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Krist Valentine
Amarr THE PUNISHERS
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Posted - 2009.09.30 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 16:34:29 hey, this is just a word of warning about sev3rance alliance. after leaving a friendly station owned by Sev3rance alliance in my pilgrim today i found myself bubbled and engaged by several of their pilots. couldnt redock cause theyd banned me from the station, so i lost my ship to people i was blue with dont trust these guys.
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
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Siangi
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Posted - 2009.09.30 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Siangi on 30/09/2009 16:45:23 Im thinking that you or someone from your corp did somthing to Sev3rance to **** them of. Remeber blue status isnt always permanant
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GreyGnome
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Posted - 2009.09.30 16:45:00 -
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-7- are fail, don't follow the rules that they agreed to and they lie about it. They treat blues and neutrals like crap and are the worst holders alliance in Providence.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.09.30 17:20:00 -
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how about instead of being in providence to rat you join up with a REAL alliance.
(i love you cva guys, but the space you own is crap ♥)
want a sig? thats great! post it in response to my posts!
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Krist Valentine
Amarr THE PUNISHERS
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Posted - 2009.09.30 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 19:08:31
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe how about instead of being in providence to rat you join up with a REAL alliance.
(i love you cva guys, but the space you own is crap ♥)
im not in cva. i dont wanna join an alliance cause i dont really like alliance life, im just in 0.0 to rat my sec status up and build up the wallet a bit.
thanks for the replies, good to hear im not the only one whos experienced this kinda thing.
edit: and
Originally by: Siangi Edited by: Siangi on 30/09/2009 16:45:23 Im thinking that you or someone from your corp did somthing to Sev3rance to **** them of. Remeber blue status isnt always permanant
i asked why they kept targeting me, they said that i'd popped one of their pilots. which is bs.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.30 19:22:00 -
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[sarcasm/]"Welcome to Providence, where the Holders keep their word and will protect the neutrals over everything else..."[sarcasm]
Did I manage to say that in a straight face?
-7- are just pirates hiding behind CVA and adding to the Proviblob. That's why CVA is always looking the other way and disregards the rules they set themselves.
They did you a favor, you'd have died anyway to one of our roaming gangs (or -A-, Atlas, RZR, MM, DNS, TRI, etc.).
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FISHANDCHIPS
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Posted - 2009.09.30 19:26:00 -
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What did you expect from CVA and pets
three times ive tried to post that now.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr THE PUNISHERS
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Posted - 2009.09.30 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tagami Wasp [sarcasm/]"Welcome to Providence, where the Holders keep their word and will protect the neutrals over everything else..."[sarcasm]
Did I manage to say that in a straight face?
-7- are just pirates hiding behind CVA and adding to the Proviblob. That's why CVA is always looking the other way and disregards the rules they set themselves.
They did you a favor, you'd have died anyway to one of our roaming gangs (or -A-, Atlas, RZR, MM, DNS, TRI, etc.).
not to be argumentative but the reason i killed wasnt cause they were good pilots, it was cause i was camped into their station. if i see hostiles out im not gunna twiddle my thumbs exactly so the threat from enemies is probably less than the one from 'friendlies'
cheers o7
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.30 22:13:00 -
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--Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
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Rock urSocksoff
The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.30 23:06:00 -
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I'm surprised Sev3rance managed to kill anything tbqh.
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Face Eelai
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Posted - 2009.10.01 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
how about: none of the two. next time try to contact a -7- or CVA diplomat and chances are that you actually are reimbursed if they killed you for mistake. instead of coming here and whining and blaming without any sort of proof.
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lucifers widow
3rd Kador lancers
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Posted - 2009.10.01 13:45:00 -
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You aren't blue to them.
Dunno who told you you were but alas you aren't.
Also you pirate in Amarrian lowsec you pay the price in Provi, nuff said.
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Maylin Li
Caldari The Lonely Assassins
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Posted - 2009.10.01 14:52:00 -
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Unfortunately, sev3rance are the worst alliance in the providence block when it comes to diplomacy, and 'friendly/neutral fire incidents'.
A search for the OP and his corporation on the KOS checker turns up no results, since the KOS checker is linked to the CVA killboard database, it means he has never killed or been killed by CVA.
Searching him and his corporation on the sev3rance killboard turns up no kills, only his loss to them. It's a shame because small corps that they feel they can often 'sweep under the rug' often get attacked when they are bored just because they can get away with it.
on the comment on their killboard they claimed he attacked a certain "sjbabbie" however a search ingame yields the following message; No Character can be found with 'sjbabbie' in the beginning of its name. This character also doesn't appear on any killboard records.
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Suitonia
Gallente HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.10.01 14:59:00 -
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A search on eve-kill.net for the OPs corporation also reveals that they don't have any kills, and 8 losses, mostly to hostiles in Providence like AAA. Therefore its likely that they've been there for awhile, know the rules. Sev3rance were just bored camping their own station, and decided to motivate their troops by making up a diplomatic incident involving a character that doesn't even exist.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Face Eelai
Originally by: Krist Valentine
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
how about: none of the two. next time try to contact a -7- or CVA diplomat and chances are that you actually are reimbursed if they killed you for mistake. instead of coming here and whining and blaming without any sort of proof.
touched a nerve, did i? read the posts below yours if youre still insisting that im whining or trying some defamation of character on them. i posted it as a warning to others as i didnt know this was widespread knowledge.
@ Maylin Li and Suitonia, thanks for the replies :) thought i was going insane
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Tesal
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Posted - 2009.10.02 02:42:00 -
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I thought Providence holders shot people in NPC corps unless they knew them because people in NPC corps in 0.0 are usually spies. You also cannot "blue" an NPC corp. Just sayin.
never stop posting...with alts. Now you know what it is to be owned. Mittani alt says hi. I win. You lose.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.02 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 02/10/2009 08:13:30 I can confirm that severance has a very poor "dont shoot blues" mentality.
Back when I was in IRC (and IRC was still doing reasonably well) we found ourselves (in a roaming gang) up against a fleet.
HALF of the fleet consisted of reds, the other half consisted of blues.. severance.
The red half started shooting us, we started owning them. severance didn't immediatelly shoot us, but they made sure to remain in position (set orbits on us for tacklers, etc) After 1 or 2 minutes they started shooting us, because it became apparent their friends weren't going to win the fight against us.
We then immediatelly proceded to reset severance and took a stealthbomber/recon gang out to providence and screw their pro-neutral-carebear stuff up for 2 weeks or so __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.10.02 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tesal Edited by: Tesal on 02/10/2009 02:49:40 I thought Providence holders shot people in NPC corps unless they knew them because people in NPC corps in 0.0 are usually spies. You also cannot "blue" an NPC corp. Just sayin.
*edit You are a pirate. Don't they shoot pirates on sight?
I think it's still policy to treat NPC corp characters as neutrals unless the person is proven otherwise i.e. KOS on the KOS checker, I would also think that if a neutral NPC corp character was showing themselves as a high risk like hanging around watching people and such then they would be asked to move along as not to compromise the safety of others and fleets. But overall I think policy is that people are neutral until proven otherwise.
And yeah pirates are not welcome in Providence in general even if a person hasn't pirated in Providence, their rules about piracy is universal and not just local from what I remember, which is fair enough. ------
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.02 08:52:00 -
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This will be dealt with
Originally by: Hamshoe
Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining.
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Shade Millith
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.02 09:27:00 -
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From what I've heard while in LFA, -7- are VERY loose on the rules, often enough to the point of completely ignoring them.
The other holders are fine, just avoid -7- like the plague. They have a history of attacking what they feel like. --------------------------------------------
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Tarac Nor
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.02 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tarac Nor on 02/10/2009 10:27:50 When i was in my first 0.0 alliance that was based in provi the first thing that was said to me was stay away from -7-, nuff said.
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.02 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Krist Valentine Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 16:34:29 hey, this is just a word of warning about sev3rance alliance. after leaving a friendly station owned by Sev3rance alliance in my pilgrim today i found myself bubbled and engaged by several of their pilots. couldnt redock cause theyd banned me from the station, so i lost my ship to people i was blue with dont trust these guys.
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
Btw, join a REAL corp, many fleets (INCLUDING Providence fleets) will kill NPC corp people because they are often spies/scouts. Don't like it? Tough. Quit whining because you won't man up and join up with real ppl.
--Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.02 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Originally by: Krist Valentine Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 16:34:29 hey, this is just a word of warning about sev3rance alliance. after leaving a friendly station owned by Sev3rance alliance in my pilgrim today i found myself bubbled and engaged by several of their pilots. couldnt redock cause theyd banned me from the station, so i lost my ship to people i was blue with dont trust these guys.
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
Btw, join a REAL corp, many fleets (INCLUDING Providence fleets) will kill NPC corp people because they are often spies/scouts. Don't like it? Tough. Quit whining because you won't man up and join up with real ppl.
--Isaac
Oh, so they don't fly NRDS, it's more like "shoot it if we can get away with it" SIIWCGAWI? According to these posts not only do they shoot nutrals, they also shoot imaginary pilots.
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Lord Windu
Echelon Warfare Unit
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Posted - 2009.10.02 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Windu on 02/10/2009 18:00:21
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Originally by: Krist Valentine Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 16:34:29 hey, this is just a word of warning about sev3rance alliance. after leaving a friendly station owned by Sev3rance alliance in my pilgrim today i found myself bubbled and engaged by several of their pilots. couldnt redock cause theyd banned me from the station, so i lost my ship to people i was blue with dont trust these guys.
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
Btw, join a REAL corp, many fleets (INCLUDING Providence fleets) will kill NPC corp people because they are often spies/scouts. Don't like it? Tough. Quit whining because you won't man up and join up with real ppl.
--Isaac
So you openly admit to shooting neutrals now then.
From the CVA website:
Originally by: CVA Rules of Providence No pilot, corporation or alliance shall initiate an attack against another unless that pilot, corporation or alliance is expressly wanted on the Deliverance KOS List
Doesn't say anything about people in NPC corps...
Originally by: CVA Guide & FAQ
We would also like to state that simply being a member of one of the NPC corps does not guarantee safety in Providence as we will take past associations/behaviour into account.
Again, doesn't say anything about people in NPC corps being a valid target, at least unless they have a previous reputation of hostility e.t.c.
So in short, you are either admitting to going against the rules as set by CVA or you are saying that the website is unclear/outdated and needs a revamp. Also don't ***** at people who want to stay in NPC corps, it's their choice how they play, want to shoot random people then go and join a NBSI alliance you idiot.
CVA Quotes from here. ------
In Before Kanye West |
AMAGADLOOK I'MPOSTING
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.10.02 18:28:00 -
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THIS
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Btw, join a REAL corp, many fleets (INCLUDING Providence fleets) will kill NPC corp people because they are often spies/scouts. Don't like it? Tough. Quit whining because you won't man up and join up with real ppl.
--Isaac
and then he censors himself
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 02/10/2009 18:02:23
Originally by: Krist Valentine Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 16:34:29 hey, this is just a word of warning about sev3rance alliance. after leaving a friendly station owned by Sev3rance alliance in my pilgrim today i found myself bubbled and engaged by several of their pilots. couldnt redock cause theyd banned me from the station, so i lost my ship to people i was blue with dont trust these guys.
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
Censor.
--Isaac
How brain dead can you be?
Man up and take the blows for your own stupid posting. Also, IWIN 100 !NT3RN3T5 for every post. |
Krist Valentine
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.10.02 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu Edited by: Lord Windu on 02/10/2009 18:00:21
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Originally by: Krist Valentine Edited by: Krist Valentine on 30/09/2009 16:34:29 hey, this is just a word of warning about sev3rance alliance. after leaving a friendly station owned by Sev3rance alliance in my pilgrim today i found myself bubbled and engaged by several of their pilots. couldnt redock cause theyd banned me from the station, so i lost my ship to people i was blue with dont trust these guys.
edit: by the way, didnt know if this should go in corps+alliance or c&p. sorry if its in the wrong place.
Btw, join a REAL corp, many fleets (INCLUDING Providence fleets) will kill NPC corp people because they are often spies/scouts. Don't like it? Tough. Quit whining because you won't man up and join up with real ppl.
--Isaac
So you openly admit to shooting neutrals now then.
From the CVA website:
Originally by: CVA Rules of Providence No pilot, corporation or alliance shall initiate an attack against another unless that pilot, corporation or alliance is expressly wanted on the Deliverance KOS List
Doesn't say anything about people in NPC corps...
Originally by: CVA Guide & FAQ
We would also like to state that simply being a member of one of the NPC corps does not guarantee safety in Providence as we will take past associations/behaviour into account.
Again, doesn't say anything about people in NPC corps being a valid target, at least unless they have a previous reputation of hostility e.t.c.
So in short, you are either admitting to going against the rules as set by CVA or you are saying that the website is unclear/outdated and needs a revamp. Also don't ***** at people who want to stay in NPC corps, it's their choice how they play, want to shoot random people then go and join a NBSI alliance you idiot.
CVA Quotes from here.
got pretty confused by all the quotes and unquotes and censors and whatnot but ive finally wrapped my head round it so i just wanted to say that i wasnt in an npc corp at the time, i was in a corp which was friendly with sev. however i got booted out of my friends corp as he says he 'doesnt understand why they'd fabricate that id do that just so they could kill me'
did i say friend?
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.02 18:53:00 -
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We knew you weren't in the NPC corp as it was already stated that your corp had no kills and 8 losses.
Isaac must be having some issues.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.10.02 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts We knew you weren't in the NPC corp as it was already stated that your corp had no kills and 8 losses.
Isaac must be having some issues.
****mongling Isaac is an issue ---
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2009.10.02 19:24:00 -
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Quote: sev3rance alliance kills blues
Since when is this news??
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.02 19:31:00 -
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While I'm thinking about, there was a blog in my capsuleer app that was a lot like this post. OP, is that your blog by chance?
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