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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2010.11.18 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana One way is to first calculate a suitable average on how long it took to go from 50k to 800k with the original skill system. Then any char born after that feature was introduced should have that calculated time added to the character age.
As I recall, all old characters started with at least 800k skill points. The various, races, classes, schools etc. added skills and skill levels until you went over 800k points. There were various starting options that could get you significantly higher skill points if you managed to get a level 5 skill. But I'm pretty sure you started with at least 800k. The main differences with the new system is you get to pick which skills you learn first and there is no way to "game" the system to get much more than 800k free skill points.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.18 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Mashie Saldana One way is to first calculate a suitable average on how long it took to go from 50k to 800k with the original skill system. Then any char born after that feature was introduced should have that calculated time added to the character age.
As I recall, all old characters started with at least 800k skill points.
Nope.
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Kromartie
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Posted - 2010.11.19 20:44:00 -
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Chribba, is it possible to show how many SP the character will have in total once the current skill in training is complete?
Thanks for a great site!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.19 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kromartie Chribba, is it possible to show how many SP the character will have in total once the current skill in training is complete?
Thanks for a great site!
I'll add that to the todo-list, else it should be fairly easy to calculate yourself if you're in a hurry (as the next level SP is displayed).
/c
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Fergus Runkle
Minmatar Truth and Reconciliation Council
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Posted - 2010.11.22 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fergus Runkle Hmm, why is it that I cannot seem to figure out how to have an anonymous entry in the online time / logon stats lists ?
I'm anonymous in all the others, and I can see some people have managed it, I just can't seem to find the combination of what to hide ?
Hmm anyone? Chribba?
Thx
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.22 19:17:00 -
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The only way to hide it is - either hide it in the settings - or password protect your entire sheet.
/c
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.11.22 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 22/11/2010 22:29:22 I think eve boards site just went nuts,as i just completed carrier 5 a few hours ago,and i'm placed in 1st place in several key areas in overal rank,including highest SP in lvl 5 skills and highest sp in lvl 4 skills,wich totals about 240 million SP....LMAO.
I'm even first in spaceship comand skills at 91 million SP...
I'm not that high in any of those categories....Might only happen in a few years from now.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.11.22 22:37:00 -
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It's back to where it should be now....
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:30:00 -
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umm OK to the 17 above me .. how do I make my full ranks go up ..... I've been training skills to level 3 now for a bit .. but I just seem to hover at the same place, or even drop a bit...
there must be something I can do ...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.23 19:32:00 -
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... nude pics of your gf...
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.24 09:50:00 -
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;-p OK back to the long haul ;-p ...
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Fergus Runkle
Minmatar Truth and Reconciliation Council
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Posted - 2010.11.24 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba The only way to hide it is - either hide it in the settings - or password protect your entire sheet.
/c
Doesn't work for me, if I hide Logon Stats, then I don't appear in the ranking for either total time or average time. If I password the sheet (my normal procedure) then I show up as anonymous in everything except the logon time stats, there my name shows up. Seems very odd, then everyone tells me I'm a bit special.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.24 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Chribba on 24/11/2010 19:10:55 You amongst the top 3? If so - then no you cannot hide yourself as top 3 will always show regardless of protected sheet or not.
Else feel free to drop me a mail in-game with the pilot in question and I'll do some checking on why you don't get hidden.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.25 12:22:00 -
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will you be ready for the learning removals --
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Amateratsu
Caldari The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2010.11.25 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS will you be ready for the learning removals
This will have an interesting impact on the global rankings, some will rise, others will drop á
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.25 20:06:00 -
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I'll keep it like it is today, so everyone registered before December 14th and having the skills trained - will always be uber compared to pilots registering after.
Oh wait it's not April 1st, but it would have been a good one...
But, back to the skills, I aim to be ready sooner than that - as pretty much when it does change it will be a big can of worms for all things using learning (brrr @ evemon).
So, I will be removing learning skills from [eb] in advance of the changes, hopefully there will be less errors at the time of the implementation that way.
Either way, the changes are somewhat annoying overall when it comes to the code and calculations being made with learning skills in mind.
Hopefully I will be ready to roll out this sooner than later, just need to down-prio life a bit to be able to do it.
/c
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:10:00 -
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I would love it if there was a way to have the old learning skills "frozen" on eveboard just as a kind of flag or award of some kind (not as valid regular skills), as a record of history. I always felt like my (near) perfect learning skills were a minor point of pride. CCP is unlikely to do anything in that regards given the constraints they're working with, and I can think of no better place to have an "official" record than eveboard
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.26 12:19:00 -
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I will see what suitable options there are to save the current learning skills as a "show-factor".
/c
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.26 14:57:00 -
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Another side effect of the learning skill fix is that we no longer need any decimal points for representing them. Just nice even integers from now on.
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Kromartie
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Posted - 2010.12.02 22:17:00 -
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I was looking at the blueprints and ships section on the character sheets, would it be possible to have a version of this for modules?
filter by: all modules / modules I can use / modules I cannot use etc.
Thanks
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.12.03 14:28:00 -
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The module section is on the todo list, the "problem" with the modules are that there is so many of them compared to the ships - thus the resources needed to generate module info is a lot more, that's why it is not implemented yet.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2010.12.03 20:10:00 -
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Still would like a "show missing skills" option.
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Ravenal
The Fated E.Y
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS umm OK to the 17 above me .. how do I make my full ranks go up ..... I've been training skills to level 3 now for a bit .. but I just seem to hover at the same place, or even drop a bit...
there must be something I can do ...
o7 ... train: drones, electronics, engineering, industry, missiles, navigation, pi, social and subsystems... all categories are below average for you ;)
But all joke aside ... I've also been wondering about that fluctuation stuff (having about the same average number of points as you). I guess pilots with more points fluctuate even more.
It's got something to do with sorting by global rank right? You've gotta generate all the ranks for all the categories ... then reorder based on global rank which calculates to a new global rank that again has impact on the reordering?
Would it be easier to give ties equal points (the average of the places they occupy)? So players tied at 1-10 will have an average of 5.5 points in that category...? That means less shuffling around in the global rank which I guess is kinda costly to rewrite all the time. .
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Amateratsu
Caldari The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2010.12.03 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenal
Originally by: RaTTuS umm OK to the 17 above me .. how do I make my full ranks go up ..... I've been training skills to level 3 now for a bit .. but I just seem to hover at the same place, or even drop a bit...
there must be something I can do ...
o7 ... train: drones, electronics, engineering, industry, missiles, navigation, pi, social and subsystems... all categories are below average for you ;)
But all joke aside ... I've also been wondering about that fluctuation stuff (having about the same average number of points as you). I guess pilots with more points fluctuate even more.
It's got something to do with sorting by global rank right? You've gotta generate all the ranks for all the categories ... then reorder based on global rank which calculates to a new global rank that again has impact on the reordering?
Would it be easier to give ties equal points (the average of the places they occupy)? So players tied at 1-10 will have an average of 5.5 points in that category...? That means less shuffling around in the global rank which I guess is kinda costly to rewrite all the time.
Its not so much the sorting that causes the flutuations, but new pilots joining EB, Old Pilots leaving or not renewing their subs ect.
Your global score is basicly the sum total of your scores in each of the ranked catagorys / the number of catagorys that count towards the global rank.
When new pilots join EB who rank better in 1 or more catagorys than you do, they will push you down the ranks for that catagory which in turn effects your global rank.
If you then put training into say Drones for example, you will move up that catagory overtaking other pilots who are training something else and that will improve your global score.
So as you can see, fluctuations are the nature of EB, changing the way the ranks are sorted for pilots who have maxed out a catagory will not stop the fluctuations. á
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Ravenal
The Fated E.Y
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Posted - 2010.12.04 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Amateratsu
Its not so much the sorting that causes the flutuations, but new pilots joining EB, Old Pilots leaving or not renewing their subs ect.
Your global score is basicly the sum total of your scores in each of the ranked catagorys / the number of catagorys that count towards the global rank.
When new pilots join EB who rank better in 1 or more catagorys than you do, they will push you down the ranks for that catagory which in turn effects your global rank.
If you then put training into say Drones for example, you will move up that catagory overtaking other pilots who are training something else and that will improve your global score.
So as you can see, fluctuations are the nature of EB, changing the way the ranks are sorted for pilots who have maxed out a catagory will not stop the fluctuations.
Yes, that's the basics of it... fluctuations among those ranked highest shouldn't happen that often though. Sure there are some categories that those high ranked people don't have trained so good compared to others but what RaTTuS was talking about (I think) and I too was mainly the fluctuations in points ... going up and down in points over a short period of time while not training a category that chances internal ranking.
Only from memory but while training spaceship command (where I'm ranked fairly highly and thus will only move a rank or two at most given a day of training, if that much) my points have jumped up and down about a hundred points. My only guess for that was some ordering being redone because of the global ranking as secondary ordering.
Possibly quite a few characters joined in and bumped my score up and down and then quit or something ... but I find that unlikely. Joining yes, quitting no. So my average score should have dropped and stayed that way. Unfortunately I don't have any screenshots of this so I'm just going to have to take my memory for it.
anyway, thought RaTTuS was talking about those fluctuations. .
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Amateratsu
Caldari The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2010.12.04 10:13:00 -
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Lets use just 2 of the 30 catagorys that count towards the global rank to make things simpler.
Lets say in drones you have 4m sp and are ranked at position 1500 and in Navigation you only have 1m sp ranking you at position 6000 for example, this will give you a global score of 1500 + 6000 / 2 = a global score of 3750.
Currently there are over 24,000 players registered on EB, lets say 700 of those players are training Drones, they overtake your 4m sp pushing your rank in drones down 700 pts Resulting in your global score increasing to 2200 + 6000 / 2 = 4100
At the same time you put some training into Navigation raising your sp to 3m and moving your rank upto position 4000.
Your scores now become 2200 + 4000 / 2 = 3100
Multiply the above by the 30 catagorys that count towards the global score and 24000+ players and that is where the fluctuations in scores come from.
Your scores WILL fluctuate up and down on a daily basis depending on all the things mentioned above, that is normal.
Secondary sorting by global rank has a minimal, barely noticable effect on the sores since it only effects those players that are tied with others.
In general over time yours scores will decline down the ranks unless you counter that decline with targeted training aimed at raising your scores up the ranks. á
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Mana Sanqua
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Posted - 2010.12.07 15:11:00 -
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There appears to be an anomaly on both attributes and learning tree's with "Tre'Lord"
Or he has found a lot of learning tapes that no one knew about...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.12.08 19:42:00 -
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By the looks a temporary glitch when updating locked tables, should return to normal on the next update (which it appears to have done now).
/c
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Amateratsu
Caldari The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2010.12.10 15:19:00 -
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Chribba when you get some time to spare, any chance you can add the non public and creation only skills to the list in the advanced search?
would be interesting to see how many players have salvage drone op, genetic engineering ect..
There was a post recently of a player claiming to have the skill "Media". Curious to see what other non-public skills players have as well as the known ones.
Thanks. á
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.12.10 21:16:00 -
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Added to todo.
And as far as 'Media' goes - sounds like GM hax if so as I never heard of it anywhere remotely of being able to be trained.
I always figured the day would be when a GM/ISD/Dev add themselves and show up having Polaris skill...
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