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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.08 09:49:00 -
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I have no idea, but this idea has probably been posted before and beaten to death.
My idea:
- Allow characters to be renamed for a fee equal to:
----a month's subscription ----a PLEX ----an amount of ISK equal to the average PLEX price as traded on the market in the previous week/month (ISK sink)
- In the character info window, have a tab called 'Previous Names' or 'Name History' if the character's names been changed.
The 'Previous Names' or 'Name History' tab would be almost identical to employment history, but instead listing a character's previous names, and date range which they had that name (e.g. Sven Svensson 2004.12.15 to 2012.06.18).
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2012.06.08 11:56:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:I have no idea,
Fixed your post... you're welcome!
Name changes are a bad idea for Eve, whitewashing away any past history and reputation. Its all very well having a history tab or something, but I dont want to have to check a history tab for everyone I meet or see in local in case they have an old name I recognize.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.08 14:23:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:I have no idea, Fixed yours. A history tab for previous names would, by definition, prevent whitewashing of past history and reputation. In the same way joining a new corp doesn't wash away corps a character was previously a member of.
Unless, of course, you're lazy:
Jint Hikaru wrote:I dont want to have to check a history tab for everyone I meet or see in local in case they have an old name I recognize. Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
Jafit
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.08 16:59:00 -
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I know people who would happilly spend a plex on changing their name to something like xXVladimirxX420Xx360n0sc0pexX
Some flexibility in names would be nice, but making it too easy would be a bad idea.
Plus while a history tab might help, there will still be confusion. Because I know that if somone like an alliance leader or someone were to change their name, somoene else would take it and try to impersonate him.
Allowing a name change if a character is sold to another player through the forums should be allowed I think, because that character's history should be irrelevant at that point anyway. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2012.06.08 17:34:00 -
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Jafit wrote:I know people who would happilly spend a plex on changing their name to something like xXVladimirxX420Xx360n0sc0pexX
Some flexibility in names would be nice, but making it too easy would be a bad idea.
Plus while a history tab might help, there will still be confusion. Because I know that if somone like an alliance leader or someone were to change their name, somoene else would take it and try to impersonate him.
Allowing a name change if a character is sold to another player through the forums should be allowed I think, because that character's history should be irrelevant at that point anyway.
And a new service is born - character laundering. Someone buying a character without checking its past history deserves said history.
No to whitewashing consequences of past actions, period. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.08 19:23:00 -
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How does character renaming in combination with a tab that lists their previous names constitute "whitewashing"? Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.08 19:30:00 -
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Jafit wrote:I know people who would happilly spend a plex on changing their name to something like xXVladimirxX420Xx360n0sc0pexX I don't see what you're getting at here -- people do name their characters when they're created, right? Whatever existing conventions there are for naming would apply.
Quote:Some flexibility in names would be nice, but making it too easy would be a bad idea. What is "making it too easy"? And by implication, what would making it not "too easy" consist of?
Quote:Plus while a history tab might help, there will still be confusion. Because I know that if somone like an alliance leader or someone were to change their name, somoene else would take it and try to impersonate him. It'd have to be the case that once a name has been used (or is a previous name of a currently existing character), it can never be used again/re-used. Unlike corporation or alliance names that can be re-used once the corp/alliance is disbanded. Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
Trollin
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Posted - 2012.06.09 07:50:00 -
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im +1, but my opinion counts for **** same as everyone else's, so dont hold your breath . |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.06.09 11:04:00 -
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No. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.09 11:14:00 -
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Trollin wrote:im +1, but my opinion counts for **** same as everyone else's, so dont hold your breath I doubt the devs have time to look at much of what's posted in this section.
I do think though a tab in character info with previous names is an innovation over previous suggestions, that would make it impossible to whitewash a character's history.
There'd be no get out of jail free card with regards to one's previous reputation and associations.
Probably would be a good source of revenue as well, without any negative consequences. Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
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S'totan
Hell's Revenge Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.06.09 14:24:00 -
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Not only no.... but HELL no.
Your reputation within the community depends on what you do. People know you based on what you do. -1 for someone who wants an easy spy into somones corp everytime he gets kicked out.
Only viable option is to have a Past Name history on the character --- either free in the character info --- OR a payable fee to Concord as an isk sink to the game.
The name change fee would have to be something stupid in cost, maybe something equal to the cost of a Super, to avoid spies changing their name everytime they move. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.09 18:46:00 -
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NO.. this must never be allowed. which is why it's important to get the name you want or at least a name you can live with before you have trained 20 million skill points. Your character rep is tied to your actions in game and that effects everything you might do from joining a corp to trying to sell your corp thieving character in the forums.. the rep must stay with the name... so the name must stay. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.09 18:52:00 -
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S'totan wrote:Not only no.... but HELL no.
Your reputation within the community depends on what you do. People know you based on what you do. -1 for someone who wants an easy spy into somones corp everytime he gets kicked out.
Only viable option is to have a Past Name history on the character --- either free in the character info --- OR a payable fee to Concord as an isk sink to the game.
The name change fee would have to be something stupid in cost, maybe something equal to the cost of a Super, to avoid spies changing their name everytime they move.
we don't need another isk sink expecially one that accomodates people trying to launder their character reps for cash. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
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Posted - 2012.06.10 03:38:00 -
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Given some of the really bad names I've seen, I'm kind of leaning toward agreeing with this idea. I'm hesitant though because too many people are going to try to escape a reputation somehow. But perhaps if everyone who has you in contacts is notified you changed your name, and you get a name change history on your character sheet, it wouldn't be such a bad thing after all. I mean it's not like you can't already buy a new character anyway if you were really that desperate to escape your reputation. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:39:00 -
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S'totan wrote:Not only no.... but HELL no.
Your reputation within the community depends on what you do. People know you based on what you do. -1 for someone who wants an easy spy into somones corp everytime he gets kicked out. The previous name tab would retain all previous names so reputation survives intact.
I have a funny feeling people have only given what I wrote the most casual glance over.
If there is a tab in someone's character info listing previous names, they cannot run away from their acquired reputation and associations. Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:41:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Given some of the really bad names I've seen, I'm kind of leaning toward agreeing with this idea. I'm hesitant though because too many people are going to try to escape a reputation somehow. But perhaps if everyone who has you in contacts is notified you changed your name, and you get a name change history on your character sheet, it wouldn't be such a bad thing after all. I mean it's not like you can't already buy a new character anyway if you were really that desperate to escape your reputation. That's what the tab in character info listing all previous names would be for. So they cannot escape their acquired reputations and associations.
And as long as a name exists as a previous name, it could not be re-used. So, in effect, a character would always have their previous name. It's location would simply be shifted to the previous name tab on char info if they changed it to something else. Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
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Posted - 2012.06.10 05:47:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:we don't need another isk sink expecially one that accomodates people trying to launder their character reps for cash. If the person's previous name is listed for all to see in 2 seconds of clicking (in the same exact way one can see the previous corporations a character has belonged to), how can one launder their character's reputation?
If this character was previously in a corp named Ice Enforcers, record of my membership would be forever preserved in my character info.
Likewise, if I changed my character's name to Ole Svenssen, a record of my name as Hrothgar Nilsson would be forever preserved in my character info.
Just as one could not hide the corps they were previously members of, one could not hide what names they were previously known as.
Ergo, reputation laundering = impossible. Hulk Insurance Services: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115786 --Gap coverage to help cover the difference between SCC maximum payout and the market price of your Hulk. -á --All policies refundable upon request. |
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