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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.29 13:50:00 -
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Interesting stuff, at least to me. Just sharing. :)
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During the Apollo lunar landing program, NASA made use of two primary flight telemetry/voice recording systems aboard their spacecraft. One of these systems was inside the Command/Service Module, and the other was mounted within the Lunar Module. These two systems were known as the DSE (aboard the CSM) and the DSEA (aboard the LM). The "Data Storage Equipment" systems essentially served as Black Box ****pit voice recorders, designed to tape some of the internal conversations between the astronauts while they were out of radio contact with Mission Control in Houston. After contact was re-established during the flight, Mission Control could then dump (downlink) the recorded data from the CSM to Earth, where it would be analyzed.
Unfortunately, NASA today claims that the original DSE Black Box tapes from the Apollo missions are missing and are presumed lost. However, these DSE recordings were transcribed shortly after the contents of the tapes were originally dumped from the CSM to the Earth, and several years after the Apollo program ended, these transcripts finally were declassified and then released to the NASA archives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qM3xOu9HRU
NASA mission transcripts (PDF)
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Grek Forto
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:11:00 -
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IBCT
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:28:00 -
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That there is life far in advanced to our own out in the universe I have no doubts. Simple probability will see to that given how many chances there are out in the infinite void to recreate a situation similar to what gave life a start on our planet. What we need to figure out is if it is possible to bridge the vast nothingness to get anywhere within a lifetime. Ebil lizardmen from space bent on domination are not much of a threat if they are stuck a few billion light years away with nothing but reaction drives to get around in. As far as the evidence for past life in this solar system it might just be that. Past life. Supposedly mars and venus were both capable of supporting life as we know it far in the past so maybe they once had space flight but could never break the bonds of our sun and go farther. Bad Things happen and then they are nothing but relics to be found on the moon or buried under the sand on mars.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 14:36:20
Originally by: Zeba That there is life far in advanced to our own out in the universe I have no doubts. Simple probability will see to that given how many chances there are out in the infinite void to recreate a situation similar to what gave life a start on our planet. What we need to figure out is if it is possible to bridge the vast nothingness to get anywhere within a lifetime. Ebil lizardmen from space bent on domination are not much of a threat if they are stuck a few billion light years away with nothing but reaction drives to get around in. As far as the evidence for past life in this solar system it might just be that. Past life. Supposedly mars and venus were both capable of supporting life as we know it far in the past so maybe they once had space flight but could never break the bonds of our sun and go farther. Bad Things happen and then they are nothing but relics to be found on the moon or buried under the sand on mars.
Yep, that is certainly a possibility. Wonder what those bonfires and lights were though.
Oh, and from the transcript of Apollo 14 (Command Module) on page 120/121:
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LMP: Sure does. Really got a very complex central structure.
CMP: It's got one of the biggest central peaks a_ound. It's a very unusual crater. But there are some dark areas in it that Farouk has gone on record as saying they are dikes.
CMP: High Sun. That's one right down there; Just shows how it dominates the whole photograph. Just an extremely bright crater. Sun angle Just isn't high enough for you to see it here .... Yes, they're mining it , I think.
Astronauts on drugs?
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Kye Kenshin
Interlude.
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:40:00 -
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Cool Vid.
But I doubt it really is about aliens, from that vid the astronauts never directly say "omg aliens" just that they see some lights and how it would suck to be in a crater.
If they did see aliens why would NASA release transcripts hinting at it? They'd either keep it super secret or just openly come out with it. --------------------------------------
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 14:48:22
Originally by: Kye Kenshin Cool Vid.
But I doubt it really is about aliens, from that vid the astronauts never directly say "omg aliens" just that they see some lights and how it would suck to be in a crater.
If they did see aliens why would NASA release transcripts hinting at it? They'd either keep it super secret or just openly come out with it.
Well, the transcripts are right on the site containing these words. They never say its aliens. Could be humans. But then you have to believe lots of things... like we have had the capability to put people on the moon secretly for at least 100 years to have a mining colony there. Or, alternate explanation, that the astronauts were crazy or were using code words for something else.
Or fake NASA documents.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Wonder what those bonfires and lights were though.
If it is a relic of Past Life it might have been technologicaly advanced enough to still be powered up and operating. Whilst the star drives that efficiently whisk everyone around in whatever sci-fi you want to quote might be beyond the physical sciences all the other stuff you see is not only possible but probably being used in some form as we speak. Hell we even have crude devices to make finished items from base materials like in star trek with the new printing technologies. Imagine what a few decades of refinement will do for that.
Originally by: Jim McGregor Oh, and from the transcript of Apollo 14 (Command Module) on page 120/121:
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LMP: Sure does. Really got a very complex central structure.
CMP: It's got one of the biggest central peaks a_ound. It's a very unusual crater. But there are some dark areas in it that Farouk has gone on record as saying they are dikes.
CMP: High Sun. That's one right down there; Just shows how it dominates the whole photograph. Just an extremely bright crater. Sun angle Just isn't high enough for you to see it here .... Yes, they're mining it , I think.
Astronauts on drugs?
Well his name is Buzz..
Ok here are some possibilities.
The Russians. Right after sputnik they decided to colonize the moon for the motherland. It was completely doable with the current technology if they were willing to absorb the high loss of life such an endevour would entail. But if successful and a base was established then its very possible they were what the astronauts witnessed. They were just as advanced as the Americans at that time and had the nessasary secrecy to hide whatever they wanted to from international scrutiny. We find out about it with our advanced spy planes and fast track our own space plan to get to the moon and find out wtf they are up to. Pictures are taken and scripts played out then an ambasador knocks on an embassy door with a proposal to join up and keep it secret. I mean ever notice how even in the crappiest parts of the cold war we still cooperated in outer space?
Past Life. Maybe it ain't so past. Be afraid. Very afraid.
Space Nazis! No, seriously!
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 29/09/2009 15:35:42
Originally by: Zeba
Space Nazis! No, seriously!
Those cross-dressing ****'s
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Iasius
Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Iasius on 29/09/2009 15:37:00 Edited by: Iasius on 29/09/2009 15:35:37 I beleive in aliens that are similar to those from the film 2001 a space oddessey. That is they are utterly alien. Not bipeds like us or even don't have normal organic hosts to live in.
Earth is a very unique planet in being able to support complex life. Surely it appeared on the alien radar hundreds of millions if not billions of years ago. From that i beleive aliens are amongst us now. They could use discreete hosts like birds.
Abstract thinking about aliens went downhill with Star Trek and Star Wars. Which are really about self vilification. Yes lets do stories about aliens.. that look and really behave like humans duh!
I also think aliens work within timelines that span hundreds of millions of years. They have no interest in making overt direct contact.
Though on the other side of the coin i don't think they are averse to social engineering projects on Earth. To tinker and create pivotal events in human history. I have a hunCh 911 involved aliens.
If you know of something or someone that has general 'alien' qualities, strip away religous dogma, then you know aliens are up to something big
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