same sometime ago and who KOS'd them and kicked them from the region (it was you CFS and your old QDF/FA chums).
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:54:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Sagainyte Do you know who currently sits laughing their arses off?
CA is who.
"Attack the FA cowards - it's not like they can hurt you anyway"
"Damn all the pvp'ers left FA to Mace anyway"
"Stop being FA's lapdogs and fight for yourself. What is the worst that could happen?"
"If FA move all their forces into CFS space CA will attack their core"
"FA only want to mine in Fonin anyway. They are pussies and are unable to move away from their blobs"
I hope you see the trend here.
All the outsiders giving advice to UFS. Goating them forward. It was easy since they had nothing to lose and risked nothing.
The real winners here is CA. They have destroyed CFS simply by manipulating people on the forums.
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
Blaming CA for the situation is wholey unfair. The whole incident would never have happened if FA were not exploiting the region. There has been a great deal of discontent for some time throughout the 3 regions. CFS were not the first to say enough is enough, ASCI and some others tried to do the same sometime ago and who KOS'd them and kicked them from the region (it was you CFS and your old QDF/FA chums).
Yup, FA did fk up there.
They should've done it like CA right from the start. Kill the CFS carebears for the fun of it. I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:54:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Sagainyte Do you know who currently sits laughing their arses off?
CA is who.
"Attack the FA cowards - it's not like they can hurt you anyway"
"Damn all the pvp'ers left FA to Mace anyway"
"Stop being FA's lapdogs and fight for yourself. What is the worst that could happen?"
"If FA move all their forces into CFS space CA will attack their core"
"FA only want to mine in Fonin anyway. They are pussies and are unable to move away from their blobs"
I hope you see the trend here.
All the outsiders giving advice to UFS. Goating them forward. It was easy since they had nothing to lose and risked nothing.
The real winners here is CA. They have destroyed CFS simply by manipulating people on the forums.
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
Blaming CA for the situation is wholey unfair. The whole incident would never have happened if FA were not exploiting the region. There has been a great deal of discontent for some time throughout the 3 regions. CFS were not the first to say enough is enough, ASCI and some others tried to do the same sometime ago and who KOS'd them and kicked them from the region (it was you CFS and your old QDF/FA chums).
Yup, FA did fk up there.
They should've done it like CA right from the start. Kill the CFS carebears for the fun of it. I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:57:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 12:57:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:01:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:01:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
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Balman Weissach
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:04:00 -
[91]
Please guys, stop flaming, stop speak about what you don't know.
FA is in Delve/Pb only because UFS broke a treaty. We want the end of UFS? Yes, but who here would like to give those station too people who have already backstabbed them? We came in those region only because we were attacked here, and couldn't do nothing else except if we wanted to show that we were a miner Alliance. We are strong, and we showed it. Our aim are not and will never be to annexe our neighbors.
You guys would like to let SA think we are going to attack them because we don't ask them about setting a new alliance in PB or something. SA didn't want to take part in this conflict, we just respected their view. SA is and will remain an ally, that what we want.
Stop manipluate or try to everybody, you did well with UFS, letting them believe they could bite us. Now hundred of them are sitting in empire, far from the live they had before. I'm sure they wouldn't have attacked us without the trolls who said we were weak because of the loose of a few PvPers. You Trolls are responsable of this mess up.
FA want just one thing, live in peace with its neighbors. Once people will understand that, all eyes of EVE will see where is the real ennemy of peace. Yes guys, look in the east, that where evil is.
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Balman Weissach
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:04:00 -
[92]
Please guys, stop flaming, stop speak about what you don't know.
FA is in Delve/Pb only because UFS broke a treaty. We want the end of UFS? Yes, but who here would like to give those station too people who have already backstabbed them? We came in those region only because we were attacked here, and couldn't do nothing else except if we wanted to show that we were a miner Alliance. We are strong, and we showed it. Our aim are not and will never be to annexe our neighbors.
You guys would like to let SA think we are going to attack them because we don't ask them about setting a new alliance in PB or something. SA didn't want to take part in this conflict, we just respected their view. SA is and will remain an ally, that what we want.
Stop manipluate or try to everybody, you did well with UFS, letting them believe they could bite us. Now hundred of them are sitting in empire, far from the live they had before. I'm sure they wouldn't have attacked us without the trolls who said we were weak because of the loose of a few PvPers. You Trolls are responsable of this mess up.
FA want just one thing, live in peace with its neighbors. Once people will understand that, all eyes of EVE will see where is the real ennemy of peace. Yes guys, look in the east, that where evil is.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:09:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Walking Contradiction
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine...
Are you sure?
Offtopic: We have 1000 ravens, 1000 megathrons and a few other dual mwd ships ready in the hangars. So we will be able to at least fly another year with dual mwd ;)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:09:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Walking Contradiction
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
Just fine...
Are you sure?
Offtopic: We have 1000 ravens, 1000 megathrons and a few other dual mwd ships ready in the hangars. So we will be able to at least fly another year with dual mwd ;)
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:11:00 -
[95]
Originally by: AvanCade Offtopic: We have 1000 ravens, 1000 megathrons and a few other dual mwd ships ready in the hangars. So we will be able to at least fly another year with dual mwd ;)
My understanding of the change (from Sisi) is that you can fit as many MWDs to your ship as you like but you can only activate one at a time.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:11:00 -
[96]
Originally by: AvanCade Offtopic: We have 1000 ravens, 1000 megathrons and a few other dual mwd ships ready in the hangars. So we will be able to at least fly another year with dual mwd ;)
My understanding of the change (from Sisi) is that you can fit as many MWDs to your ship as you like but you can only activate one at a time.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:14:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Kariss
Originally by: AvanCade Offtopic: We have 1000 ravens, 1000 megathrons and a few other dual mwd ships ready in the hangars. So we will be able to at least fly another year with dual mwd ;)
My understanding of the change (from Sisi) is that you can fit as many MWDs to your ship as you like but you can only activate one at a time.
  ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:14:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Kariss
Originally by: AvanCade Offtopic: We have 1000 ravens, 1000 megathrons and a few other dual mwd ships ready in the hangars. So we will be able to at least fly another year with dual mwd ;)
My understanding of the change (from Sisi) is that you can fit as many MWDs to your ship as you like but you can only activate one at a time.
  ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Tipsy
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:15:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Gevronder Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Yup, that's it. Actually it has more to do with us not wanting to kill people unless it's neccessary or in self-defense.
Contrary to the unsurprising cynical view of the under-bridge dwellers, we'd like to get those who don't want to fight or don't think it's right to fight out of Delve and Period Basis so they can have a chance at coming back later when things have quietened down.
If they really want to be associated with groups that have initiated war in breach of a treaty while also being guilty of exactly that which they suggest we're guilty of, then so be it. I don't think history will show that as being brave devotion to a cause but merely misguided hypocrisy.
FA welcomes and respects those who have made a stand and now choose a different path..
-- Tipsy XFI Chief of Staff |

Tipsy
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:15:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Gevronder Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Yup, that's it. Actually it has more to do with us not wanting to kill people unless it's neccessary or in self-defense.
Contrary to the unsurprising cynical view of the under-bridge dwellers, we'd like to get those who don't want to fight or don't think it's right to fight out of Delve and Period Basis so they can have a chance at coming back later when things have quietened down.
If they really want to be associated with groups that have initiated war in breach of a treaty while also being guilty of exactly that which they suggest we're guilty of, then so be it. I don't think history will show that as being brave devotion to a cause but merely misguided hypocrisy.
FA welcomes and respects those who have made a stand and now choose a different path..
-- Tipsy XFI Chief of Staff |

Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:18:00 -
[101]
i dont see why you all think its the end of the alliance with the loss of dual mwds considering we will just adapt only part of the alliance use's dual mwds as it is so it shouldnt be a huge problems quit trying to turn this into a "the fall of CA thread".
CFS shouldnt give up this early it would be a bad move as the campain is only begining and the more time they stick around the harder it is for FA to do anything as this is a game and people play for fun not to sit around with no fighting going on.... So i would surgest u guys wait till they lose their numbers before hitting them with any major fleets instead go for ganks....GL to you.
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:18:00 -
[102]
i dont see why you all think its the end of the alliance with the loss of dual mwds considering we will just adapt only part of the alliance use's dual mwds as it is so it shouldnt be a huge problems quit trying to turn this into a "the fall of CA thread".
CFS shouldnt give up this early it would be a bad move as the campain is only begining and the more time they stick around the harder it is for FA to do anything as this is a game and people play for fun not to sit around with no fighting going on.... So i would surgest u guys wait till they lose their numbers before hitting them with any major fleets instead go for ganks....GL to you.
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:19:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:19:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:23:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
Strange, your corp is showing as Imperial Academy - which alliance did they join then? 
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:23:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
Strange, your corp is showing as Imperial Academy - which alliance did they join then? 
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:23:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:23:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:25:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Sagainyte
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
Only advice I have seen has been along the lines of: "don't live as slaves, rather die as free men".
Sure I saw that in Sparticus (or was it 'The Alamo'?). Anyway, would you call it bad advice 
I thought it was the foundation of western civilisation.
Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |

Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:25:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Sagainyte
Come on CA, I dare you to tell everybody how sorry you are for your *great* advice.
Only advice I have seen has been along the lines of: "don't live as slaves, rather die as free men".
Sure I saw that in Sparticus (or was it 'The Alamo'?). Anyway, would you call it bad advice 
I thought it was the foundation of western civilisation.
Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |

Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:35:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Kariss
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
Strange, your corp is showing as Imperial Academy - which alliance did they join then? 
Coalition of Flamming Alts
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:35:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Kariss
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
Strange, your corp is showing as Imperial Academy - which alliance did they join then? 
Coalition of Flamming Alts
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:38:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
I will not be dictated to by FA scum.
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:38:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
I will not be dictated to by FA scum.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:40:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
I will not be dictated to by FA scum.
This reply would still be utterly weak even if i was FA.
Clearly a not so clever guy you are.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:40:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
I will not be dictated to by FA scum.
This reply would still be utterly weak even if i was FA.
Clearly a not so clever guy you are.
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:43:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Ogodai John Clearly a not so clever guy you are.
Speak for yourself bud - don't drag us all down
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Gevronder
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:43:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Ogodai John Clearly a not so clever guy you are.
Speak for yourself bud - don't drag us all down
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Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:46:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Elisium Dammar on 25/10/2004 13:53:12 FA give us something official... why the hell does not CFS give us an official statement aswell.
What is the CFS response?! to this so called "offer of peace" ??
Also a few points:
why do people quote 20 posts then just add one smart ass comment at the end? it does not add to your material. it basicley means you have nothing to say. so dont.
and when people say "kthxbye" it paints the picture of a 16 year old *****y school girl. YOU GO GIRL
PS: if you realy are a 16 year old school girl... convo me in game!!  |

Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:46:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Elisium Dammar on 25/10/2004 13:53:12 FA give us something official... why the hell does not CFS give us an official statement aswell.
What is the CFS response?! to this so called "offer of peace" ??
Also a few points:
why do people quote 20 posts then just add one smart ass comment at the end? it does not add to your material. it basicley means you have nothing to say. so dont.
and when people say "kthxbye" it paints the picture of a 16 year old *****y school girl. YOU GO GIRL
PS: if you realy are a 16 year old school girl... convo me in game!!  |

Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:50:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
Is contradicting yourself and then evading all questions cool in your part of the galaxy?
Utterly weak and pathetic. And not so clever.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 13:50:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder Edited by: Gevronder on 25/10/2004 13:22:32
Originally by: Ogodai John
Originally by: Gevronder
Originally by: Ogodai John I still dont get it why it took them so long to finally stomp over them.
Because even with vastly superior numbers FA are still blatantly cr@p?
Ah ok. So what keeps CFS from crushing the blatantly cr@p FA then?
Are you by chance one of those not so clever guys too?
No, my corp was never a memeber of CFS (we decided against membership after the ASCI incident and because of the blatant FA influence and our disdain for all the political wannabee's) although we used the region we left some time ago to join proper, non-lapdog alliance. I still have a soft spot for the region and strongly object to what is going on there right now.
You didnt answer either of my questions.
Is contradicting yourself and then evading all questions cool in your part of the galaxy?
Utterly weak and pathetic. And not so clever.
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2004.10.25 14:00:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Elisium Dammar Edited by: Elisium Dammar on 25/10/2004 13:53:12 FA give us something official... why the hell does not CFS give us an official statement aswell.
What is the CFS response?! to this so called "offer of peace" ??
Also a few points:
why do people quote 20 posts then just add one smart ass comment at the end? it does not add to your material. it basicley means you have nothing to say. so dont.
and when people say "kthxbye" it paints the picture of a 16 year old *****y school girl. YOU GO GIRL
PS: if you realy are a 16 year old school girl... convo me in game!! 
LOL.... OMG Elis... when i talked about schoolgirls u said you were worried about me! Whats up with that?!!?!!!ONEONE!
--
"Its better to burn out then to fade away" - Kurgan
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2004.10.25 14:00:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Elisium Dammar Edited by: Elisium Dammar on 25/10/2004 13:53:12 FA give us something official... why the hell does not CFS give us an official statement aswell.
What is the CFS response?! to this so called "offer of peace" ??
Also a few points:
why do people quote 20 posts then just add one smart ass comment at the end? it does not add to your material. it basicley means you have nothing to say. so dont.
and when people say "kthxbye" it paints the picture of a 16 year old *****y school girl. YOU GO GIRL
PS: if you realy are a 16 year old school girl... convo me in game!! 
LOL.... OMG Elis... when i talked about schoolgirls u said you were worried about me! Whats up with that?!!?!!!ONEONE!
--
"Its better to burn out then to fade away" - Kurgan
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CORE TRADER
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Posted - 2004.10.25 14:23:00 -
[125]
I couldn't help notice all these CA guys here with opinions.
People need to remember that CA has backstabbed and raped the CFS plenty of times in the past. So, lets not look beyond the fact that all CA wants here is pressure of them from Fountain. As they have demonstrated over and over, they couldn't give a stuff about your well being beyond that.
Quote: There is one sa***uard known generally to the wise, which is an advantage and security to all, but especially to democracies as against despots. What is it? Distrust. - Demosthenes
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CORE TRADER
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Posted - 2004.10.25 14:23:00 -
[126]
I couldn't help notice all these CA guys here with opinions.
People need to remember that CA has backstabbed and raped the CFS plenty of times in the past. So, lets not look beyond the fact that all CA wants here is pressure of them from Fountain. As they have demonstrated over and over, they couldn't give a stuff about your well being beyond that.
Quote: There is one sa***uard known generally to the wise, which is an advantage and security to all, but especially to democracies as against despots. What is it? Distrust. - Demosthenes
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Armada Orion
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Posted - 2004.10.25 14:44:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Balman Weissach FA want just one thing, live in peace with its neighbors. Once people will understand that, all eyes of EVE will see where is the real ennemy of peace. Yes guys, look in the east, that where evil is.
If FA truly wants to live in peace with its neighbours, maybe it should look forward to strengthening them, instead of turning them into weak string puppets?
What ultimately caused the CFS 'uprising'? The old and ever present discontent about seeing their home stations in the hands of a self-proclaimed 'friendly' neighbour. FA claims to have held those stations to enforce their own safety, not for greed. Yet if this were truly the case, why did the local population complain about the constant lack of a FA defensive presence in the area? and why set any taxes at all in the stations?
FA is reaping the discontent it sowed over all these months. Had they helped turn their neighbours into strong, independant, yet dependable allies, this would not be happening now.
Oddly enough, the same thing can be said about FA's northern allies NORAD. After BNC left NORAD, thus substantially weakening it, its second-best force, Nemesis, eventually made a power-grabbing move. Alas, this displeased FA, who choose to back up puppet-string corp TheMM - who since then repayed FA's commitment by quitting NORAD altogether. Hence NORAD is now teetering on the verge of collapse, where it could still be a strong neighbour if Nemesis had succeeded BNC as alliance leader.
So please, it's all good to claim a willingness to be living peacefully with your neighbours, but it's NOT all good to try and turn those neighbours into zombified, brainless, enslaved wimps in order to achieve that.
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Armada Orion
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Posted - 2004.10.25 14:44:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Balman Weissach FA want just one thing, live in peace with its neighbors. Once people will understand that, all eyes of EVE will see where is the real ennemy of peace. Yes guys, look in the east, that where evil is.
If FA truly wants to live in peace with its neighbours, maybe it should look forward to strengthening them, instead of turning them into weak string puppets?
What ultimately caused the CFS 'uprising'? The old and ever present discontent about seeing their home stations in the hands of a self-proclaimed 'friendly' neighbour. FA claims to have held those stations to enforce their own safety, not for greed. Yet if this were truly the case, why did the local population complain about the constant lack of a FA defensive presence in the area? and why set any taxes at all in the stations?
FA is reaping the discontent it sowed over all these months. Had they helped turn their neighbours into strong, independant, yet dependable allies, this would not be happening now.
Oddly enough, the same thing can be said about FA's northern allies NORAD. After BNC left NORAD, thus substantially weakening it, its second-best force, Nemesis, eventually made a power-grabbing move. Alas, this displeased FA, who choose to back up puppet-string corp TheMM - who since then repayed FA's commitment by quitting NORAD altogether. Hence NORAD is now teetering on the verge of collapse, where it could still be a strong neighbour if Nemesis had succeeded BNC as alliance leader.
So please, it's all good to claim a willingness to be living peacefully with your neighbours, but it's NOT all good to try and turn those neighbours into zombified, brainless, enslaved wimps in order to achieve that.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:03:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Armada Orion
So please, it's all good to claim a willingness to be living peacefully with your neighbours, but it's NOT all good to try and turn those neighbours into zombified, brainless, enslaved wimps in order to achieve that.
From the looks of it they prefer them simply dead now. 
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:03:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Armada Orion
So please, it's all good to claim a willingness to be living peacefully with your neighbours, but it's NOT all good to try and turn those neighbours into zombified, brainless, enslaved wimps in order to achieve that.
From the looks of it they prefer them simply dead now. 
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:06:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Armada Orion
Originally by: Balman Weissach FA want just one thing, live in peace with its neighbors. Once people will understand that, all eyes of EVE will see where is the real ennemy of peace. Yes guys, look in the east, that where evil is.
If FA truly wants to live in peace with its neighbours, maybe it should look forward to strengthening them, instead of turning them into weak string puppets?
What ultimately caused the CFS 'uprising'? The old and ever present discontent about seeing their home stations in the hands of a self-proclaimed 'friendly' neighbour. FA claims to have held those stations to enforce their own safety, not for greed. Yet if this were truly the case, why did the local population complain about the constant lack of a FA defensive presence in the area? and why set any taxes at all in the stations?
FA is reaping the discontent it sowed over all these months. Had they helped turn their neighbours into strong, independant, yet dependable allies, this would not be happening now.
Oddly enough, the same thing can be said about FA's northern allies NORAD. After BNC left NORAD, thus substantially weakening it, its second-best force, Nemesis, eventually made a power-grabbing move. Alas, this displeased FA, who choose to back up puppet-string corp TheMM - who since then repayed FA's commitment by quitting NORAD altogether. Hence NORAD is now teetering on the verge of collapse, where it could still be a strong neighbour if Nemesis had succeeded BNC as alliance leader.
So please, it's all good to claim a willingness to be living peacefully with your neighbours, but it's NOT all good to try and turn those neighbours into zombified, brainless, enslaved wimps in order to achieve that.
In truth, I'll admit I'm not in possession of all of the facts but this station-ownership business confuses me. I mean, why does it really matter who has their name above the door? Surely if people can do what they want to do - mining, npc hunting etc, then why would they give a rat's ass what the name of the station is? I'm sure someone can put me straight on the key points but personally, if I were a humble corp member in either an FA corp or a UFS corp, I doubt i'd really care either way as long as I could dock.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:06:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Armada Orion
Originally by: Balman Weissach FA want just one thing, live in peace with its neighbors. Once people will understand that, all eyes of EVE will see where is the real ennemy of peace. Yes guys, look in the east, that where evil is.
If FA truly wants to live in peace with its neighbours, maybe it should look forward to strengthening them, instead of turning them into weak string puppets?
What ultimately caused the CFS 'uprising'? The old and ever present discontent about seeing their home stations in the hands of a self-proclaimed 'friendly' neighbour. FA claims to have held those stations to enforce their own safety, not for greed. Yet if this were truly the case, why did the local population complain about the constant lack of a FA defensive presence in the area? and why set any taxes at all in the stations?
FA is reaping the discontent it sowed over all these months. Had they helped turn their neighbours into strong, independant, yet dependable allies, this would not be happening now.
Oddly enough, the same thing can be said about FA's northern allies NORAD. After BNC left NORAD, thus substantially weakening it, its second-best force, Nemesis, eventually made a power-grabbing move. Alas, this displeased FA, who choose to back up puppet-string corp TheMM - who since then repayed FA's commitment by quitting NORAD altogether. Hence NORAD is now teetering on the verge of collapse, where it could still be a strong neighbour if Nemesis had succeeded BNC as alliance leader.
So please, it's all good to claim a willingness to be living peacefully with your neighbours, but it's NOT all good to try and turn those neighbours into zombified, brainless, enslaved wimps in order to achieve that.
In truth, I'll admit I'm not in possession of all of the facts but this station-ownership business confuses me. I mean, why does it really matter who has their name above the door? Surely if people can do what they want to do - mining, npc hunting etc, then why would they give a rat's ass what the name of the station is? I'm sure someone can put me straight on the key points but personally, if I were a humble corp member in either an FA corp or a UFS corp, I doubt i'd really care either way as long as I could dock.
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Foyle
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:08:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Foyle on 25/10/2004 15:11:14 The offer leaves nothing for their future in EVE.
It is an insult at best.
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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Foyle
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:08:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Foyle on 25/10/2004 15:11:14 The offer leaves nothing for their future in EVE.
It is an insult at best.
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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frederikop
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:28:00 -
[135]
insult or not
it reflects the current situation.
CA can never understand this so stop trying to get these poor guys to act like you would have done.
Fact is this: the gap from the established powerhouses to the fledgling alliances has grown to big. There is simply so much work, organisation,security, training, experience etc.
So many places the chain can and will break if a new alliance insists on a powerstrugle.
How is Xetic doing vs CA? I submit they woud have been dead if CA maintained the focus FA brings on their current operation. Problem is CA shifts from fighting 1 enemy to the next. This week Xetic, next week SA, next week defend homeland...cycle going on and on.
The current war in the Querious, Delve and Period Basis regions is over. It is a fact. It would be an insult to war to use that word any longer.
Time to be pragmatic for UFS and friends. Those that truly like pvp should stay and stick it to their enemies. Those that want to build something should look real hard at the offer in this thread.
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frederikop
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:28:00 -
[136]
insult or not
it reflects the current situation.
CA can never understand this so stop trying to get these poor guys to act like you would have done.
Fact is this: the gap from the established powerhouses to the fledgling alliances has grown to big. There is simply so much work, organisation,security, training, experience etc.
So many places the chain can and will break if a new alliance insists on a powerstrugle.
How is Xetic doing vs CA? I submit they woud have been dead if CA maintained the focus FA brings on their current operation. Problem is CA shifts from fighting 1 enemy to the next. This week Xetic, next week SA, next week defend homeland...cycle going on and on.
The current war in the Querious, Delve and Period Basis regions is over. It is a fact. It would be an insult to war to use that word any longer.
Time to be pragmatic for UFS and friends. Those that truly like pvp should stay and stick it to their enemies. Those that want to build something should look real hard at the offer in this thread.
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:35:00 -
[137]
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
So the right thing to do would be to advise them to give in and be the FAs *****es for the rest of the time they exist in EVE. Get a grip!
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:35:00 -
[138]
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
So the right thing to do would be to advise them to give in and be the FAs *****es for the rest of the time they exist in EVE. Get a grip!
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:37:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Metal Dude on 25/10/2004 15:45:28 If CA is so righteous, why donÆt they help CFS instead of killing and flaming them every chance they get? I would think that a PVP alliance that hates FA would be first to jump at the opportunity to fight/kill FA. But instead, all they do is smack on these forums and tell other alliances what they should do.
HowÆs that 20% tax working for CA? Is everybody happy about that? Rise up you poor CA slaves and fight against your oppressor, the evil leadership of CA. 20% taxes? WhereÆs all that ISK going? Anyone giving reports on how the isk is being spent? Is the isk just being used to replace the leaderships ships or does every member of CA that loses their ship in PVP gets it replaced?
Sounds familiar?
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |

Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:37:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Metal Dude on 25/10/2004 15:45:28 If CA is so righteous, why donÆt they help CFS instead of killing and flaming them every chance they get? I would think that a PVP alliance that hates FA would be first to jump at the opportunity to fight/kill FA. But instead, all they do is smack on these forums and tell other alliances what they should do.
HowÆs that 20% tax working for CA? Is everybody happy about that? Rise up you poor CA slaves and fight against your oppressor, the evil leadership of CA. 20% taxes? WhereÆs all that ISK going? Anyone giving reports on how the isk is being spent? Is the isk just being used to replace the leaderships ships or does every member of CA that loses their ship in PVP gets it replaced?
Sounds familiar?
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |

Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:40:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Lexus666
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
So the right thing to do would be to advise them to give in and be the FAs *****es for the rest of the time they exist in EVE. Get a grip!
I guess FA prefers them dead anyway. This way both sides get what they want and everyone is happy.
Dunno about morals and stuff, but starting a war and losing it after less than one week of fighting is pretty pathetic no matter how you look at it.
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Ogodai John
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:40:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Lexus666
Originally by: GhorGhor Bey
Originally by: Lexus666 I'm probaly on some shabby list of theirs while ever FA exist but I don't really care! They should be on yours! Stand up for yourselves or be prepared to see their POSs all over your space while you bend over and take it from behind by they greedy ****ers!
You say your are kos and you don't care ? it's maybe because you don't live in FA space nor in Delve or PB. The guys in UFS do live there, so KOS mean something for a local resident when he can't even undock of a station.
Next time before you give your free advise, think twice 
So the right thing to do would be to advise them to give in and be the FAs *****es for the rest of the time they exist in EVE. Get a grip!
I guess FA prefers them dead anyway. This way both sides get what they want and everyone is happy.
Dunno about morals and stuff, but starting a war and losing it after less than one week of fighting is pretty pathetic no matter how you look at it.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:48:00 -
[143]
If CA truly cared about the CFS in this newly found, enlightened, spiritual way that they claim to have come across they would give the CFS two regions in CA space to manage, own, claim and work out of.
It's amazing to me how quickly people in the CFS have forgotten that CA was... THREE WEEKS AGO... the only enemy they had. At that time any CFS person you talked to would have sworn up and down that anyone found on the side of CA is on the wrong side of EVE. Now here they sit, with CA offering to fight alongside them and them gradually accepting.
From an unofficial (non-FIX sponsored) point of view I would recommend that every corporation currently flying the CFS banner consider this offer seriously as it may be your last chance before becoming permanently affiliated with CA. You were misled, you tried to do the thing you thought was right and it didn't work out. Knowing when to concede your losses is the hallmark of good leadership. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:48:00 -
[144]
If CA truly cared about the CFS in this newly found, enlightened, spiritual way that they claim to have come across they would give the CFS two regions in CA space to manage, own, claim and work out of.
It's amazing to me how quickly people in the CFS have forgotten that CA was... THREE WEEKS AGO... the only enemy they had. At that time any CFS person you talked to would have sworn up and down that anyone found on the side of CA is on the wrong side of EVE. Now here they sit, with CA offering to fight alongside them and them gradually accepting.
From an unofficial (non-FIX sponsored) point of view I would recommend that every corporation currently flying the CFS banner consider this offer seriously as it may be your last chance before becoming permanently affiliated with CA. You were misled, you tried to do the thing you thought was right and it didn't work out. Knowing when to concede your losses is the hallmark of good leadership. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:53:00 -
[145]
Originally by: S3VYN If CA truly cared about the CFS in this newly found, enlightened, spiritual way that they claim to have come across they would give the CFS two regions in CA space to manage, own, claim and work out of.
It's amazing to me how quickly people in the CFS have forgotten that CA was... THREE WEEKS AGO... the only enemy they had. At that time any CFS person you talked to would have sworn up and down that anyone found on the side of CA is on the wrong side of EVE. Now here they sit, with CA offering to fight alongside them and them gradually accepting.
From an unofficial (non-FIX sponsored) point of view I would recommend that every corporation currently flying the CFS banner consider this offer seriously as it may be your last chance before becoming permanently affiliated with CA. You were misled, you tried to do the thing you thought was right and it didn't work out. Knowing when to concede your losses is the hallmark of good leadership.
OMG just when i think you're making sense you go an say somthing like that! |

Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2004.10.25 15:53:00 -
[146]
Originally by: S3VYN If CA truly cared about the CFS in this newly found, enlightened, spiritual way that they claim to have come across they would give the CFS two regions in CA space to manage, own, claim and work out of.
It's amazing to me how quickly people in the CFS have forgotten that CA was... THREE WEEKS AGO... the only enemy they had. At that time any CFS person you talked to would have sworn up and down that anyone found on the side of CA is on the wrong side of EVE. Now here they sit, with CA offering to fight alongside them and them gradually accepting.
From an unofficial (non-FIX sponsored) point of view I would recommend that every corporation currently flying the CFS banner consider this offer seriously as it may be your last chance before becoming permanently affiliated with CA. You were misled, you tried to do the thing you thought was right and it didn't work out. Knowing when to concede your losses is the hallmark of good leadership.
OMG just when i think you're making sense you go an say somthing like that! |

DomainX
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Posted - 2004.10.25 16:36:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 25/10/2004 15:45:28 HowÆs that 20% tax working for CA? Is everybody happy about that? Rise up you poor CA slaves and fight against your oppressor, the evil leadership of CA. 20% taxes? WhereÆs all that ISK going? Anyone giving reports on how the isk is being spent? Is the isk just being used to replace the leaderships ships or does every member of CA that loses their ship in PVP gets it replaced?
Sounds familiar?
the tax goes to the "dark queen"
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DomainX
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Posted - 2004.10.25 16:36:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 25/10/2004 15:45:28 HowÆs that 20% tax working for CA? Is everybody happy about that? Rise up you poor CA slaves and fight against your oppressor, the evil leadership of CA. 20% taxes? WhereÆs all that ISK going? Anyone giving reports on how the isk is being spent? Is the isk just being used to replace the leaderships ships or does every member of CA that loses their ship in PVP gets it replaced?
Sounds familiar?
the tax goes to the "dark queen"
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.10.25 16:47:00 -
[149]
This strikes me as an attempt to bring a swift and favourable end to the conflict.
FA are known for being greedy miners, and every day spent in a combat setup is a day of mining arkanor lost.
Soon the FA troops will look longingly at their brethren who stayed behind in fountain. They will hear the call of their mining lasers and feel the pain of lost isk bypassing their fat wallets.
In truh FA cannot sustain a fleet, they are to damn greedy and to damn lazy, FA could not even hold D4KU against a band of 40 Freedom fighters, how do they expect to hold 3 regions against an alliance.
They cannot and if UFS holds strong they will not. LMM have been picking off replacement battleships before they even reach fountain. We have seen the fighting spirit of the UFS warriors that have entered Fountain from Aridia and have assisted and aided them whenever and wereever possible.
The UFS spirit is strong because they fight for a just cause. The FA spirit is weak and boyed up by a few victorious nights in their blobs. Corps with no interest in UFS space are already showing dessent and wanting to end the war now with victory. don't give it them. Fountain forces will disprese and they will be less threat than the raids from CA.
Vary your tactics UFS hide when you are few, strike when you are many. Use guerilla warfare against the blobs. hit the pilots leaving the blobs to return to fountain, hit them hard, hit them fast then melt away until the blob gets bored.
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.10.25 16:47:00 -
[150]
This strikes me as an attempt to bring a swift and favourable end to the conflict.
FA are known for being greedy miners, and every day spent in a combat setup is a day of mining arkanor lost.
Soon the FA troops will look longingly at their brethren who stayed behind in fountain. They will hear the call of their mining lasers and feel the pain of lost isk bypassing their fat wallets.
In truh FA cannot sustain a fleet, they are to damn greedy and to damn lazy, FA could not even hold D4KU against a band of 40 Freedom fighters, how do they expect to hold 3 regions against an alliance.
They cannot and if UFS holds strong they will not. LMM have been picking off replacement battleships before they even reach fountain. We have seen the fighting spirit of the UFS warriors that have entered Fountain from Aridia and have assisted and aided them whenever and wereever possible.
The UFS spirit is strong because they fight for a just cause. The FA spirit is weak and boyed up by a few victorious nights in their blobs. Corps with no interest in UFS space are already showing dessent and wanting to end the war now with victory. don't give it them. Fountain forces will disprese and they will be less threat than the raids from CA.
Vary your tactics UFS hide when you are few, strike when you are many. Use guerilla warfare against the blobs. hit the pilots leaving the blobs to return to fountain, hit them hard, hit them fast then melt away until the blob gets bored.
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Drakona Malchon
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Posted - 2004.10.25 16:49:00 -
[151]
The UFS fought, the UFS lost. Delve space is patrolled and owned by FA now. FA offers all corps who were not mayor plotters of this conflict, the chance to get their ships and belongings out.
This is something which should be taken into account. FA does not demand any ISK, or material compensation for this battle. I hope all those who have to leave now, fully realize how much they were in paradise and how bitter that apple tastes which they have been given by eve on that sunday night when they attacked the stations. FA would have liked to have a strong and peaceful neighbour.
In retrospect, compare the CA attack on delve and the FA attack on delve... what was better organized? If after a 5 days war, FA has shattered an alliance, which was able to repel the attacks of CA for 3 weeks. What does that tell of the military strenght and focus of the fountain alliance versus the one of Cursed Alliance? What about the capability of their leaders?
We fought, we won. Now we offer a respected way to leave this conflict with most of your belongings. (the ones you did not loose in the battles) I think this offer should be taken as is, a way to keep on going in this world. Search for other places. Look for bigger corps. Corps of 5 people, how can you expect to survice in places which are so dangerous. Get organized, start to rebuild, and don't look on this conflict with too much grudges. Sadly this all would not have happened if you hadn't listened to so many forum trolls which state how weak and injust FA is.
You should always be judged by your actions, not by what you say. FA has acted, we held out our hand with this. Take it.
Drakona Malchon, CEO
Free-Space-Ranger
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Drakona Malchon
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Posted - 2004.10.25 16:49:00 -
[152]
The UFS fought, the UFS lost. Delve space is patrolled and owned by FA now. FA offers all corps who were not mayor plotters of this conflict, the chance to get their ships and belongings out.
This is something which should be taken into account. FA does not demand any ISK, or material compensation for this battle. I hope all those who have to leave now, fully realize how much they were in paradise and how bitter that apple tastes which they have been given by eve on that sunday night when they attacked the stations. FA would have liked to have a strong and peaceful neighbour.
In retrospect, compare the CA attack on delve and the FA attack on delve... what was better organized? If after a 5 days war, FA has shattered an alliance, which was able to repel the attacks of CA for 3 weeks. What does that tell of the military strenght and focus of the fountain alliance versus the one of Cursed Alliance? What about the capability of their leaders?
We fought, we won. Now we offer a respected way to leave this conflict with most of your belongings. (the ones you did not loose in the battles) I think this offer should be taken as is, a way to keep on going in this world. Search for other places. Look for bigger corps. Corps of 5 people, how can you expect to survice in places which are so dangerous. Get organized, start to rebuild, and don't look on this conflict with too much grudges. Sadly this all would not have happened if you hadn't listened to so many forum trolls which state how weak and injust FA is.
You should always be judged by your actions, not by what you say. FA has acted, we held out our hand with this. Take it.
Drakona Malchon, CEO
Free-Space-Ranger
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Jodrell
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:09:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Jodrell on 25/10/2004 17:14:25 Firstly, the arrogance of FA staggers me and the foolishness of all non FA alliances also amazes me.
FA wins by keeping everyone else in a permanent state of war so that they can continue to gather tech II BPO's and amass isk so that in their minds someday the whole Eve cluster will be controlled in some form by FA.
CA seem to me to finally have woken up and smelt the coffee and are starting to understand that you can't fight everyone successfully (before all the CA get on here and proclaim their uberness, even you understand that perpetual war only helps FA). However, when CA say that they have changed and are expressing support for CFS, people in Xif etc flame them for doing so? I don't get it?
I think that the other alliances should have a serious look at FA and how it operates and put aside their differences and wipe them out (IMHO they offer nothing except greed and self obsession). Then everyone can get back to fighting if they so wish.
I picked up on this 'gem' from the previous poster (edited to highlight points)
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
The UFS fought, the UFS lost. Delve space is patrolled and owned by FA now.
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
I hope all those who have to leave now, fully realize how much they were in paradise and how bitter that apple tastes which they have been given by eve on that sunday night when they attacked the stations.
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
In retrospect, compare the CA attack on delve and the FA attack on delve... what was better organized? If after a 5 days war, FA has shattered an alliance, which was able to repel the attacks of CA for 3 weeks. What does that tell of the military strenght and focus of the fountain alliance versus the one of Cursed Alliance? What about the capability of their leaders?
We fought, we won.
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
Get organized, start to rebuild, and don't look on this conflict with too much grudges. Sadly this all would not have happened if you hadn't listened to so many forum trolls which state how weak and injust FA is.
FA has acted, we held out our hand with this. Take it.
Drakona Malchon, CEO
So basically the deal is, that you play the game the way FA wants it played, if you don't then you will be spanked like naughty children and you should be grateful that FA fleeced you with taxation for no return as it is all you deserved.
I hope you hold out for a while as FA will not be able to support their war effort long term (not materially, pyschologically), as time goes on their blobs of doom will shrink and their losses will rise as their greed draws them back to Fountain.
FA are unimaginative and manipulative and I personally support CFS 100% in what they are doing and say shame on the other alliances especially CA/SA/Xif for letting them die.
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Jodrell
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:09:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Jodrell on 25/10/2004 17:14:25 Firstly, the arrogance of FA staggers me and the foolishness of all non FA alliances also amazes me.
FA wins by keeping everyone else in a permanent state of war so that they can continue to gather tech II BPO's and amass isk so that in their minds someday the whole Eve cluster will be controlled in some form by FA.
CA seem to me to finally have woken up and smelt the coffee and are starting to understand that you can't fight everyone successfully (before all the CA get on here and proclaim their uberness, even you understand that perpetual war only helps FA). However, when CA say that they have changed and are expressing support for CFS, people in Xif etc flame them for doing so? I don't get it?
I think that the other alliances should have a serious look at FA and how it operates and put aside their differences and wipe them out (IMHO they offer nothing except greed and self obsession). Then everyone can get back to fighting if they so wish.
I picked up on this 'gem' from the previous poster (edited to highlight points)
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
The UFS fought, the UFS lost. Delve space is patrolled and owned by FA now.
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
I hope all those who have to leave now, fully realize how much they were in paradise and how bitter that apple tastes which they have been given by eve on that sunday night when they attacked the stations.
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
In retrospect, compare the CA attack on delve and the FA attack on delve... what was better organized? If after a 5 days war, FA has shattered an alliance, which was able to repel the attacks of CA for 3 weeks. What does that tell of the military strenght and focus of the fountain alliance versus the one of Cursed Alliance? What about the capability of their leaders?
We fought, we won.
Originally by: Drakona Malchon
Get organized, start to rebuild, and don't look on this conflict with too much grudges. Sadly this all would not have happened if you hadn't listened to so many forum trolls which state how weak and injust FA is.
FA has acted, we held out our hand with this. Take it.
Drakona Malchon, CEO
So basically the deal is, that you play the game the way FA wants it played, if you don't then you will be spanked like naughty children and you should be grateful that FA fleeced you with taxation for no return as it is all you deserved.
I hope you hold out for a while as FA will not be able to support their war effort long term (not materially, pyschologically), as time goes on their blobs of doom will shrink and their losses will rise as their greed draws them back to Fountain.
FA are unimaginative and manipulative and I personally support CFS 100% in what they are doing and say shame on the other alliances especially CA/SA/Xif for letting them die.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:14:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Drakona Malchon In retrospect, compare the CA attack on delve and the FA attack on delve... what was better organized? If after a 5 days war, FA has shattered an alliance, which was able to repel the attacks of CA for 3 weeks. What does that tell of the military strenght and focus of the fountain alliance versus the one of Cursed Alliance? What about the capability of their leaders?
It shows that .. CA wanted to fight in that instance, whereas FA wanted to blob. 
It is out of the question that FA has more pvp willing pilots than CFS/UFS and can bring more pilots together in a blob .. consequently they can blob up CFS space for a few days, but - considering that PB is rather out of the way from Fountain - I don't know how long they can keep those numbers up as long as nothing much is happening.
The question of course is, if UFS are patient and determined enough to stick it out or if some/enough of their corps fold early. 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:14:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Drakona Malchon In retrospect, compare the CA attack on delve and the FA attack on delve... what was better organized? If after a 5 days war, FA has shattered an alliance, which was able to repel the attacks of CA for 3 weeks. What does that tell of the military strenght and focus of the fountain alliance versus the one of Cursed Alliance? What about the capability of their leaders?
It shows that .. CA wanted to fight in that instance, whereas FA wanted to blob. 
It is out of the question that FA has more pvp willing pilots than CFS/UFS and can bring more pilots together in a blob .. consequently they can blob up CFS space for a few days, but - considering that PB is rather out of the way from Fountain - I don't know how long they can keep those numbers up as long as nothing much is happening.
The question of course is, if UFS are patient and determined enough to stick it out or if some/enough of their corps fold early. 
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The Mystif
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:26:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash This strikes me as an attempt to bring a swift and favourable end to the conflict.
No s**t Sherlock.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash FA are known for being greedy miners, and every day spent in a combat setup is a day of mining arkanor lost.
You mean FA are known for being able to make large amounts of ISK in various activities.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Soon the FA troops will look longingly at their brethren who stayed behind in fountain. They will hear the call of their mining lasers and feel the pain of lost isk bypassing their fat wallets.
All i hear is people complaining about the lack of UFS targets.. the people who are down there were having some of the best fun they've had in this game to-date.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash In truh FA cannot sustain a fleet, they are to damn greedy and to damn lazy, FA could not even hold D4KU against a band of 40 Freedom fighters, how do they expect to hold 3 regions against an alliance
Cannot sustain a fleet.. what? Are you seriously basing this on the fact that the second a fleet shows up in 3WE or D4 that you can't gank, you run to your SS like your arse was on fire.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash They cannot and if UFS holds strong they will not. LMM have been picking off replacement battleships before they even reach fountain. We have seen the fighting spirit of the UFS warriors that have entered Fountain from Aridia and have assisted and aided them whenever and wereever possible.
If you have it's not been noticed and you failed as they really didn't do very well. Did you teach them how to SS?
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash The UFS spirit is strong because they fight for a just cause. The FA spirit is weak and boyed up by a few victorious nights in their blobs. Corps with no interest in UFS space are already showing dessent and wanting to end the war now with victory. don't give it them. Fountain forces will disprese and they will be less threat than the raids from CA
People are gettong bored by the lack of viable targets, perhaps your SS lessons have paid off after all. And speaking of UFS spirit, you must be talking about those that haven't fled to empire right?
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Vary your tactics UFS hide when you are few, strike when you are many. Use guerilla warfare against the blobs. hit the pilots leaving the blobs to return to fountain, hit them hard, hit them fast then melt away until the blob gets bored
Translation: "If there's a solo target, hit it with your 4+ ships, if there are any more, do what we do and hide."
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The Mystif
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:26:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash This strikes me as an attempt to bring a swift and favourable end to the conflict.
No s**t Sherlock.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash FA are known for being greedy miners, and every day spent in a combat setup is a day of mining arkanor lost.
You mean FA are known for being able to make large amounts of ISK in various activities.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Soon the FA troops will look longingly at their brethren who stayed behind in fountain. They will hear the call of their mining lasers and feel the pain of lost isk bypassing their fat wallets.
All i hear is people complaining about the lack of UFS targets.. the people who are down there were having some of the best fun they've had in this game to-date.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash In truh FA cannot sustain a fleet, they are to damn greedy and to damn lazy, FA could not even hold D4KU against a band of 40 Freedom fighters, how do they expect to hold 3 regions against an alliance
Cannot sustain a fleet.. what? Are you seriously basing this on the fact that the second a fleet shows up in 3WE or D4 that you can't gank, you run to your SS like your arse was on fire.
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash They cannot and if UFS holds strong they will not. LMM have been picking off replacement battleships before they even reach fountain. We have seen the fighting spirit of the UFS warriors that have entered Fountain from Aridia and have assisted and aided them whenever and wereever possible.
If you have it's not been noticed and you failed as they really didn't do very well. Did you teach them how to SS?
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash The UFS spirit is strong because they fight for a just cause. The FA spirit is weak and boyed up by a few victorious nights in their blobs. Corps with no interest in UFS space are already showing dessent and wanting to end the war now with victory. don't give it them. Fountain forces will disprese and they will be less threat than the raids from CA
People are gettong bored by the lack of viable targets, perhaps your SS lessons have paid off after all. And speaking of UFS spirit, you must be talking about those that haven't fled to empire right?
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Vary your tactics UFS hide when you are few, strike when you are many. Use guerilla warfare against the blobs. hit the pilots leaving the blobs to return to fountain, hit them hard, hit them fast then melt away until the blob gets bored
Translation: "If there's a solo target, hit it with your 4+ ships, if there are any more, do what we do and hide."
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:42:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Kariss Edited by: Kariss on 25/10/2004 12:32:23
Originally by: Elisium Dammar Translation: DO AS FA SAYS OR DIE, YOU HAVE 48 HOURS
Acually i kinda respect that, they are winning the war, they know it, they make great dictorial statments like that. FA make the ultimate bad guys and i think it adds to the fun and roleplay.
I was trying to think of a film or events from history which are similar to the current state of the UFS thing and the first one that popped into my head was the Star Wars universe. There we have the Rebel Alliance (UFS) fighting for freedom from tyranny and the evil Empire who just like shooting stuff (CA) and then there is the greedy Trade Federation (guess who?) who blocked off Naboo with a huge Battleship fleet when it realized it's profits were going to be hit.
[/pointless but self-entertaining post]
edited: grammatical errors
if thats the case KILL JAR JAR BINKS, HES IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL --------------------------------------------------------
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:42:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Kariss Edited by: Kariss on 25/10/2004 12:32:23
Originally by: Elisium Dammar Translation: DO AS FA SAYS OR DIE, YOU HAVE 48 HOURS
Acually i kinda respect that, they are winning the war, they know it, they make great dictorial statments like that. FA make the ultimate bad guys and i think it adds to the fun and roleplay.
I was trying to think of a film or events from history which are similar to the current state of the UFS thing and the first one that popped into my head was the Star Wars universe. There we have the Rebel Alliance (UFS) fighting for freedom from tyranny and the evil Empire who just like shooting stuff (CA) and then there is the greedy Trade Federation (guess who?) who blocked off Naboo with a huge Battleship fleet when it realized it's profits were going to be hit.
[/pointless but self-entertaining post]
edited: grammatical errors
if thats the case KILL JAR JAR BINKS, HES IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL --------------------------------------------------------
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Desire Evenmore
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Posted - 2004.10.25 18:07:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Jodrell Edited by: Jodrell on 25/10/2004 17:14:25 Firstly, the arrogance of FA staggers me and the foolishness of all non FA alliances also amazes me.
FA wins by keeping everyone else in a permanent state of war so that they can continue to gather tech II BPO's and amass isk so that in their minds someday the whole Eve cluster will be controlled in some form by FA.
CA seem to me to finally have woken up and smelt the coffee and are starting to understand that you can't fight everyone successfully (before all the CA get on here and proclaim their uberness, even you understand that perpetual war only helps FA). However, when CA say that they have changed and are expressing support for CFS, people in Xif etc flame them for doing so? I don't get it?
I think that the other alliances should have a serious look at FA and how it operates and put aside their differences and wipe them out (IMHO they offer nothing except greed and self obsession). Then everyone can get back to fighting if they so wish.
So basically the deal is, that you play the game the way FA wants it played, if you don't then you will be spanked like naughty children and you should be grateful that FA fleeced you with taxation for no return as it is all you deserved.
I hope you hold out for a while as FA will not be able to support their war effort long term (not materially, pyschologically), as time goes on their blobs of doom will shrink and their losses will rise as their greed draws them back to Fountain.
FA are unimaginative and manipulative and I personally support CFS 100% in what they are doing and say shame on the other alliances especially CA/SA/Xif for letting them die.
I can spot the CA alt a mile away. How can I tell the CA alts from other alts? Well one tell tale sign is that they always proclaim their enemies as arrogant, especially the FA and Evolution. That or being "greedy."
And it is in the best interest for the CA, well the corporations leading the CA, to be in a perpetual state of war. The antics of a few corporation and their mouth pieces, namely VOTF, OC, and Shinra keep the aggression against the CA kept to high level. If they didn't, how else would they be able to justify the 20% refine tax they impose to fund their PvP activities? They wouldn't be able to. That's why you always see members of their corporations attacking everyone in game and on the forums.
I bet if those 3 corporations stopped forum warrioring and constantly attacking almost every alliance, CA would face a lot less hostility. But it's not in the interest of those 3 corporations, so you won't see that happening soon.
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Desire Evenmore
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Posted - 2004.10.25 18:07:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Jodrell Edited by: Jodrell on 25/10/2004 17:14:25 Firstly, the arrogance of FA staggers me and the foolishness of all non FA alliances also amazes me.
FA wins by keeping everyone else in a permanent state of war so that they can continue to gather tech II BPO's and amass isk so that in their minds someday the whole Eve cluster will be controlled in some form by FA.
CA seem to me to finally have woken up and smelt the coffee and are starting to understand that you can't fight everyone successfully (before all the CA get on here and proclaim their uberness, even you understand that perpetual war only helps FA). However, when CA say that they have changed and are expressing support for CFS, people in Xif etc flame them for doing so? I don't get it?
I think that the other alliances should have a serious look at FA and how it operates and put aside their differences and wipe them out (IMHO they offer nothing except greed and self obsession). Then everyone can get back to fighting if they so wish.
So basically the deal is, that you play the game the way FA wants it played, if you don't then you will be spanked like naughty children and you should be grateful that FA fleeced you with taxation for no return as it is all you deserved.
I hope you hold out for a while as FA will not be able to support their war effort long term (not materially, pyschologically), as time goes on their blobs of doom will shrink and their losses will rise as their greed draws them back to Fountain.
FA are unimaginative and manipulative and I personally support CFS 100% in what they are doing and say shame on the other alliances especially CA/SA/Xif for letting them die.
I can spot the CA alt a mile away. How can I tell the CA alts from other alts? Well one tell tale sign is that they always proclaim their enemies as arrogant, especially the FA and Evolution. That or being "greedy."
And it is in the best interest for the CA, well the corporations leading the CA, to be in a perpetual state of war. The antics of a few corporation and their mouth pieces, namely VOTF, OC, and Shinra keep the aggression against the CA kept to high level. If they didn't, how else would they be able to justify the 20% refine tax they impose to fund their PvP activities? They wouldn't be able to. That's why you always see members of their corporations attacking everyone in game and on the forums.
I bet if those 3 corporations stopped forum warrioring and constantly attacking almost every alliance, CA would face a lot less hostility. But it's not in the interest of those 3 corporations, so you won't see that happening soon.
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.10.25 18:32:00 -
[163]
bull**** offer keep on fighting CFS ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.10.25 18:32:00 -
[164]
bull**** offer keep on fighting CFS ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Tail Gunner
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Posted - 2004.10.25 18:57:00 -
[165]
Since your offer seems to be geared for each corp of UFS and as Senior Parnter of Event Horizon Industires my response to your generous offer is as follows:
Take your offer and Removed.
Also as to us breaking the treaty that you continualy enjoyed bashing over our heads every time you thought we stepped out of a line that wasnt even yours to consider. You never defended the stations or the areas that u claimed to be your and I see this happening again with you using of the Querious Defense Forces to maintain security in these areas they will wake up and see that there being bent over a table just as you were trying with UFS and they will turn also so enjoy your party while it lasts because we wont leave and we wont be peaceful
Tail Gunner Senior Partner Event Horizon Industires
Edited. Keep it friendly -Zhuge
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Tail Gunner
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Posted - 2004.10.25 18:57:00 -
[166]
Since your offer seems to be geared for each corp of UFS and as Senior Parnter of Event Horizon Industires my response to your generous offer is as follows:
Take your offer and Removed.
Also as to us breaking the treaty that you continualy enjoyed bashing over our heads every time you thought we stepped out of a line that wasnt even yours to consider. You never defended the stations or the areas that u claimed to be your and I see this happening again with you using of the Querious Defense Forces to maintain security in these areas they will wake up and see that there being bent over a table just as you were trying with UFS and they will turn also so enjoy your party while it lasts because we wont leave and we wont be peaceful
Tail Gunner Senior Partner Event Horizon Industires
Edited. Keep it friendly -Zhuge
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Raven Fury
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Posted - 2004.10.25 19:21:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Tail Gunner Removed. -Zhuge
So, you prefer to go back to empire teh hard way? cause i doubt that you'll be able to live in teh UFS (or shall i say FA?) territory ever again, maybe teh FA should claim delve and period basis, that way, thay would make it clear that UFS will never be able to live ther again, that would make things simpler imho |

Raven Fury
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Posted - 2004.10.25 19:21:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Tail Gunner Removed. -Zhuge
So, you prefer to go back to empire teh hard way? cause i doubt that you'll be able to live in teh UFS (or shall i say FA?) territory ever again, maybe teh FA should claim delve and period basis, that way, thay would make it clear that UFS will never be able to live ther again, that would make things simpler imho |

Insane Damage
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Posted - 2004.10.25 19:43:00 -
[169]
This war has been between FA and CFS, lots of CA members are replying expressing their opinions but tbh who asked for CA's opinions, this isnt their war. They saying that cfs should attack fa otherwise they will never get their stations, look at what happened, cfs attacked fa and lost, so now they lost their chance at owning the stations, their region and alot of ships.... CA got what they wanted ( a war between its 2 enemies) but look FA is still there, if ca want fa dead they should do it themselves. |

Insane Damage
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Posted - 2004.10.25 19:43:00 -
[170]
This war has been between FA and CFS, lots of CA members are replying expressing their opinions but tbh who asked for CA's opinions, this isnt their war. They saying that cfs should attack fa otherwise they will never get their stations, look at what happened, cfs attacked fa and lost, so now they lost their chance at owning the stations, their region and alot of ships.... CA got what they wanted ( a war between its 2 enemies) but look FA is still there, if ca want fa dead they should do it themselves. |

S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.10.25 19:45:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Tail Gunner You never defended the stations or the areas that u claimed to be your...
Same could be said for CFS claiming Querious... no? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.10.25 19:45:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Tail Gunner You never defended the stations or the areas that u claimed to be your...
Same could be said for CFS claiming Querious... no? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

benwallace
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Posted - 2004.10.25 20:02:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Sabercat
Originally by: Moosehead Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.In turn should it not also be fair to ask SA to help set up this new goverment since they are also neighbours.
I think SA has more to worry about other than setting up a new alliance. FA takes CFS space today and guess who's next. SA space looks mighty nice. Better wake up Stainers and help your CFS neighbors out or you guys are next.  
AYe if I were fa I would even look at stain on the map they would wipe the floor with fa Sa =military based Fa= isk based --------------------------
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.10.25 20:02:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Sabercat
Originally by: Moosehead Just a small question why does FA feel it has the right to decide who should be allowed in an alliance which is not theres and if its the fact that they will be there neighbours.In turn should it not also be fair to ask SA to help set up this new goverment since they are also neighbours.
I think SA has more to worry about other than setting up a new alliance. FA takes CFS space today and guess who's next. SA space looks mighty nice. Better wake up Stainers and help your CFS neighbors out or you guys are next.  
AYe if I were fa I would even look at stain on the map they would wipe the floor with fa Sa =military based Fa= isk based --------------------------
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Colonel Mustard
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Posted - 2004.10.25 21:34:00 -
[175]
Edited by: Colonel Mustard on 25/10/2004 21:38:51
Originally by: benwallace
AYe if I were fa I would even look at stain on the map they would wipe the floor with fa Sa =military based Fa= isk based
And benwallace=smack based ?
Honestly I dont get whats wrong with having isk. I mean, CA collects isk and thats apparently ok. The group of people formerly known as UFS also enjoy mining for isk. Xetic likes isk. SA likes isk. I have trouble seeing the difference between FA, SA, CA, Xetic, PA, BoB, NORAD, The corps formerly known as UFS, TPS and ATUK mining lasers.
And FA having Tech II bpo, come on, several CA corps hold major tech II bpo dont they. This demonizing of FA is not just hypocritical , its laughable.
Its time for the corporations formerly known as UFS to wake up and smell the coffee, accept that you failed and accept FA:s generous terms. I was quite surprised that they werent harsher.
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Colonel Mustard
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Posted - 2004.10.25 21:34:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Colonel Mustard on 25/10/2004 21:38:51
Originally by: benwallace
AYe if I were fa I would even look at stain on the map they would wipe the floor with fa Sa =military based Fa= isk based
And benwallace=smack based ?
Honestly I dont get whats wrong with having isk. I mean, CA collects isk and thats apparently ok. The group of people formerly known as UFS also enjoy mining for isk. Xetic likes isk. SA likes isk. I have trouble seeing the difference between FA, SA, CA, Xetic, PA, BoB, NORAD, The corps formerly known as UFS, TPS and ATUK mining lasers.
And FA having Tech II bpo, come on, several CA corps hold major tech II bpo dont they. This demonizing of FA is not just hypocritical , its laughable.
Its time for the corporations formerly known as UFS to wake up and smell the coffee, accept that you failed and accept FA:s generous terms. I was quite surprised that they werent harsher.
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Seto
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:05:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Tipsy
Originally by: Gevronder
Yup, that's it. Actually it has more to do with us not wanting to kill people unless it's neccessary or in self-defense.
Contrary to the unsurprising cynical view of the under-bridge dwellers, we'd like to get those who don't want to fight or don't think it's right to fight out of Delve and Period Basis so they can have a chance at coming back later when things have quietened down.
FA welcomes and respects those who have made a stand and now choose a different path..
I guess thats why you ganked my indy on the way out of the area never to return. i had even changed my bio to reflect this I just want to get out of there and have no part in this war.
FA ganked my unarmed indy, i did not even shoot back, I couldn't. UNARMED MEANS UNARMED! your guys took out this ship that was leaving the area to seek a more peacefull live else where or tring to anyway. So I guess this is what FA deams as self-defense or neccessary.
Wars are never good. If you tell people one thing then do another then you are no better then CA except we know the type of corps we are dealing with in CA. Live up to your words of peace. As I see it that indy had everything I had about 150mil worth of items not much to you but everything to me. Do i expect compencasion from FA, It would be nice but, I will not hold my breath. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS OF PLEACE !! They mean as much to me as CA word of safe passage through their space. Our corp was not involved in this war until your fleet attacked the few remaining ships we had in the region as they were leaving.
If there is a peaceful solution to this mess I'm for it. But it should be far to all if you are true to your words. If not, then well, we will all know the metal FA is made from and their true agenda.
Sorry for the rant, just find a peaceful solution to this.
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Seto
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:05:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Tipsy
Originally by: Gevronder
Yup, that's it. Actually it has more to do with us not wanting to kill people unless it's neccessary or in self-defense.
Contrary to the unsurprising cynical view of the under-bridge dwellers, we'd like to get those who don't want to fight or don't think it's right to fight out of Delve and Period Basis so they can have a chance at coming back later when things have quietened down.
FA welcomes and respects those who have made a stand and now choose a different path..
I guess thats why you ganked my indy on the way out of the area never to return. i had even changed my bio to reflect this I just want to get out of there and have no part in this war.
FA ganked my unarmed indy, i did not even shoot back, I couldn't. UNARMED MEANS UNARMED! your guys took out this ship that was leaving the area to seek a more peacefull live else where or tring to anyway. So I guess this is what FA deams as self-defense or neccessary.
Wars are never good. If you tell people one thing then do another then you are no better then CA except we know the type of corps we are dealing with in CA. Live up to your words of peace. As I see it that indy had everything I had about 150mil worth of items not much to you but everything to me. Do i expect compencasion from FA, It would be nice but, I will not hold my breath. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS OF PLEACE !! They mean as much to me as CA word of safe passage through their space. Our corp was not involved in this war until your fleet attacked the few remaining ships we had in the region as they were leaving.
If there is a peaceful solution to this mess I'm for it. But it should be far to all if you are true to your words. If not, then well, we will all know the metal FA is made from and their true agenda.
Sorry for the rant, just find a peaceful solution to this.
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Aras
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:46:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Alkad Mzu
As a show of good faith, the Fountain Alliance hereby extend an offer of cessation of hostilities towards corporations currently a part of the alliance known as CFS. This offer is also extended to corporations currently a part of DSMA or StA.
Our conditions for peace are as follows:
* Your corporation will severe all ties to the UFS (CFS/DSMA/StA).
* Your corporation will temporarily leave former CFS space, and enter into diplomatic sessions with our representatives.
* Your corporation will either relocate permanently, or take an active and dedicated part in shaping a new and stable entity to govern former CFS space, depending on the outcome of the negotiations.
Our offer is valid for 48 hours. Those that choose to dismiss it will receive a permanent entry on our KOS list.
We reserve the right to disqualify a number of particularly agitating corporations from our offer.
How does this consitute diplomatic solution? Demanding isnt Diplomatic. its dictation. FA and there PR with alt's are rediculious. Blobs dont consitute PvP or good form. **I'm a flower, watch me blossom... and kill** |

Aras
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:46:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Alkad Mzu
As a show of good faith, the Fountain Alliance hereby extend an offer of cessation of hostilities towards corporations currently a part of the alliance known as CFS. This offer is also extended to corporations currently a part of DSMA or StA.
Our conditions for peace are as follows:
* Your corporation will severe all ties to the UFS (CFS/DSMA/StA).
* Your corporation will temporarily leave former CFS space, and enter into diplomatic sessions with our representatives.
* Your corporation will either relocate permanently, or take an active and dedicated part in shaping a new and stable entity to govern former CFS space, depending on the outcome of the negotiations.
Our offer is valid for 48 hours. Those that choose to dismiss it will receive a permanent entry on our KOS list.
We reserve the right to disqualify a number of particularly agitating corporations from our offer.
How does this consitute diplomatic solution? Demanding isnt Diplomatic. its dictation. FA and there PR with alt's are rediculious. Blobs dont consitute PvP or good form. **I'm a flower, watch me blossom... and kill** |

Amthor
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:47:00 -
[181]
*shakes head* Making them pay you for the hard work they accomplish, while they defend the space and stations. FA sends down a lone pilot to take the stations then leave. CFS pilot; "Thanks for the help." 
I'm behind CFS, because they are the underdogs. I respect that. It has nothing to do with them fighting a known enemy of CA. Um, in case you haven't noticed, we are at war with EVERYONE. Small consequence that it happens to be FA. We never forced CFS to do what they did, they did it on there own. In fact, I think we left them alone to see what they could muster up. They gathered together in a join effort to put an end to what they felt was wrong and stand up to the oppressive. I'm proud of them, I wish I could be apart of it, but most of the CFS still see us as ebil and refuse to allie themselves with us. 
Is the enemy of your enemy not your friend?
We have a handfull of corps out of CA right now and are putting a major hurtting on the opposing forces, I'd love to see us combine to focus on a single objective.
Amthor For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live, I will kill you, if I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of honor. |

Amthor
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:47:00 -
[182]
*shakes head* Making them pay you for the hard work they accomplish, while they defend the space and stations. FA sends down a lone pilot to take the stations then leave. CFS pilot; "Thanks for the help." 
I'm behind CFS, because they are the underdogs. I respect that. It has nothing to do with them fighting a known enemy of CA. Um, in case you haven't noticed, we are at war with EVERYONE. Small consequence that it happens to be FA. We never forced CFS to do what they did, they did it on there own. In fact, I think we left them alone to see what they could muster up. They gathered together in a join effort to put an end to what they felt was wrong and stand up to the oppressive. I'm proud of them, I wish I could be apart of it, but most of the CFS still see us as ebil and refuse to allie themselves with us. 
Is the enemy of your enemy not your friend?
We have a handfull of corps out of CA right now and are putting a major hurtting on the opposing forces, I'd love to see us combine to focus on a single objective.
Amthor For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live, I will kill you, if I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of honor. |

Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:56:00 -
[183]
If the Fountain Alliance were serious about peace, they would be negotiating instead of dictating.
You have to know that any "peace" under these terms will lead to months of geurilla warfare and harassment.
A more rational approach would be to sit down and hammer out an agreement that BOTH sides could live with.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |

Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2004.10.25 22:56:00 -
[184]
If the Fountain Alliance were serious about peace, they would be negotiating instead of dictating.
You have to know that any "peace" under these terms will lead to months of geurilla warfare and harassment.
A more rational approach would be to sit down and hammer out an agreement that BOTH sides could live with.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
-Freidrich Nietzche |

Kalathmir
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Posted - 2004.10.26 00:55:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash This strikes me as an attempt to bring a swift and favourable end to the conflict.
FA are known for being greedy miners, and every day spent in a combat setup is a day of mining arkanor lost.
Soon the FA troops will look longingly at their brethren who stayed behind in fountain. They will hear the call of their mining lasers and feel the pain of lost isk bypassing their fat wallets.
In truh FA cannot sustain a fleet, they are to damn greedy and to damn lazy, FA could not even hold D4KU against a band of 40 Freedom fighters, how do they expect to hold 3 regions against an alliance.
They cannot and if UFS holds strong they will not. LMM have been picking off replacement battleships before they even reach fountain. We have seen the fighting spirit of the UFS warriors that have entered Fountain from Aridia and have assisted and aided them whenever and wereever possible.
The UFS spirit is strong because they fight for a just cause. The FA spirit is weak and boyed up by a few victorious nights in their blobs. Corps with no interest in UFS space are already showing dessent and wanting to end the war now with victory. don't give it them. Fountain forces will disprese and they will be less threat than the raids from CA.
Vary your tactics UFS hide when you are few, strike when you are many. Use guerilla warfare against the blobs. hit the pilots leaving the blobs to return to fountain, hit them hard, hit them fast then melt away until the blob gets bored.
A-****ing-men to that. CFS didn't really expect FA to put up much of a fight. And after that first weekend it sparked in my mind the same situation where President Bush declared victory in Iraq afte like a month of being there. If we want to actually fight this war then we are going to have to stay together instead of going back to what I GURANTEE will be worse than the conditions we fought to break free from, with those BIG *****s breathing down our necks everytime we refine something, but letting us defend ourselves when it comes to anything else. God forbid there's not enough people online for them to blob the enemy... |

Kalathmir
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Posted - 2004.10.26 00:55:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash This strikes me as an attempt to bring a swift and favourable end to the conflict.
FA are known for being greedy miners, and every day spent in a combat setup is a day of mining arkanor lost.
Soon the FA troops will look longingly at their brethren who stayed behind in fountain. They will hear the call of their mining lasers and feel the pain of lost isk bypassing their fat wallets.
In truh FA cannot sustain a fleet, they are to damn greedy and to damn lazy, FA could not even hold D4KU against a band of 40 Freedom fighters, how do they expect to hold 3 regions against an alliance.
They cannot and if UFS holds strong they will not. LMM have been picking off replacement battleships before they even reach fountain. We have seen the fighting spirit of the UFS warriors that have entered Fountain from Aridia and have assisted and aided them whenever and wereever possible.
The UFS spirit is strong because they fight for a just cause. The FA spirit is weak and boyed up by a few victorious nights in their blobs. Corps with no interest in UFS space are already showing dessent and wanting to end the war now with victory. don't give it them. Fountain forces will disprese and they will be less threat than the raids from CA.
Vary your tactics UFS hide when you are few, strike when you are many. Use guerilla warfare against the blobs. hit the pilots leaving the blobs to return to fountain, hit them hard, hit them fast then melt away until the blob gets bored.
A-****ing-men to that. CFS didn't really expect FA to put up much of a fight. And after that first weekend it sparked in my mind the same situation where President Bush declared victory in Iraq afte like a month of being there. If we want to actually fight this war then we are going to have to stay together instead of going back to what I GURANTEE will be worse than the conditions we fought to break free from, with those BIG *****s breathing down our necks everytime we refine something, but letting us defend ourselves when it comes to anything else. God forbid there's not enough people online for them to blob the enemy... |

Kahlee
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Posted - 2004.10.26 02:10:00 -
[187]
Originally by: KIAPieman if thats the case KILL JAR JAR BINKS, HES IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL
If thats the price for ridding the universe of those damn freaks (Gungan is the race?), then you can call me Darth Vader himself
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Omniwar:You know what people do in online games to other people they cant win? Flame. |

Kahlee
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Posted - 2004.10.26 02:10:00 -
[188]
Originally by: KIAPieman if thats the case KILL JAR JAR BINKS, HES IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL
If thats the price for ridding the universe of those damn freaks (Gungan is the race?), then you can call me Darth Vader himself
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Omniwar:You know what people do in online games to other people they cant win? Flame. |

Tail Gunner
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:25:00 -
[189]
*pulls out history book and reads section on vietnam
this proposal of the Fountain Alliance may seem to have been a good idea at the time but if they are telling us to surrender with an ultimatum there is probably a good reason behind it. Opposition within the Fountain Alliace to a prolonged fight? Suprise that UFS hasnt given up yet despite setbacks? Division between allies most victors end up losing in the long run due to clashes and battles about the spoils. Or maybe they are getting bored? this could be a grasp for the last straw on the stack of which there were many.
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Tail Gunner
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:25:00 -
[190]
*pulls out history book and reads section on vietnam
this proposal of the Fountain Alliance may seem to have been a good idea at the time but if they are telling us to surrender with an ultimatum there is probably a good reason behind it. Opposition within the Fountain Alliace to a prolonged fight? Suprise that UFS hasnt given up yet despite setbacks? Division between allies most victors end up losing in the long run due to clashes and battles about the spoils. Or maybe they are getting bored? this could be a grasp for the last straw on the stack of which there were many.
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Kickass
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:27:00 -
[191]
Sounds like FA are getting tired of fighting, to propose peace after 1 or 2 weeks of hostilities?
CA/SA have been fighting for a year now, dont see any peace offerings.
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Kickass
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:27:00 -
[192]
Sounds like FA are getting tired of fighting, to propose peace after 1 or 2 weeks of hostilities?
CA/SA have been fighting for a year now, dont see any peace offerings.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:31:00 -
[193]
One can find it extremely amusing how certain CA pilots have been pleading CFS and other related alliances in the 3 disputed regions to take stations in free space and how they would assist (help) doing so.
All that can be seen is a bunch of words written in jealousy on the screen.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:31:00 -
[194]
One can find it extremely amusing how certain CA pilots have been pleading CFS and other related alliances in the 3 disputed regions to take stations in free space and how they would assist (help) doing so.
All that can be seen is a bunch of words written in jealousy on the screen.
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:52:00 -
[195]
Quote: UFS hasnt given up yet despite setbacks?
Really?
I'm very confused now. UFS is still fighting?
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2004.10.26 04:52:00 -
[196]
Quote: UFS hasnt given up yet despite setbacks?
Really?
I'm very confused now. UFS is still fighting?
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.10.26 06:55:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Kickass Sounds like FA are getting tired of fighting, to propose peace after 1 or 2 weeks of hostilities?
CA/SA have been fighting for a year now, dont see any peace offerings.
CA and SA could easily NAP if they wanted to.. they respect each other. And many of their pilots have friends in other alliance. The way i see it... CA vs SA is not war for territory, control or something similar.. it's a war, because SA and CA simply have fun fighting eachother.
It is obvious that FA wants to end this as soon as possible, because they don't want to have many fronts opened at same time... and monthly Fountain raid by CA is a bit overdue already:>
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.10.26 06:55:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Kickass Sounds like FA are getting tired of fighting, to propose peace after 1 or 2 weeks of hostilities?
CA/SA have been fighting for a year now, dont see any peace offerings.
CA and SA could easily NAP if they wanted to.. they respect each other. And many of their pilots have friends in other alliance. The way i see it... CA vs SA is not war for territory, control or something similar.. it's a war, because SA and CA simply have fun fighting eachother.
It is obvious that FA wants to end this as soon as possible, because they don't want to have many fronts opened at same time... and monthly Fountain raid by CA is a bit overdue already:>
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.10.26 07:29:00 -
[199]
Quote: CA and SA could easily NAP if they wanted to.. they respect each other. And many of their pilots have friends in other alliance. The way i see it... CA vs SA is not war for territory, control or something similar.. it's a war, because SA and CA simply have fun fighting eachother.
hehe..its a theme I keep hearing thats bordering on desperation.
Trust is your problem.
Alliances have learned that a NAP with the current batch of megalomaniacs running curse is utterly worthless in the long term.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.10.26 07:29:00 -
[200]
Quote: CA and SA could easily NAP if they wanted to.. they respect each other. And many of their pilots have friends in other alliance. The way i see it... CA vs SA is not war for territory, control or something similar.. it's a war, because SA and CA simply have fun fighting eachother.
hehe..its a theme I keep hearing thats bordering on desperation.
Trust is your problem.
Alliances have learned that a NAP with the current batch of megalomaniacs running curse is utterly worthless in the long term.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.10.26 08:06:00 -
[201]
OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.10.26 08:06:00 -
[202]
OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.10.26 11:35:00 -
[203]
thread man, thread.
and thought ;)
you cant stop anyone from voicing opinions on forums, thats what forums are for ;)
there are many complications in this game...too many peace treaties tbh, this game is a wargame, get some more war 
i drifted off into my own little world there
My vids and random stuff |

MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.10.26 11:35:00 -
[204]
thread man, thread.
and thought ;)
you cant stop anyone from voicing opinions on forums, thats what forums are for ;)
there are many complications in this game...too many peace treaties tbh, this game is a wargame, get some more war 
i drifted off into my own little world there
My vids and random stuff |

Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:01:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Shamed Con
All that can be seen is a bunch of words written in jealousy on the screen.
Shamed, did you choose that name because of FA's behaviour?
Still, I like your poetic turn of phrase.
Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |

Severe McCald
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shamed Con
All that can be seen is a bunch of words written in jealousy on the screen.
Shamed, did you choose that name because of FA's behaviour?
Still, I like your poetic turn of phrase.
Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |

Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:22:00 -
[207]
Originally by: NoNameNewbie OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
It is my belief that CA and FA have always been enemies so CA jumping on this thread is inevitable.
On the whole subject of FA offering CFS a truce under a gun of peace; the whole think su*ks bigtime. History is rife with so called superior forces "annexing" their neighbours and ultimately being buttf***ed: The English in the Crusades and The Empire, The Romans, Sa**am Hussain, Hit**r and his band of cross dressing perves, etc. You might want to emulate how these despots and 'mighty' empires were brought to their knees if you can.
To those CFS who agree to the "truce" and are forced to turn on their more outspoken ex-allience corps think of this: When POSs in the shape of mobile refineries come into the game. Don't think that FA won't send spies to any mining blobs in Querious that are not theirs, see your refinery as a break of some f*ggy treaty rules and blow it and you all away as they aren't getting their cut. This will happen time and time again.
FA could do this the RIGHT way but they won't, by letting the CFS corps into FA and/or remove their tax rates etc. and work with CFS. Instead they will have you slave for them making their empire stronger with each batch of ark, bist, crok, etc. you refine.
I do not like CA in any way, shape or form and Zelota is proof that they probably don't own a single dictionary between them but if they do go into Querius and kick the cr*p out of FA for whatever reason; I will tip my hat and raise a glass to them one Friday down the pub.
Finally, this isn't my fight and I am mearly stating my point of view (this is not necessarily the view of my corpmates either). CFS or whatever they evolve into, whether they fight back or stare in wonder at all those ships they are building for FA with their toil, will do as they wish. It's all about how they would like to enjoy their gaming experience and spend their $15 per month.
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:22:00 -
[208]
Originally by: NoNameNewbie OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
It is my belief that CA and FA have always been enemies so CA jumping on this thread is inevitable.
On the whole subject of FA offering CFS a truce under a gun of peace; the whole think su*ks bigtime. History is rife with so called superior forces "annexing" their neighbours and ultimately being buttf***ed: The English in the Crusades and The Empire, The Romans, Sa**am Hussain, Hit**r and his band of cross dressing perves, etc. You might want to emulate how these despots and 'mighty' empires were brought to their knees if you can.
To those CFS who agree to the "truce" and are forced to turn on their more outspoken ex-allience corps think of this: When POSs in the shape of mobile refineries come into the game. Don't think that FA won't send spies to any mining blobs in Querious that are not theirs, see your refinery as a break of some f*ggy treaty rules and blow it and you all away as they aren't getting their cut. This will happen time and time again.
FA could do this the RIGHT way but they won't, by letting the CFS corps into FA and/or remove their tax rates etc. and work with CFS. Instead they will have you slave for them making their empire stronger with each batch of ark, bist, crok, etc. you refine.
I do not like CA in any way, shape or form and Zelota is proof that they probably don't own a single dictionary between them but if they do go into Querius and kick the cr*p out of FA for whatever reason; I will tip my hat and raise a glass to them one Friday down the pub.
Finally, this isn't my fight and I am mearly stating my point of view (this is not necessarily the view of my corpmates either). CFS or whatever they evolve into, whether they fight back or stare in wonder at all those ships they are building for FA with their toil, will do as they wish. It's all about how they would like to enjoy their gaming experience and spend their $15 per month.
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:29:00 -
[209]
Keep it on topic, flame and troll free please.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:29:00 -
[210]
Keep it on topic, flame and troll free please.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Aras
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:32:00 -
[211]
Originally by: NoNameNewbie OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
YOU can STFU. Im not CA. FA need to pull there head out of here a****** and get it stright. There offer is nothing but demanding and a ploy. also its a shame to see FA paying off corps to not fight/leave. FA need to have realistical negotigations not dictating ones for anyone to listen to them. I know my corp doesnt see these as actall negec. more like demands.
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Aras
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:32:00 -
[212]
Originally by: NoNameNewbie OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
YOU can STFU. Im not CA. FA need to pull there head out of here a****** and get it stright. There offer is nothing but demanding and a ploy. also its a shame to see FA paying off corps to not fight/leave. FA need to have realistical negotigations not dictating ones for anyone to listen to them. I know my corp doesnt see these as actall negec. more like demands.
**I'm a flower, watch me blossom... and kill** |

DeGrand
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:36:00 -
[213]
Edited by: DeGrand on 26/10/2004 12:46:59 rofl, who`s negotiating? I see lots of demands too..and were in a position to do so.Its an actuall offer to those corps that want to get back to what they were doing before all this mess happened...which is prosper.
And whos paying corps? they backout of their own free will..theyve prolly got better things to do than safespot all day.
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DeGrand
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:36:00 -
[214]
Edited by: DeGrand on 26/10/2004 12:46:59 rofl, who`s negotiating? I see lots of demands too..and were in a position to do so.Its an actuall offer to those corps that want to get back to what they were doing before all this mess happened...which is prosper.
And whos paying corps? they backout of their own free will..theyve prolly got better things to do than safespot all day.
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alar1c
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:44:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Seto I guess thats why you ganked my indy on the way out of the area never to return. i had even changed my bio to reflect this I just want to get out of there and have no part in this war.
FA ganked my unarmed indy, i did not even shoot back, I couldn't. UNARMED MEANS UNARMED! your guys took out this ship that was leaving the area to seek a more peacefull live else where or tring to anyway. So I guess this is what FA deams as self-defense or neccessary.
Wars are never good. If you tell people one thing then do another then you are no better then CA except we know the type of corps we are dealing with in CA. Live up to your words of peace. As I see it that indy had everything I had about 150mil worth of items not much to you but everything to me. Do i expect compencasion from FA, It would be nice but, I will not hold my breath. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS OF PLEACE !! They mean as much to me as CA word of safe passage through their space. Our corp was not involved in this war until your fleet attacked the few remaining ships we had in the region as they were leaving.
If there is a peaceful solution to this mess I'm for it. But it should be far to all if you are true to your words. If not, then well, we will all know the metal FA is made from and their true agenda.
Sorry for the rant, just find a peaceful solution to this.
First off what corp are you in? (I'm not in game to check) Did you inform FA that you were neutral and withdrawing? Or had some of your warriors attacked and gotten set for enemy status (in which case you were a far target)
QT informed us that they were withdrawing. I KNOW that we allowed a large number of QTer's into and out of 5-6 last night to get their equipment out. Not one was hit by the guard force.
We keep those agreements that are made, and That we are informed about.
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alar1c
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:44:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Seto I guess thats why you ganked my indy on the way out of the area never to return. i had even changed my bio to reflect this I just want to get out of there and have no part in this war.
FA ganked my unarmed indy, i did not even shoot back, I couldn't. UNARMED MEANS UNARMED! your guys took out this ship that was leaving the area to seek a more peacefull live else where or tring to anyway. So I guess this is what FA deams as self-defense or neccessary.
Wars are never good. If you tell people one thing then do another then you are no better then CA except we know the type of corps we are dealing with in CA. Live up to your words of peace. As I see it that indy had everything I had about 150mil worth of items not much to you but everything to me. Do i expect compencasion from FA, It would be nice but, I will not hold my breath. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS OF PLEACE !! They mean as much to me as CA word of safe passage through their space. Our corp was not involved in this war until your fleet attacked the few remaining ships we had in the region as they were leaving.
If there is a peaceful solution to this mess I'm for it. But it should be far to all if you are true to your words. If not, then well, we will all know the metal FA is made from and their true agenda.
Sorry for the rant, just find a peaceful solution to this.
First off what corp are you in? (I'm not in game to check) Did you inform FA that you were neutral and withdrawing? Or had some of your warriors attacked and gotten set for enemy status (in which case you were a far target)
QT informed us that they were withdrawing. I KNOW that we allowed a large number of QTer's into and out of 5-6 last night to get their equipment out. Not one was hit by the guard force.
We keep those agreements that are made, and That we are informed about.
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:53:00 -
[217]
Edited by: Lexus666 on 26/10/2004 12:57:22
Originally by: DeGrand Edited by: DeGrand on 26/10/2004 12:45:58 Edited by: DeGrand on 26/10/2004 12:41:17 rofl, who`s negotiating? I see demands too..and were in a position to do so.I ts an offer to those corps that want to get back to what they were doing before all this mess happened...which is prosper.
And whos paying corps? they backout of their own free will..theyve prolly got better things to do than safespot all day.
Hmm, I have no idea who you are but you sound like you're on the side of FA (if not actually in FA, I can never keep up - Although looking at the spelling you could be CA ).
Coming onto the forums and posturing how l337 you are is all very well if there are 30 of you terrorising alliances like we used to do but doing it when you are backed up by 20 billion people in your aliance against CFS who, to my knowledge, are fairly small and just want their own space makes you look like a n00byf**kwitsmacktard!
So, Get a dictionary, a clue and a cookie in that order, turn off your computer and throw it from a great height!
PS. KTHXKOFF 
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.26 12:53:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Lexus666 on 26/10/2004 12:57:22
Originally by: DeGrand Edited by: DeGrand on 26/10/2004 12:45:58 Edited by: DeGrand on 26/10/2004 12:41:17 rofl, who`s negotiating? I see demands too..and were in a position to do so.I ts an offer to those corps that want to get back to what they were doing before all this mess happened...which is prosper.
And whos paying corps? they backout of their own free will..theyve prolly got better things to do than safespot all day.
Hmm, I have no idea who you are but you sound like you're on the side of FA (if not actually in FA, I can never keep up - Although looking at the spelling you could be CA ).
Coming onto the forums and posturing how l337 you are is all very well if there are 30 of you terrorising alliances like we used to do but doing it when you are backed up by 20 billion people in your aliance against CFS who, to my knowledge, are fairly small and just want their own space makes you look like a n00byf**kwitsmacktard!
So, Get a dictionary, a clue and a cookie in that order, turn off your computer and throw it from a great height!
PS. KTHXKOFF 
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DeGrand
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Posted - 2004.10.26 14:19:00 -
[219]
I have no idea who you are either, whats your point? And I can type english properly if I want to actually.
Talk about being `leet`, beating your chest while saying how great your corp was? I have yet to see m0o (yes, I do know m0o from hearsay) do something big on their own in this game. Everything big they did happened before I actually started playing EVE 9 months ago.
I`m proud that we managed to pull this off so quick and decisive. Seeing we in FA are all carebear miners and tech 2-bpo-junkies, I think we did great. And don`t start about our huge blobs, UFS blobbed as good as we did the first few days.
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DeGrand
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Posted - 2004.10.26 14:19:00 -
[220]
I have no idea who you are either, whats your point? And I can type english properly if I want to actually.
Talk about being `leet`, beating your chest while saying how great your corp was? I have yet to see m0o (yes, I do know m0o from hearsay) do something big on their own in this game. Everything big they did happened before I actually started playing EVE 9 months ago.
I`m proud that we managed to pull this off so quick and decisive. Seeing we in FA are all carebear miners and tech 2-bpo-junkies, I think we did great. And don`t start about our huge blobs, UFS blobbed as good as we did the first few days.
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.10.26 15:47:00 -
[221]
I find this post to be arrogant and distasteful.
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.10.26 15:47:00 -
[222]
I find this post to be arrogant and distasteful.
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Molaorim Phenaki
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Posted - 2004.10.26 17:14:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Alexandra Belani I find this post to be arrogant and distasteful.
what post? the 1st post or the one prior to yours? <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? |

Molaorim Phenaki
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Posted - 2004.10.26 17:14:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Alexandra Belani I find this post to be arrogant and distasteful.
what post? the 1st post or the one prior to yours? <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.10.26 17:18:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
we owned b4 dual mwding ravens. they nerfed our blackbirds so we adapted, they nerfed our ruptures so we adapted, they will nerf our ravens and we will adapt. It's called playing the game and using iniative.
To have a go at a tactic saying it's lame because u cannot hit us is a joke. It's like saying the turks were lame for using gunpowder against the Byznites, but yea go ahead. Reverend Necrona |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.10.26 17:18:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: DJTheBaron even fa are findding out pvp is the best part of eve
wonder if it'll continue when safespots aremt safe anymore...
How will CA cope without dual mwd?
we owned b4 dual mwding ravens. they nerfed our blackbirds so we adapted, they nerfed our ruptures so we adapted, they will nerf our ravens and we will adapt. It's called playing the game and using iniative.
To have a go at a tactic saying it's lame because u cannot hit us is a joke. It's like saying the turks were lame for using gunpowder against the Byznites, but yea go ahead. Reverend Necrona |

Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.26 19:03:00 -
[227]
Originally by: DeGrand I have no idea who you are either, whats your point? And I can type english properly if I want to actually.
Talk about being `leet`, beating your chest while saying how great your corp was? I have yet to see m0o (yes, I do know m0o from hearsay) do something big on their own in this game. Everything big they did happened before I actually started playing EVE 9 months ago.
I`m proud that we managed to pull this off so quick and decisive. Seeing we in FA are all carebear miners and tech 2-bpo-junkies, I think we did great. And don`t start about our huge blobs, UFS blobbed as good as we did the first few days.
Haha, more people will know of me than will ever know of you even if it's not that many.
You've been playing for 9 months and never seen m0o. Not surprised since you've probably not even left YZ-LQL.
Like I said, get a clue and go back to being a nobody!
KTHXDBLKOFF!
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.10.26 19:03:00 -
[228]
Originally by: DeGrand I have no idea who you are either, whats your point? And I can type english properly if I want to actually.
Talk about being `leet`, beating your chest while saying how great your corp was? I have yet to see m0o (yes, I do know m0o from hearsay) do something big on their own in this game. Everything big they did happened before I actually started playing EVE 9 months ago.
I`m proud that we managed to pull this off so quick and decisive. Seeing we in FA are all carebear miners and tech 2-bpo-junkies, I think we did great. And don`t start about our huge blobs, UFS blobbed as good as we did the first few days.
Haha, more people will know of me than will ever know of you even if it's not that many.
You've been playing for 9 months and never seen m0o. Not surprised since you've probably not even left YZ-LQL.
Like I said, get a clue and go back to being a nobody!
KTHXDBLKOFF!
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.10.26 22:05:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Molaorim Phenaki
Originally by: Alexandra Belani I find this post to be arrogant and distasteful.
what post? the 1st post or the one prior to yours?
the original one....sorry for not clarifying
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.10.26 22:05:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Molaorim Phenaki
Originally by: Alexandra Belani I find this post to be arrogant and distasteful.
what post? the 1st post or the one prior to yours?
the original one....sorry for not clarifying
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.10.26 23:10:00 -
[231]
Was never a good thing to fight wars on 2 fronts Mee thinks we will see more FA blobs inn a other region soon -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.10.26 23:10:00 -
[232]
Was never a good thing to fight wars on 2 fronts Mee thinks we will see more FA blobs inn a other region soon -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.10.26 23:20:00 -
[233]
How didnt I see this before. It all makes sense now, thank you CA..
Because the FA is attacking the UFS for backstabbing them, and trying to take their stations, the logical next step is that they will invade and attack their longtime allies in Stain, simply for the heck of blobbing. I mean geez, put 1 and 1 together, its all there!! It was infront of my eyes the entire time and I didnt even realize it till the 16 CA poster mentioned it.
I feel so foolish now. Thank you CA (and TPS) Propaganda Division(s), for these great insights. __________________________________________
Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |

Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.10.26 23:20:00 -
[234]
How didnt I see this before. It all makes sense now, thank you CA..
Because the FA is attacking the UFS for backstabbing them, and trying to take their stations, the logical next step is that they will invade and attack their longtime allies in Stain, simply for the heck of blobbing. I mean geez, put 1 and 1 together, its all there!! It was infront of my eyes the entire time and I didnt even realize it till the 16 CA poster mentioned it.
I feel so foolish now. Thank you CA (and TPS) Propaganda Division(s), for these great insights. __________________________________________
Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |

Guddah
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Posted - 2004.11.05 19:15:00 -
[235]
The numerous UFS corps that were involved in this war from the start have dwindled down to an elite few, that refuse to let go of the hatred they have for the way they allowed FA to treat them. The blob wars are pretty much over, and all we see now is former UFS combat pilots acting as terrorists... or pirates. Some have even left their UFS corps to dock as a npc corp to refit ships and evacuate their friends' gear (gj Gorat).
Seems to me, all we have now is more piracy in the southern regions, from CA and UFS. Let's keep it going forever imo, more yellow squares = more fun.
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Guddah
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Posted - 2004.11.05 19:15:00 -
[236]
The numerous UFS corps that were involved in this war from the start have dwindled down to an elite few, that refuse to let go of the hatred they have for the way they allowed FA to treat them. The blob wars are pretty much over, and all we see now is former UFS combat pilots acting as terrorists... or pirates. Some have even left their UFS corps to dock as a npc corp to refit ships and evacuate their friends' gear (gj Gorat).
Seems to me, all we have now is more piracy in the southern regions, from CA and UFS. Let's keep it going forever imo, more yellow squares = more fun.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2004.11.05 19:20:00 -
[237]
Originally by: NoNameNewbie OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
I always lol when I see players thinking that the latest nerf will hurt CA. The game will change, but you'll still suck so the end result will be the same.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2004.11.05 19:20:00 -
[238]
Originally by: NoNameNewbie OMG  
The CA Forum Warriors found this threat and started Hijacking it ...
Can someone fight them here ? NO because they run away in their dual mwd ravens ... (/me waves at Shiva)
Back to Topic now ...
CA why are u complaining in this threat ? i though some CA guys wanted to help the UFS forces to fight FA. I've never seen a single CA since the start of this war. Because of that, do us a favor and leave this threat. This is not a CA war so STFU
I always lol when I see players thinking that the latest nerf will hurt CA. The game will change, but you'll still suck so the end result will be the same.
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.05 20:08:00 -
[239]
This thread had run its course, its old now, dont bump old threads please.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.05 20:08:00 -
[240]
This thread had run its course, its old now, dont bump old threads please.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |
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